OK here is the deal: For the last 4-5 years, I have been watching so many and many videos related to mushroom growing, so I can learn about this science, in terms of doing the most with the least amount of work and expenses. If I had my own Oscar award organization, I would have given this video the TOP AWARD in lots of categories. The first one would be: you truly took the time in PLANNING the topic you wanted to present. The second category, lets call it STAGING, you generously set the stage for all different grains for benefit of your viewers! That means you CARE and have EMPATHY for viewers like me from Missouri so you went the extra mile for creating small size grain containers. Also an award for executing your research plan for extended number of days. Keep up the good work!
I agree 💯% , very informative video, I love experiments like this ! Plus this guy seems like a nice person and authentic, anywho take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Would have liked brown rice tested. It is used all over the world and is available. The ones tested are often not available... I'm in Philippines...thanks.
Hey Gary, what a great experiment, and thanks for sharing it with us. The so-called porosity is another factor that can be used to determine if the grains tend to be more on the dryer side or the wet site. Here, Oats are more on the dryer side, and corn on the wet side. Wheat, millet, and rye are in between. Congrats on the new book.
Gary, this video was genuinely awesome! I especially enjoyed being shocked on which grains cane out on top for times and weights. Thank you SOO MUCH for sharing the journey with us on this!!
I did similar test, considered combination of their hydration capacity, size, nutritional value and price. Rye is almost pure winner in my book, especially when i pay 1$ per 10lbs*. *Buying directly from small farmer, which doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides or herbicides. They aren't the most pretty ones and cleanest, but washing and separating floaters solves the problem. Floaters are amazingly well accepted as spawn run by Ganoderma btw, so nothing goes waste.
I think an experiment like this would be best performed over a long term, recording averages. Otherwise a single instance like this is going to be anecdotal at best. Run solely corn for a few months. Measure the performance like you did here, but average it across many, many bags. See how it performs with different species. See how different levels of moisture affect the performance, etc. Then repeat for the different grains. I suspect there a lot more variables here affecting the results than what grains were used, personally. The good news is this: all the selected grains produced mushrooms! So for newbies, the key lesson here should be to "just start!". Don't be afraid. Buy whatever is cheap and easy to get, and use it.
Hey neighbor, I'm here in Denver too. Very cool experiment, just getting into cultivating gourmet mushrooms and I'm finding the process and engineering to be some of the most fun parts. I'd love to see a rundown of your equipment and setup (if you haven't posted something like that already). I've hella gotten way ahead of myself while waiting for my spawn to colonize, I'm attempting to design and build an embedded control system to monitor and handle FAE and humidity automatically in the fruiting phase. Mostly for fun, I'm sure it's extremely impractical. But it's been an incredible learning experience as I have done several "dry runs" with a kind of mock bulk substrate to test the system. Your videos have helped me a ton, so thank you! I'd love to take a class if you start doing those again.
cool! Check out our farm tour video here - ruclips.net/video/OSbySIa5lBE/видео.html There is definitely a need for this in the market space right now I use inkbirds amzn.to/3wPjfle but they do not have a CO2 sensor so it took a bit to dial in and still continues to drift now and again. If you could manage that and keep the price point reasonable Id be interested for sure! Also, check out the video on air exchange explained in breaks down the environmentals more
Super grateful that you posted your experiment here. I’m did a mix of rye and millet at a 7/30 ratio and it worked spectacular. Shortly after my first break and shake it was full colonized within days
you're the realest for doing this. I was just thinking I should probably expand upon my agar and grain options to test each culture against. gotta find that highest preforming set up.
9:50 Why not mix right after injecting? Can you go straight from liquid cultue to grow bags? Can you use less millet compared to other grains to get the same yield?
I am from Romania and I am happy to follow you. The problem is that I don't know the language and google doesn't translate well. However, I understand something with the help of images. I'm a beginner in the field. I think it's a fun hobby. Thanks for all the tips!
