Grain Spawn Experiment FULL: Finding the best type of grains for mushroom farming
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Fresh from the Farm Fungi's Gary dives deep into grain spawn exploration. This video covers the full comparison between millet, wheat, rye, oats and pop corn grains used as grain spawn! The race is on and yields are on the line in this exciting Myco-experiment MUSHLOVE
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OK here is the deal: For the last 4-5 years, I have been watching so many and many videos related to mushroom growing, so I can learn about this science, in terms of doing the most with the least amount of work and expenses. If I had my own Oscar award organization, I would have given this video the TOP AWARD in lots of categories. The first one would be: you truly took the time in PLANNING the topic you wanted to present. The second category, lets call it STAGING, you generously set the stage for all different grains for benefit of your viewers! That means you CARE and have EMPATHY for viewers like me from Missouri so you went the extra mile for creating small size grain containers. Also an award for executing your research plan for extended number of days. Keep up the good work!
thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🍄❤️
I agree 💯% , very informative video, I love experiments like this ! Plus this guy seems like a nice person and authentic, anywho take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Would have liked brown rice tested. It is used all over the world and is available. The ones tested are often not available...
I'm in Philippines...thanks.
But he did not explain anything about the bulk substrate 😕
@@Bozzigmupp that wasn't the topic of the video. So that makes sense. He covered the topic of the video very thoroughly I thought.
best mycology channel on youtube
thanks!
Hey Gary, what a great experiment, and thanks for sharing it with us. The so-called porosity is another factor that can be used to determine if the grains tend to be more on the dryer side or the wet site. Here, Oats are more on the dryer side, and corn on the wet side. Wheat, millet, and rye are in between. Congrats on the new book.
Great video, I love that it wasn't a series, but rather a full start to finish video. I am ready to start growing and your videos have helped a lot.
Dude get tf outta here with that shit. This is RUclips
Potential nark alert
Gary, this video was genuinely awesome! I especially enjoyed being shocked on which grains cane out on top for times and weights. Thank you SOO MUCH for sharing the journey with us on this!!
I am from Romania and I am happy to follow you. The problem is that I don't know the language and google doesn't translate well. However, I understand something with the help of images. I'm a beginner in the field. I think it's a fun hobby. Thanks for all the tips!
Hello
I wonder how a millet/popcorn blend would work. The millet could fill in the gaps around the popcorn, letting you pack in more calories.
Epic video! By far the most educational, start to finish, thorough RUclips video I've ever seen. Well done!👏
I've been testing on barley. Seems to be fine. A 50lb bag for 12.50 from a farm store. Wild bird feed works also it has a mixture of everything.
you're the realest for doing this. I was just thinking I should probably expand upon my agar and grain options to test each culture against. gotta find that highest preforming set up.
Great experiment, not the result I was expecting. Thanks for the vid 👍
Thank you so much for this experiment, we loved it. Keep them coming
Best mycology content out there, thanks for sharing all your experience!
I will say, your workshop was incredible. Thank you
Super grateful that you posted your experiment here. I’m did a mix of rye and millet at a 7/30 ratio and it worked spectacular. Shortly after my first break and shake it was full colonized within days
Excellent experiment, I really appreciate you sharing this information. I’d love to see a ‘grow-off’ between wheat, millet, and sorghum/mylo ❤
That is a big ass flo Hood
Such a dope video. Really cool to watch the experiment process!
I did similar test, considered combination of their hydration capacity, size, nutritional value and price. Rye is almost pure winner in my book, especially when i pay 1$ per 10lbs*.
*Buying directly from small farmer, which doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides or herbicides. They aren't the most pretty ones and cleanest, but washing and separating floaters solves the problem. Floaters are amazingly well accepted as spawn run by Ganoderma btw, so nothing goes waste.
cool thanks for the ideas!
Milo (sorghum) grain is my preferred spawn. It’s excellent.
If you ever do the test again you might want to try using whole grains like ya did and then do another set with crushed grains like say rolled corn just to see if it speeds up colonization. It’d be an interesting test
Great video! Thank you so much for running that experiment! What beautiful mushrooms . I’m a year late discovering your videos but I’m learning so much from your channel ❤
Really helpful experiment. It's great to finish with what really matters, it's whatever you can get cheap! And that's going to vary based on Time, Location, etc
I think an experiment like this would be best performed over a long term, recording averages. Otherwise a single instance like this is going to be anecdotal at best. Run solely corn for a few months. Measure the performance like you did here, but average it across many, many bags. See how it performs with different species. See how different levels of moisture affect the performance, etc. Then repeat for the different grains. I suspect there a lot more variables here affecting the results than what grains were used, personally. The good news is this: all the selected grains produced mushrooms! So for newbies, the key lesson here should be to "just start!". Don't be afraid. Buy whatever is cheap and easy to get, and use it.
yes my own experiences are reflected in this video but once I have more data I will revisit this
Millet is awesome, although with prices as they are, Whole Oats is the cheapest, best option for my grows.
It was 16 bucks for a 50 lb bag of whole oats and now it is up to 26 bucks. Millet is 42 bucks for a 50 lb bag.
