Cessna 172 Crosswind Landing with 21 Knot Wind Gusts
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2016
- Most challenging crosswind landings to date. 90 degree crosswind with 21 knot wind gusts.
Audio captured with Sony ICD-PX333 voice recorder.
Video cameras: GoPro's both with suction cup mounts
Editing: Premiere Pro
The author of this video, my husband Eddie Burris, made his final flight in life on May 25, 2020. While he had chosen and enjoyed every single previous ones, he was chosen to fly this one to the Heaven. I am happy for him not to suffer from a brain cancer-glioblastoma anymore. Eddie was initially diagnosed in Dec. 2016 and had started a vigorous treatment. He had fell pretty ill since September 2019. If you posted your questions or comments after that time and have not got a response, please accept my apology. It was not Eddie's choice to be silent. He was a teaching faculty at School of Engineering and Computer Science at Univ. of Missouri-Kansas City for nearly two decades. He loved sharing flying experiences and chatting about airplanes and he was very diligent in email exchanges. Now he is up there flying airplanes and racing cars. Please cheer for him!
If you are interested, I have created a facebook page dedicated to Eddie, with the user id: jing.tao.1217. See you there.
Again thank you all for your comments, regardless of the content, the intent, or the expression! They are all taken as a positive force, propelling Eddie to fly higher and higher! And one of those days, I will catch him again.
I’ve landed a Cessna 182 in 25kt cross wind, no problem, when I was done flying I hit pause and F11 and got a cup of coffee.
I just love how everyone is an expert. The pilot is critiquing himself and doing a fine job.
Yeah, fine job. He takes off in a 16kt crosswind that increases to 20kt with an airplane rated for MAXIMUM 15kt and he admits he’s a rookie. Fine job. Darwin Award.
John B: Everything I said (except the Darwin part) was sarcasm. What he did in my opinion was very foolish. He knew the airplane’s limitations (or should have), he knew the crosswind component exceeded those limitations (or should have) and he indicated he was not a very experienced pilot. So I repeat - Darwin Award. (But nice landing anyway).
John B: Haha, well fortunately he was only nominated this time and didn’t win, so to speak!
@@rayray8687 You've totally interpreted the POH WRONG!!!....The POH says 15kts DEMOSTRATED!!!...Cessna was very smart in not specifying a maximum and chosing their words carefully by saying demonstrated.
I own a 172N and have done closed traffic patterns with 25kt gust.
No flaps, 70kts, cross control enough to get upwind wheel down 1st, keep aligned until other touches and you're done.
I've aborted many landings due to excessive winds. 15-25kts is a lil bit of work but not excessive imo....15-25kts is within the capability of the 172 easily.
Muhammad Steinberg: It’s not so much I misinterpreted the POH as that I used the wrong terminology in my comment. I’ve discussed this same issue with other pilots on other forums and while most agree the C172 is not “limited” to 15 kts cross, its likely, in my opinion, that most low-time or beginning pilots (like me, and like the guy in this video) ARE limited to that component...or at least should limit themselves to it until they have more experience. That is what the airplane manufacturer is suggesting. Virtually all the pilots on that same forum, regardless of experience, also agreed that for sport flying you should never intentionally put yourself in a position outside of the demonstrated cross component on any airplane. One experienced pilot went so far as to say he did not consider his flying time as an “extreme sport”. A few described after-landing experiences of total spin arounds and even flip overs after turning off the runway in gusting conditions.
Excess steady crosswinds are one thing but unpredictable gusts are quite another...and this guy, a beginner, knowingly flew into both. My opinion? Not smart.
As a hopeful future pilot that watches this kind of thing constantly, Thank You! The humility of pilots who are willing to break down their imperfections will likely keep me alive someday.
Wow! I love this style of filming! It really captures where you are in the pattern in reference to the airport, threshold, etc. AND gives a sense of depth (which is very hard to accomplish on camera). And the inset control camera gives the viewer a sense of what the pilot is doing. I love it! I wish I saw it more in aviation videos!
