I love Jeannie because she is very PRACTICAL. It's EASY to be rich and say "follow your dreams" "marry someone for love" "leave that relationship" ect when you never had to STRUGGLE with a person financially for decades and never will. Once you go through that, THEN you can say that because that really changes your relationship.
EXACTLY….that’s why Jeannie said what she said. 🤣 I don’t believe Adrian at all…btw. IMO, she married the older man for MORE stability. I am not mad at it. It’s human nature.
Adrienne was not always rich and by the stories she tells us about her prior relationships you now she's the type of person who's all in regardless of your financial status.
@@2sense110 I don't think anyone is saying that A is a gold digger instead I think people are saying that it's a little disingenuous for her to think that she would marry Israel if he had no money. If that was true all the bills would fall on her (both big and small) and who wants to constantly be shelling out money to be paying for a grown adult.
@@2sense110 yes she even mentioned that she was looking for someone stable. I don’t think she would consider someone with a 9 to 5 making what the average person makes
@@avaisabella5585 there are some nuances to iron out for instance Adrian says she always dated people within her Circle she usually never date strangers so the people she rub shoulder-width most of them have money and yes I definitely think she would date a nine-to-five guy and Adrian has her own money
oooh Adrienne was triggered by this . She can't deny that her life became much more comfortable after marrying Israel (not saying she wasn't comfortable before). But she has all the Chateaus and multiple houses in different places and she's able to launch all of her businesses, her music career took off etc. I'm sure she adds her own value to the relationship but Her financial status improved significantly after her marriage and there's nothing wrong with admitting that . Not saying she Married for money but I'm sure that was somewhat of a consideration.
@@deardallasitsnola3435 that's what I thought. I was it's OK. Not everyone has to agree with you. Take a chill pill. And why I have a feeling that she is the type of person that everyone has to agree with her. I could be wrong
She did not like Jeannie’s quick reply at all. If looks could kill! Anyone who didn’t catch this was definitely not paying attention. She always has to have a “clap back” when someone doesn’t agree with her. It’s ok to accept feedback from someone who doesn’t AGREE with you and keeps it real my dear. SMH
That’s what the vows for richer or for poorer means. Y’all ready to raise helll over some cash? Nah fam. Jobs hire and fire people all the time. It’s not their fault. They aren’t in control of anything of THAT.
@@yashpatil8487 its not about marrying for money, when you work and someone else is reckless with their finances, you cant build a life together. you are carrying their debt after marriage too.
INDEPENDENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT ,WISH I HAD IMPUT IN MY LIFE YEARS ,MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT IS PART OF INDEPENDENT ,I FEELBIS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVE ,BEEN THERE DONE THAT ✔️ 😉
I'm glad Jeannie spoke up. Adrienne knows that she would not marry Israel if he had no money. It doesn't mean that she doesn't genuinely love him but being financially independent is definitely important
right theres a difference between being a gold digger and wanting someone who is financially independent . If your gonna have kids with this person one day and buy a house their finances and what they make is obviously a important .
Jeanie said exactly what i was thinking when Adrienne said what she said. It's easy to say you won't marry for financial security when you're already married to someone with money. Girl bye.
Adrienne didn’t like what Jeannie said but Jeannie’s right. And even if she’s dependent on her own money she knows she could fall back on his money because they love each other and he’d be there for her. Also they do work together so..
exactly its stupid when women say things like Adrienne about love and you look at who their with and they are a millionaire money is definitely a factor when marrying I don't know why Adrienne trying to act like it wasn't something she thought about. You don't marry someone with money just by coincidence lets be real .
@@jgibson8092 I think she got caught up in the "don't marry for love" part and was thinking in terms of what might happen after marriage. Cuz she said she married him thinking: I'd still want to be with you if u became poor later.... which I still think is bs. If she had a crystal ball that told her he'd go bankrupt in 2025, she wouldn't of married his ass😂
@@jgibson8092 Yes! It's a similar vibe to women who say looks or height doesn't matter...for most people, it matters to an extent. Let's not pretend it doesn't and you're somehow "better" if you don't care about that stuff
@@agirlhasnoname6306 exactly . Most women don't want to admit that they consider how much money a dude makes when they choose to marry cause it looks like they married for money but really it's nothing wrong wanting to know what your partner makes especially if you plan on starting a family that's definitely important now if your a broke woman with nothing and your focused on what the guy makes then your probably a good digger.
Adrienne explained herself 3x and still missed the mark, while Jeannie shut it down once. Adrienne was living in apartments before marriage and became a multiple homeowner when she got married to her financially stable husband. I'm beginning to see how out of touch her views are to reality.
Adrienne is very out of touch and tone deaf when it comes to a lot of things... she knows Israel was an upgrade for her...she couldn't do anything with the previous fiance that just takes pics of celebrities, she'd most definitely still be in an apartment. She gotta humble herself. Since getting married, she's had this peculiar "first-lady in the church" disposition about herself.
Yes Adrienne did elevate with Israel BUT she’s explained multiple times why she never home owned… she’s one person and didn’t genuinely see a future with Lenny so why buy a home when she’s not building a family it’s too much space wasted. She had her big girl money before Israel but ofc the union of their relationship increased their pockets. I think she was always deep down a boujee girl and Israel brings that out in her while her past men would shade her a lotttt (she talks about all these experiences she went through !!) to me she is happy and both are wealthy. She definitely did marry Israel for a combination but cmon you or anyone else wouldn’t marry someone who is broke and you on a talk show making money you at least want to find someone to hold their own.
Jeannie is on point!!!! I'm so glad she's back. Let's stop this narrative that love is all you need, because it's not. It's compatibility, shared goals and morals, a desire to forge through life together and many other factors. You can love someone and still be missing many of those things but if we're talking marriage?? Your partner should check most of the boxes and for me finances (and the millions of people who get divorced BECAUSE of their finances) it's a big ass box! Regarding money.....Sorry to offend anyone but, regardless of gender, its a huge mistake to ignore finances because "love will keep us together." Anyone who has truly been through the stress and pain of being financially insecure would not willingly go back. Now if you make enough to fully carry your partner (you pay for all the bills, all the dinners, etc. and their financially contribution doesn't matter) that's great. You're probably very wealthy. But for me, personally, I live in a big city. I'm not rich but I can afford my lifestyle, my apartment, etc. If I had a choice I would not choose someone my own age who made significantly less than me. I'm not judging people who make less, I'm just trying to make the best decision based on what I want for MY future. My opinion is if we're building together, we should contribute an equal amount of blocks. ALSO yes, there are sometimes circumstances outside of our control that can lead to financial struggles or poverty. BUT there are also people who are just bad with money and/or have no drive to better themselves (financially or otherwise). And that's very telling. Most of us live in THE REAL WORLD, in a society where every single part of our lives is determined by our income. A lot of people live from check to check. When you're choosing a partner, you have to ask: Can you afford to see a doctor? Live in a safe neighborhood? Live in a home/apartment that you really enjoy? Can you EAT? It matters!
Well said and I agree with a lot of this! Even if somebody went into a relationship purely for love if there are major financial issues that come up I dont think the relationship would survive. How can you focus on love when you are about to be evicted? Or you have to hide your car from the repo man? lol I don't think you can do it.
Phaia Wow. You just took us to church. Very very very well said. It's not at ALL about being a "golddigger", but as a couple we have to be able to live in a place where we don't have to dodge bullets. I may love you in the beginning, but after about 2 months of having to dodge those bullets, my love will begin to fade. : )
Agree with Jeannie. Love is not enough ladies... You need love, loyalty, respect, and financial stability on both parts to make a relationship work periot.
💯 . You need it to start with. Stability on any of these can never be guaranteed though, so you have to have the love/will to fight if that stability falls out along the way 👀
@@RKCOMPILATIONS Jeannie never implied that Adrienne married Isreal for his money. She said its EASY to say youd be with a broke man for the sake of love....when he's not broke
@@Doctor.Dentista you clearly lack comprehension skills, I never said that Jeanie implied it I meant that that's how Adrienne took it ,hence why I mentioned she wanted to hear her out.
