Hey, great guide! Maybe one thing to add is: /cast [@player] Misdirection /cancelaura Misdirection (or [@party1], etc…) The “Misdirection” buff lasts for 30sec, but is useless in PVP. The “Interlope” buff lasts 10 sec and this is what redirects 3 spells to the pet. However, even if the 3 charges of Interlope are spent in a second, you’ll still have the “Misdirection” buff for 30 seconds as it is separate from the Interlope buff, and the cooldown of the ability will not start recharging until these 30 sec are gone and the Misdirection buff is over. So press this macro twice, it uses 1GCD only, the second press removes the useless Misdirection PVE aura that blocks the ability from recharging fast. With the macro: The CD of Interlope is 45 sec Without the macro: The CD of Interlope is 1min 15 sec (unless you manually remove the 30 sec misdirection buff)
That's actually pretty nuts man, good job figuring that out - the way buffs and cool downs usually work, I'm surprised it doesn't reset once the ability is used.
I just want to say a HUGE thank you for your work, you do it sincerely, competently, calmly! You are the best and good person, all the best to you, respect and bow!
So good... Thank you so much for this. SV hunter really weirdly became my FAV thing to play this expac,, in all content, it just feels so goddamned good. This is the best guide ive seen on the internet, well done.
Great job! One of the best I've come across in all classes. In depth AF, but no fat. All good knowledge and ya even made me chuckle quite a few times. Thank ya.
hey im new and iwanna tell you you are the BEST wow guide content creator out there. NONE i repeat NONE does guides like these here. everyone always says "just watch the stream"
"It doesn't have to always be scripted as well." No my guy, for YOU it doesn't have to be scripted. For my 1600 butt, it does. Thanks very much for providing the script :)
Hey Bicmex, great video. It is very informative. Very cool Some content ideas I would like to see are: -Solo Shuffle, 2v2 and 3v3 commentaries. Wins and losses would be good to learn from. -Comp matchup strategies and scripts, would be nice to see as well. You're very good at explaining things in wow pvp. I'd like to hear your thoughts in 2s/3s matches as and vs a varierty of comps. Example: playing as hunter+feral/rogue/ret vs mage rogue or healer dps. What are the scripts for the matchup? What is the win condition? Also, adjustments you make when things don't go as planned. A personal pick for me would be comp strategies in 2v2 as Ret/Survival and Cupid Cleave in 3s. I love the content. I'm looking forward to more.
Thanks again for the guide. I'll soon try SV out once more. Really had a blast learning it the first time. Just wanted to comment as you rambled around about the pvp talents. You make so many suggestions on talents and whats good situational or not and did not bring up Trackers Net. Ofc im not as high rated as you but i've had a few MM hunters who i've instantly trapped when they came out of camo, wondering where their dmg went. Even got a PM once and he was humbly asking why he missed haha, such a funny memory
Hey Bicmex great guide! Been following your stuff ever since SL and it‘s always been giga helpful. Question: How do you deal with melee cleaves in Blade‘s Edge? I feel like on any other map I can kite them out and it‘s usually an „easy“ win, however playing on the bridge in Blade‘s Edge I can‘t really do that. Any suggestions?
on blades edge i just give up, that map is the absolute worst - since the only way you can kite is to drag people on top of your own healer. I've started going knock trap instead of intimidation and just standing in the middle to try and knock them off and secure a win that way (only in shuffle, don't do this in 2s/3s thanks)
Very important question : how do you switch from the target to the healer ? Do you use specific macro that by default focus the healer (which i do) and i have an other mouse bind to do the normal spell but this part is a bit less pratical if you have to be in motion (using also the mouse) while casting despite it works fine. For exemple i have this for Harpon and Assault and every control. The thing is that you can only use them on the healer or you have to have to different binds for each spell ! :/ Maybe you use the mouse to target the right target before each control or cast ? I'm really wondering how you manager your tagets wich i thing is a very important point no one is talking about ! Thanks a lot in advance ! Sure it can make a greate video again ! :)
Bicmex I know I'm late to the party but, if I have 2 wildfire bombs, do I immediately press both? Or do I press it once, then let it tick to full before re-applying?