I like many others watching this, am a student pilot about to finish my flight training. Videos like this one are so, so, SO very helpful in helping us get over the fear of crosswind landings. Your husband seems like he was a great man. I feel fortunate to have watched his landings and absorb this into my own learning. He seems like was a great man and his kind nature and humility shine brightly through the microphone. Crosswind correction and other tips aside, this video combined with your words in the description have great impact (The the last section nearly made me cry at work.) Thank you for continuing to be your husbands voice in his little legacy of aviation. I'm sure he would have continued to make AMAZING content
Justin, thank you for your kind words. Yes, your description and impression of him, based on this video, are accurate. He was very kind, friendly, trustworthy, humble, and talented. He was well loved by his students. He had a lot of interests and he was certainly very passionate about aviation within the last several years. How I wish he could share more videos here.
Wish you great success in everything you do and good luck to your pilot certification!
On my last check ride in a 172 it was 24 gusting to 32 , 90 degrees to the runway. I learned to fly at this airport ( Burlington Ont ), so the norm is crosswind landings and takeoffs. The instructor cancelled all her lessons for the afternoon within seconds of taking off. I did 6 touch and goes and one full stop. Nailed everyone. Yes I'm pretty damned pleased with myself.
I also fly out of Burlington, Why didn’t you go for rwy 27 in those winds?
On a gusty crosswind I just think I made it back alive. 20kt gusts in a 172 is frankly above what I would consider acceptable to atempt the landing nowadays, only usefull for educational purpouses only really. You did very nice job honestly. Just one piece of advice dont go trying this all the time.
I just did my 3rd student solo and had 15kt with 20gusts. I wasn’t laughing like you, I was puckered up and holding my breath! 😂
Totally understand
When i came back on my 2nd cross country, wimds were 20 gusting 27. Tower advised I divert to airport 20 miles away, but I didnt have fuel for it, so got cleared with caution. As I slipped down I noticed 40-50 people standing outside watching. Slipped to the numbers, kicked it straight and flared for a one wheel touchdown before settling , and taxied in to park. I found out once inside, the instructors called all their students outside to watch a crash...
I was lucky. The gusts had the rudder maxed out and I dont think it would have been the same outcome if it was 2 mph higher gusts. Was very proud of myself, but credit luck as at least 50% of the happy ending.
That's a hairy landing! I'm glad you were able to disappoint so many viewers, and prove those instructors wrong!
you were right , you should have made the first one a full stop. You handled it well and the camera shows it.
If you didn't have fuel for a 20 mile divert you gone f****** up.
Hippie With A Cowboy Hat
Did you crabbed to the number then kicked it straight to a side slip?
lol you suffer from gust of 27 knots, here in my country the limit for student pilots is 35 knots of gust.. above that it’s on your own and guess what happen😂😂 everyone still flies with 36-38 knots of gusting winds.. the Cessna 172 becomes a food blender at those conditions 😂
As a former CFI and current ATP, I think you should use more aileron in the wind on takeoff and landing. I would start takeoff with full airleron in the wind, yoke to the stoppers and as airspeed increase slowly gage the aileron input. The wing downwind should lift off first. Once airborne, take the crab angle that keeps you centered with center line and keep that heading so you climb in the runway center line. Same for landing, use your crab angle until flare. No need to do a slip on final. Throttle back on flare and decrab. with rudder, aileron in the wind. And once on the ground, aileron should be completely in the wind. That will help you to steer on the ground. Great video! Cheers
Dead right the fella in the film was crap and the runway was ten miles long and he needed all of it........... what about one wing down land on one wheel or kick of the drift and hold off the roll with aileron
Yes you can do Slips on final. The 2 kinds of. the Forward Slip to lose more altitude and the Crosswind Slip to land on one tire first. And you should practice them often. You should touch down on The Crosswind Slip on most airplanes. But not on low engine jets like 737's and those To avoid engine strikes. but all others, yes. The If doing the Decrab On Flare maneuver instead of The Crosswind Slip, you have to be perfect to decrab or a sideways load on tires and landing gear happen$$$.
7k+ Bush PIlot CFI. 11 emergencies. no accidents. had land with 30 knot direct on C172's, cherokees and many others. no bs. Have videos on another channel landing with a 16 knot crosswind tailwind landings after 4 done Turnbacks on take of simulating 4 kinds of EFATO's. Used a Cherokee for that video. Did it over 20 years ago. I keep it private. No free teaching to rich guys.
Jason Vezina I'm not a pilot and have no experience yet so this is simply a question to gauge my own understanding
When he landed both times it looked like he added slip away from the wind angle after he pulled out of the crab.