@@ninawestlake14 all I'm saying is women should marry someone whom they love and who can help provide. He ain't gotta be rich. And you can still marry for love at the same time. It's not unheard of.
Smart women marry for both. In my opinion, one can't exist without the other. I wouldn't marry a man JUST because I love him, and I wouldn't marry a man JUST because he's wealthy. I'm tired of people shaming women for seeking men that have money and can provide comfortable living. That doesn't make you a terrible evil gold digger, you're just being practical. I can write a whole essay about the importance of marrying a man who is financially savvy lol.
Agreed..I always say they are equally important....but the messaging put out there is always love and not enough messaging about financial stability...
Right that is literally want marriages were based off of. But it was reverse when use to get paid with land or money to marry a woman, but men aren't ready for that conversation.
Awkward moment guys but I totally understand J's point. Until you've been through struggle love with someone you really can't say that you would stay and marry them despite the struggles hence the reason why some people marry for financial stability. The same way having money changes people... NOT having enough also changes people. People commit suicide because of depression from financial struggles. People become angry and push people they love away because of financial struggles. These are real life issues that change people. The one thing we cannot do in relationships is change them back when they do change because of financial struggles. G made some great points as well.
Yeah but Adrienne has been broken before (growing up) so in her case she knows what it’s like. She’s never been married or had a love like Israel before so if they go broke she knows what she’s dealing with on top of having the man she loves right beside her.
@@jazzyj904 going broke vs entering the relationship broke, or if only one person is the breadwinner vs one BECOME the breadwinner, makes all different realities. Love will simply not be enough in either one of these scenarios because emotions become very strong and can bring out masked characters some of which they didn’t even know they were capable of
Thank you Jeannie for keeping it REAL on THE REAL. I understand where A was coming from, but we know (from previous episodes) that A would not have just married any man that couldn't provide, even though she can provide for herself. And you know what? It's okay! We have to rid ourselves of this conditioning that we as Women have to choose one or the other. It's perfectly acceptable to require BOTH love and financial security ESPECIALLY when you already have both for YOURSELF. Welcome back, Jeannie! (And we still love you A).
Jeannie is spot on. I certainly married my husband for love but at the same time he was financially stable. I was in my thirties when I got married. I don't think I would have dated a man who was not financially secure in the first place. I wasn't interested in him for his money but I certainly didn't want a broke guy who would depend on me!
Jeannie has such an extreme level of self awareness and she is a realist. Yes she fell in love with Jeezy but if he wasn't well off she would not have married him. And there's NOTHING wrong with that. I don't think A can say that she and Is would be okay being broke because they have never been broke together. I believe in their love and I think they have a beautiful union but finances are a huge stressor in rships. Adrienne's sister and her husband came up together and they found love so they know if ish hits the fan they will be able to love eachtother even in that struggle.
Jeannie is speaking facts and also from experience, I feel her first marriage she did think well love will get us through anything but then things took an ugly turn during a divorce, she saw a very different side to her ex. For her second marriage she realized there's so much more that goes into making things work, so yes money does play a role.
@@zanayeclark8394 but not for financial stability, which is what they’re talking about here. Jeannie made 10x more than Freddie that’s why she had to pay out so much to him in the divorce.
I’m sorry but love is not enough when it comes to marriage. I need emotional and financial security too because I love stability. My fiancé and I both can take care of ourselves. However, I know if something were to happen with my job or finances, he got me!! And that same energy is reciprocated.
This episode was COMEDY. I so wish the cameras picked up Garcelle’s face when Jeannie made that point. Adrienne, we know you are not a good digger, but as a smart woman, you naturally gravitated to someone who made you feel stable. Stability is not just in faithfulness and love, it’s financially too…and that’s okay. I’m glad Jeannie was here to bring this conversation back to reality.
The tension between those two they must be fighting off-screen lol. I will say tho that Adrienne speaks every single time like she knows every thing like the way she yells so firmly every time she speaks she must be on their last nerve lmao.
Completely agree with Jeannie. It's easy to say you'd marry someone for love when you're financially stable. I doubt anyone would marry a broke person if they were struggling.
Adrienne you are married to a multi Grammy winner with a good net worth. Adrienne you have multiple homes and no disrespect your lifestyle was UPGRADED not to say you were not good before but come on now!!
Jeannie gathered Adrienne lol and I completely agree with her. Cause I was thinking the exact same thing when ade was talking about being broke lol. Loni has me dying with that loud drinking lmaooooo
As someone who met their spouse at a very young age, i was 18 and he was 21, we definitely married for love. However. We struggled financially together for years. It put so much strain on our marriage. We put each other through college and our early years were tough. Not like we are rich but we definitely doing well and now can enjoy ourselves in our marriage bc we are both established in our careers. So i agree with ade and Jeannie. We were young and i didnt expect him to have a whole lot of money or be established. However, if i were to be looking for a spouse now at the age of 34, yeah he better be financially stable bc i am financially stable. My expectations of my spouse is a lot different at my age than it was when i was just 18 yo.
Yes age and position in life makes a difference. For most regular non celebrity people when you’re young nobody has much so you build together. I was younger than my husband and doing a longer degree so he supported me through that. But If I were to be getting married again now I wouldn’t consider anyone who pooling resources with would not significantly improve my quality of life.
Adrienne imagine Israel not being rich, even though you have money he can't help you in any way financially. All the bills fall on you, you can't live in those multiple properties anymore because you have to have to pay them alone, while also supporting him and his other kids because he also owes child support that takes most of his check, he's in a lot of debt ect. How will that affect your marriage? And this is just him making maybe 100k a year. Not him being broke but as a multimillionaire you are going to have to meet him in the middle if you want him to be able to afford anything or just support him financially forever. No more elaborate getaways and trips ect and expensive presents. Your picking up every check at every restaurant and paying for every trip. Who would want that?
Add this, if Israel was broke and have to pay child support to All of his Kids and A had to pay it, let me see how happy she would be. I dislike when people speak on something they are not being 100 percent. A marry for love but what lead to that Love was Israel spoiling Her with vacations and fancy gifts. Please do not pretend like him having money was not a plus.
@@helenlevy5952 exactly. Women want to be spoiled but to be spoiled you need money. If her husband did not have the money to support his other kids which I'm sure is hundreds of thousands a year he is paying in alimony, child support, private school ect. they would not be together.
Adrienne is very lucky to be with Israel tho. She has two beautiful mansions in NY and Beverly Hills and is able to travel and have all these opportunities bc of israel’s support.
Adrienne way too in her feelings on this one lol her face she made damn she was getting so annoyed. She can’t take it personal Jeannie was just making a point for sake of devils advocate and conversation.
@@fashionwithoutlabels I think it was both that annoyed her, but it seemed like she was extra annoyed with Loni because she was affected by what Jeannie said. Mentally placing myself into that mindset allows me to see that the sipping would become unbearable, because I have been triggered and found surrounding sounds unbearable. Kudos to Adrienne though for working her way out of that triggering moment.
I think Jeannie's point was would Adrienne have married Israel if he didn't have money. Not saying she is using him for money but she probably wouldn't marry someone who was poor. So it takes more than love to carry a marriage.
I don't like when rich women like Adrienne claim to only care about love. It's easy to say when you make big bucks like Adrienne. She'll always be okay. The average woman, making a normal living can't say the same. Women lose economic potential when they get married and have children, they need to be dependent on a wealthier partner. Also, if you're someone who's is financially stable marrying a person who isn't would be a burden and you probably wouldn't do that. I don't Adrienne would. She loves the fact that Israel doesn't need her money.
@@mimia.4810 she would NEVER have married a waiter. Women do not marry down, we naturally are attracted to men who are above us. She would not have married a waiter.
@@ineedya123 Exactly! If Israel was making minimum wage at McDonald's she'd wouldn't even want him. I'd wish people would just be honest. Money matters in a relationship, especially for women.
