What a guide! I've learned today. I'll definitely look at your other guides. Love to see it man! Hunter S+++. You deserve way more than 902 subscribers! Keep up the good work!
exactly the video i was looking for before wotlk classic launch. so many other wotlk hunter guides are obvious content farms made by creators who clearly don't play the class. the macros were especially helpful, thanks.
Awesome vid brother!!… can’t wait to get my hunter to 80, again.. been away for 12yrs, just got a pc again.. so I thought I’d start back with wotlk, when I 1st started playing
Hey thanks Proclix - I just came out with my shaman one today! I plan on doing them all but they take a while to make. Mage should be in one of my next 3 guides, but priest will probably be a little after that!
Awesome video! Exactly what i needed but couldnt find until now! I think alot of new player’s even retailers would be intimidated by playing hunter pvp in wotlk. So many keybinds on top of pet control/micro management. What a skill ceiling man, and so much you can improve by playing tons. Sure seems very fun if ur dedicated. Basically very easy to tell the difference vs a good player and a decent haha
Yes definitely. And after playing against some of the best hunters out there it makes me feel like I'm bad at hunter lol. Just a ton of depth to a very-well designed class/spec. I might play one this time around in Wrath too but I have to be all-in since I'll want to do really well + get BiS geared. There is a reason homerjay is always at the top when it comes to wotlk hunters
Hahah nice. It sometimes confuses people into thinking an sfiend was actually popped. It's always funny to see someone pop a big defensive cooldown because they're under a lot of pressure and think the priest is going offensive too
Love the guide been playing hunter for a very very long time the biggest thing I think you missed was intervene will actually soak dots as long as you don't take a direct hit
Very good guide for new hunters. Played hunter for many many years and it’s a very challenging pvp class with many many bindings, but fun nonetheless. Good work!
Hey BalancedBear, I like pretty much every single class and a lot of the specs but my favorite classes in pvp would probably be something like: Shaman, Pally, DK, Warrior (or at least in wrath). Thanks for watching!
It's a try hard spec. MM is just absolutely godly and the only time you shouldn't be marksman is if your playing beast cleave and then you should be BM. Hunters are still good and they can make survival work but it's definitely inferior.
Priest is one of my least played classes so I will have to get a friends account to rent for a few days or something haha. But I plan on doing all classes
IceHud - it is one of my favorite addons that I don't see many others use. I go over some important addons in this video: ruclips.net/video/PscnlMVWh14/видео.html
Almost never - only when you've used most of your other abilities(chimera, arcane, aimed) OR when you're trying to set up a little burst window with a steady shot into aimed then chimera. Or if you don't have change positions and are fine to just snipe away with steady shot
Hey! Like ur guides, ur doing awesome videos ☺️. Could u please give an advice, what to stack as a destro warlock playing 2v2 ladder with resto Druid on a private server season 6-7 arena wotlk (232-245 ilvl): spellhaste, or crit chance? Thank you!
Hey Flash! Glad you enjoy them, Definitely stack haste - as much as you can. Some pve peices can even be used to get more haste like taking off 1/5th of your pvp set which is statted for crit resil and swap it with crit haste like chest or legs.
I've never seen anyone use the Nether Ray personally so to that I'm unsure. The spider just feels like a worse crab. But feel free to mess around with them.
The server is based in europe and I live in the US. So I'm competing against europeans, germans, people in the US. For the most part all having a huge ping advantage over me - I play at about ~150. Also, the people who are such diehard players that they don't care to play retail wow or retail BC/classic so they know WOTLK inside and out. I can't wait to be off it finally and playing the real thing on 25-40~ ping.
Thank you very much for your Videos ! I want to become Gladiator in wotlk classic and i thinking about HolyPal or Ele but ele sucks in Pve and i want to raid too and holy is not my playstyle in BGs so i think about playing hunter cause it´s good in pve (may not top3 but still great) and it´s king in BG´s when i´m full Arena/Raid Gear :) hope it´s not too hard for me to learn and reach glad :D
Yeah I mean all are great choices! The hardest skill wise + gearing would be the hunter however. But nonetheless all 3 are very powerful and have great 2s/3s comps besides the ele not having a ton of 2s options. Glad they help!