My question is, did he use the correct direction of slip after crab and if not, should he have added more slip to the right instead
Jason Vezina I
Nice instruction, thanks!
Hey man thx for the content learning on a 172 also but you've got bigger balls than I do since I would not go up so gusty.
Didn't do too bad IMO. Thank you for sharing.
One piece of advice I would give is to stay on the upwind side, with those kind of crosswinds I find if you start the flare with your right main on the centerline, you'll probably touchdown right on the centerline as your ailerons lose authority.
New viewer of this video. I'm sure he's doing perfect cross wind landings right now up there in the sky talking aviation with someone.
Definitely! He must be doing aerobatic stunts there. He was able to do half circle prior to diagnose.
Been there. It will make you wonder why you ever left the ground that day. Also makes you a better pilot and tightens the seat covers for a short while.
Nice video with the two camera angles. Your talking was helpful too. You did good. Thanks for sharing.
At 6:20, Cessna 656SP, that's the plane i'm training in right now! Crazy how small this world can be.
Holy moly
От винта! Желаю исправной стальной птицы, чистого неба впереди, высокого пилотажа в полётах и мягких посадок. Хорошее видео получилось.
Needed more cowbell. I'm a cowbell instructor for 23 years.
😂😂
lmao
I was gonna go out and fly in our little katana DA-20 I was at an uncontrolled airport and noticed our 15 knot flag was almost fully erect at a full cross wind so I was like okay perfect time to do some crosswind landings in a light aircraft! little did I know when I listened to the airport that was less then 5 miles away from me they were having crosswinds at 170 with 17 knot winds gusting to 20. As soon as i got on downwind I was really struggling keeping the plane at a decent distance from the airport so I decided to make it a full stop. Little did I know that it was gonna be the toughest landing in that little plane. I landed well and my instructor said it was picture perfect but the adrenaline it got going in me was crazy! Thanks for the video Eddie!
Because of the 'lightness' of the DA20, my son is transitioning to the Cherokee next week to help him deal with these crazy winter winds at the airport. Don't know if this will help him, but a 1 hour session will see if the Piper is easier to learn to fly with these winds. (12 hrs F/T).
I was born and bred on crosswinds at my airport so crabbing and side-slipping were common. Downwind was over mountains with up-drafts, turning base I left flat and went over ocean, stayed over ocean crabbing with wind off the ocean and on final, still over the ocean for a ways(adding flaps) until I was over land and then, just with my left wing down and using right rudder with a little more flaps and towards the last, where over the numbers the windsock was straight out, so you had to straighten her out, add a bit more flaps, but there was a big hill on my left and swirling winds put the windsock at 90 degrees a few more feet down the runway, so you had to crab again, constantly working the rudder and aileron and then you had to straighten her out again right away in just a few feet, then hold the left wing down and a hard right rudder almost to the flare, then hold that and then you straightened her out to complete landing! More than once turbulence had me bouncing and once over the ocean, on final, my head hit the top of the cockpit due to a sudden downdraft (THAT was scary, that ocean came up awful fast and I had to apply throttle and a bit more flaps)! Challenging, and I'd go out and practice those landings again and again, changing my technique, from crabbing to side-slipping, but I became pretty good at it, and it made other airports seem like a piece of cake! Some flyboy reading this will probably tear the technique apart but that's how we did it! Whatever works and gets you down safe, and I ALWAYS got down safe, and with practice, the anxiety subsided, although you always had to keep on your toes because things could change in a few seconds. Once early on in my learning, my FI would have me land on the taxi-way just so I had to concentrate harder on centering the aircraft on a narrow strip. Once in a while, we had a perfectly calm, clear day and I hardly knew how to fly it! It was fun.
I usually skipped flying on Sat. and Sunday because so many "weekend pilots" would fly in there to practice crosswind landings and I saw a lot of bungled landings! Some would NOT use the pattern, but flew straight-ins so you had to watch downwind for them (not nice, but people did it). It's selfish to not fly the pattern! If they are concerned about fuel, maybe they have the wrong sport!
This is interesting stuff. I actually love that angle. And I appreciate your honesty. Learning is a process.