As popcorn has a very hard outer layer, consider using cracked field corn ? Whole corn fed to cattle passes through their digestive tack and come out whole. Pigs eat the cattle's manure and can digest most of the corn. Chickens pick through the pig's manure to get the remaining corn. Gross, but breaking the grains hard coating it the answer to higher feed conversion.
Millet is awesome, although with prices as they are, Whole Oats is the cheapest, best option for my grows. It was 16 bucks for a 50 lb bag of whole oats and now it is up to 26 bucks. Millet is 42 bucks for a 50 lb bag.
I did one jar but it got contammed - I think it isn’t worth the extra steps hydrating multiple grain types but I haven’t explored the benefits completely- it might be worth it at a larger scale
Great video, keep up the awesome work! I love to shake and break my grain spawn 24 hours before I run it on bulk. Gives it a extra boost with the head start. Mushlove
Really great to know. Generally a day or two extra for the cost is not a problem. The only other question tho would be potency. Even a week faster wouldn't be worth it if for some reason the active components were diminished. I'm also in Colorado and this market is about to expand rapidly I think.
I have been running tests using popcorn, with another grain that I used with 'Sillies' - Brown Rice. I also put coffee grains in there. Hydrate the grains separately, and combine. Imagine how many thousands of inoculation you end up with. Plus, the coffee is a good source of nitrogen. Humans like coffee, too.
Great video! Thank you so much for running that experiment! What beautiful mushrooms . I’m a year late discovering your videos but I’m learning so much from your channel ❤
@@mattnsimyea if I just want to make 3 quarts of spawn I buy a bag of popcorn for like $1.50. I hear wheat berries are the best but I've never tried them. Do you grow it yourself on your farm? Or is it just a mushroom farm?. My dad planted some feed corn this year so I might crack some and try that.
Thanks for the great video, it's really nice to see properly documented experiments. It would have been pretty neat to see how these grains compare to your previous procedure of inoculating onto sawdust. You had mentioned that your previous procedure involved spawning to sawdust to save on costs -- have you noticed any major benefits from switching to grain spawn? It seems like sawdust would beat out all the grains in terms of surface area, so there must be some drawback I'm missing. I've also heard that mycelium "remember" what they are fed and adapt; for example if they are inoculated in oak dust, they will colonize an oak based substrate more quickly. Have you observed anything that would tend to confirm this phenomenon? If so, maybe a mix of grain and sawdust might perform even better for multiple reasons. Thanks again for the great presentation!
If you ever do the test again you might want to try using whole grains like ya did and then do another set with crushed grains like say rolled corn just to see if it speeds up colonization. It’d be an interesting test
Bro, @30:30 Are those cubes you bustin' out for us to gaze upon??? If that be for real for reals then I tip my hat to you my good man as that is one helluva cluster packed ball of wonder!
Really helpful experiment. It's great to finish with what really matters, it's whatever you can get cheap! And that's going to vary based on Time, Location, etc
yes I have ran cordyceps on bird seed and the reason I didn’t run it in this round is because it was hard to evenly hydrate but I will do more in the future at some point I think it has its place in the market 👍🍄❤️
@@aig9672 Millet and Milo are similar but not interchangeable and I’m aware what’s in wild bird seed. I wasn’t referring to rye grass. Don’t be so dense bro
Interesting experiment. What about you crush the oat grains. Isn’t it more surface area for colonization? Maybe the moisture doesn’t let to aerate well.
im astonished by the differences in yeild. maybe it's just probability or the later flushes will equalize them, but from the data, i'd think its definitely worth to look deeper into what makes a little bit of millet move the needle that much
My dream is to one day just do expirements like this but on a massive scale, like 30 bottles of each and averaging together all the data, and repeating and all that to truly determine stuff like this
Very cool experiment! I love the cost analysis at the end. Follow up question: Oat prices have more than doubled this last year for me. Is it still your go to grain spawn?
Question.... As I started I read somewhere to add gypsum to the grain and did so since then. One source said its for the sulfur the mushrooms need. The others said its about being able to shake the grain up and separate it easier. Whats your thoughts on this? Seems you don't use gypsum at all.
awesome video! quick question, which size of rubber bands are those? i want to use with my bags as well, as they seem same size as mine. Thanks again in advance!