I don't gem spell pen or enchant it in any of my gear which you can see in the video. Not sure if I said gem spell pen or something but yes it's not needed
@@apexanalysis8348 ruclips.net/video/9sivOzFijMg/видео.html in the first part of the vid you have JC spell pen gems and cloak enchant so I got confused
no BM Information thou, u shoulda called this MM Guide i gonna play BM and wondering if they fixed the pet-scaling in wotlk classic or will we still have only static crit chance on pet, which makes anything but Ferocity pets kinda useless vs Resilience targets.. which leaves the option of core hound (-25% casting) vs devilsour (+9% dmg) vs hyena (passive slow) and i think devilsour is best by far
Well, it was already quite long at 30 minutes and I knew if I added survival and BM it would be 45 minutes +. I think in most cases core hound is absolutely amazing, but obviously useless against some specs/classes. So Devilsaur is just good against everyone which is a nice plus
Great video, great skills as well - luckily for you, you had ages to practice. Rest moved on to the latest WoW. Please don't invest time in this shit guys, after WOTLK nothing new will come as that was the last "best" xpac.
Its extremely disappointing that you need to pve so much in order to pvp like this or to pvp at a high level. basically over half your gear is from pve so you need to do it.
Yup, that is one of the big flaws with wrath imo. I think the pvp is the best out of all expansions but a good chunk of the melee and hunters need tons of pve gear which requires a bit of a commitment.
Could you give me a way to contact you. via mail, or discord. I have a creative ideas to team 3vs3 with 2 diffrent spec hunters(mm, survi). Can i disscus it with you?
thats aspect macros is bullshit, because aspects have their own gcd, and trueshot aura have default global, and when u want to change aspect and use a spell instantly - you cant, because of trueshot aura using, and you will get gcd, not only for aspects but global
It works lol. You can have NO aspect and NO trueshot aura and you hit it puts up BOTH buffs. It might not function that way when live comes but see for yourself log on warmane or some other big private server
@@apexanalysis8348 i am not talking about that, this macros is really works But when you do some pvp stuff, and everytime switch between dragonhawk and mana aspect, and you will press this macros - you start not only aspects gcd, but also default gcd, and you cant for example at the same time change aspect and use killshot, because trueshot aura using with this macros
I think he is trying to say that the fact trueshot aura is in the macro every time you press the macro it will use trueshot aura as well as the chosen aspect, therefore it will global you when you are trying to press other abilities.
What a guide! I've learned today. I'll definitely look at your other guides. Love to see it man! Hunter S+++. You deserve way more than 902 subscribers! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the support Kyle! Just started a little over 2 months ago!! Appreciate the kind words! Soon 1k subs!
exactly the video i was looking for before wotlk classic launch. so many other wotlk hunter guides are obvious content farms made by creators who clearly don't play the class. the macros were especially helpful, thanks.
Great glad they helped!
best all encompasing guide for hunter pvp ive seen ty brother
Appreciate it! Glad it helped, pally next:)
information packed video. thats pure gold! thanks Apex!
Awesome glad it helped Don!
Awesome vid brother!!… can’t wait to get my hunter to 80, again.. been away for 12yrs, just got a pc again.. so I thought I’d start back with wotlk, when I 1st started playing
this channel is a true gem for wotlk pvp. we need this for every class, but please mage & spri first :D
Hey thanks Proclix - I just came out with my shaman one today! I plan on doing them all but they take a while to make. Mage should be in one of my next 3 guides, but priest will probably be a little after that!
Ty for the warning about hunter being hard, but now i already comited lots of time with my max hunter xD
Loving these guides! I would also love one for Ele and Enhance Shaman whenever you get time
Glad it helped! I will be doing an elemental one sometime soon™ And maybe an enhance a bit later on
Awesome video! Exactly what i needed but couldnt find until now! I think alot of new player’s even retailers would be intimidated by playing hunter pvp in wotlk. So many keybinds on top of pet control/micro management. What a skill ceiling man, and so much you can improve by playing tons. Sure seems very fun if ur dedicated. Basically very easy to tell the difference vs a good player and a decent haha
Yes definitely. And after playing against some of the best hunters out there it makes me feel like I'm bad at hunter lol. Just a ton of depth to a very-well designed class/spec. I might play one this time around in Wrath too but I have to be all-in since I'll want to do really well + get BiS geared. There is a reason homerjay is always at the top when it comes to wotlk hunters
The crab name... seen what you've done there. Ngl I'm copying it. 🤪
Hahah nice. It sometimes confuses people into thinking an sfiend was actually popped. It's always funny to see someone pop a big defensive cooldown because they're under a lot of pressure and think the priest is going offensive too
Love the guide been playing hunter for a very very long time the biggest thing I think you missed was intervene will actually soak dots as long as you don't take a direct hit
Oh? Are you saying if you pet intervene without getting hit it will take the dots itself or take the dot damage off yourself?