Thanks a lot for the work and Info.
Regards from Germany
Hey neighbor, I'm here in Denver too. Very cool experiment, just getting into cultivating gourmet mushrooms and I'm finding the process and engineering to be some of the most fun parts. I'd love to see a rundown of your equipment and setup (if you haven't posted something like that already). I've hella gotten way ahead of myself while waiting for my spawn to colonize, I'm attempting to design and build an embedded control system to monitor and handle FAE and humidity automatically in the fruiting phase. Mostly for fun, I'm sure it's extremely impractical. But it's been an incredible learning experience as I have done several "dry runs" with a kind of mock bulk substrate to test the system. Your videos have helped me a ton, so thank you! I'd love to take a class if you start doing those again.
cool! Check out our farm tour video here - ruclips.net/video/OSbySIa5lBE/видео.html There is definitely a need for this in the market space right now I use inkbirds amzn.to/3wPjfle but they do not have a CO2 sensor so it took a bit to dial in and still continues to drift now and again. If you could manage that and keep the price point reasonable Id be interested for sure! Also, check out the video on air exchange explained in breaks down the environmentals more
Gary.... you did an excellent job on this video. Thank you for showing people how fast millet gets the mushrooms growing! Keep up the good work!
As popcorn has a very hard outer layer, consider using cracked field corn ?
Whole corn fed to cattle passes through their digestive tack and come out whole. Pigs eat the cattle's manure and can digest most of the corn. Chickens pick through the pig's manure to get the remaining corn.
Gross, but breaking the grains hard coating it the answer to higher feed conversion.
Great video, keep up the awesome work! I love to shake and break my grain spawn 24 hours before I run it on bulk. Gives it a extra boost with the head start. Mushlove
Thank you for love!
What a great video - compelling viewing! The suspense was killing me! Well done.
I really enjoy the videos, you seem to break things down into layman's terms! Keep them coming
Brown rice is a fantastic grain to use for starting spawn
Thanks for the great info Gary. Looking forward to getting your book. Enjoyed your contributions on 90sm live stream.
I found corn very interesting. It always seemed to lag behind but always came back with a vengeance.
I only use corn after using wild bird seed
@@isaaccutlip5815 it’s often the cheapest grain too. I use wheat on my farm.
@@mattnsimyea if I just want to make 3 quarts of spawn I buy a bag of popcorn for like $1.50. I hear wheat berries are the best but I've never tried them. Do you grow it yourself on your farm? Or is it just a mushroom farm?. My dad planted some feed corn this year so I might crack some and try that.
Best mycology video I've seen on RUclips. Thank you for sharing so much information with us!
thanks! 🍄❤️
Gary, always a pleasure. Been following you since the beginning. I like your rubber band trick for side fruiting prevention. Mush Luv Dude!
My dream is to one day just do expirements like this but on a massive scale, like 30 bottles of each and averaging together all the data, and repeating and all that to truly determine stuff like this
I’d love to be able to finance these efforts as well - Give me about 10 years to grow the business and I can hire you for R&D
So stoked to watch this. Thanks for documenting your grain experiments!
I have been running tests using popcorn, with another grain that I used with 'Sillies' - Brown Rice. I also put coffee grains in there. Hydrate the grains separately, and combine. Imagine how many thousands of inoculation you end up with. Plus, the coffee is a good source of nitrogen. Humans like coffee, too.
I got 50 pound bags of oats -- the cleanest oats I have ever seen! -- at Tractor Supply, for only $10 per bag. I won't be using anything else for mycology work. The man who helped me was trying to get rid of them. Someone ordered 50 bags and never picked them up. I win! 🎉🎉🎉 TRIPLE CROWN WHOLE OATS, NATURAL is the brand name. I didn't have to pick out a single bean or a piece of straw out of it. I've been looking for a clean grain. I finally found it! 🙌🏽
good day to celebrate! 🎉
Thank you.😊God Bless!😊
Love this video. Thank you for sharing your work and passing along this knowledge.
Cool video. I’d love to see a pt 2 where you test Milo, Brown rice, deer corn, wild bird seed, and grass seed. Awesome content Gary
Millet and Milo are interchangeable
Wild birdseed contains millet and corn, for the most part along with sunflower seeds
Depending on the type of grass, such as rye, which is the gold standard, it would be suitable
@@aig9672 Millet and Milo are similar but not interchangeable and I’m aware what’s in wild bird seed. I wasn’t referring to rye grass. Don’t be so dense bro
@@aig9672 Millet and Milo are completely different grains. Milo is a type of Sorghum. Not millet.
Spoiler alert!!!
Wow! so the pop corn caught up in the end.
Great ..Excellent Experiment Process....n Clear Presentation any Lament can Folow easily...
Thanks Gary for sharing knowledge
I used rye all time and always shook it up.
I've never seen mycelium stop growing afterwards.
I lately decided changing over to millet.
Absolutely great experiment! Thanks so much for sharing.
Especially corn may benefit from a few pulses in a blender.
Very interesting work - Thanks!