Ho, thanks you for the update ! You're the best ! I have a question tho, if you press, in that order : Deth chakram, explosive and then Fury of the eagle, does the 4 set bonus (Crit chance and damage) apply to the explosive ? Love you !
If you ever come back to making videos. I wonder if you mind making more vs melee lobbies where they train you. And teach us how to play against it. I know you have a last video on it a year ago.
Incredible video, so so knowledgeable and appreciate the insight. What is the addon/weak aura to show your spells and the damage they do when you're pressing them ?
Great guide. If you were to get in a dev's ear and enable a change for survival hunter, what would it be? I imagine LoS bugfixes and maybe better passive mitigation
hunters doesn't need passive mitigation in my opinion, probably making it so survival tactics also reduces the cooldown of feign death by 10 or 15s would be enough for hunters to be extremely durable - but still prone to dying if the hunter fucks up and then fix the disarm line of sight bug, and coordinated/spearhead not working if you're next to a wall sometimes. also need to fix the ever increasing issue of random pets eating your freezing trap, maybe making it so it always prioritizes players over minions/monsters? i don't mind pets or other players eating traps becuase that at least takes skill
Interesting take, I think all of the above raises the skill ceiling for survival even higher. I think they need better passive mitigation for m+, so I'd stick with that, but FD is definitely a unique ability to build around.
Mainly because haste lowers your global cooldown, meaning you can press your spells off faster. Currently i prefer to have my haste around 33.34 for 1.12 gcd, the lowest i'd recommend currently is 29.87% haste aka 1.15 gcd.
@@Bicmex Ah, I see now! By the way, thanks to you, I was finally able to reach 1800. I know, it's now much, but I started to play last exp, and I could barely get 1400 at that time. And now I escaped "the elo hell". All thanks to your content! Keep it up, man, looking forward to your guides in TWW.
Hey bro, great guide! Just wondering if you have a macro that allows me to cast spells like freedom on myself, party 1 and party 2 using the same button on my action bar. Example would be: Q= freedom on me CTRL+Q= Freedom on party 1 Alt+Q= Freedom on party 2 Is this doable without having to create 3 separate buttons on my action bars?
i just did 1.50 (default global cooldown) / X (where X is the haste% you're looking for) = global cooldown you're looking for. So if you're looking to get 1.20 global cooldown then you'd just type in 1.5/x=1.2 and see that x = 1.25 aka 25% haste
Been waiting for more videos from you forever 😢. Maybe make a video of less skill buttons for surv hunter and still how to get 2.4k ish or like vs 2 melee lobby more examples?
Hello. This may be a dumb question but I’m wondering what your movement keys are or if you use mouse to move ect. I just don’t understand how you have D key bound 😅
Do you really recommend going wrist/boots? I am dusting off my survival hunter and want to make him something so will be taking your advice here though I suspect it won't matter all that much.
@Bicmex What do you think about this burst rotation? Taking Bombardier Talent, Explosive Shot Death Charkram Flanking Strike Furry of the Eagle BOMB BOMB BOMB Coordinated Assault BOMB BOMB Spam Mongoose lemme know what you think ?
i mean you can but it's not that crazy, especially since you'll lose a lot of potential damage since you'll lose the dot damage of some bombs by doing this
i'm 99.99% sure it's for all 3 hunter specs, when they buffed master marksman last time it was also under the MM catagory... even though that buff was for all 3 specs
I just started survival hunter in s3, it's pretty fun. Unfortunately I can only play it when my wife is available to press the other 25 keybinds on my number pad while I use the left side of the keyboard for the other 75 and my mouse for the additional 35.
