18 Nails Per Board
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I feel like ive run into the handicapped children's building network.
can't say handicapped anymore , its not politically correct ... got to say either differently abled or Persons with disabilities :) FJB !!
@@Lucygil9 😆😆😆
One of my buddies who was handicapped back in the military liked to call it "handi-capable"
I say 10.
I can't believe the dude is actually proud of swiss cheesing the structural integrity of his timber lol
Start putting nails in with a traditional Hammer. You'll decide that no board needs 18 nails to stay in place
Rule of thumb, 1 nail every 2"...meaning 2 nails for 2x4,
3 nails for 2x6, 4 nails for 2x8... so, 3 nails r enough
If 3 won't hold it 18 never will
...so 50 nails?😮
4
I’m a fence contractor for 25 years. I’ve built many buildings. 3 per Perlin board is good corner I do 4
Stick with fences!
@Trumptrain2024Vance mind ur business n stick with horses!
How to weaken a structure 101.
If u put too many nails, the nails will split apart the wood grain. Reducing the hold ur nails have on the wood. Especially if they are clustered together. It will significantly weaken the integrity of your build. But at the same time u dont want too little. 3 to 4 structural nails/screws are all u need.
Code says they can't be within 1/2 their length.
1 to hold it while you bolt it on with washers on each side.
Lol. No
You’re actually weakening the wood with that many holes. Thank God this is satire.
You need MORE ! At least 25 , maybe even 30 .. and btw dont forget FJB !!
Let's go Brandon ✌️
😂😂😂😂
Lmfao
@@joethanks3745he's just one p3dofile, what about all the tax payers that continues paying tax so he can have his island,tax payers act out numbered and out gund! Weak men is the american tax payers! Keep sending your kids to strangers daily to be groomed tax payers!
Lmao indeed we won't forget fjb
No debate lol great grandma always said as many as it took to hold it up🤣🤣🤣
As a nail gun technician, each nail shot, destroys the lumber. If you put 18, you have weakened it tremendously. 4 nails is enough for 4” or more. Bigger nails rather than more nails.
I would do 5, 4 corners and one in he middle, you want 1.5" of penetration in the post, minimum, more if they are smooth shank nails. Your vertical blocks need/can use more, two columns of nails 3" to 4" on center, starting and ending 3" from the ends (or until the clip is empty, lol). Have a good one!!
4 at the most,if you were using a hammer would you drive 18 nails😂😂
Or a nail gun
Last time I was asked this question. Hmmm how many nails does thar frame board need. My reply was and still is. All of them. It needs all the nails.
Okay so for post framing with nails or screws, the strongest nailing/screw pattern is a five star. Thats two at the top, two at the bottom, and one centered between them. It is the strongest because there are always 2 fasteners supporting all the pressure from the gravity and wind.
Its your barn. Do whatever makes you feel good😂 Just don't half ass anything 😂
Talk about compromising the integrity lol. At that rate he'll need 1,000 boxes just to finish the project 😂
Yes, that’s absolutely acceptable
Back in 1984 when l was on a framing crew we had this college kid that worked with us part time. He did his essay on the strength of a 16 sinker nail. His research turned up information that a 16 sinker had the sheer strength of 2000#'s. Now that's not pull out, thats sheer. Most framing nailers use a 12. Not sure if they would be common or sinker. Sinker is the same length but skinnier. Both can have an adhesive on them that heats up from friction when driven in. you can also get ringshanks too. That would resist pullout as well. Dont know if this helps you but it's what l know. Maybe someone else can help further.
Built barns at Cleary back in the early 90's we hand nailed then. Two 20 Penny's per gurt at pole .
I’ve built a couple barns, I fill up my tie straps and hangers when I can, two by sixes into six by six I do a handful a half a dozen call it solid.
At a certain point, all those nails weaken the integrity of the joint. I’d also please ask that you add some steel brackets to secure the joint
Remember that too many nails will potentially split the wood. Put blocks under everywhere like you did and put 2 nails top a bottom and stagger every 12” in between. And 4-5 nails in the horizontal connection. Use 31/2” galvanized nails. You’re good now.
wood has a shear strength...the more nails or holes that you put in the wood ,the easier it is to shear it off..or break it off.. you can look up the nail pattern for the best hold
Are lag bolts the better way?
