That's great to hear. I'll pin this comment as saving people money is why I'm here. Could you please tell us your bortle figure (darkness)? It may play a role.
This is what this "hobby" is about. Great if you can/want to spend wads of money but theres plenty of room in the known universe for the DIY'ers. Fixed guide scope for multiple imaging scopes was a lightbulb moment!! Thank you!!
Spot on nugsy absolutely fantastic I love channels, just goes to show what you can do if you put your mind to it makes the world turn round .Keep up the good work and I love the channel I'm very bad at leaving comments but I think it's time to start👍👍
Hey Nugsy! Great cheap ass tro guide scope setup mate😀 Novel idea with the camera on top!! Great video mate, keep up the good work 👍 super images! Clear skies mate!
Some good advice there Nuggsy. Adaptors, for what they are, are some of the most expensive items you will buy. It would help if manufacturers standardised a bit more so you didn't need so many. Guide scopes do not have to be expensive, I actually use an old starwave 50mm finder but I 'm sure yours will work just as well. I've used a colour camera for guiding and it worked ok although I do have a 290 size mono camera now. Guiding is one of the cheapest upgrades to an imaging set up yet has one of the most positive effects on it, not just by increasing the length of exposure you can use but by the ability to employ dithering. It doesn't matter where the guide scope is mounted so long as it is pointing more or less at the same area as the main scope. I liked those planetary images. Especially Saturn.
Thank you. I recorded a few times before putting this out as I found myself waffling, so I've omitted lots, including dithering, in my attempt to keep it short and sweet.
Can't beat finderguiders Nugsy I knocked up 2 as one's on my observatory scope & one on my refractor, on the mini rig I bought a second hand SV Bony guidescope for 20 quid which works fine although the stars wont focus as pinpoint dots of light so definitely an optical defect somewhere but it works. Just need more clear skies to use the damn things lol.
Not getting pinpoint stars is apparently a good thing in guiding. PHD2 can find the center of a star easier if it's a touch out of focus. Going cheap accidentally worked out better. Listening to the rain right now... Come on clear skies!
Have been using SharpCap with 4 second exposures, so I haven't been using a guide scope and the things I like to photograph cannot be seen through a finder scope, so I use plate solving to find targets. I have an sv305 (IMX 290) which I bought used for $70 and an sv705 (asi585) on sale for $299, but use my sv405 (asi294) which I bought new on sale for $399, half price.
Nice lot of cameras there. Fair enough, you must be doing live stacking in Sharpcap. It's platesolving all the way for me too. Makes life so much easier.
It all depends on how long you expose for really. For fainter deep shy objects, nebulae and such two, three or more minutes can be best and for that you really need guiding whatever camera you are using.@@jesuschrist2284
@@jesuschrist2284 You may not get much from guiding at lower focal lengths, like 135mm, but once over 200/250mm it will help a lot. I'm at 1000mm with my scope, so star trailing will happen a lot quicker without guiding.
@@Cheapass-tro ty for this, its good for me to have an idea of when i might see benefits. I have a range of lenses, but wont move up to even my 135mm until i have some time at 35mm :)
These are the one brand I bought. Others are available on an Amazon search. www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086Z81MZP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&th=1
Not really. Not sure if I'd get prime focus with an OAG added as I usually achieve focus with about 10mm or less inward travel remaining on the focuser. The slimmest one I've seen is 9mm.
hey nugsy, my 105 has been guiding for a few years now on both a 60mm and 30mm scopes, just wish there was a proper ascom driver for it
That's great to hear. I'll pin this comment as saving people money is why I'm here.
Could you please tell us your bortle figure (darkness)? It may play a role.
bortle 7 mate. it can struggle now and then at 30mm but 50 and 60 has always been solid. @@Cheapass-tro
This is what this "hobby" is about. Great if you can/want to spend wads of money but theres plenty of room in the known universe for the DIY'ers. Fixed guide scope for multiple imaging scopes was a lightbulb moment!! Thank you!!
You're welcome, and thank you.