I wonder if you factor in cost of the other components of your substrate, and how much more you use to get an equivalent yield that you would with the millet- extra bags, extra substrate, extra nutrients, etc?
yes I have a cost analysis on excel I can show - it is negligible but at a larger scale this might influence my decision more. For my scale it doesn’t matter compared to the ease of finding these grains at a good price 👍
One of my other issues, even with wide mouth, is using quart jars; because the jar is still more wide than the opening. With the 1pint wide mouths, the opening and the jar are the same ID, so the stuff slides right out. Quarts are ok if you have a long transfer needle, but otherwise the 1pint wide mouth are great for both spawn and lc's; it's really the only size you need with jars.
It has all been said ! Your vids are always “right on”. Can you tell me which rubber bands you use, so that I don’t have to go through trial and error. :) Ken
while sawdust works well, it does not hold more moisture than grains so grains are superior half step for this reason. I think it works well to learn but it eventually loses the production race because of moisture retention
I think this would work but in my experience rice gets really sticky and clumps easily so when it is used as a grain spawn it doesn’t disperse as evenly in the substrates
Favorite mix to date after trying every grain possible is a 50/50 mix of red winter wheat and rye berries. I like the cheapness of oats but the outer husk on the grain makes it difficult to get the proper water content IMO
thanks for the feedback I think working with two types of grains is more complicated and also difficult to get proper water content at a larger scale - there is no wrong way but business often comes down to efficiency and cost 🤷♂️
Gary, your videos and sharing of mycology are first tier here on RUclips. What prevented you from testing brown rice here and what are your thoughts of using it as a grain substrate? I see you used rice in your cordyceps project 2.0 and I'm considering using it being easily obtained and inexpensive. Thanks!!!
Philly Golden recently did a similar experiment testing a bunch of different grains and brown rice came out on top which makes me wonder which variety of rice might work best as there are around 120,000 different varieties... purple sticky rice?
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OK here is the deal: For the last 4-5 years, I have been watching so many and many videos related to mushroom growing, so I can learn about this science, in terms of doing the most with the least amount of work and expenses. If I had my own Oscar award organization, I would have given this video the TOP AWARD in lots of categories. The first one would be: you truly took the time in PLANNING the topic you wanted to present. The second category, lets call it STAGING, you generously set the stage for all different grains for benefit of your viewers! That means you CARE and have EMPATHY for viewers like me from Missouri so you went the extra mile for creating small size grain containers. Also an award for executing your research plan for extended number of days. Keep up the good work!
thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🍄❤️
I agree 💯% , very informative video, I love experiments like this ! Plus this guy seems like a nice person and authentic, anywho take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Would have liked brown rice tested. It is used all over the world and is available. The ones tested are often not available...
I'm in Philippines...thanks.
But he did not explain anything about the bulk substrate 😕
@@Bozzigmupp that wasn't the topic of the video. So that makes sense. He covered the topic of the video very thoroughly I thought.
best mycology channel on youtube
thanks!
Great video, I love that it wasn't a series, but rather a full start to finish video. I am ready to start growing and your videos have helped a lot.
Dude get tf outta here with that shit. This is RUclips
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Hey Gary, what a great experiment, and thanks for sharing it with us. The so-called porosity is another factor that can be used to determine if the grains tend to be more on the dryer side or the wet site. Here, Oats are more on the dryer side, and corn on the wet side. Wheat, millet, and rye are in between. Congrats on the new book.
Gary, this video was genuinely awesome! I especially enjoyed being shocked on which grains cane out on top for times and weights. Thank you SOO MUCH for sharing the journey with us on this!!
I wonder how a millet/popcorn blend would work. The millet could fill in the gaps around the popcorn, letting you pack in more calories.
I've been testing on barley. Seems to be fine. A 50lb bag for 12.50 from a farm store. Wild bird feed works also it has a mixture of everything.
