Free Travel On the Gospel Oak to Barking Line
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2019
- The Gospel Oak to Barking Line (GOBLIN) is offering free travel to everyone that uses it between 31st August and 1st October 2019. This is as a 'thank you' to those who were caught up in the delays whilst new trains were brought into service on the line.
I went out to make some journeys to see how it worked, and how I'd get my money back when travelling on it using an Oyster card.
Also #SayNoToCalibri
More details on the TfL Page on free travel on the GOBLIN: tfl.gov.uk/modes/london-overg...
An OSI is an 'Out of Station Interchange' read up about those [and a complete list of where they all are] on Mike's incredible Oyster Rail website: www.oyster-rail.org.uk/interc...
If this is the case over a late role out of trains, imagine how much free travel you'd get for 'Lizzy Line' when it eventually opens!
But that line isn't delayed just because of the trains.
angus504 I’m well aware of the issues with Crossrail, I used to work on it before joining LU. My point is if you’re getting a month free travel on the ‘Goblin’ because of the delays in rolling out new trains, imagine how long you could get free travel on Crossrail for because of all the mishaps.
Noddy Mac, Enough time to bankrupt TFL I'd imagine.
Noddy Mac except that unfortunately Crossrail hasn’t impacted upon people in the same way that the problems on the GOB had impacted its users!
You work for the l.u ? Do you ever look at your colleagues at the gate on the station and think theres about 3 or 4 people working here that dont really need to be there?
That seems like a phenomenally complicated way to offer a free journey.
Robert Hindle: My guess is it’s tied into some existing system for giving refunds for “operational issues”. Hence the email Geoff got at the end. Behind the scenes someone’s running a script to extract all the qualifying journeys and then pushing that data into the refund system. For a “one off” probably a lot easier than changing the whole system not to charge you in the first place.
No wonder it was not explained. So you can travel anywhere in London for free for a month as long as you break your Journey for 20 mins on the GoBlin (tea break). Like Geoff I thought it was only free travel on that line, but rather it is for GoBlin station customers. Pity the transfer customers using interchanges without pink readers.
aljanat5 You just broke Google Translate.
welcome to the wonderful world of bureaucracy
@Graham Talon Not sure how that could help other than stopping her posting banal drivel.
Only you would go through all this effort Geoff!
Hope all 144,000 subscribers take the ride you suggested on the same day.
Not all of us live in London / the UK unfortunately :(
@@NicolasChiribelo
Indeed, I haven't been in London for 20 years now.
He's now almost double that.
1:02 when your sunglasses weren’t working so you check they are now
I thought that was you on the train earlier! I saw a chap with a camera get on at Leyton Midland Road, and I thought “That’s Geoff Marshall from all the stations!” You got off at Wanstead Park, and I was travelling to Barking so didn’t have time to come up and say hello. Keep up the good work with your great travelogue about the nation’s railways!
I like how you manage to make a tube journey so interesting
Love watching your videos, cant belive you was outside where i was staying in london for the summer and i missed you , so sad
Wow! You kept the same T-shirt on for 11 days! That's a dedication to continuity right there LOL!
Thanks for your interesting and fun VDO.
Need to go to Stratford on Tuesday. Normally would use the NLL all the way, but instead I will change to the GOBLIN and go to Wanstead Road/Forest Gate to test this out!
Now face the 2 week wait to see how my refund is processed :-)
@@PlanetoftheDeaf ever get it?
@@joesos Don't think I ever did! I think my route was too convoluted...
@@PlanetoftheDeaf oh, shame
Thanks very much for this. A day after this video dropped I got my refund email, I did 4 journeys one one day but I capped at £3.40 spend on the Goblin line. I was however expecting £6 refund as it said you would get the individual fares refunded even if you capped. Called the OYSTERCARD Helpdesk, they were clueless said I needed to speak to a senior so arranged a callback. This didn’t materialise so I chased and had to go through the whole thing again. Senior explained they’d had no training or briefing about the free travel as it wasn’t something they were involved in. Refund reference also wasn’t one of theirs. He did process a manual refund of £6 as opposed to the difference as a gesture of goodwill. Can’t believe however that the TFL Helpdesk got no queries on this.
I do like that the 345's and 710's have the roundel on the front of them.
Wouldn't it be Gospel Oak to Barking LINe rather than GOspel oak to Barking LINe. That's how I think of it anyway.
This looks more legit haha
Yes, my Hungarian friends keep telling me this stereotype that it's always raining here in England. I can't say enough that this is not the case. 😉😂
Well, they say the same for Hamburg. meanwhile it's not true on two reasons: first, only a quarter of the year it rains. and second, most rain days are just, that it rains for some minutes, then 2-4 hours of sunshine and then rain again. That's a "rain day", although you enjoy most the time rain free.
