New Class 710 Trains Now in Service
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- The Class 710 trains are finally running on the Gospel Oak - Barking line! Finally starting on the 23rd May 2019. Before that, last week I went along for a ride on a driver training day.
It's a video split into two parts, so are you sitting comfortably? If so i'll begin ...
#Class710 #LondonOverground
Dear Geoff, please return our hand rail ASAP
Regards, TFL
William the butchers son productions It's arriva
From one rail to another
@Peter-John Radcliffe Nah it's Departura
@@geofftech2 I don't understand this gag.
My hypothesis: charging points are strategically located away from the doors to encourage passengers to move into the carriage, and minimise crowding around the doors.
I was today years old when I learned Gospel Oak to Barking Line could be shortened to "GOBLIN"
You clearly havent watched enough Geoff
same
I have learned that too
GO = Gospel Oak
B = Barking
LIN = Line
GOspel oak to Barking LINe
I was never in the UK, and I have very little knowledge about trains, yet I can't get my eyes off of Geoff's videos.
wow
good
,
I am only 14 and I watch these vids
Welp, I'm the same.
When he said the 710 was a little late, I thought he meant by about 5 minutes.
I can remember using this line back in 1989. 3 clapped out diesel units constantly breaking down. Public transport has come a long way since then.
I seriously love the colors on these trains, compared to what the MBTA has here in Boston, those are works of art.
This is bittersweet for me: while it's lovely for you all who are excited to finally see upgrades, for me, it just reminds me how I'll never need it since my grandfather (whose closest station was Gospel Oak) passed away last year.
I sympathise. We were promised a regular direct service between London and my home town in 2011 - ideal for my teenage children and their grandfather to visit each other. Now the children have grown up and left home (and can drive). The service is now expected to start in December. And their grandfather died last month.
@@norbitonflyer5625 Sorry for your famiily's loss.
Geoff calling us children is something I didn’t realise I needed in my life
As a resident I didn't believe this would ever happen
Your Barking up the wrong tree with Gospel Oak.
That's you're not your. As in "you are" not that the barking belongs to you!
Over the wall all Grammer Police are nanas.
@@bt2555 Yeah what evs, you just can't spell! It's grammar btw!
@@bt2555 sorry, I shouldn't be so mean, you're right the grammar police are nanas 😅
Raf The Jaf You must be fun at parties....
Geoff uploading 2 days in a row😍
Hi i’m your 100th like
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Have to day Geoff I'm a big train enthusiast living in Ireland and I love your videos!they are well put together and full of information!So keep up the good work and look forward to your next 1!
That line has evolved, Fowler class 4 tanks and red painted lms passenger coaches, later followed by DMUs. It is now part of the overground with these modern trains. Wow another journey next time I am in the UK. great video, thank you.
These class 710's trains look fantastic and be in service finally from the delayed last year.
I was at Gospel Oak this morning. If I'd spotted you I'd have said "hello". They aren't phone charging points, they are "passenger charging points" for when you are feeling a bit run down ☺
(Spot the 37...)
I was so pleased when I heard the news yesterday. This is our nearest line, though one we rarely use because it doesn't go to where we often want to be.
Saw these stationed at Derby a few weeks ago. Looked amazing in the sun.
A Bombardier train delivery that's notoriously delayed? As a resident of Toronto and former resident of Waterloo, Ontario, I cannot possibly imagine what that's like...
(Background: Toronto's streetcar order and Waterloo's light rail order were both severely delayed, causing severe vehicle shortages on both systems)
Not to mention the Quality problems popping up all over the place with poor welding issues on all kinds of Bombardier products. TTC, MTA, everybody has been finding major problems which sidelines the equipment it's found on. These weld issues aren't little 3-inch-long patches of poor workmanship, they are welds that are critical to the structural integrity of the vehicle. Andy Byford even halted the deliveries of numerous Bombardier subway cars for New York's MTA because of it. Bombardier has problems on its hands to get straightened out.
@@stanpatterson5033 Pure drivel, you are obviously not a Torontonian.
so, I guess Geoff is now on the lookout for a grab pole off a decommissioned train to use for his bathroom towel rail?
friends of mine here in NYC have a WHOLE SUBWAY TRAIN DOOR as their bathroom door. its bonkers
Why doesn’t he come to my house when the 73 stock goes, I’m buying them so he can have one
A few grey ones becoming spare from the scrapped 1938 Stock cars from the IoW maybe..?
The announcement speakers at Barking do my head in 😂
Why won't they just fix those distorted loudspeakers!!