Epic video! By far the most educational, start to finish, thorough RUclips video I've ever seen. Well done!👏
I did similar test, considered combination of their hydration capacity, size, nutritional value and price. Rye is almost pure winner in my book, especially when i pay 1$ per 10lbs*.
*Buying directly from small farmer, which doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides or herbicides. They aren't the most pretty ones and cleanest, but washing and separating floaters solves the problem. Floaters are amazingly well accepted as spawn run by Ganoderma btw, so nothing goes waste.
cool thanks for the ideas!
I think an experiment like this would be best performed over a long term, recording averages. Otherwise a single instance like this is going to be anecdotal at best. Run solely corn for a few months. Measure the performance like you did here, but average it across many, many bags. See how it performs with different species. See how different levels of moisture affect the performance, etc. Then repeat for the different grains. I suspect there a lot more variables here affecting the results than what grains were used, personally. The good news is this: all the selected grains produced mushrooms! So for newbies, the key lesson here should be to "just start!". Don't be afraid. Buy whatever is cheap and easy to get, and use it.
yes my own experiences are reflected in this video but once I have more data I will revisit this
Can you do one on bulk substrates
yes I will explore that Ive been experimenting with wood chips and masters mix
be careful as some are not edible. I got good recommendations and guideline on psychedelic from mycozabo 🆙⬆️👆. He sells and also grows.
Where do you buy your grains in Colorado
be careful as some are not edible. I got good recommendations and guideline on psychedelic from mycozabo 🆙⬆️👆. He sells and also grows.
Hey neighbor, I'm here in Denver too. Very cool experiment, just getting into cultivating gourmet mushrooms and I'm finding the process and engineering to be some of the most fun parts. I'd love to see a rundown of your equipment and setup (if you haven't posted something like that already). I've hella gotten way ahead of myself while waiting for my spawn to colonize, I'm attempting to design and build an embedded control system to monitor and handle FAE and humidity automatically in the fruiting phase. Mostly for fun, I'm sure it's extremely impractical. But it's been an incredible learning experience as I have done several "dry runs" with a kind of mock bulk substrate to test the system. Your videos have helped me a ton, so thank you! I'd love to take a class if you start doing those again.
cool! Check out our farm tour video here - ruclips.net/video/OSbySIa5lBE/видео.html There is definitely a need for this in the market space right now I use inkbirds amzn.to/3wPjfle but they do not have a CO2 sensor so it took a bit to dial in and still continues to drift now and again. If you could manage that and keep the price point reasonable Id be interested for sure! Also, check out the video on air exchange explained in breaks down the environmentals more
Super grateful that you posted your experiment here. I’m did a mix of rye and millet at a 7/30 ratio and it worked spectacular. Shortly after my first break and shake it was full colonized within days
you're the realest for doing this. I was just thinking I should probably expand upon my agar and grain options to test each culture against. gotta find that highest preforming set up.
Was here for the same exact thing 😅😂
I am wanting to repeat this with Agar - it will be a very fun one
9:50 Why not mix right after injecting? Can you go straight from liquid cultue to grow bags? Can you use less millet compared to other grains to get the same yield?
I am from Romania and I am happy to follow you. The problem is that I don't know the language and google doesn't translate well. However, I understand something with the help of images. I'm a beginner in the field. I think it's a fun hobby. Thanks for all the tips!
Hello
Best mycology content out there, thanks for sharing all your experience!
Thanks for asking questions, finding answers and sharing the process. Love your content.
Milo (sorghum) grain is my preferred spawn. It’s excellent.
How many size your plastic?
be careful as some are not edible. I got good recommendations and guideline on psychedelic from mycozabo 🆙⬆️👆. He sells and also grows.
Wish you did brown rice as well but good job
Thank you so much for this experiment, we loved it. Keep them coming
Thanks for the great info Gary. Looking forward to getting your book. Enjoyed your contributions on 90sm live stream.
As popcorn has a very hard outer layer, consider using cracked field corn ?
Whole corn fed to cattle passes through their digestive tack and come out whole. Pigs eat the cattle's manure and can digest most of the corn. Chickens pick through the pig's manure to get the remaining corn.