Im still a student pilot. But God Bless you anyway.. atleast nothing seriously bad happened and your okay.
the auto captions on this are gold
Despite your admitted inexperience, this was an excellent video. Description and corrections were right on.
this is mr. aviation 101 after smoking 1,000 packs of cigarettes
Tommy Johnston slow and monotone. I think Mr avi101 tries to sound fruity in his videos. 👍🚬🚬🚬🚬
Omg I hope he sees this hahahaha
hahaha yes you are so right
Keyboard, meet Coffee
hahahahahahah San Marcus San Marcus San Marcus
You're doing a great job. Making those low passes is a great way to get a feel for what the wind is doing.
I an a canadian flying instructor with 1 700 hres PIC. There are no limit to the amount of crosswind you can take. On take-of, you simply raise the wing opposite to the wind (under the wind), you continue on one wheel, and when the elevator feels firm, you aileron-up the wing into the wing. The wind will yaw the plane in the right direction, and you crab-out automatically on the runway axle. On the landing, you crab the airplane on final. Overshooting the final axle is of importance only to your ego. Once the crab on final is adjusted, you proceed to the landing with the crab. No flaps with a Cessna. Full flaps with a Cherokee. On the flare, you side-slip it in. Lots on ailerons into the wind, and rudder under the wind. Don't under-do it. Be assertive. Once you master this technnique, cross-winds do not matter for you anymore. Small town instructors, with single runways aerodromes are the best at it. Big city instructors chicken-out with a 30 knots, 45 degrees croswind!
Has the strongest crossing today I was doing laps around the pattern. May i say I feel like my calm winds will be perfect
Very brave for going up again after the first touchdown. Thanks for sharing
I give you a thumbs up on your landings!
LOVE this video... Brings back a lot of memories. Fly the airplane. My instructor, who was an amazing pilot, would always dip the wing, as oppose to a severe crab. He would actually put one wheel down and then the other.. ENJOY the air.
Thanks for sharing...I know the feeling! I'm a fellow student pilot and will never forget landing the Cessna 172 in a 12G21KTS crosswind (solo) for the first time. Your camera and video comments were very helpful, so please keep up the good work.
You are doing a great job. As you slow down you use more control input to the point of the stops while side slipping at which time if the aircraft continues to drift downwind you are exceeding the maximum crosswind component and a crab must be introduced(like you see airliners due to long low wings they can't slip due to runway impact potential). You are really proving this point as you do touch and go's. In landing you have the controls maxing out in flair, touchdown. and rollout so the transition is laterally resisted by progressively increasing weight on the tires and rudder directional with ailerons locked fully into the wind.
Drifting on rollout is usually due to not fully locking the aileron into the wind or momentarily backing off during the transition of weight onto the tires and not staying on-top of the rudder to maintain center-line. Consider the rotation and approach speeds with increased by half of the gust as a rule of thumb. Easy to say but you are doing so many corrections at once all you can do is what you are doing and fly as many T and G's in different conditions as you can. Usually if there are several runways you can request a crosswind runway if the tower isn't too busy...instant crosswind. Pretty soon you won't want wind straight down the runway because it's boring.
Thank you Fred!
Hmmmmm....... I've had the " Oh ! I got away with it ! " giggles before , too ! ( at the end on taxi ) ( in a 172 too ! ) Cool video and thanks for the memories. This IS how we learn, though.
Thanks for the share, as a newly minted private pilot who flew in similar conditions, I could tell you put in some good work here!
awesome camera configuration! being able to see both the outside and the gauges + yoke/rudder inputs is super helpful!
I was trained to land on one wheel in a crosswind scenario. Being a brush pilot in Mexico, I had quite an experience with the westerly winds in the sierras. I flew a 210 Cessna retractable. I enjoyed your video.
No way man. HELP. You take over...Someone better get up here and get me down !
Thank you for this video! I really like the two-camera view.
When I was a student I went up one day when winds were just on the verge of my personal limits. Didn't think much of it until the return trip, listened to AWOS and the winds had picked up a bit more. Crab angle was ridiculous, nearly sideways. Super ugly landing after going around once but I made it : D
When I did my solo, had no idea of the existence of cross winds
And since I only flew four times with the instructor, and there's it was never discussed, but I surely found out about them when landing
The plane had to be totally sideways to keep it on top of the runway and I was scared thinking it would roll when touching down, but since I had no choice, and landed, and saw that nothing happened, but that was after about an hour of going round and round
Thank God.