What do you do for opener if you dont have any of the set pieces? Dinged 70, geared half as mm half as bm. swapped to survival. 100000 damage, 0 clue whats doing the damage, feels like im not doing anything but seeing crazy numbers. bomb is ridiculous
you can if you want, i use to have it baked into my mongoose bite for the longest time - I removed it though cause one time I wanted to pre put my pet on the healer and be ready for a stun trap (since they were behind the pillar), but Instead my pet just walked off tryna taunt a dk pet so when it was time for me to stun -> trap the healer they were already behind the pillar. This made it so the healer could put down an earthen wall as they peaked my pet stun and our go was just over from there💀 i just want to be in 100% control of my pet all the time :D
@@Bicmex Ah, I see. I main BM so probably nice to have that macro baked in because most of my dmg comes from my pet. I can't afford to leave the pet on healer.
This had a ton of good information and was worth sitting through the whole thing. Long winded but charming and informative. Bravo. W guide. And just to add in response to the end of the video [because yes I definitely just watched all 1:40 minutes of this and I learned a ton] it's not arena but it's the only footage I have of my hunter if you want to vod review my corny BG pvp video I made on my sv hunter. Lol it's mostly memes tho. ruclips.net/video/B5FWhbrdhtA/видео.html
You are a blessing to us survival players
All 12 of us thank you Bicmex!
@@papabologna now it's 13
@@grracio2352more like 14 now!
15!
There’s a bakers dozen of us!
Hey, great guide! Maybe one thing to add is:
/cast [@player] Misdirection
/cancelaura Misdirection
(or [@party1], etc…)
The “Misdirection” buff lasts for 30sec, but is useless in PVP. The “Interlope” buff lasts 10 sec and this is what redirects 3 spells to the pet. However, even if the 3 charges of Interlope are spent in a second, you’ll still have the “Misdirection” buff for 30 seconds as it is separate from the Interlope buff, and the cooldown of the ability will not start recharging until these 30 sec are gone and the Misdirection buff is over.
So press this macro twice, it uses 1GCD only, the second press removes the useless Misdirection PVE aura that blocks the ability from recharging fast.
With the macro: The CD of Interlope is 45 sec
Without the macro: The CD of Interlope is 1min 15 sec (unless you manually remove the 30 sec misdirection buff)
actually kinda based
Bruh
God damn bro, nice
That's actually pretty nuts man, good job figuring that out - the way buffs and cool downs usually work, I'm surprised it doesn't reset once the ability is used.
sorry bro but is it useful in pvp ? didn"t understood much
I just want to say a HUGE thank you for your work, you do it sincerely, competently, calmly! You are the best and good person, all the best to you, respect and bow!
So good... Thank you so much for this. SV hunter really weirdly became my FAV thing to play this expac,, in all content, it just feels so goddamned good.
This is the best guide ive seen on the internet, well done.
Another great guide 🙂 watched the previous one 4 times, so love that you made an updated version.
Look forward to these every season! As always - exceptionally informative! 👍👏
I think this is quite possibly the most descriptive and best spec guide I’ve ever watched. Thank you
Thank god you’re making videos again. You make by far the best class guides ever. Thanks bro
Amazing guide! Thank you so much for posting these every expansion! I don't even play Hunter and like to catch up and see what's new.
Thank you bicmex for all the time and energy put into this guide!!!! Thank youuuu
You and Cdew put out the absolute best guides man. Really appreciate the hard work!
And Flark. Flark puts out very very detailed guides.
Great job! One of the best I've come across in all classes. In depth AF, but no fat. All good knowledge and ya even made me chuckle quite a few times. Thank ya.
Great guide once again! Truly the realest SV hunter
most fun spec in the game, thanks for the guide! Been waiting for it!
Most detailed and best PvP Guide ever! Thanks
looking ur guides like its a movie...wie food and a drink...inviting some friends...making myself comfy :V
love you mex
hey im new and iwanna tell you you are the BEST wow guide content creator out there. NONE i repeat NONE does guides like these here. everyone always says "just watch the stream"
appreciate it! :D
Omg almost 2 hrs! Thank u so much for this lvl of effort. Excited to watch it now!😊❤
you alone are a giant upside of rolling a survival hunter in pvp, best guides for the game ♥
"It doesn't have to always be scripted as well." No my guy, for YOU it doesn't have to be scripted. For my 1600 butt, it does. Thanks very much for providing the script :)
New Bicmex Guide?! Christmas came early!!