Gross, but breaking the grains hard coating it the answer to higher feed conversion.
That is a big ass flo Hood
Such a dope video. Really cool to watch the experiment process!
Please make a video about chanterelle grain spawn and in Petri dishes.
I will say, your workshop was incredible. Thank you
I love this man, I've been using millet since the beginning and have always heard it was a B tier grain but have always had great results myself.
Millet is awesome, although with prices as they are, Whole Oats is the cheapest, best option for my grows.
It was 16 bucks for a 50 lb bag of whole oats and now it is up to 26 bucks. Millet is 42 bucks for a 50 lb bag.
I would be interested to know the results of a mix of grains. For example one part millet to four parts oats.
I did one jar but it got contammed - I think it isn’t worth the extra steps hydrating multiple grain types but I haven’t explored the benefits completely- it might be worth it at a larger scale
Great video, keep up the awesome work! I love to shake and break my grain spawn 24 hours before I run it on bulk. Gives it a extra boost with the head start. Mushlove
Really great to know. Generally a day or two extra for the cost is not a problem. The only other question tho would be potency. Even a week faster wouldn't be worth it if for some reason the active components were diminished. I'm also in Colorado and this market is about to expand rapidly I think.
Gary.... you did an excellent job on this video. Thank you for showing people how fast millet gets the mushrooms growing! Keep up the good work!
Gary, always a pleasure. Been following you since the beginning. I like your rubber band trick for side fruiting prevention. Mush Luv Dude!
Thank u for the video, I'm currently using wild bird seed but am going to have another look at corn
Excellent experiment, I really appreciate you sharing this information. I’d love to see a ‘grow-off’ between wheat, millet, and sorghum/mylo ❤
What temp do you incubate the grains? Great vid
Thanks! about 72F +/- 4-5 degrees
I have been running tests using popcorn, with another grain that I used with 'Sillies' - Brown Rice. I also put coffee grains in there. Hydrate the grains separately, and combine. Imagine how many thousands of inoculation you end up with. Plus, the coffee is a good source of nitrogen. Humans like coffee, too.
Great video! Thank you so much for running that experiment! What beautiful mushrooms . I’m a year late discovering your videos but I’m learning so much from your channel ❤
I found corn very interesting. It always seemed to lag behind but always came back with a vengeance.
I only use corn after using wild bird seed
@@isaaccutlip5815 it’s often the cheapest grain too. I use wheat on my farm.
@@mattnsimyea if I just want to make 3 quarts of spawn I buy a bag of popcorn for like $1.50. I hear wheat berries are the best but I've never tried them. Do you grow it yourself on your farm? Or is it just a mushroom farm?. My dad planted some feed corn this year so I might crack some and try that.
Great experiment, not the result I was expecting. Thanks for the vid 👍
Thanks for the great video, it's really nice to see properly documented experiments. It would have been pretty neat to see how these grains compare to your previous procedure of inoculating onto sawdust. You had mentioned that your previous procedure involved spawning to sawdust to save on costs -- have you noticed any major benefits from switching to grain spawn? It seems like sawdust would beat out all the grains in terms of surface area, so there must be some drawback I'm missing. I've also heard that mycelium "remember" what they are fed and adapt; for example if they are inoculated in oak dust, they will colonize an oak based substrate more quickly. Have you observed anything that would tend to confirm this phenomenon? If so, maybe a mix of grain and sawdust might perform even better for multiple reasons. Thanks again for the great presentation!
yes the grains hold more water so the yields are higher - with space as the bottle neck I had to switch over but I may revisit this 🙏🏻
Great tutorial !!
Can you make a video on how to create spores before inoculating into the glass jars.
yes we have one here ruclips.net/video/uSutQFMqo0c/видео.html
What a great video - compelling viewing! The suspense was killing me! Well done.
If you ever do the test again you might want to try using whole grains like ya did and then do another set with crushed grains like say rolled corn just to see if it speeds up colonization. It’d be an interesting test
Can you do a part two of this experiment with WBS, Barley, Milo, and Brown Rice?
no but I might revisit this again
Bro, @30:30 Are those cubes you bustin' out for us to gaze upon??? If that be for real for reals then I tip my hat to you my good man as that is one helluva cluster packed ball of wonder!