I love that this was a REAL conversation and even though Jeannie disagree and Adrienne got annoyed. Adrienne snapped out of it and kept with the conversation. Love the rawness of this convo. Keep it coming ladies 👏🏼💕 Jeannie we needed you back lol
I agree with Jeannie. And it's not just for financial reasons. There's multiple layers at play. For instance, the man she's attracted to probably wouldn't be the same person if he were broke and struggling. His confidence wouldn't be the same. After struggling for so long, all hope and motivation may go away. Now, think of all the negative personality traits that commonly come with being insecure and hopeless. Then, consider the fact you're likely to become what you surround yourself with.
Marry for money point blank period. People fall in and out of love. Love don’t mean a damn thing if he leaves your ass for another woman . With money at least you will get paid in the event of a divorce/child support. Don’t judge me speaking for experience.
I was w my ex for many years and I was the only one working paying everything LOVE is not enough & def does not pay the bills. I’ll nvr allow that to happen again
Flip the script and you found a man that paid all the bills and you stayed home. I think he’d be fine with it. This is why men and women are different.
@@annatar6453 but I was doing both the womens and man’s role while he just sat around so he didn’t do anything. And if the script was flipped I’d do my part as a woman so he wouldn’t have to, and if the man I was with is fine w that, that’s fine because I know many men that take pride in taking care of their home & wouldn’t let their women do much much financially.
Adrienne felt offended when Jeannie said what she said to her because she's living in a "bubble"....Sometimes Adrienne is not practical and realistic. Jeannie hit this topic SPOT ON. Love fades when money does, "why" because the lack of finances in a relationship can cause serious problems and tension with the relationship, so do not get married if yall know that the finances aren't up to par.
Marrying for love is a relatively new prospect…I’m talking the last 40-50 years! Up until the 1960s, you married for stability, finances, family planning, societal pressures, religious reasons, family expectations, etc
I am with Jeannie, it's easier to say marry for love if you are already comfortable and most girls that say that be married to rich guys. Poverty hurts, me if I am well off I can feel comfortable marrying a broke ambitious dude, if I am poor and you are poor it is not going to be possible.
My husband is financially smart, responsible, and disciplined. I can count on him as much as I can count on myself. At the beginning of our relationship he asked me to help him clean up his credit and the fact that he was that concerned showed me how responsible he wanted to be. I learned from my mom how to build a credit background. These are important traits to have for marriage. We saved money for our first Apt. Rental and now we are saving for our house. And we love each other very much for those wondering lol.
I think any marriage should be a partnership, have those important conversations , compromise. financial stability is Important but have your own life first before you become someone else wife /husband
I agree totally. Have your own life and career/ job first. Marriage is different for everyone, it depends on the two of you. But financial stability is a must to help marriages to last. 🙏🙏❤❤
Adrienne’s face , I can only imagine what she was thinking in her head lol. But I totally agree with Jeannie. She didn’t marry someone who is struggling financially. And maybe she does feel like, if he was broke that she would still love him…but honestly I don’t see that for her. And I’m not saying , she married for that - no but I think maybe if she was younger and if they got newly married then maybe she could probably go through with that. But now, where she is financially stable..I can’t really see her being okay with just loving someone and them having no money at all or financially stable. I know for me, I’m only 26 and seeing my mom in my early adult hood, even now struggling financially - I promised myself that I would land a good paying job and be financially stable and marry someone who is also financially stable & that I love of course.
I agree with Garcelle and Jeannie. Marriage is not a fairytale and love and all that Disney blabla. There is more to it and it’s important to talk about the financial expectations before taking that route. Not only that, you have to talk about having children or not, religion or not, lifestyle and all other aspect. Love alone will not sustain a marriage, that’s why there is so much divorce nowadays
I’m sorry Adrienne but love isn’t enough in a marriage. If you are struggling you will see a whole other side of the person. And it’s easy to say I would rather be in love and broke, when u both a financially stable
I love my husband but I wouldn’t have married him if he wasn’t financially intelligent. He’s not rich but I know he wouldn’t let us go hungry/broke. Most of the men I dated didn’t make as much as me, one was even jobless and I thought I was in love with him so I paid for everythingggg for 2 whole years just for him to break up w me on speakerphone w his boys listening. Uh uh, I’m over that struggle love & wanna be taken care of! I don’t feel any shame ab it 😌 Also, it speaks volumes for a man’s character when he has the desire to provide for his woman❣️
Being financially independent is one thing, but you can get dragged down by someone who isn't on your level financially. Finances should be considered, love alone is not enough.
@@garygreen7104 I don't believe in 50/50. I like a traditional masculine man, with a provider mindset, besides am African, most men in Africa do their traditional roles.
@@omphilemoerane2569 Do you need to ask when I already stated it? This is my experience, not yours. I have seen alot of African men, who are providers, it ain't my fault, if you can't relate.
In this day in age its hard to fall in love when there is no money, money is the driving force behind everything. Even while still dating or in courtship. Without money the man can't take you out to dates, from where I'm from he can't even call you or text you, he can't visit you( travelling needs money especially if you stay far from each other)..the list is endless. Women fall in love when they feel taken care of, how are you gonna take care of me when you don't have money? I wish Adrienne knew this. If in their relationship it was always her paying for things, she was never going to fall in love. Money is a necessity for love to develop.
Adrienne really said "I disagree specifically in my case" like girl even if you are not dependent on him it’s the fact that you would have not married Israel or paid him any time of the day if he were homeless and owed money on child support, & that is okay. If I am financially stable my prospective partner better be stable too, it works both ways, so if I’m not financially stable I wouldn’t be dating in the first place my priorities will be else where.
I married for Love....and it was a struggle, financial.. stood by his side trying to encourage him build him up all while I was drowning.... After 10 years it was enough for me, only for him to say being a husband a provider was too much for him.
I think Adrienne is coming from a different perspective because she was taught to be good on her own. So it doesn’t matter to her what her love interest is making financially. Not enough to stop her from loving them.
People are trying to say she's lying because the people that she dates also has money but they need to remember when you're in the entertainment business these are the people you come in contact with and usually these are the people you end up dating. A consequence of being in the entertainment business is also having money and that's in her favor good for her. I am a man so some people are going to say it is different for men. But I know I have the same Spirit of Adrian. As long as the person I'm with is morally responsible and is not lazy I will spend my last dime to make sure that they're happy and taken care of
_FINALLY!!!_ A comment making sense instead of unnecessarily attacking Adrienne Bailon-Houghton... 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾💯 What has she done to some of y’all in the comments for you guys to unfairly demean her like this, SMH... 🤦🏽♀️😓
@@GoodOlAllisonHarvard imo, nobody degraded Adrienne. Just that a lot of people agreed with Jeannie more than they agreed with what Adrienne said or her point of view. That’s okay i think. People have been respectful in the comments. It’s obvious they love both Jeannie and Adrienne. However, as humans people have different views and perspectives of things in life. Audiences will agree and comment to something they find relatable.
I totally agree with Jeannie and garcelle , Adrienne doesn’t like it when someone disagrees with her, she’s very closed minded and she’s not able to put herself in other people’s shoes, the faces she was making were unnecessary and childish. Plus @4:46 even though she is financially independent I don’t believe in some ways she doesn’t rely on her husband financially.
As I stated before, Jeanni is talking about herself and Jeezy. The money helped her fall for Jeezy plain and simple her white first husband didn't have the money, fame that Jeezy has. Adrienne married her husband for his financial stability, she also dated Rob Kardashian along with others, so I would consider her a gold digger and too naive to know it. When she mentioned one time she was amazed by the ring Israel gave her said a great deal about her plus she grew up very poor which also contributed to her decision when it came to him. Her facial expression today, when Jeanni was talking confirmed it. If you don't marry someone who can provide you're a fool and will have hard times going forward. He doesn't have to be rich but, he has to be financially secure in some way, she should contribute too even if it's her money, education, or it will not work out. No smart woman would marry a poor man the second time as the song goes what's love got to do with it. To be real, no smart woman would marry an unstable man the first time either. Loni is slurping because she knows Jeanni and Adrienne married those two black men for money, love was secondary. Now that's Real.