Very good guide for new hunters. Played hunter for many many years and it’s a very challenging pvp class with many many bindings, but fun nonetheless. Good work!
Yes exactly. Thanks Stony! Hunters are without a doubt one of the most fun specs in all of Wrath imo.
Yeah hunters are extremely fun compared to other classes. Easy to play hard to master. Hunters have got to have a high skill so to be successful.
Nice review mate
awesome video, looking forward to play hunter on fresh
We need these for every class!
Every class is my goal but they take a ton of effort to make. I am working on ele shaman next and it should be out soon™
Perfect timing!
Never clicke so fast in my life on a video!
Hey BalancedBear, I like pretty much every single class and a lot of the specs but my favorite classes in pvp would probably be something like: Shaman, Pally, DK, Warrior (or at least in wrath). Thanks for watching!
Any thoughts about survival? See so many videos of pvp hunters playing surv
It's a try hard spec. MM is just absolutely godly and the only time you shouldn't be marksman is if your playing beast cleave and then you should be BM. Hunters are still good and they can make survival work but it's definitely inferior.
It is indeed great quality content, loved the vid from begin to end!
Thanks for letting me know you watched the whole thing. Glad it helped, it took a while to make!
Priest next?
Priest is one of my least played classes so I will have to get a friends account to rent for a few days or something haha. But I plan on doing all classes
Oooo hope we get a lock vid
I plan on doing all classes at some point but lock is probably going to be in the last 5
Hi) And what about magic penetra 75 points? Its necesary or not?
great vid but didnt trueshot aura trigger ur global? xD
What is the health bar and mana bar hud? Very cool.
IceHud - it is one of my favorite addons that I don't see many others use. I go over some important addons in this video: ruclips.net/video/PscnlMVWh14/видео.html
Do hunters need spell pen in pvp?
on gems i saw a spell pen gem in the pants do we want 130 spell pen? or do we not really care about it
god damn it i didn't realize how much uhave to pve to be optimal
Yeah hunters have it really rough in particular - which is the only reason I might not alt a hunter
good info! subbed
Needle is from Malygus 10m
Yes, you are correct. Even easier to get!
I went goat, how bad did I fuck up?
Ahh okay, I'll start working on a goat talent video since there are quite a few options and flex points!
what about spell pen for landing freeze traps?
I'm a little lost when it comes to spell pen, I can see that you have one jewel crafter gem in your pant for S5 but how much must we reach exactly?
How much spell penetration do we need? I tought they changed the traps to physical
What server is this?
Please same vid for Feral!
Can you still pet charge to stop a warrior mid charge in wotlk?
Yeah as well as fear if you can get that timing
What about spider vs crab in pvp? Lots of guides say spider
I think crab is better, but spider is certainly an option too
Hey, when do use steady shot??
Almost never - only when you've used most of your other abilities(chimera, arcane, aimed) OR when you're trying to set up a little burst window with a steady shot into aimed then chimera. Or if you don't have change positions and are fine to just snipe away with steady shot
W8, will we get transmog in wotlk?
I hope so! I don't see why not especially with their new #somechanges mentality
sick video man!
Which UI is that?
Hey! Like ur guides, ur doing awesome videos ☺️. Could u please give an advice, what to stack as a destro warlock playing 2v2 ladder with resto Druid on a private server season 6-7 arena wotlk (232-245 ilvl): spellhaste, or crit chance? Thank you!
Hey Flash! Glad you enjoy them, Definitely stack haste - as much as you can. Some pve peices can even be used to get more haste like taking off 1/5th of your pvp set which is statted for crit resil and swap it with crit haste like chest or legs.
Thoughts on interrupt pets like Nether Ray and also Spider instead of Crab for the ranged root?
I've never seen anyone use the Nether Ray personally so to that I'm unsure. The spider just feels like a worse crab. But feel free to mess around with them.
@@apexanalysis8348 Thanks. Keep up the vids 👍
Np and will do! :)
Question is you got all these titles are these on a private wrath server who are you competing against?