Pole barns are typically fastened with bailing twine
A throw bolt 🔩 probably be better. But the sheer strength of a 16p nail is like a ton
Tear it down and start over, you've already weakened the wood beyond repair. Like someone else suggested, one nail to hold, then hot-dipped galvanized bolts, nuts, and washers. My grandfather built a large barn in this manner and it's still standing straight & tall 101 years later.
We ain’t go to the same school buddy and I’m glad
I know this is a joke but i actually saw a homeowners wife do this very thing with a ledger board. She had it practically completely sewn with nails. Guy got home and tried his best not to freak out.
4 is all you need 😂
Through bolts!
2x4=2 2x6/2x8=4 nails per joint minimum max nails per board according to NJ building code for a 2x8 is 8 nails. NJ inspectors will want any board with more then the max replaced.
So I was making fun of myself for what was very clearly using way too many nails
Also, I think there is a difference in fasteners between toothpick lumberyard two by fours and true dimensional, rough sawn, old growth hardwood
@@RockhillfarmYT I agree. !!! 🧬
If you put a bunch of holes in a plank is it stronger or weaker?
You need two staggered nails, them two galvanized-countersunk carriage bolts.
Believe it or not but that many naiks in one board can actually weaken it and cause it to break apart at the nailed area ... Its almost like its been perforated like a piece of paper... However , due to the leverage generatsd at the bottom from the weight added as you build , i woukdnt use just 3 nails either but maybe 6-8 ... It really just all depends upon the structure and whats it going to be used for and for how long according to its mass and the materials being used ....
I’ve never seen someone use so many nails before 😂 you must get them for free
You forgot to add a few screws, hurricane clips, then liquid nails the seems!
I don’t know when I built mine. I put nails and screws in use a nail gun, the nail them up and then I went back and put screws and every one of them.
How bad is the wind load there? you don't need that many. I agree with the other poster, drive a few nails by hand and you will probably assume that 4 to 6 is enough.
Well 16 penny nails are about 5 cents per nail.
Nailer nails are a bit smaller in diameter.I would use 3 1/2 LG ring ring shank and stagger the nails vertically, 3 should be good but 4 is ok,make sure you stagger them or you will encourage splitting uour post.
There is actually a mathematical equation to answer your question. Take the total weight of the lumber (in pounds), multiply it by the number of feet the two boards bisect from the ground and divide by gravity (32.2 feet per second squared) to determine the nails required in pounds. For example. Attaching a 12’ 2x4 to a 10’ 4x4 bisecting 6 feet above grade will require 3 pounds of nails to properly secure the joint. Also note the number of nails per pound is normally found on the packaging.
How about using proper ring shank 40 d or 50 d nails meant for pole barn construction instead of residential 2 by construction.
Max 5 nails per fastening wood
As an engineer .. one is more than enough
I mean……..your friend was right
Boards lose there integrity when you make swiss cheese out of it
If you live in tornado alley? The more the merrier. Maybe even use some ready rod at some points. Plus some quick Crete in the bottom of the poles for anchors.
Try bolts an washer... If i was buildindimg something... Id make sure it would last
On the corner posts were you have more nailing opportunities I'd put in 5 nails in a x pattern were you butt the two 2×6's together on middle posts were they share a post 3 nails in each 2×6. Over nailing will just weaken the 2×6 then it has more opportunities to split. That is how I was taught. I did framing construction for a few years professionally for some companies in my younger days. 2×4's 2 nails. My first thought was holys-it you're nailing to much!
One in each corner and one in the center
Just to be sure add a lag bolt.
All of them that you think you need plus 1🎉
Needs to be a 50/50 mix of nails and wood left, need about 20 more
Might as well saw a joint there with all those holes. You basically perforated it for easy tearing.
The sheer strength of one 16p sinker is 2000 lbs. 3 nails equal 6000 lbs. You are just weakening the girt.
No comment. Just one question. how many boxes of nails did you use in total?
Used 2 timber locks on every post staggering the screws so the wood wouldn't split people will say well that's expensive and yes it is but putting 75 nails in a 6-in square that's not very cheap
Your friend is right how about listen and learn big problem for you guys today
You couldn’t tell from my tone that I knew he was right and I was making fun of myself?