I don't know why she did it but it was uncalled for and then afterwards she shift gear. She took it from a very serious conversation and turned it into gossiping about her friend
LOLOL I love that jeannie called Adrienne out. I was thinking the exact same thing! So easy to say all that when you married someone with money and you got 2 houses that you always posting about
Oh my goodness. The more I watch The Real, the more I agree with Garcielle and her views. When they ask questions, I have my answer and 99% of the time, it is exactly what Garcielle says....sometimes "word for word." Maybe it's that Caribbean water. Keep those comments coming, girl. I love the vibe.
I'm so glad JEANNIE said WHAT SHE SAID! ADRIENNE needs to realize that ANYBODY CAN change their MIND about being in LOVE WITH YOU. LOVE is not always GURANTEED to LAST FOREVER. I always say "LET'S ENJOY each other as long as FATE want us TO". 👀
EXACTLY! It’s a character flaw, point blank. Especially the older they get. Why are they not stable? What were they doing with their time?? Brokenness, especially in a man, begs a lot of questions. This world gives men all the tools to succeed, what’s the excuse? Especially if I, as a woman, can be financially stable. Women who don’t take a man’s finances into consideration before getting involved with them are either foolish, less than smart, or all of the above lol.
Adrienne would never have married her older husband with children and children outside of his marriage with two different women, if he weren't WEALTHY. She would look down on him. his wealth has opened up another lifestyle for her. Adrienne would never be broke in love with someone. Look at her nails, her hair, her clothes. it takes money to look like that. she would never give that up
Jeannie was like, "easy for you to say, A. You got money and married money." lol Loni's right. A has the privilege to marry for love. Unfortunately for many that isn't always the case.
There was a time when a woman wasn't able open a bank account, get a job, start a business etc, unless she was married to a man or if her father approved. So I'd totally understand someone getting married for economic opportunities.
There should be financial stability, but there needs to be something else there as far as the love that you have for the other person (& why you wanna be with them). If you're not in love with the other person's personality, intelligence, etc., you're using them.
Weve had this topic before and Jeanie and Ade were on the same ‘he can be broke but have ambition’ page. I think Tam was like ‘if you have the character i think you do, you wouldnt be broke’ I think J changed her mind because of her husband. Also to Ade, considering money is not just about you relying on the other person. It is also making sure people arent digging off you. Hes less likely to do so if he has his own. G is right. After that love rollercoaster, you are done with struggle love
So you explain to me now how Jeezy is going to react to find out that Genie married him for his money because Genie agree with garcelle who said you should marry for money the second time around and this is Jeannie s second time around
I am 100% team Adrian because it wouldn't matter to me if they were broke because I would spend my last dime on someone I knew definitely love me. And we need to stop using the word love as if it is devoid of reason or it is irrational and not practical
@@2sense110 Im not sure that you meant to reply to me because your reply has nothing to do with what I said. If there is a specific part of my comment you would like to address, please point to it. Also, no one said to marry just for money. You either misunderstood what G and J said or are trying to distort it. I appreciate what you are willing to do. I have lived my life that way and am learning to be more wary. People take advantage of givers and some people are very good at painting false images of themselves. The best would be to not come across such people but also not feel overconfident about ones ability to weed out such people to avoid stories that touch. Lastly, there is nothing in my commentary that says that love should be irrational.
This was some honesty for that a**. Lol I agree with Garcelle, you learn from your first marriage if it ends. I’ve even heard people say the first marriage is just for practice but the second is the real one. Idk I’m still in my first but I get what they’re saying. I think for Ade no one is saying that you don’t love the person because you absolutely can but you will not marry JUST for love anymore.
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I love Jeannie because she is very PRACTICAL. It's EASY to be rich and say "follow your dreams" "marry someone for love" "leave that relationship" ect when you never had to STRUGGLE with a person financially for decades and never will. Once you go through that, THEN you can say that because that really changes your relationship.
EXACTLY….that’s why Jeannie said what she said. 🤣 I don’t believe Adrian at all…btw. IMO, she married the older man for MORE stability.
I am not mad at it. It’s human nature.
Adrienne was not always rich and by the stories she tells us about her prior relationships you now she's the type of person who's all in regardless of your financial status.
@@2sense110 I don't think anyone is saying that A is a gold digger instead I think people are saying that it's a little disingenuous for her to think that she would marry Israel if he had no money. If that was true all the bills would fall on her (both big and small) and who wants to constantly be shelling out money to be paying for a grown adult.
@@2sense110 yes she even mentioned that she was looking for someone stable. I don’t think she would consider someone with a 9 to 5 making what the average person makes
@@avaisabella5585 there are some nuances to iron out for instance Adrian says she always dated people within her Circle she usually never date strangers so the people she rub shoulder-width most of them have money and yes I definitely think she would date a nine-to-five guy and Adrian has her own money
oooh Adrienne was triggered by this . She can't deny that her life became much more comfortable after marrying Israel (not saying she wasn't comfortable before). But she has all the Chateaus and multiple houses in different places and she's able to launch all of her businesses, her music career took off etc. I'm sure she adds her own value to the relationship but Her financial status improved significantly after her marriage and there's nothing wrong with admitting that . Not saying she Married for money but I'm sure that was somewhat of a consideration.
And did you see her face when Jeannie disagreed with her. Like she wanted to smack her or something
Exactly lol like it's ok girl
@@deardallasitsnola3435 that's what I thought. I was it's OK. Not everyone has to agree with you. Take a chill pill. And why I have a feeling that she is the type of person that everyone has to agree with her. I could be wrong
She's been on a daytime show for 8 yrs...shes paid
She did not like Jeannie’s quick reply at all. If looks could kill! Anyone who didn’t catch this was definitely not paying attention. She always has to have a “clap back” when someone doesn’t agree with her. It’s ok to accept feedback from someone who doesn’t AGREE with you and keeps it real my dear. SMH
Jeannie is right, its not all roses and petals, when you are struggling financially its stressful and shows a different side of a person.
Facts been there NEVER again
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That’s what the vows for richer or for poorer means. Y’all ready to raise helll over some cash? Nah fam.
Jobs hire and fire people all the time. It’s not their fault. They aren’t in control of anything of THAT.
So why not earn. Your self other than trying marrying a man with money
@@yashpatil8487 its not about marrying for money, when you work and someone else is reckless with their finances, you cant build a life together. you are carrying their debt after marriage too.
Jeannie's honesty is on another level 😂😂😂
Mother vibes lol
You can say that again
It's that #MomReality
We just love Mrs. Jeanie Mai-Jenkins!!!
Adrienne face was💔
INDEPENDENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT ,WISH I HAD IMPUT IN MY LIFE YEARS ,MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT IS PART OF INDEPENDENT ,I FEELBIS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVE ,BEEN THERE DONE THAT ✔️ 😉
I'm glad Jeannie spoke up. Adrienne knows that she would not marry Israel if he had no money. It doesn't mean that she doesn't genuinely love him but being financially independent is definitely important
right theres a difference between being a gold digger and wanting someone who is financially independent . If your gonna have kids with this person one day and buy a house their finances and what they make is obviously a important .
Absolutely
Damn Jeanie dropped a hammer on sis lol
Adrienne loves hefty men Rob k and another one
It's Adrienne's facial expression & Loni sipping on that damn strawwww🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jeanie said exactly what i was thinking when Adrienne said what she said.
It's easy to say you won't marry for financial security when you're already married to someone with money.
Girl bye.
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Adrienne didn’t like what Jeannie said but Jeannie’s right. And even if she’s dependent on her own money she knows she could fall back on his money because they love each other and he’d be there for her. Also they do work together so..
exactly its stupid when women say things like Adrienne about love and you look at who their with and they are a millionaire money is definitely a factor when marrying I don't know why Adrienne trying to act like it wasn't something she thought about. You don't marry someone with money just by coincidence lets be real .