Brown rice is a fantastic grain to use for starting spawn
Great video! Is there a specific company you get your organic grains from?
we have tried many and there is local place in denver that gets grains in from kansas - it comes down to costs so local is best
Thankyou, another question
Does it matter if the millet is hulled or unhulled and which do you use?
Your wearing multiple sabres hoddies? INSTANT SUBSCRIBE 🤣😂🤣 Let's go Buffalo!!! Great vids btw
Best mycology video I've seen on RUclips. Thank you for sharing so much information with us!
thanks! 🍄❤️
I really enjoy the videos, you seem to break things down into layman's terms! Keep them coming
So stoked to watch this. Thanks for documenting your grain experiments!
I used rye all time and always shook it up.
I've never seen mycelium stop growing afterwards.
I lately decided changing over to millet.
Does your book show how to grow morel mushroom?
there is a section on it yes
Really helpful experiment. It's great to finish with what really matters, it's whatever you can get cheap! And that's going to vary based on Time, Location, etc
have you tried wild bird seed, its a mix of milo and millet and also rather cheap.
yes I have ran cordyceps on bird seed and the reason I didn’t run it in this round is because it was hard to evenly hydrate but I will do more in the future at some point I think it has its place in the market 👍🍄❤️
Great video. Where is the Wild Bird Seed at? That’s all I use. Easiest of all to get.
I was in Colorado a couple of times ❤
Thank you for love!
Cool video. I’d love to see a pt 2 where you test Milo, Brown rice, deer corn, wild bird seed, and grass seed. Awesome content Gary
Millet and Milo are interchangeable
Wild birdseed contains millet and corn, for the most part along with sunflower seeds
Depending on the type of grass, such as rye, which is the gold standard, it would be suitable
@@aig9672 Millet and Milo are similar but not interchangeable and I’m aware what’s in wild bird seed. I wasn’t referring to rye grass. Don’t be so dense bro
@@aig9672 Millet and Milo are completely different grains. Milo is a type of Sorghum. Not millet.
Interesting experiment. What about you crush the oat grains. Isn’t it more surface area for colonization? Maybe the moisture doesn’t let to aerate well.
love the head to head comparison, but would have been nice to have seen my favorite grain milo in there too!
Yes milo is a great spawn
Great video I appreciate you showing the progression
im astonished by the differences in yeild. maybe it's just probability or the later flushes will equalize them, but from the data, i'd think its definitely worth to look deeper into what makes a little bit of millet move the needle that much
My dream is to one day just do expirements like this but on a massive scale, like 30 bottles of each and averaging together all the data, and repeating and all that to truly determine stuff like this
I’d love to be able to finance these efforts as well - Give me about 10 years to grow the business and I can hire you for R&D
Very cool experiment! I love the cost analysis at the end.
Follow up question: Oat prices have more than doubled this last year for me. Is it still your go to grain spawn?
yes it only went up about 10-15% for me so it’s still by far the cheapest
Thanks a lot for the work and Info.
Regards from Germany
Question....
As I started I read somewhere to add gypsum to the grain and did so since then.
One source said its for the sulfur the mushrooms need.
The others said its about being able to shake the grain up and separate it easier.
Whats your thoughts on this?
Seems you don't use gypsum at all.
I used it for a bit - stopped one time after using up a bag and didn’t notice a difference so cut it out of my process
What is it that the rubber band does to prevent pins? Love this channel.. Thank you!!
thanks for watching! The rubber band prevents evaporation which can trigger pinning
Ever try bird seed?
yes there is a series on cordyceps being grown on birdseed I like it but it doesn’t have much consistency
Great content bro. I’m also here in denver.
Have you tried Quinoa? Basically the same thing as millet and organic Quinoa is grown here in Colorado.
quinoa is a bit out of my budget but would probably work really well
Quinoa would be expensive, wheat berries are a happy medium imo.
awesome video! quick question, which size of rubber bands are those? i want to use with my bags as well, as they seem same size as mine. Thanks again in advance!
they are standard size I got them at office depot I think in a large bulk bag
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi thanks!