Ikr they have been broken for years, makes me just wanna hop on any train just to get away from it 😂
Good news the new trains have finally arrived. Doesn't say much though for the reputations of TfL and Bombardier, which are very much left in tatters.
ds1868 not really as plenty of rail stock gets delivered late , and its soon forgotten about .
@@adlam97531 Rail stock arriving late should not be considered the norm. And those who use this line on a daily basis will not forget about it.
Bombardier agree with. TfL what can they do if Bombardier can't write software in time?
Those new trains look so nice...
I agree.
Love the color
Graham! So good to see him pop up here.
Great to see the new trains in service! To think there was a rumor of class 314 coming down to cover until the 710s were ready!
@Geoff Marshall I was thinking that you should steal the grab pole and use it as a shower rack
I'm more excited for these new trains to arrive into service on the West Anglia lines
Does anyone know when this is happening?
Yes, the bulk of the order from Bombardier was for for the WA routes! The first 8 I think are for GOBLIN then we get the rest. Can't wait!
@@roseway1821 Nobody has any idea when it's happening
Hello. I’m a driver on the WA and I can tell you that we won’t get them until certain bugs are fixed. Although the trains are fit for passenger service the current units do not support electronic coupling which is essential on the West Anglia as we rely on 8 and 4 car trains that split and attach at various points throughout the day. Hopefully Bombardier will rectify this soon and we should start seeing them on the WA before the end of the year.
@@Simon_Said No, Watford Junction to Euston needs 8 before that, then you get the rest.
I might get the train from Barking
7am in the morning
Who's boarding on goblin
Class seven-ten coming
Shawn Li 😂🤣😭😭😭
Could be riding one of these, soon, I'm getting a few London jobs coming in at the moment.
Was the same when the First Scotrail class 385 entered passenger service on the 05.55 to Glasgow Queenstreet via Falkirk High. Was full mainly of Enthusiasts staff & Hitachi people & Engineers aswell as a few normal passengers
Twhiteford 851 yes Thomas
OMG. I am old enough to have used the old slam door type. Good old days. Nice to see the old line have a nice new train. I am 66. Used to live in Wembley now Dawlish.
I love the big wide windows! You can see the world clearly; unlike those triple glazed tinted narrow capital star windows.
I like the new trains, but I don't like the moquette. I think it should be blue white and orange to match the overground roundel.
Oh God... they're Bombardier... There's your answer as to why it's late. After they completed the S stock, it seems everything they've touched has been a problem.
Should have used CAF.. oh wait, scratch that
metropod Same issue in Brisbane, Australia.
Samuel H I’m in New York, and our Order of 300 R179 class subway cars is now two and a half years behind, to the point Bombardier is giving us two extra trains free. They actually had to scrap the entire ten car prototype train because they somehow forgot how to weld properly...
And now they have been pulled from service entirely
Should’ve gotten Stadler. They’re reliable and delivered on time. Yes I know your 745s had pretty bad teething problems but the Finnish ones are good.
12:36 Alex's fingernails are painted the same colour as the grabrails. Good to meet you at last this afternoon Geoff - probably just after you did the signoff on this video!
that was right when i recorded it, yes! at last our paths cross. i would have never of guessed in million years that that was you! :-D
Unmasked at last - but what would you have expected me to be like?
Finally, another new train, class 717, class 230 and class 710 have now enter to passenger service
Meanwhile the Watford Junction to Euston has a new bizarre timetable as these trains not ready for service on that line where the gaps between trains has gone completely berserk....With a 13 minute gap, a 17 minute gap and a 30 minute gap.............This is called an interim timetable!!!!
Goblin now has a 15 minute interval, but with a 30 minute gap every hour and a half, as you need six units to run the service and at present there are three 378s and two 710s available.
They are doing works to the tracks overnight which I assume is related to the new trains
PHEW! Saved me from pointing this out. The correct Watford Junction to Euston service as planned for the 4tph should be 13 / 17 / 13 /17 all day. But it is 2 trains short, i.e. there's 6 units from the old timetable and it needs 8 units for the new timetable - so again waiting for 2 new 710s to be available, with suitable number of trained drivers. Then, they have to phase in the next 6 710s on that route to replace the 378s so they can transfer to the NLL and ELL to boost these services. That will happen before the 710s appear on the Greater Anglia route.
They can try running some trains driverless
Best news I've had all day. I use this line to travel to Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead Heath. It's not a regular journey but it cuts out a lot faff with getting there the long way. I'm also a train enthusiast so the 710s look great.