@@jgibson8092 I think she got caught up in the "don't marry for love" part and was thinking in terms of what might happen after marriage. Cuz she said she married him thinking: I'd still want to be with you if u became poor later.... which I still think is bs. If she had a crystal ball that told her he'd go bankrupt in 2025, she wouldn't of married his ass😂
@@jgibson8092 Yes! It's a similar vibe to women who say looks or height doesn't matter...for most people, it matters to an extent. Let's not pretend it doesn't and you're somehow "better" if you don't care about that stuff
@@agirlhasnoname6306 exactly . Most women don't want to admit that they consider how much money a dude makes when they choose to marry cause it looks like they married for money but really it's nothing wrong wanting to know what your partner makes especially if you plan on starting a family that's definitely important now if your a broke woman with nothing and your focused on what the guy makes then your probably a good digger.
Adrienne could take care of herself period. Lol
Love Adrienne, buttttt Jeanie called her out on this one! She didn't marry a pooran, she married one of the largest Gospel artists. Money honey!
So glad Jeannie is back!!! She balances it out with the truth!!! Loni purposely slurping because she knows the real tea😏😂
Adrienne explained herself 3x and still missed the mark, while Jeannie shut it down once. Adrienne was living in apartments before marriage and became a multiple homeowner when she got married to her financially stable husband. I'm beginning to see how out of touch her views are to reality.
Adrienne is very out of touch and tone deaf when it comes to a lot of things... she knows Israel was an upgrade for her...she couldn't do anything with the previous fiance that just takes pics of celebrities, she'd most definitely still be in an apartment. She gotta humble herself. Since getting married, she's had this peculiar "first-lady in the church" disposition about herself.
This is it! You are correct. She’s completely outta touch with reality
Yes Adrienne did elevate with Israel BUT she’s explained multiple times why she never home owned… she’s one person and didn’t genuinely see a future with Lenny so why buy a home when she’s not building a family it’s too much space wasted. She had her big girl money before Israel but ofc the union of their relationship increased their pockets. I think she was always deep down a boujee girl and Israel brings that out in her while her past men would shade her a lotttt (she talks about all these experiences she went through !!) to me she is happy and both are wealthy. She definitely did marry Israel for a combination but cmon you or anyone else wouldn’t marry someone who is broke and you on a talk show making money you at least want to find someone to hold their own.
Jeannie is on point!!!! I'm so glad she's back. Let's stop this narrative that love is all you need, because it's not. It's compatibility, shared goals and morals, a desire to forge through life together and many other factors. You can love someone and still be missing many of those things but if we're talking marriage?? Your partner should check most of the boxes and for me finances (and the millions of people who get divorced BECAUSE of their finances) it's a big ass box!
Regarding money.....Sorry to offend anyone but, regardless of gender, its a huge mistake to ignore finances because "love will keep us together." Anyone who has truly been through the stress and pain of being financially insecure would not willingly go back. Now if you make enough to fully carry your partner (you pay for all the bills, all the dinners, etc. and their financially contribution doesn't matter) that's great. You're probably very wealthy. But for me, personally, I live in a big city. I'm not rich but I can afford my lifestyle, my apartment, etc. If I had a choice I would not choose someone my own age who made significantly less than me. I'm not judging people who make less, I'm just trying to make the best decision based on what I want for MY future. My opinion is if we're building together, we should contribute an equal amount of blocks.
ALSO yes, there are sometimes circumstances outside of our control that can lead to financial struggles or poverty. BUT there are also people who are just bad with money and/or have no drive to better themselves (financially or otherwise). And that's very telling. Most of us live in THE REAL WORLD, in a society where every single part of our lives is determined by our income. A lot of people live from check to check. When you're choosing a partner, you have to ask: Can you afford to see a doctor? Live in a safe neighborhood? Live in a home/apartment that you really enjoy? Can you EAT? It matters!
Well said and I agree with a lot of this! Even if somebody went into a relationship purely for love if there are major financial issues that come up I dont think the relationship would survive. How can you focus on love when you are about to be evicted? Or you have to hide your car from the repo man? lol I don't think you can do it.
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Phaia Wow. You just took us to church. Very very very well said. It's not at ALL about being a "golddigger", but as a couple we have to be able to live in a place where we don't have to dodge bullets. I may love you in the beginning, but after about 2 months of having to dodge those bullets, my love will begin to fade. : )
1000% agree
Agree with Jeannie. Love is not enough ladies... You need love, loyalty, respect, and financial stability on both parts to make a relationship work periot.
💯 . You need it to start with. Stability on any of these can never be guaranteed though, so you have to have the love/will to fight if that stability falls out along the way 👀
Omg Adrienne’s face and Loni with her drank 😂😂😂
Loni over there slurping shadily lmaooo
@@kindred42 the shade 🤣🤣 cuz I was thinking, so Jeannie did you marry Jeezy because of his money? 🤔🤣
Right!! I think we found one of Adrienne's ick. Slurping! Lol she was annoyed
@@joeyIizotte The slurping coincided with Jeannie's response. So, it could have been the combination of both 🤭
@@britbritnicole Yeah but Jeannie never said you only need Love to marry someone. Jeannie knows they need both money and love. Soooo…
Adrienne side-eyeing Jeannie wishing her maternity leave was longer 🤣🤣🤣. Jeannie is 100% right though
😂🤣🤣 hold me😂 are really being serious for real😂smh
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adrienne’s faces when someone doesn’t agree with her or listen to her repetitive story😂
She only did that one time and it was because Jeannie it seem like Adrienne married him for money , and she was trying to hear her out first
@@RKCOMPILATIONS Jeannie never implied that Adrienne married Isreal for his money. She said its EASY to say youd be with a broke man for the sake of love....when he's not broke
I’m glad J told her off. 😂
@@Doctor.Dentista you clearly lack comprehension skills, I never said that Jeanie implied it I meant that that's how Adrienne took it ,hence why I mentioned she wanted to hear her out.
It’s SAD!!!
Love don't pay the rent, mortgage or bills. No one is calling you a gold digger. But love is not enough for a marriage to survive.
I fully agree.
@@ninawestlake14 all I'm saying is women should marry someone whom they love and who can help provide. He ain't gotta be rich. And you can still marry for love at the same time. It's not unheard of.
Smart women marry for both.
In my opinion, one can't exist without the other. I wouldn't marry a man JUST because I love him, and I wouldn't marry a man JUST because he's wealthy.
I'm tired of people shaming women for seeking men that have money and can provide comfortable living. That doesn't make you a terrible evil gold digger, you're just being practical. I can write a whole essay about the importance of marrying a man who is financially savvy lol.
Agreed! It's only gold-digging when that was your only reason for marrying them.
Smart has nothing to do with it. The reason this is a debate is because often times you don’t get both.
Periodt
Agreed..I always say they are equally important....but the messaging put out there is always love and not enough messaging about financial stability...
Right that is literally want marriages were based off of. But it was reverse when use to get paid with land or money to marry a woman, but men aren't ready for that conversation.
Awkward moment guys but I totally understand J's point. Until you've been through struggle love with someone you really can't say that you would stay and marry them despite the struggles hence the reason why some people marry for financial stability. The same way having money changes people... NOT having enough also changes people. People commit suicide because of depression from financial struggles. People become angry and push people they love away because of financial struggles. These are real life issues that change people. The one thing we cannot do in relationships is change them back when they do change because of financial struggles. G made some great points as well.
Exactly! And HOW did they go from ballin to broke?
Yeah but Adrienne has been broken before (growing up) so in her case she knows what it’s like. She’s never been married or had a love like Israel before so if they go broke she knows what she’s dealing with on top of having the man she loves right beside her.