Hey Bicmex, great video. It is very informative. Very cool
Some content ideas I would like to see are:
-Solo Shuffle, 2v2 and 3v3 commentaries. Wins and losses would be good to learn from.
-Comp matchup strategies and scripts, would be nice to see as well. You're very good at explaining things in wow pvp. I'd like to hear your thoughts in 2s/3s matches as and vs a varierty of comps.
Example: playing as hunter+feral/rogue/ret vs mage rogue or healer dps. What are the scripts for the matchup? What is the win condition? Also, adjustments you make when things don't go as planned.
A personal pick for me would be comp strategies in 2v2 as Ret/Survival and Cupid Cleave in 3s.
I love the content. I'm looking forward to more.
could do some commentaries for some shuffle/2s games for sure!
tack som vanligt mannen sjukt bra guide ! skratta som fan när du spacea bort i rotation xD men skit bra guide som alltid +++
"yeah its me, bicmex, if you dont know, well... i'm the fucking best god who shred the laddeR" lol
Fk yeah, coming back and Bicmex has a new guide up.
You're a treasure man, my biggest privilege has been getting my face kicked in by you ❤
Yea bicmex ive been waiting for this!
I really appreciate these videos. I barely play surv but it's nice to be informed
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Thanks again for the guide. I'll soon try SV out once more. Really had a blast learning it the first time. Just wanted to comment as you rambled around about the pvp talents. You make so many suggestions on talents and whats good situational or not and did not bring up Trackers Net. Ofc im not as high rated as you but i've had a few MM hunters who i've instantly trapped when they came out of camo, wondering where their dmg went. Even got a PM once and he was humbly asking why he missed haha, such a funny memory
Little bit of a wheelchair... cries in Ret
Subbed, great guide man. Please do more!
I came in got answers and the variance is crazy on opener.
Subbed. Watched your game play on snub tournament. Great game play!
Amazing guide! Thank you
Awesome work, thanks for that 👊👊👊
is fury of the eagle worth taking if you don't have the bonus? I'm new and still gearing..
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Hey Bicmex great guide! Been following your stuff ever since SL and it‘s always been giga helpful. Question: How do you deal with melee cleaves in Blade‘s Edge? I feel like on any other map I can kite them out and it‘s usually an „easy“ win, however playing on the bridge in Blade‘s Edge I can‘t really do that. Any suggestions?
on blades edge i just give up, that map is the absolute worst - since the only way you can kite is to drag people on top of your own healer. I've started going knock trap instead of intimidation and just standing in the middle to try and knock them off and secure a win that way (only in shuffle, don't do this in 2s/3s thanks)
Thanks
Very important question : how do you switch from the target to the healer ?
Do you use specific macro that by default focus the healer (which i do) and i have an other mouse bind to do the normal spell but this part is a bit less pratical if you have to be in motion (using also the mouse) while casting despite it works fine. For exemple i have this for Harpon and Assault and every control. The thing is that you can only use them on the healer or you have to have to different binds for each spell ! :/
Maybe you use the mouse to target the right target before each control or cast ?
I'm really wondering how you manager your tagets wich i thing is a very important point no one is talking about !
Thanks a lot in advance ! Sure it can make a greate video again ! :)
The GOAT is back
Bicmex I know I'm late to the party but, if I have 2 wildfire bombs, do I immediately press both? Or do I press it once, then let it tick to full before re-applying?
Ho, thanks you for the update ! You're the best !
I have a question tho, if you press, in that order :
Deth chakram, explosive and then Fury of the eagle, does the 4 set bonus (Crit chance and damage) apply to the explosive ?
Love you !
If you ever come back to making videos. I wonder if you mind making more vs melee lobbies where they train you. And teach us how to play against it. I know you have a last video on it a year ago.