Now I do crop spraying, and you got to master touching down at the very beginning, since most times, I land on dirt roads, this is in Mexico, since I asked for permission, and sometimes it's pretty windy, and I got to land on the side of water canals, and sometimes it does get kind of tricky to stay on those pretty thin roads, about two and the half meters wide, with the water on one side and a drop and rocks and little bushes, and got to be on the lookout for cows, and all kinds of animals and birds, never had any accidents, yet, but one morning, there was this guy on a bicycle, and I had the sun in front, and I was on the ground already slowing down, when I see him about 40 feet away, I just put full flaps, and went to one side, barely missing some big rocks on the side, passed the guy, and barely made it back, almost went down on the side,on top of the bushes and all the other stuff.
Naturally easy for all us sitting at home to critique. I think you did great, even if you had to touch and go 10 more times. This kind of experience will help you big time when your at the end of a longer flight and hit some heavy winds, we learn best by experience and sometimes even better from what we did wrong. Kudos
Been there. My wife was riding with me. She refused to look out the window as we crossed the threshold. Left wing down and right rudder in full. I made it stick. My most difficult landing.
Thanks Eddie! Very nice and helpful video. It´s always the pieces you pick up and learn from everybody. x-wind is always a "player" ;). Many happy landings!
I’m a student pilot about to go for my check ride. Great job critiquing yourself and getting on the ground safely. It’s all about safety in the end. Not even sure if I’m qualified to make a humble and helpful observation, but I noticed you may be gripping the yoke and fighting with the airplane. Only pointing this out because I try to make sure to not do the same thing! Thank you for posting!
I fly and land in a mountainous area near the ocean, crosswinds and rough landings are normal here. The pilots here do not over-analyze their landings, it is "I made is alive" or "I had to go around" on the strong days. Good to get the adrenaline rush when landing on a 2000ft runway banked by a forest, during a 15kts+ crosswind
I can hear my instructor telling me to "keep that wing down!"
Great Job.... Learning is tough sometimes. Fly safe my friend. 👍👍✈️✈️✈️✈️
That first landing I was thinking "go around, please go around" and you did! Good on you. Seriously a Skyhawk will handle those winds no problem, but you gotta get out and do em. Note the A/C holding short & inbound. I bet on the ride home in your car, you were pretty stoked that you survived to fly another day. That's what it's all about: stretching your limits.
An instructor once told me there are times on landing you try to grease it, and there are times you need to make the aircraft do what you want it to do, including planting it firmly on the runway. Gusty XWinds qualify for that treatment.
My last training flight was 18G29 VRB, and it was quite a time. We flew in a 30-degree crab to mainain course the entire flight. As you said, it was quite an interesting feeling. I had 6 landings, and it felt completely unnatural every time. I'm glad i got to experience it with my CFI before my solo(17 hours total)
Good job pilot
Great job!!!
If you could touch down in a crab in a small plane (as many airliners can), flying the final in a crab would make sense. But you can't, you'll have a ground loop or destroy the undercarriage of a small plane doing that. To my thinking, this makes a side slip on final for small planes more stable and doable than coming in on a crab angle and hoping to kick out the crab at the last second before touchdown. But everyone finds their own way.
Excellent use of Video whilst actually describing and executing T/O & Landings,good camera and exceptional sound too.Many thanks for a useful and even exciting T'O & Landing.
It takes gutz to post a video like this. My son is a student pilot, I'm just a flight sim wannabe. I think you did great... and it's good to show future pilots what they are up against! What a great learning video. There's a lot of great supportive comments here as well. This real world experience helps others to understand flight dynamics from the couch much easier. I might add that videos like this also provides for fantastic input in the comments section from more experienced pilots that others will learn from.
Keep it up man! Love your vids!
Thank you! It helps with my training as well, 'been there, done that'! I agree on the overshooting and would be careful with the speed as those turns are quite low and slow. Keep the videos coming!
That video sure brings back some "pucker factor" memories. Thank you for sharing this. :-)
Where I live the towers usually give you wind with the clearance just as a courtesy. Even if it's relatively calm.
Yeah my class D airport gives wind and altimeter setting for every new aircraft that enters the airspace
Interesting to see how far you were pushed when lined up with Quivira. Thanks for posting this. Kinda cool to hear Johnny Rowlands in traffic too.