Spot on nugsy absolutely fantastic I love channels, just goes to show what you can do if you put your mind to it makes the world turn round .Keep up the good work and I love the channel I'm very bad at leaving comments but I think it's time to start👍👍
Comments are always appreciated (& likes), especially by smaller channels like mine and even more especially when they're complimentary, so thank you.
Great video and information thanks for sharing your findings
Thanks Tony.
I’m definitely going to try the pipe clamp thing for my 70-200 lens
See my DSLR video for more on fitting these. The rubbers may need cutting back a bit?
Hey Nugsy! Great cheap ass tro guide scope setup mate😀 Novel idea with the camera on top!! Great video mate, keep up the good work 👍 super images! Clear skies mate!
Hey Simon. Thanks and clear skies back at you.
Some good advice there Nuggsy. Adaptors, for what they are, are some of the most expensive items you will buy. It would help if manufacturers standardised a bit more so you didn't need so many.
Guide scopes do not have to be expensive, I actually use an old starwave 50mm finder but I 'm sure yours will work just as well. I've used a colour camera for guiding and it worked ok although I do have a 290 size mono camera now. Guiding is one of the cheapest upgrades to an imaging set up yet has one of the most positive effects on it, not just by increasing the length of exposure you can use but by the ability to employ dithering. It doesn't matter where the guide scope is mounted so long as it is pointing more or less at the same area as the main scope.
I liked those planetary images. Especially Saturn.
Thank you. I recorded a few times before putting this out as I found myself waffling, so I've omitted lots, including dithering, in my attempt to keep it short and sweet.
Thx bro it is very useful ❤
Glad to hear it and thank you!
Can't beat finderguiders Nugsy I knocked up 2 as one's on my observatory scope & one on my refractor, on the mini rig I bought a second hand SV Bony guidescope for 20 quid which works fine although the stars wont focus as pinpoint dots of light so definitely an optical defect somewhere but it works. Just need more clear skies to use the damn things lol.
Not getting pinpoint stars is apparently a good thing in guiding. PHD2 can find the center of a star easier if it's a touch out of focus.
Going cheap accidentally worked out better.
Listening to the rain right now... Come on clear skies!
Have been using SharpCap with 4 second exposures, so I haven't been using a guide scope and the things I like to photograph cannot be seen through a finder scope, so I use plate solving to find targets. I have an sv305 (IMX 290) which I bought used for $70 and an sv705 (asi585) on sale for $299, but use my sv405 (asi294) which I bought new on sale for $399, half price.
Nice lot of cameras there. Fair enough, you must be doing live stacking in Sharpcap. It's platesolving all the way for me too. Makes life so much easier.
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Love you too!
I'm using a ZWO 120 mini with the 9x50 guide scope and have no problem focusing with the lock ring in place. Works a treat doesn't it?
What made you want/need auto guiding? Am i likely to see a benefit while using dslr and various lenses?
It all depends on how long you expose for really. For fainter deep shy objects, nebulae and such two, three or more minutes can be best and for that you really need guiding whatever camera you are using.@@jesuschrist2284
It does make a great guidescope. I guess my sensor must be further back?
@@jesuschrist2284 You may not get much from guiding at lower focal lengths, like 135mm, but once over 200/250mm it will help a lot.
I'm at 1000mm with my scope, so star trailing will happen a lot quicker without guiding.
@@Cheapass-tro ty for this, its good for me to have an idea of when i might see benefits. I have a range of lenses, but wont move up to even my 135mm until i have some time at 35mm :)
Please post the amazon link for the pipe clamp rings.
These are the one brand I bought. Others are available on an Amazon search.
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086Z81MZP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&th=1
Looking for the cheapest lightest scope and cam for my gti, sometime in the future when im good enough
I've not looked into the lightest kit, but if JC isn't "good enough"...
@@Cheapass-tro ty for the reply, dont quite follow sorry :(
@@jesuschrist2284 Sorry, just a joke on your name.
If Jesus Christ isn't "good" enough ... then who is?
@@Cheapass-tro but jc didnt have auto guiding
Have you considered off axis guiding
Not really. Not sure if I'd get prime focus with an OAG added as I usually achieve focus with about 10mm or less inward travel remaining on the focuser. The slimmest one I've seen is 9mm.