The server is based in europe and I live in the US. So I'm competing against europeans, germans, people in the US. For the most part all having a huge ping advantage over me - I play at about ~150. Also, the people who are such diehard players that they don't care to play retail wow or retail BC/classic so they know WOTLK inside and out. I can't wait to be off it finally and playing the real thing on 25-40~ ping.
Thank you very much for your Videos ! I want to become Gladiator in wotlk classic and i thinking about HolyPal or Ele but ele sucks in Pve and i want to raid too and holy is not my playstyle in BGs so i think about playing hunter cause it´s good in pve (may not top3 but still great) and it´s king in BG´s when i´m full Arena/Raid Gear :) hope it´s not too hard for me to learn and reach glad :D
Yeah I mean all are great choices! The hardest skill wise + gearing would be the hunter however. But nonetheless all 3 are very powerful and have great 2s/3s comps besides the ele not having a ton of 2s options. Glad they help!
@@apexanalysis8348 I decided to play Ele in pvp cause it´s also cool in BGs with Gear and i play Spellhancer in Raids so i also get PVE gear for it :)
If i wanted to play BM the early seasons, should i strive for an exotic pet or is Crab/ravager just as good?
im pretty sure exotics are the way to go
Please do mage :)
I have the thumbnail made :) But I still need to get a bunch of footage so it's soon™
If Hunter is one of the hardest, what do you think is the easiest for PVP of course 👍 otherwise great video 💪
The font is so small. Cannot really see the macro . Would you please move to the description?
Which one(s) do you need? I'll put some in the descrip
@@apexanalysis8348 opener, burst, misdirection, melee attack and ranged rotation
@@apexanalysis8348 thank you so much. Saw that posted. 🤗
You only need spell penetration as Survival, why are you gemming it for MM?
I don't gem spell pen or enchant it in any of my gear which you can see in the video. Not sure if I said gem spell pen or something but yes it's not needed
@@apexanalysis8348 ruclips.net/video/9sivOzFijMg/видео.html in the first part of the vid you have JC spell pen gems and cloak enchant so I got confused
no BM Information thou, u shoulda called this MM Guide
i gonna play BM and wondering if they fixed the pet-scaling in wotlk classic or will we still have only static crit chance on pet, which makes anything but Ferocity pets kinda useless vs Resilience targets.. which leaves the option of core hound (-25% casting) vs devilsour (+9% dmg) vs hyena (passive slow) and i think devilsour is best by far
Well, it was already quite long at 30 minutes and I knew if I added survival and BM it would be 45 minutes +. I think in most cases core hound is absolutely amazing, but obviously useless against some specs/classes. So Devilsaur is just good against everyone which is a nice plus
I love you
Compressorx getting farmed in these clips 😂😂
Hahaha nice observation, it doesn't help that he would be toxic to me/teammates in solo queues... Just makes you wanna throw clips of him in xD
Great video, great skills as well - luckily for you, you had ages to practice. Rest moved on to the latest WoW.
Please don't invest time in this shit guys, after WOTLK nothing new will come as that was the last "best" xpac.
To much resilence 1.2 k
Its extremely disappointing that you need to pve so much in order to pvp like this or to pvp at a high level. basically over half your gear is from pve so you need to do it.
Yup, that is one of the big flaws with wrath imo. I think the pvp is the best out of all expansions but a good chunk of the melee and hunters need tons of pve gear which requires a bit of a commitment.
Could you give me a way to contact you. via mail, or discord. I have a creative ideas to team 3vs3 with 2 diffrent spec hunters(mm, survi). Can i disscus it with you?
thats aspect macros is bullshit, because aspects have their own gcd, and trueshot aura have default global, and when u want to change aspect and use a spell instantly - you cant, because of trueshot aura using, and you will get gcd, not only for aspects but global
It works lol. You can have NO aspect and NO trueshot aura and you hit it puts up BOTH buffs. It might not function that way when live comes but see for yourself log on warmane or some other big private server
@@apexanalysis8348 i am not talking about that, this macros is really works
But when you do some pvp stuff, and everytime switch between dragonhawk and mana aspect, and you will press this macros - you start not only aspects gcd, but also default gcd, and you cant for example at the same time change aspect and use killshot, because trueshot aura using with this macros
I think he is trying to say that the fact trueshot aura is in the macro every time you press the macro it will use trueshot aura as well as the chosen aspect, therefore it will global you when you are trying to press other abilities.
But I’m sure that’s now how the macro works lol