KOJC is where I did my primary training and experienced plenty of those X winds there. Good stuff. I enjoyed watching it.
When was that?
🙀 nice job!
I got to practice cross wind landings today with 15kts gusting to 20kts in a C152. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it.
Happy flying!
Come to Kansas. This is a normal day of flying as a student pilot haha. But thank you man for the video! Seeing a private pilot make the same mistakes I make as a student pilot at 50 hours on to PPL makes me realize I don’t need to be so hard on myself. As long as you understand a mistake and correct for it, that’s what is important. Nice video man
i have zero flight hours just got into sims and hope to get my private pilots license in the future if i can afford it and i gotta say just watching stuff like this on youtube is very intimidating. Looks like it takes quite a bit of practice, godspeed.
Still great to watch again! I thought you did excellent!
Been there, done that! When you land in one piece, with no damage, it's the most rewarding feeling!
My home airport! Brings back lots of good memories. Also flew out of K34.
I enjoyed the video of your X-wind experience. Have the two cameras was a great idea and a good way for you to critique your performance. I learned to fly in 1968 in a Piper Ti-pacer. The interesting thing with the Tri-pacer was it had self coordinated controls so that any aileron input also automatically applied the appropriate amount of rudder. To cross control the airplane for a x-wind landing you had to overcome the spring tension between the rudder and aileron. To teach me to deal with this, my instructor had me fly the length of the runway, about 25-feet off the ground and keep the airplane on the center line. After I became a CFII I did the same thing with my students. Also, you never quit flying the airplane until it is tied down. The position of the aileron and elevator position is set to compensate for the wind as you taxi.
good call on the full stop
On my pre GST flight at Weston in Ireland, i had the pleasure of landing a 150 in gusting 26 knots. The instructor was butt clenching and said afterwards he thought we were done for or would have to redirect to the nearby Military airfield. Not bad considering the 150 is only meant for 15 knots cross wind.
Nice to find another KOCJ flyer. :)
I had my jaw dropped when I seen this - it's EXACTLY what happened to me today! I am PPL under 100 hours and I love go flying as often as possible in the x-wind. I fly diesel PA-28. X-wind was about 15 knots gusting 18. So my first circuit was meh, I overshoot on base, on short final I felt I am too high and too fast, and by the numbers I went around crabbing on my upwind. Second approach was way better and I landed on a stall warning, but there was a feeling that I am going much faster. So I chickened out and made it a full stop :) We have a grass runway with no markings, I so wish I had camera to see how I was on final and if I touched down with a correct main first... Respect to you, great video - we must do this practicing as it's the only way to learn. I will definetely pick some very windy day and go doing ccts with the more experienced pilot in my right seat :)
Those were two good landings...well done. I didn't really get the hang of them until I was on DC-3s. I used your/my technique on a dirty night into Toronto in a B737. Success is satisfying.
I think you did a marvellous job!
Very informative! Thank you for sharing! MiF
Well done! Good practice!
this is great hats off to you.... if you fly in tropics this everyday news....wonderfull....young skywalker.......pilot that don'ts fly in wild weather needs too ......you never know what your goin get ....you sound like your still learning......we all are.....hats off to you young skywalker.....micheal
Great Video!, Thanks for sharing the video and your comments on the landing. I just completed my first solo and have been able to fly once more solo since then. I've been recording my flights too...and your correct, its a great tool for reviewing flights after.
Invaluable for training. During training it's easy to become task-saturated and miss important points in flight. I always find things on the video I missed as it was unfolding in real time.
Good judgement doing go around. I’ve flown in similar conditions and can identify with the “why didn’t I just full stop” comment. Keep up the good work and always err on the side of caution. Thanks for posting.
Great video and very interesting, thanks. 👍
Good work,,sounds like Class D
Very good video and sharing experience. Liked when you mention why did I go around again.....think we have all been there.