Absolutely love your content. I'm a journey man mycologist. Been practicing for a few years now and just got my first flow box a 4 foot by 2 foot one starting to get my lab going. I've tried quite a few grain types but always love to gain (grain) more knowledge from a professional and traditionally trained mycologist like yourself.
Excellent presentation! I learned a lot and was fun to watch . Thanks 👍 take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Thank you for sharing this valuable video
Great video I appreciate you showing the progression
Thanks for all your informative videos Sir.
Amazing man. A well thought out experiment with a well executed video. Love that it was all one video and I didn't have to search for parts. Keep up the good work and I always look forward to you on 90s lives.
Great video, you can tell a lot of thought and effort went into this. Really appreciate it.
good work great information thank you
Man be my mentor in mushroom farming please, you are so passionate about it and I'm too
Wish you did brown rice as well but good job
Awesome videos.....your teaching.....I'm learning ....thanx for the great videos!!!!!!!!!
Thanks so much for this complete video.
love the head to head comparison, but would have been nice to have seen my favorite grain milo in there too!
Yes milo is a great spawn
I was in Colorado a couple of times ❤
Excellent! As always.
maybe a talk with a miller would help with your knowledge of grains they love to share info as you do. good luck
Very nice. You obviously thought a lot about this and the delivery was great. I also think at current pricing Oats is the sweet spot. But I would never have really known it unless you ran that experiment. Great job.
millet has a thin shell so it allows the fungi to consume the nutrients quicker
1 pint for all that substrate !! thats cool
ive had this 3 to 4 inch radius straight up stems canopy round first white then light brown shades tan look as they get older around 2 weeks cicle then they go down to and fade away only to pop up again a short time later they look huge y started mulch and pine saw dust to grow peach lemon tangerine fig etc little trees and wehad unusual mist cloudy cool weather all 23 year and they been fun to watch dont seem to hur the plants will see dont know much about them
Thank you so much for sharing this information with us all.
Bro, @30:30 Are those cubes you bustin' out for us to gaze upon??? If that be for real for reals then I tip my hat to you my good man as that is one helluva cluster packed ball of wonder!
Awesome information, thank you😊
Can you do one on bulk substrates
yes I will explore that Ive been experimenting with wood chips and masters mix
be careful as some are not edible. I got good recommendations and guideline on psychedelic from mycozabo 🆙⬆️👆. He sells and also grows.
Thanks man really helped me out!
Absolutely fabulous video very helpful and super informative very well done thank you!!!!
Great video by the way.
Great video keep it up man.
wow you really went ALL in
Can you do a part two of this experiment with WBS, Barley, Milo, and Brown Rice?
no but I might revisit this again
Great analysis
Its great to learn from ure experiments. Love this channel. I will experiment in near future with mycelium for product design in my studies, so its nice have people like u, who share their knowledge. 💚
Maybe an inspiration for u. I thought about starch und glucose based hydrogel, if crunched could be a good spawn material. It could be a more controlled medium. Anyway
Go ahead 👍😁 and greetings from germany.
One of my other issues, even with wide mouth, is using quart jars; because the jar is still more wide than the opening. With the 1pint wide mouths, the opening and the jar are the same ID, so the stuff slides right out. Quarts are ok if you have a long transfer needle, but otherwise the 1pint wide mouth are great for both spawn and lc's; it's really the only size you need with jars.
yes this is true but I like how many fit inside a pressure cooker especially doing test batches 👍
Look to Azure for whole grains .73 cents a pound for Sorghum
Do you buy the animal feed grade or does it matter?
Gary's been pumpin iron and drinkin protein shakes
mixing bags lol
Great tutorial !!
Can you make a video on how to create spores before inoculating into the glass jars.
yes we have one here ruclips.net/video/uSutQFMqo0c/видео.html
im astonished by the differences in yeild. maybe it's just probability or the later flushes will equalize them, but from the data, i'd think its definitely worth to look deeper into what makes a little bit of millet move the needle that much
Great video. Thank you
You look really nervous in front of the camera with the shortness of breath and awkwardness transitioning between sentences but that just tells me you are true to your craft and good at creating a quality product. Keep up with the videos and they will get smoother.
I appreciate it - they have improved since the beginning and are a constant work of improving and creating more artistic segments I just enjoy doing it for everyone! 🍄❤️
Great vid. I just wish you have used some brown rice as well
I left it out because my experience it tends to get sticky and mushy - however maybe in the next go around I can try this 👍
Hi Gary.
Could you bring out a method of Substrate using Rice and Soy substrate.
Pink light laminar flow...
Regards,
Arup.
Excellent video. Great info 👍
WOW!! Those prices are ridiculous! I just paid $40 Australian for 10kg.
So that would be 352 ounces for USD $26, which would be like $0.07 an ounce.
Thank u for the video, I'm currently using wild bird seed but am going to have another look at corn
Please make a video about chanterelle grain spawn and in Petri dishes.
Great video 1 day difference not even worth worrying about
Your wearing multiple sabres hoddies? INSTANT SUBSCRIBE 🤣😂🤣 Let's go Buffalo!!! Great vids btw
The fact that there's even a possibility of a food products containing anti-fungal pesticides is disturbing
Great content bro. I’m also here in denver.