@@jazzyj904 if you've been following this show you know that Adrian loves real hard, she goes all-in. I believe and agree with Adrian 100%
@@jazzyj904 going broke vs entering the relationship broke, or if only one person is the breadwinner vs one BECOME the breadwinner, makes all different realities. Love will simply not be enough in either one of these scenarios because emotions become very strong and can bring out masked characters some of which they didn’t even know they were capable of
@@jazzyj904 right Jermaine good points but she come at Adrienne hard and I don't think intended to. Knowing darn well she take double shift if Jeezy
Thank you Jeannie for keeping it REAL on THE REAL. I understand where A was coming from, but we know (from previous episodes) that A would not have just married any man that couldn't provide, even though she can provide for herself. And you know what? It's okay! We have to rid ourselves of this conditioning that we as Women have to choose one or the other. It's perfectly acceptable to require BOTH love and financial security ESPECIALLY when you already have both for YOURSELF.
Welcome back, Jeannie! (And we still love you A).
Jeannie is spot on. I certainly married my husband for love but at the same time he was financially stable. I was in my thirties when I got married. I don't think I would have dated a man who was not financially secure in the first place. I wasn't interested in him for his money but I certainly didn't want a broke guy who would depend on me!
Jeannie has such an extreme level of self awareness and she is a realist. Yes she fell in love with Jeezy but if he wasn't well off she would not have married him. And there's NOTHING wrong with that. I don't think A can say that she and Is would be okay being broke because they have never been broke together. I believe in their love and I think they have a beautiful union but finances are a huge stressor in rships. Adrienne's sister and her husband came up together and they found love so they know if ish hits the fan they will be able to love eachtother even in that struggle.
Jeannie is speaking facts and also from experience, I feel her first marriage she did think well love will get us through anything but then things took an ugly turn during a divorce, she saw a very different side to her ex. For her second marriage she realized there's so much more that goes into making things work, so yes money does play a role.
I definitely don't think she married Freddie for love, I think she married for stability.
@@zanayeclark8394 but not for financial stability, which is what they’re talking about here. Jeannie made 10x more than Freddie that’s why she had to pay out so much to him in the divorce.
I’m sorry but love is not enough when it comes to marriage. I need emotional and financial security too because I love stability. My fiancé and I both can take care of ourselves. However, I know if something were to happen with my job or finances, he got me!! And that same energy is reciprocated.
This episode was COMEDY. I so wish the cameras picked up Garcelle’s face when Jeannie made that point. Adrienne, we know you are not a good digger, but as a smart woman, you naturally gravitated to someone who made you feel stable. Stability is not just in faithfulness and love, it’s financially too…and that’s okay. I’m glad Jeannie was here to bring this conversation back to reality.
Lol Adrienne’s face at 4:16
I noticed that eye roll 🤣🤣
Such satisfaction!!! Ahahaha!!!
The tension between those two they must be fighting off-screen lol. I will say tho that Adrienne speaks every single time like she knows every thing like the way she yells so firmly every time she speaks she must be on their last nerve lmao.
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I’m crying lmao
The way I love how Garcelle just blurts out HER thoughts in a not so PC way 🤣🤣 Imma miss this show 😅
I always look forward to her speaking, she does not care to filter her feelings 😂 it’s refreshing!!🥰
The real has been confirmed to be cancelled?
@@8luvbug it hasn't been confirmed, but there's a chance it might be
PC???
Im glad Jeannie is back. She is realistic and practical
Completely agree with Jeannie. It's easy to say you'd marry someone for love when you're financially stable. I doubt anyone would marry a broke person if they were struggling.
Adrienne you are married to a multi Grammy winner with a good net worth. Adrienne you have multiple homes and no disrespect your lifestyle was UPGRADED not to say you were not good before but come on now!!
Jeannie gathered Adrienne lol and I completely agree with her. Cause I was thinking the exact same thing when ade was talking about being broke lol. Loni has me dying with that loud drinking lmaooooo
As someone who met their spouse at a very young age, i was 18 and he was 21, we definitely married for love. However. We struggled financially together for years. It put so much strain on our marriage. We put each other through college and our early years were tough. Not like we are rich but we definitely doing well and now can enjoy ourselves in our marriage bc we are both established in our careers. So i agree with ade and Jeannie. We were young and i didnt expect him to have a whole lot of money or be established. However, if i were to be looking for a spouse now at the age of 34, yeah he better be financially stable bc i am financially stable. My expectations of my spouse is a lot different at my age than it was when i was just 18 yo.
Yes age and position in life makes a difference. For most regular non celebrity people when you’re young nobody has much so you build together. I was younger than my husband and doing a longer degree so he supported me through that. But If I were to be getting married again now I wouldn’t consider anyone who pooling resources with would not significantly improve my quality of life.
@@jalondradavis2473 big facts!!!!
That side eyeeeeeeee… ADE WHY you mad!! Jeannie is telling the truth!!
Adrienne imagine Israel not being rich, even though you have money he can't help you in any way financially. All the bills fall on you, you can't live in those multiple properties anymore because you have to have to pay them alone, while also supporting him and his other kids because he also owes child support that takes most of his check, he's in a lot of debt ect. How will that affect your marriage? And this is just him making maybe 100k a year. Not him being broke but as a multimillionaire you are going to have to meet him in the middle if you want him to be able to afford anything or just support him financially forever. No more elaborate getaways and trips ect and expensive presents. Your picking up every check at every restaurant and paying for every trip. Who would want that?
Right like Jeannie Mai said. She can't relate, because her husband is Rich and so is she. She is so out of touch.
Great analogy
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Add this, if Israel was broke and have to pay child support to All of his Kids and A had to pay it, let me see how happy she would be. I dislike when people speak on something they are not being 100 percent. A marry for love but what lead to that Love was Israel spoiling Her with vacations and fancy gifts. Please do not pretend like him having money was not a plus.
@@helenlevy5952 exactly. Women want to be spoiled but to be spoiled you need money. If her husband did not have the money to support his other kids which I'm sure is hundreds of thousands a year he is paying in alimony, child support, private school ect. they would not be together.
Adrienne is very lucky to be with Israel tho. She has two beautiful mansions in NY and Beverly Hills and is able to travel and have all these opportunities bc of israel’s support.
She doesn't live in a mansion in Beverly Hills🤣 It's just a villa style home
Adrienne way too in her feelings on this one lol her face she made damn she was getting so annoyed. She can’t take it personal Jeannie was just making a point for sake of devils advocate and conversation.
Chill....she was annoyed at Loni sipping her drink not Jeannie.
@@fashionwithoutlabels I think it was both that annoyed her, but it seemed like she was extra annoyed with Loni because she was affected by what Jeannie said. Mentally placing myself into that mindset allows me to see that the sipping would become unbearable, because I have been triggered and found surrounding sounds unbearable. Kudos to Adrienne though for working her way out of that triggering moment.
@@jayjanzee9059 💯 agree. Love these ladies and how they really do keep it real
@@jayjanzee9059 yes she snapped at Loni because she was upset by that comment, but knew she couldn't go off on Jeannie without looking petty.
“Stop slurping”🤣🤣🤣 I was wondering if I was hearing things at first
I think Jeannie's point was would Adrienne have married Israel if he didn't have money. Not saying she is using him for money but she probably wouldn't marry someone who was poor. So it takes more than love to carry a marriage.
Exactly & I absolutely agreed with Jeannie.
I don't like when rich women like Adrienne claim to only care about love. It's easy to say when you make big bucks like Adrienne. She'll always be okay. The average woman, making a normal living can't say the same. Women lose economic potential when they get married and have children, they need to be dependent on a wealthier partner. Also, if you're someone who's is financially stable marrying a person who isn't would be a burden and you probably wouldn't do that. I don't Adrienne would. She loves the fact that Israel doesn't need her money.
Adrienne’s point was that she personally would not marry just for money. She never said it was completely unnecessary to consider it.
@@mimia.4810 she would NEVER have married a waiter. Women do not marry down, we naturally are attracted to men who are above us. She would not have married a waiter.