Thanks Bicmex
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How is this guy so good at the game. At the class :D Arigato Senpai
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Incredible video, so so knowledgeable and appreciate the insight. What is the addon/weak aura to show your spells and the damage they do when you're pressing them ?
that's an addon called mikscrollingbattletext :')
Great guide. If you were to get in a dev's ear and enable a change for survival hunter, what would it be?
I imagine LoS bugfixes and maybe better passive mitigation
hunters doesn't need passive mitigation in my opinion, probably making it so survival tactics also reduces the cooldown of feign death by 10 or 15s would be enough for hunters to be extremely durable - but still prone to dying if the hunter fucks up
and then fix the disarm line of sight bug, and coordinated/spearhead not working if you're next to a wall sometimes. also need to fix the ever increasing issue of random pets eating your freezing trap, maybe making it so it always prioritizes players over minions/monsters? i don't mind pets or other players eating traps becuase that at least takes skill
Interesting take, I think all of the above raises the skill ceiling for survival even higher.
I think they need better passive mitigation for m+, so I'd stick with that, but FD is definitely a unique ability to build around.
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Sorry for question - why do we prefer haste over mastery? Isn't mastery gives dmg + passive healing?
Mainly because haste lowers your global cooldown, meaning you can press your spells off faster. Currently i prefer to have my haste around 33.34 for 1.12 gcd, the lowest i'd recommend currently is 29.87% haste aka 1.15 gcd.
@@Bicmex Ah, I see now! By the way, thanks to you, I was finally able to reach 1800. I know, it's now much, but I started to play last exp, and I could barely get 1400 at that time. And now I escaped "the elo hell". All thanks to your content! Keep it up, man, looking forward to your guides in TWW.
What are the best 2v2 and 3v3 comps for new survival hunter players?
Thoughts on S4 going back to the S1 tier set for survival? :(
Hey bro, great guide! Just wondering if you have a macro that allows me to cast spells like freedom on myself, party 1 and party 2 using the same button on my action bar.
Example would be:
Q= freedom on me
CTRL+Q= Freedom on party 1
Alt+Q= Freedom on party 2
Is this doable without having to create 3 separate buttons on my action bars?
#showtooltip
/cast [nomod,@player][mod:ctrl,@party1][mod:alt,@party2] Master's Call
what add-on is tracking Coordinated assault??
WoW you are so nice... Can u say me where u calculate the Breakpoints? I need it! I will calculate it for my other classes
i just did 1.50 (default global cooldown) / X (where X is the haste% you're looking for) = global cooldown you're looking for. So if you're looking to get 1.20 global cooldown then you'd just type in 1.5/x=1.2 and see that x = 1.25 aka 25% haste
Been waiting for more videos from you forever 😢. Maybe make a video of less skill buttons for surv hunter and still how to get 2.4k ish or like vs 2 melee lobby more examples?
Hello. This may be a dumb question but I’m wondering what your movement keys are or if you use mouse to move ect. I just don’t understand how you have D key bound 😅
I move with QWE instead of AWD ^__^
I swear survival design reminds me of a sub rogue lol. Perfect set ups. Meanwhile mage Polly go about it lol.
Trying to use your gladius but it doesn't seem to be working.
Do you really recommend going wrist/boots? I am dusting off my survival hunter and want to make him something so will be taking your advice here though I suspect it won't matter all that much.
yeaah I mean both are good, can't really go wrong with either infurious + dracothyst or venom stompers + toxified patch
@@Bicmex Thanks I picked bracers since if I do world PVP I think that the buffs you can get from the feast will make my mastery my best stat :)
Ser att du har Tab bundet. Använder du nån annan bind som target nearest enemy?
nej, ja ba clickar frames.. >.
@Bicmex
What do you think about this burst rotation?