Maybe the problem is too many people taking everything too seriously. If I do something stupid, I don’t mind making myself the butt of the joke
One screw and nut will outdo and outlast 20 nails. We don't use nails for wood joints here in Asia.
You need 4 drill holes and some bolts washers and nuts
18 per joint with a nail gun...Thats like opening up on it with a fully automatic assault weapon...Man up, put the nail gun down, pick up a BFH and drive 3 ring shanks per joint, this method will save you money on hardware, wear and tear on your most expensive tools,and give you a good cardio workout meaning less time at the gym and more time for leisure on your days off...
Four nails at butted 2x4s On a 4x4 and two nails on a 2x4 going through a 4x4
Just use Gorilla Glue! haha
Personally. I'd weld it
😂😂😂
One nail per every 2” width of the board, so a 2x4 gets 2 … 2x6 gets 3 and so on but it’s your building so put as many as you want..
The rational question is "How many joints do I need per nail?"
Depends on how long the nails are
Somewhere about 6 Ardox twist nails. They is strong.
3 four inch T-30 structure screws per point works best
I always use five ... Maybe it's my OCD I don't know but five seems right😂
I hate this so much framers having to much dang fun with nailers the wood is almost gone your literally damaging the integrity of the thing your trying to hold in place with nails.
You know four or five is plenty I love your site but this makes me want to reconsider please do more of your substantial content
I found myself doing something that didn’t make sense. Then I made fun of myself for it.
I didn’t put all those nails in there because I thought it would get people to watch my video. I was getting a bunch of comments that those nails might not be strong enough and they might be under the weight so I put a ton of them in there.
And then I thought about it a little more
I don’t know that four or five is enough. My rough cut lumber is a full 2 inches thick and my nail takes nails that are 3 1/4.
It doesn’t feel like an inch and a quarter is enough coming through the back
Jesus Christ you had to be one of those party poopers.
I really do think you're better off the hell out of this channel. Go be boring all by yourself in a dark corner.🙄🙄
Nailers make mistakes so easy, if using a plain old hammer there is no way you would need to ask that question, your sore arm would help you know when enough is enough
No more than 5
your gonna need a longer nail no matter how many your putting in. 2.5times shank length at minimum is the standard.
Your 2 in rough cut lumber is gonna need AT LEAST a 5-inch shank.
Plus 10
I would probably do 5 if im feeling compulsive. 1 in each corner and 1 in the center.
I would never rely on 3 or 18 nails in shear. A dado joint (with 3 nails) virtually eliminates shear and helps with wind loads.
Put a couple angling up, a couple angled downwards and a few in straight
How many nails....... All of them... Love it
This guy ^^^^
Only thing better than too much is a little bit more
@@RockhillfarmYT hahahaha 😆 😂 🤣
You've gone ballistic
3 nails roughly per board on each 6x6
Personally I would use lag bolts
I would do at least five for each joint and space them out
Eventually you should timberlock, lag bolt or carriage bolt. But good luck with 18 nails in the way. Just nails would have been fine if you notched your boards in the post, but now the weight is literally just relying on the nail strength, although that’s passable it’s not good practice.
After about 6 don't you start weakening the board? Splitting the 2x6 doesn't do you any good!
Should have used pole barn nails two at the most
My plan is to build a pole barn and have half of it as well as an upstairs portion being apartment for myself. My family has land under land contract so. Kind of a better idea to build a home on this property then go out and buy another one. So it's not four dudes in a two-story farmhouse
3... anymore and the wood will split...in your case or mind set... your fastend ends will dry out and shatter!
3-4 is good
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Less then 5 on a 2x6
3 is about right.
An old Mennonite builder I knew said you can never have too many nails. 😂
5 --1 at each corner and 1 in the center of the 4
If you use ring shank nails 3 might me enough. But if not I would use 5
18 16 penny nails ain't enough. Code stipulates 36
Use architectural screws.
156 nails
per board per side and then the higher you go up you double it every 10 feet
My local codes say 5 on 2x4 , 6 on 2x6 , 7 or 8 on 2x8 ...
17 is plenty