@@ineedya123 Exactly! If Israel was making minimum wage at McDonald's she'd wouldn't even want him. I'd wish people would just be honest. Money matters in a relationship, especially for women.
Welcome back Jeannie, we need your sassy attitude!! ❤️
Lmaooooo Adrienne’s face she felt called out and then Jeanie back stepped
I love that this was a REAL conversation and even though Jeannie disagree and Adrienne got annoyed. Adrienne snapped out of it and kept with the conversation. Love the rawness of this convo. Keep it coming ladies 👏🏼💕 Jeannie we needed you back lol
Yup..Jeannie was being 100% real..on The Real! ❤
I agree with Jeannie. And it's not just for financial reasons. There's multiple layers at play.
For instance, the man she's attracted to probably wouldn't be the same person if he were broke and struggling.
His confidence wouldn't be the same. After struggling for so long, all hope and motivation may go away.
Now, think of all the negative personality traits that commonly come with being insecure and hopeless.
Then, consider the fact you're likely to become what you surround yourself with.
Jeannie for the win here!!! Love isnt enough for a marriage to work and thats a fact.
Marry for money point blank period. People fall in and out of love. Love don’t mean a damn thing if he leaves your ass for another woman . With money at least you will get paid in the event of a divorce/child support. Don’t judge me speaking for experience.
This idea that men leave women is false. Most break ups are initiated by women and 80% of divorces are initiated by women. So stop projecting.
I was w my ex for many years and I was the only one working paying everything LOVE is not enough & def does not pay the bills. I’ll nvr allow that to happen again
Flip the script and you found a man that paid all the bills and you stayed home. I think he’d be fine with it. This is why men and women are different.
@@annatar6453 hey what does that have to do with her comment? Just trying to understand your point here. That’s all :)
@@annatar6453 but I was doing both the womens and man’s role while he just sat around so he didn’t do anything. And if the script was flipped I’d do my part as a woman so he wouldn’t have to, and if the man I was with is fine w that, that’s fine because I know many men that take pride in taking care of their home & wouldn’t let their women do much much financially.
I get Adrienne but Jeannie is being practical. She’s a very deep and smart person.
Garcelle is is right and Jennie give her thoughts is also right. It’s easy for Adrienne to say that because she’s not in that predicament.
Adrienne felt offended when Jeannie said what she said to her because she's living in a "bubble"....Sometimes Adrienne is not practical and realistic. Jeannie hit this topic SPOT ON. Love fades when money does, "why" because the lack of finances in a relationship can cause serious problems and tension with the relationship, so do not get married if yall know that the finances aren't up to par.
Jeannie and Garcelle are on other level with their honest!! Really glad Jeannie is back!!
Marrying for love is a relatively new prospect…I’m talking the last 40-50 years! Up until the 1960s, you married for stability, finances, family planning, societal pressures, religious reasons, family expectations, etc
Jeanie called Adrian out on her B.S. in a classy way. 😂🤣
I am with Jeannie, it's easier to say marry for love if you are already comfortable and most girls that say that be married to rich guys. Poverty hurts, me if I am well off I can feel comfortable marrying a broke ambitious dude, if I am poor and you are poor it is not going to be possible.
My husband is financially smart, responsible, and disciplined. I can count on him as much as I can count on myself. At the beginning of our relationship he asked me to help him clean up his credit and the fact that he was that concerned showed me how responsible he wanted to be. I learned from my mom how to build a credit background. These are important traits to have for marriage. We saved money for our first Apt. Rental and now we are saving for our house. And we love each other very much for those wondering lol.
I think any marriage should be a partnership, have those important conversations , compromise. financial stability is Important but have your own life first before you become someone else wife /husband
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I agree totally. Have your own life and career/ job first. Marriage is different for everyone, it depends on the two of you. But financial stability is a must to help marriages to last. 🙏🙏❤❤
Lol Garcelle’s face is everything! Lol Her facial expressions are hilarious to me. 😂
Adrienne’s face , I can only imagine what she was thinking in her head lol. But I totally agree with Jeannie. She didn’t marry someone who is struggling financially. And maybe she does feel like, if he was broke that she would still love him…but honestly I don’t see that for her. And I’m not saying , she married for that - no but I think maybe if she was younger and if they got newly married then maybe she could probably go through with that. But now, where she is financially stable..I can’t really see her being okay with just loving someone and them having no money at all or financially stable. I know for me, I’m only 26 and seeing my mom in my early adult hood, even now struggling financially - I promised myself that I would land a good paying job and be financially stable and marry someone who is also financially stable & that I love of course.
You are destined for greatness! I love people such as yourself who want better for themselves.
@@omphilemoerane2569 thank you! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Loni with the drink 🤣🤣
I like the new Loni she’s way more chill and happier/nicer than she used to be lol
Thank you Jeannie ! Speak for the people
I agree with Garcelle and Jeannie. Marriage is not a fairytale and love and all that Disney blabla. There is more to it and it’s important to talk about the financial expectations before taking that route. Not only that, you have to talk about having children or not, religion or not, lifestyle and all other aspect. Love alone will not sustain a marriage, that’s why there is so much divorce nowadays
I’m sorry Adrienne but love isn’t enough in a marriage. If you are struggling you will see a whole other side of the person. And it’s easy to say I would rather be in love and broke, when u both a financially stable
Loni and the slurping sounds with the facial expressions are sending me😂😂
I love my husband but I wouldn’t have married him if he wasn’t financially intelligent. He’s not rich but I know he wouldn’t let us go hungry/broke. Most of the men I dated didn’t make as much as me, one was even jobless and I thought I was in love with him so I paid for everythingggg for 2 whole years just for him to break up w me on speakerphone w his boys listening. Uh uh, I’m over that struggle love & wanna be taken care of! I don’t feel any shame ab it 😌 Also, it speaks volumes for a man’s character when he has the desire to provide for his woman❣️
Being financially independent is one thing, but you can get dragged down by someone who isn't on your level financially. Finances should be considered, love alone is not enough.
Until you guys go 50/50 🙄
@@garygreen7104 I don't believe in 50/50. I like a traditional masculine man, with a provider mindset, besides am African, most men in Africa do their traditional roles.
@@sbusisiweshaba1715 lol they do?😂
@@omphilemoerane2569 Do you need to ask when I already stated it? This is my experience, not yours. I have seen alot of African men, who are providers, it ain't my fault, if you can't relate.
@@sbusisiweshaba1715 ohk sorry that I upset you🙁
Loni gets sloppy when tipsy. She is too grown for that. As for Adrienne, she needs to talk less and listen more. Welcome back Jeannie!!!
She did listen lol, she’s just explaining her point of view deeper. Maybe you should listen more…
I mean really Adrienne 😂😂
Jeannie was like holll up hollll up.
Adrienne u sound out of touch with reality for other woman.
Yep
In this day in age its hard to fall in love when there is no money, money is the driving force behind everything. Even while still dating or in courtship.
Without money the man can't take you out to dates, from where I'm from he can't even call you or text you, he can't visit you( travelling needs money especially if you stay far from each other)..the list is endless.
Women fall in love when they feel taken care of, how are you gonna take care of me when you don't have money? I wish Adrienne knew this. If in their relationship it was always her paying for things, she was never going to fall in love. Money is a necessity for love to develop.
Lonnie sipping her drink when Jeannie spoke !!!
Adrienne really said "I disagree specifically in my case" like girl even if you are not dependent on him it’s the fact that you would have not married Israel or paid him any time of the day if he were homeless and owed money on child support, & that is okay. If I am financially stable my prospective partner better be stable too, it works both ways, so if I’m not financially stable I wouldn’t be dating in the first place my priorities will be else where.
I fully agree with you 👏👏💯💯
Agree with Jeannie! Love is not enough for a marriage!!
This needs a part 2
Ok I agree with Jeannie on this
I married for Love....and it was a struggle, financial.. stood by his side trying to encourage him build him up all while I was drowning.... After 10 years it was enough for me, only for him to say being a husband a provider was too much for him.