Taking Bombardier Talent,
Explosive Shot
Death Charkram
Flanking Strike
Furry of the Eagle
BOMB BOMB BOMB
Coordinated Assault
BOMB BOMB
Spam Mongoose
lemme know what you think ?
i mean you can but it's not that crazy, especially since you'll lose a lot of potential damage since you'll lose the dot damage of some bombs by doing this
Hey Bicmex! You mentioned Exhil getting buffed next patch, but are we sure that's hitting Survival? It's only mentioned as a mm buff
i'm 99.99% sure it's for all 3 hunter specs, when they buffed master marksman last time it was also under the MM catagory... even though that buff was for all 3 specs
@@BicmexDoes that mean the wall buff is also for all 3 specs? or is the wall buff only for MM?
@@Bicmex I'm holding you personally liable for my heartbreak if it's mm only
@@Bicmex It did not.
I just started survival hunter in s3, it's pretty fun. Unfortunately I can only play it when my wife is available to press the other 25 keybinds on my number pad while I use the left side of the keyboard for the other 75 and my mouse for the additional 35.
Lol learn to use shift and control keybinds so u can keep pressing the same buttons and then only having to add a extra held shift or control
I use q e r f z x c v and then use them over again with shift and control, and if u have a mouse with numbers on the side you can bind those too
About video eddition bro juste use youtube it's very convenient ! (juste record then you will be able to cut moments)
Hi bro. U dont play with steel trap ? So how u kite war and dh.. if we need to stun and icetrap the healer we just have tar trap and concussion ?
usually just kiting away from the enemy healer is your best bet
do i need Ouroboreal Necklet?
Today is a good day.
Thanks man
yo, whats the addon you using for the improved character pane. With Haste details and all
dejaCharacterStats
Thats a really clean plater profile, mind sharing it?
got my settings here --> ruclips.net/video/4U1nONyDFfw/видео.html
how long did it take you to get that weap transmog? Im about to give up lol
took me about 500+ days to get it 😵💫😵💫
What do you do for opener if you dont have any of the set pieces?
Dinged 70, geared half as mm half as bm. swapped to survival. 100000 damage, 0 clue whats doing the damage, feels like im not doing anything but seeing crazy numbers. bomb is ridiculous
just wait until you got 4 set honestly LOL, survival is absolutely awful without it
Ahah! Lmao, thats such a shame. Will defo be there next stream @@Bicmex
Can I had the pet taunt macro into my core hunter dps ability macros?
you can if you want, i use to have it baked into my mongoose bite for the longest time - I removed it though cause one time I wanted to pre put my pet on the healer and be ready for a stun trap (since they were behind the pillar), but Instead my pet just walked off tryna taunt a dk pet so when it was time for me to stun -> trap the healer they were already behind the pillar. This made it so the healer could put down an earthen wall as they peaked my pet stun and our go was just over from there💀
i just want to be in 100% control of my pet all the time :D
@@Bicmex Ah, I see. I main BM so probably nice to have that macro baked in because most of my dmg comes from my pet. I can't afford to leave the pet on healer.
Best 3s comp for Surv right now?
Rdru/sp or dc/feral smth like that i think
holy priest jungle by far (feral), and then uhhh.. it's pretty good with sub/ret/unholy too
@@Bicmex thank you 😊
“*Some* sort of credibility”
Wich addon do you use for your actionbars
bartender! and the skin is masque: darion which can be found in my discord
addons you use for your ui
got them all here pastebin.com/dqhBnvS6
few words about race for pvp please
i'd just recommend either orc or night elf, both are solid options
@@Bicmex what do you think about human with 2 trinkets comparing to thosse 2
oh!
"Sometimes you feel like a wheelchair without Spearhead"
Lists 237 movement CDs
*cries in ret pala*
/s
???
Firstttt
naah aint no way
This had a ton of good information and was worth sitting through the whole thing. Long winded but charming and informative. Bravo. W guide.
And just to add in response to the end of the video [because yes I definitely just watched all 1:40 minutes of this and I learned a ton] it's not arena but it's the only footage I have of my hunter if you want to vod review my corny BG pvp video I made on my sv hunter. Lol it's mostly memes tho. ruclips.net/video/B5FWhbrdhtA/видео.html
wtf how you shoot? i have requirest ranged weapon?when i use mele weapon....is no sense
you're r1 at 2400 rating now? sad game
stop talking