I wonder if you factor in cost of the other components of your substrate, and how much more you use to get an equivalent yield that you would with the millet- extra bags, extra substrate, extra nutrients, etc?
yes I have a cost analysis on excel I can show - it is negligible but at a larger scale this might influence my decision more. For my scale it doesn’t matter compared to the ease of finding these grains at a good price 👍
One of my other issues, even with wide mouth, is using quart jars; because the jar is still more wide than the opening. With the 1pint wide mouths, the opening and the jar are the same ID, so the stuff slides right out. Quarts are ok if you have a long transfer needle, but otherwise the 1pint wide mouth are great for both spawn and lc's; it's really the only size you need with jars.
yes this is true but I like how many fit inside a pressure cooker especially doing test batches 👍
It has all been said ! Your vids are always “right on”. Can you tell me which rubber bands you use, so that I don’t have to go through trial and error. :) Ken
I think I got them from walmart
Why did you not do a sawdust jar to compare?
while sawdust works well, it does not hold more moisture than grains so grains are superior half step for this reason. I think it works well to learn but it eventually loses the production race because of moisture retention
Thanks Gary for sharing knowledge
Hey gary,Gary, it possible to take a liquid culture of portobella and inoculate grain spawn
yes it is possible
Especially corn may benefit from a few pulses in a blender.
Very interesting work - Thanks!
Is breaking the grain a bad idea? Or maybe using rolled oats?
Very informative. Just love you channel. Like to know your opinion regarding brown rice for making spawn. Thank you.
it works but it can get very sticky and is easy to overcook - but if it’s cheap and accessible it can be a great option
good work great information thank you
Great ..Excellent Experiment Process....n Clear Presentation any Lament can Folow easily...
Hey mate where can I get those racks that hold your bags when fruiting they are awesome
we made them ourselves using pvc, pressure treated lumber and killz paint for antimicrobial coating
What is auger
It’s spelled Agar - I know not many people pronounce it like that but it’s how I learned at University in upstate NY and throughout the medical field
Hi Gary.
Could you bring out a method of Substrate using Rice and Soy substrate.
Pink light laminar flow...
Regards,
Arup.
I think this would work but in my experience rice gets really sticky and clumps easily so when it is used as a grain spawn it doesn’t disperse as evenly in the substrates
Whats your opinion on brown rice?
Favorite mix to date after trying every grain possible is a 50/50 mix of red winter wheat and rye berries. I like the cheapness of oats but the outer husk on the grain makes it difficult to get the proper water content IMO
thanks for the feedback I think working with two types of grains is more complicated and also difficult to get proper water content at a larger scale - there is no wrong way but business often comes down to efficiency and cost 🤷♂️
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi 100%
Gary, your videos and sharing of mycology are first tier here on RUclips. What prevented you from testing brown rice here and what are your thoughts of using it as a grain substrate? I see you used rice in your cordyceps project 2.0 and I'm considering using it being easily obtained and inexpensive. Thanks!!!
thanks for watching and following along! I think rice gets too sticky for grain spawn - it can be done but it’s easy to overcook
Philly Golden recently did a similar experiment testing a bunch of different grains and brown rice came out on top which makes me wonder which variety of rice might work best as there are around 120,000 different varieties... purple sticky rice?
interesting, I steer away from rice all together because it becomes sticky and mushy very easily
Great vid. I just wish you have used some brown rice as well
I left it out because my experience it tends to get sticky and mushy - however maybe in the next go around I can try this 👍
Great video very informative! Where is the strain from?
Thanks I bred the strain in house a few years back
How do you keep your bags so clean after mixing?
Great video by the way.
millet has a thin shell so it allows the fungi to consume the nutrients quicker
@freshfromthefarmfungi are you doing no soak no simmer oats?
check out this one - ruclips.net/video/bpZ6ICCKQmQ/видео.html