So sorry about this. You stayed with him all this time and after all that he had the nerve to say “it’s too much for him”
@@takemypainaway9517 yes!!! That's how I feel Take my pain away😔
@@shylincoleporter8347 I’m so sorry. Some men are just so selfish and trash. I hope you find someone better. You didn’t lose anything. Good riddance!
Thank You 💕
I might have 1 marriage in me for this lifetime. If it doesn’t work out then that’s it lol.
I think Adrienne is coming from a different perspective because she was taught to be good on her own. So it doesn’t matter to her what her love interest is making financially. Not enough to stop her from loving them.
People are trying to say she's lying because the people that she dates also has money but they need to remember when you're in the entertainment business these are the people you come in contact with and usually these are the people you end up dating. A consequence of being in the entertainment business is also having money and that's in her favor good for her. I am a man so some people are going to say it is different for men. But I know I have the same Spirit of Adrian. As long as the person I'm with is morally responsible and is not lazy I will spend my last dime to make sure that they're happy and taken care of
I agree 👏👏👏💯💯💯
_FINALLY!!!_ A comment making sense instead of unnecessarily attacking Adrienne Bailon-Houghton... 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾💯 What has she done to some of y’all in the comments for you guys to unfairly demean her like this, SMH... 🤦🏽♀️😓
@@GoodOlAllisonHarvard imo, nobody degraded Adrienne. Just that a lot of people agreed with Jeannie more than they agreed with what Adrienne said or her point of view. That’s okay i think. People have been respectful in the comments. It’s obvious they love both Jeannie and Adrienne. However, as humans people have different views and perspectives of things in life. Audiences will agree and comment to something they find relatable.
Adrienne face when Jeannie made that comment 😂
I totally agree with Jeannie and garcelle , Adrienne doesn’t like it when someone disagrees with her, she’s very closed minded and she’s not able to put herself in other people’s shoes, the faces she was making were unnecessary and childish. Plus @4:46 even though she is financially independent I don’t believe in some ways she doesn’t rely on her husband financially.
As I stated before, Jeanni is talking about herself and Jeezy. The money helped her fall for Jeezy plain and simple her white first husband didn't have the money, fame that Jeezy has. Adrienne married her husband for his financial stability, she also dated Rob Kardashian along with others, so I would consider her a gold digger and too naive to know it. When she mentioned one time she was amazed by the ring Israel gave her said a great deal about her plus she grew up very poor which also contributed to her decision when it came to him. Her facial expression today, when Jeanni was talking confirmed it. If you don't marry someone who can provide you're a fool and will have hard times going forward. He doesn't have to be rich but, he has to be financially secure in some way, she should contribute too even if it's her money, education, or it will not work out. No smart woman would marry a poor man the second time as the song goes what's love got to do with it. To be real, no smart woman would marry an unstable man the first time either. Loni is slurping because she knows Jeanni and Adrienne married those two black men for money, love was secondary. Now that's Real.
Ouch ouch ouch 😬👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Yes! Yes! Yes! And yes! Keep ‘em coming 👌
I think Loni was slurping because she sensed a little tension 😂
I don't know why she did it but it was uncalled for and then afterwards she shift gear. She took it from a very serious conversation and turned it into gossiping about her friend
Jenie kept it 100% real!
LOLOL I love that jeannie called Adrienne out. I was thinking the exact same thing! So easy to say all that when you married someone with money and you got 2 houses that you always posting about
Garcelle spoke for all of us actually...
Jeanie Needed to Be Back For This Type of Level Headedness💯
Keep this show on air ‼️‼️‼️
Oh my goodness. The more I watch The Real, the more I agree with Garcielle and her views. When they ask questions, I have my answer and 99% of the time, it is exactly what Garcielle says....sometimes "word for word." Maybe it's that Caribbean water. Keep those comments coming, girl. I love the vibe.
I bet you are from Jamaica. I am as well, and I always agree with Garcelle
@It's Mackenzie's World actually, I'm from Belize.
I'm so glad JEANNIE said WHAT SHE SAID! ADRIENNE needs to realize that ANYBODY CAN change their MIND about being in LOVE WITH YOU. LOVE is not always GURANTEED to LAST FOREVER. I always say "LET'S ENJOY each other as long as FATE want us TO". 👀
Love is not always guaranteed but financial stability is not guaranteed either
Brokeness is usually just a symptom irresponsibility.
EXACTLY! It’s a character flaw, point blank. Especially the older they get. Why are they not stable? What were they doing with their time?? Brokenness, especially in a man, begs a lot of questions. This world gives men all the tools to succeed, what’s the excuse? Especially if I, as a woman, can be financially stable. Women who don’t take a man’s finances into consideration before getting involved with them are either foolish, less than smart, or all of the above lol.
Adrienne would never have married her older husband with children and children outside of his marriage with two different women, if he weren't WEALTHY. She would look down on him. his wealth has opened up another lifestyle for her.
Adrienne would never be broke in love with someone. Look at her nails, her hair, her clothes. it takes money to look like that. she would never give that up
Munchkin always has to be right 😓... Jeannie balanced the truth💯
So happy to see Jeannie back.....hoping she’s recovered baby girl is good & daddy is well too
Lol im glad jeannie said it. What Adrienne said is nice but youre not married to a broke man neither would you. You just dont wanna admit it.
The way Jeannie ended Andrienne….She went speechless for secs there.
Jeannie was like, "easy for you to say, A. You got money and married money." lol Loni's right. A has the privilege to marry for love. Unfortunately for many that isn't always the case.
There was a time when a woman wasn't able open a bank account, get a job, start a business etc, unless she was married to a man or if her father approved. So I'd totally understand someone getting married for economic opportunities.
There should be financial stability, but there needs to be something else there as far as the love that you have for the other person (& why you wanna be with them). If you're not in love with the other person's personality, intelligence, etc., you're using them.
As a divorced woman I completely agree with Jeannie.
Not all of us are lucky enough to find both love and financial stability the first time around.
Weve had this topic before and Jeanie and Ade were on the same ‘he can be broke but have ambition’ page. I think Tam was like ‘if you have the character i think you do, you wouldnt be broke’
I think J changed her mind because of her husband. Also to Ade, considering money is not just about you relying on the other person. It is also making sure people arent digging off you. Hes less likely to do so if he has his own.
G is right. After that love rollercoaster, you are done with struggle love
So you explain to me now how Jeezy is going to react to find out that Genie married him for his money because Genie agree with garcelle who said you should marry for money the second time around and this is Jeannie s second time around
I am 100% team Adrian because it wouldn't matter to me if they were broke because I would spend my last dime on someone I knew definitely love me. And we need to stop using the word love as if it is devoid of reason or it is irrational and not practical
@@2sense110 Im not sure that you meant to reply to me because your reply has nothing to do with what I said. If there is a specific part of my comment you would like to address, please point to it.
Also, no one said to marry just for money. You either misunderstood what G and J said or are trying to distort it.
I appreciate what you are willing to do. I have lived my life that way and am learning to be more wary. People take advantage of givers and some people are very good at painting false images of themselves. The best would be to not come across such people but also not feel overconfident about ones ability to weed out such people to avoid stories that touch.
Lastly, there is nothing in my commentary that says that love should be irrational.
THE GIRLSSS ARE FIGHTING. JEANNIE TRIED ADRIENNE. LMAOO ADRIENNES FACEEEE
Hilarious
This was some honesty for that a**. Lol I agree with Garcelle, you learn from your first marriage if it ends. I’ve even heard people say the first marriage is just for practice but the second is the real one. Idk I’m still in my first but I get what they’re saying. I think for Ade no one is saying that you don’t love the person because you absolutely can but you will not marry JUST for love anymore.
Lmaooo damn jeannie ate her up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ade was mad salty like you ain’t have to put me on the spot like that
Jeannie responded like she was commenting in a RUclips comment section, not TV😂 She was like girl BYE!!😂😂
I really enjoy watching Loni tell a story while she drinks her liquor,it is so funny.😂😂