Lovely interior they've done - kept all the best bits from the older trains, but just nice subtle improvements. Interesting that they've decided to move away from the recessed doors they used on the 378, as I thought that was a big deal for TFL?
Nice. I actually filmed that train, and had the exclusive on first operation. I wasn't on it, as I had to go to a funeral, but I was on the next one. Three years in the making of the film 'wiring the goblin' why people call it gob, or even as network rail call it, gobe, is purely down to error. There is only one goblin! Nice work.
I remember using this line over 20 years ago when there were 5 passengers, and we had to push the smoking DMU train out of Blackhorse Road. LoL!
It's a bit of a change for London Underground to go from arresting passengers that use electrical sockets to offering public USB sockets.
I don't think they thought enough about the location of the USB sockets though. Lots of passengers lean up against those walls next to the accordion-like joint, when the trains are full. I can imagine people having their USB cables snapped off.
Very good points!
They should have built them into the arm rests
Impressive looking train, nice moquette, well designed front.
The Class 710 looks like a 1990s concept
They set the bar very high
i live in barking and this train is a godsend , it is so so useful
I remember the Goblin when it was first generation DMUs and semaphore signalling. How times change!
8:56 His shirt matches his USB cable!!
Geoff, I saw one of them Class 710s in the bay platform at Willesden on Tuesday. They look similar to the Class 395s on Crossrail!
I think you mean 345. 395s are the Javelins on HS1
Thet are part of the same family of trains.
Ooohhhh. Very nice
They were supposed to be in service a whole year ago.
Bombardier. Everything is delayed at LEAST a year, if not more....
I wonder what the trouble was (or troubles were), even the approval for service was not very assuring.
@@LeoStarrenburg Software - it always is these days. Rail delay on new signalling or trains, gurantee the problem is software.
My one and only dream for the GOBLIN line and the Class 710... Bring back the once-a-day service to Willesden!
When are the 710's arriving on the Liverpool St to Chingford line? I'm quite excited to finally see one!!
Gareth Bisgrove 3rd March 2020
It’s the end of diesel trains on tfl
Eh? That happened long ago. The Class 172s are at WMT already.
Last time I took train to barking there were 172’s still running
TheOriginalGamerHD They were removed in March.
I hated the 172s
The 172 diesels were okay, but unable to cope with peak hour demands
I was sorry to see the 172s go, but the line is now a fully functioning electric railway with no place for the diesel multiple unit
The 378 units were an odd sight, but they kept the line running
A friend of mine took a ride on the line during the final few weeks of diesel operation, and had a "last chance" ride, and returned a few weeks later to do the 378s
The line attracted much interest from photographers this year
Geoff on the platform, New Trains, very good film!
I'm shocked I didn't hear any dogs Barking. Those trains look quite nice. Nicer than the NYC Subway and LIRR M7 cars. Luckily the MTA is introducing the M9 made by Kawasaki soon. They've been doing some test runs
Avery The Cuban-American long overdue on the subway
Who says it was dogs Barking? Could have been seals, or the elusive Barking spider....
At least the R179s are already in service with more cars being delivered. And it's funny since Bombardier has delayed the R179 along with the Class 710.
I honestly haven’t heard anything about these coming in to service aha!
Well, not a surprise that Bombardier hasn't delivered on time, just look at the CS100/A220 program and the Toronto Streetcar project
"It's great, there plenty USB charging points and the airco is working A-OK !" That, and it gets you from A to B, but that's a minor detail ;-)
There's hardly any charging points!
The announcement at the end 😂😂
Great telling the story on platform 1 in the shelter at Romford Geoff!!
It was Blackhorse Road. I met him there just after he'd finished filming it!
Thanks to the yellow front being gone this is one of the first good-looking British trains in a long while, together with the new Crossrail rolling stock.
The TfL Roundel at front looks like the train was built at the Opel car plant here in Germany 😁
Thanks for the video Geoff! I take the 345s daily into Paddington. The only difference I can see is the USB sockets!
The 345s have 6 doors per carriage.
And have some transverse seating
@@dominicfindlay and have 7 or 9 cars rather than 4
Also the left door in the 710 have a button to open the door in addition to the ones on the side of the doors.
345 only has the door open/close button on the sides
I think those trains look like the class 345 from crossrail
Because the same company made these trains(Bombardier)
Great video Geoff! Was the WiFi working? Also I saw you in the rear drivers cab on the last HST at Didcot!!
You are really good at remembering names
YAY IM SO EXCITED
I give it three weeks before the charging points stop working.
THE PS1kid Perhaps some of the locals vandalised it?