I know a guy who landed a Cessna 150 with 30 knots of gusting crosswind (x-wind component was 23 knots). His checklist was
Balls - check
Plane - check
Nice job! There’s only one way to get the hang of crosswind landings and that’s to get out there and do it. That’s how good pilots become great pilots.
useful vid, thanks for sharing
This is a great actual real time video of common conditions all pilots encounter. And a first hand account of the pilots thinking process in dealing with it. I flew 152 Cessna s when I was 13 years old though no official log time. I started official lessons at 17 at another airport in a Cherokee 140 with an old ww2 combat pilot. First time up. Coming into land a storm had moved in with heavy gusts. I asked to land and if I had trouble do a go around to give control back to him. I was perfectly crab legged sideways on approach looking out passenger side window complete and perfectly sideways.. I got to the left of runway nose into the wind and kicked it around with rudder at last second all the way to the stop on ailerons. Used a lot of throttle control to fly it to the ground. I'm not going to say what the last minute crosswind was because you wouldn't believe me. When we taxied to a stop and tied down he told me Son I been flying a long time. Some people have to work for it. And some people are born with it. You were born with it. My head was 10 ft big. But I know reality punishes such things when it comes to flying. Life took me away from it and I never got to do what I really wanted. My hats off to you. Thanks for sharing video.
That was rewarding and exhilarating to hear "You were born with it"! Wish you could get back to do what you are talented again!
Cool video! Great job landing with that crazy cross factor
AMAZING job..... Loved the video.
Nice, always good to practice in a slight breeze.
Great teaching video. thanks
Bloody well done old lad! Your landings were good with that xwind component. I have an ATPL, ATPL H and with gliding, some 165000 flying hours. You did well. Somee pilots wuld teach the wing down technique but the crab is definitely the best.
This was an interesting video which brought back some memories. Long ago I was a young student pilot practicing takeoffs and landings in a Cessna during crosswind conditions with my flight instructor. I believe the windspeed that day was probably 15 knots gusting to 20 because he said if it had been stronger, we wouldn't have flown. Well, it felt plenty strong to me. He had me turn the yoke all the way down into the wind during initial takeoff, and darn near all the way down while landing (or so it seemed). To my surprise, I got the hang of that process reasonably well without too much trouble. It was a lot like leaning into a stiff wind when you're walking. Also on landings, once I was over the runway, I learned to come down on the near wheel first and then set down on the far wheel afterward. It took some concentration, but I found I could do it fairly smoothly. For some reason, though, it was the constant crabbing and drifting while up in the air that always gave me the most trouble, always throwing me off when I was trying to focus on other things. It's kind of like trying to swim to shore while the ocean current keeps pulling you down the beach away from your hotel, and it got exhausting after a while. Being at the controls of an airplane at age 16 is exhilarating, but I tell you, it's no fun trying to land when the runway just doesn't want to line up straight.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. That swimming thing is a good analogy.
Weather briefings, never take them for granted...
Like a decent bj, right?
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Good video...thanks for sharing!
very nice!
Kudos for sharing your flight. I recall my first crosswind landing in a 3 axis microlight, I was swearing all the way down. Amusingly, the radio TX button had got stuck down, so everyone at the airfield heard me!
Too funny. As I move up to heavier planes I'm starting to realize it takes a lot more skill to land a light plane in challenging winds than a heavy plane. You are certainly busier with your hands and feet.
Great video and something I see you doing, that I was also prone to do....and that's overshoot the runway when you turn base/final on gusty days, particularly when the xwind is coming from the left in a left pattern. For me, I have some personal minimums in xwind landings and that's "on centerline, correct flaps setting, correct airspeed, correct crab angle at 500' AGL or I go around." If I don't have those, then I'm not on a stabile approach and it will take alot of skill/luck/effort to get on a stable approach at that point. That's in calm conditions...in high wind conditions it just complicates the mental processing required. It's not worth the risk and I'm not forcing a landing. On another note, I really appreciate your calm demeanor in the cockpit because that's also a huge part of managing situations like this. Well done.
I learned to fly in a 172 way back when on the oregon coast and was windy most of the time execpt early mourning. after I soloed at 10 hours I injoyed the challenge of windy landings 10 t0 20 mph was just easy 20 t0 30 a little more exciting and challenging. I can remember so many days valley pilots would fly over from eugene with 200 0r 300 hours under their belts and try to land and give up after 2 or 3 attempts and go back to eugene. now florance airport is 3 times as wide with no potholes to dodge and longer and less intimidating but I miss the old days.
Great video! My palms are sweating holding my iPad.
Great landings. Good work.