And the wifi
Went on a 710 today and they still work!
No yellow front.
Not a British train
I am so glad someone has finally said that! The new TPEs look awful!
Same with those horrid new 717's. Not only are they as hideous as the 700's, they don't have yellow fronts! Might as well be in France!
there is no longer a requirement for a yellow front on any UK trains from now on due to new LED headlights meaning the visibility of the front of the train meets the requirements
Yeah, but we've had yellow fronts forever. Paint it yellow regardless, it's the British thing to do
Um... I’m lying comfortably, will that do?
British train seems to be over oversized Metro trains and typical small gauge European trains. Regarding the classes 710,700, 387 & 377 they are basically London area commuter rail equivalent to Metro-North Railroad M8 because they operate in two modes overhead wires and third rail
Such a sleek design!
Sim0ntrains is in your video!!!
The Class 710s Normally Run Between Euston - Watford Junction, Liverpool Street - Chingford, Enfield Town & Cheshunt & Gospal Oak To Barking Riverside. But Rarely They Have Run Services Between Stratford And Richmond/Clapham Junction
Cool
Class 710 trains are good but east London line trains (that are refurbished (the one with the green maquette)) are better looking... and why is it the worst overground route gets the best trains?
You could do a report on 701s not yet being in service. SWR could explain the issues.
Beautiful this train 👌
At least i got it now. Thanks for that
I must say that the Cl.700 units which run through my area (St.Neots) have an annoying lack of USB charging points, and the seats are not the most comfortable for the long-haul journeys which some of us take. Fave at the moment are the SWT units which have far better seating.
Class 710 looks so cool on the outside!
They look comfortable and someone on Twitter said they have aircon as well (badly needed in this heat!).
Did you even watch the video? Geoff mentions the aircon a handful of times...
I don't mind cold air conditioning on busy commuter trains, but hate it on long cross country services. Travelled on a Virgin trains service a few years back, was on the train for 3 hours, the air conditioning had chilled me right through by the time the journey was over. Never travelled on a Virgin train after that.
I can still remember the steam service, it converted to DMU in 1959
I was only 6
USB phone chargers that charge quickly.
Keep quiet about the fact they are all 25KV.
Geoff, I just found out transport for wales will be buying d-trains from viva rail. Will you be doing a video on this?? Thanks
Lovely trains.
The man in the red shirt in the same shot as Graham works with the Mayor
I do like your video productions and this one in particular as I'm a bit of a trainspotter and also use the Gospel Oak-Barking line to connect with trains to Southend. The electrification of this line has caused so much upheaval in Bridge alterations with road diversions while the contractors were wiring it all up over the last few years! In a couple of weeks, I'm off on another trip and see for myself what the long-awaited 710s are like? At first, a glance there appears to be fewer seats than the old DMU's.
They actually have more - 189 compared to 120 in the DMUs. However, as they are twice as long, that's only 47 per carriage, compared to 60 per carriage in the DMUs
@@norbitonflyer5625 Thank you for the details. While watching the Video there just seemed to be fewer seats and facing inwards instead of rows as previously.
Brilliant video.
Orange "Warning" livery on the front? Never seen that before. Well I won't, will I? It's not Yellow :P
Over the last month, they've been playing with Azuma's up here around Darlington in the middle of the night, using both mainlines in both directions. Looked like they were racing each other, on the Railcam Tyneside track diagram? One night they had 2x Azuma's blocking the up & down lines at Ferryhill. They diverted 2x Expresses around them via the Ferryhill loops; the 1N35 2200 Kings Cross to Newcastle & a Northbound Caledonian Sleeper. Interesting to watch :)
The Azuma's are running with 5Qnn Headcode's :)
There are a great deal of "Colas" Freight trains, headed by 56's, 70/8's & "Electric"(?) recently too. Change of a Franchise, do you know?
All the best, Geoff. Thank you.
Thanks tfl. It's good train. I am a regular passanger
They are so excellent. omg
You are my hero Geoff I love trains my name is William.
Beautiful new trians
What a beautiful train
FINALLY! I would've home if only I knew.
You have heard of " Barking Mad"? Asuming the Barking schedule would happen on schedule was clearly subject to the illness. As a long time public transit user, I know the best schedule for boarding follows opening the vehicle doors.
Seems a bit backwards to have small amount of charge points when buses where live in the north east of England have usb points for each seat.
It's funny. I hate trains as a commuter from Harringey to Old Street. Find them horrid, late, expensive and the seats are like ironing boards. But your videos are always interesting and fun to watch!
You seem hyped today geoff!