Quick note: The £1.50 travel off-peak in zones 2-6 is only TfL set fares and not Overground in the Greater Anglia area either. So Elstree - West Hampstead - Gospel Oak - Seven Sisters may not be free and will certainly cost more than £1.50 initially. Same with Barking - Blackhorse Road - Seven Sisters - Enfield Town.
Bro's edits are so good
Great video mate 😊😊
Brilliant!
You should do the trams in nottingham next its a fun journey
Amazing you got your money back i hope I am as lucky as you so I can get my journeys back
There are similar discounts here in HK. For instance, when four MTR lines were delayed for 6 hours, there was half price for adults on a weekend after that, and a flat fare of HK$1 (£0.1) for all other passengers. However, it is not as good as free travel, so I want free travel on MTR after severe delays.
Fantastic video
I'm off work this week so thinking of trying it tomorrow 😀🚉
Well those are a vast improvement on the days of the Class 104s cascaded from the North-west. And they were knackered when we got rid of them...
Great vlog I’ll be in London in November
Just as I’m coming there!
In about 1990 there was a train strike and if you had a season ticket you had to queue up at the ticket office where you bought it and they would give you a pro-rata refund in cash. The bloke gave me too much. Bolshie NUR member doing it on purpose? We'll never know...
OK - excellent points. I forgot about stations with multiple lines running thorough them. And they may want some money back from the train manufacturer. Thank you!
I noticed on the Victoria Line train maps, many still don't show Overground at Seven Sisters and Walthamstow Central. It looks like stickers have been removed from that section of the map, but they may have been the ones showing that section temporarily closed a few years ago.
It is sunny here in gants Hill but now it is cloudy e
i worked on the goblin line in the silverlink days
Geoff doing his best Roy Orbison impression.
As always Geoff good knowledge. May I make a suggestion. We live on the Kent coast. My son and his friends are being blown by the four winds as they go off to various universities around the country. They now have to budget. How about spreading your knowledge to various big cities and their public transport? Your insights will be invaluable.
Thanks as always.
There was a thing on the news a few weeks ago that some universities are paying prospective student's fares. Might be worth checking out.
@@caw25sha my son is going to Chichester. They get a free bus to campus if they live off site. Also Santander is giving a train travel card for free for 4 years if he opens an account (sorry for the plug)
He has been to #AllTheStations in the UK, but that does sound like it could be fun.
It costs money though. Would you back a Kickstarter or Patreon to fund sending Geoff out of London?
One thing I would like to see Geoff do, is the regional equivalents of the Tube Challenge. He likes to do the Park Run stuff, so combining a trip to say Liverpool with a world record attempt to do all the Metro stations as fast as possible, could be a laugh.
@@DavidShepheard yes I would once I've gotten over how much my son has just cost me. Have you ever experienced a son/daughter going to a UK university? 😭😭😭
Wonderful, what a difference in infrastructure development from my commute days in the 80s (OK long time ago). Always enjoy your videos Geoff. Praps you might like to trundle around Leeds/Liverpool/Manchester/Birmingham rail infrastructure by way of a comparison?
I remember riding in the guard's van of a slam door unit on the Goblin in 1999/2000...
I like the new class 710 and the 345. We've got some decent new trains for once!
Agreed
Not really related to this video, but I was at Brentwood this morning, on the Cross-Eliz-Purp line, and they have the new purple roundals up around the station.
MrRobbiepee gidea park got the purple sign at the station entrance now.
I like how the new trains have the roundels on the front... Ither that or they're built by Nissan
Imagine offering free travel on a line because of delays in new trains lol wish we had that outside of London for the same thing
5:42 When you’re late pulling into a station and you see your connecting train leaving.
We do have an equivalent of these trains the Class 710s third rail overhead wires the Metro North M8 third rail only variant for the M8 is the M9 first entered service last Wednesday on Port Jefferson Line starting from the 1970 electrified station Huntington to Long Island City.
Geoff you got come to New York City and compare our commuter trains to yours in London and Norwich area. Speaking of class 755 it's equivalent in the New York City area are NJ Transit ALP-45DP LIRR DM30AC and Amtrak/Metro North P32AC-DM Class 710 M8/M9
In New York City, MasterCard ran a similar offer to promote the new OMNY fare payment system on the NYC Subway (which is built by Cubic Transportation Systems, the same company responsible for the Oyster system in London).
For us, it was fairly straightforward. Tap in with your contactless MasterCard twice on Friday, and they’d refund your money for those taps. And we don’t have zones, just a single flat rate to travel for up to two hours (which is enough time to get basically anywhere in the city). It was pretty rad.
Also, what’s up with Bombardier? They screwed up a new trainset delivery for MTA New York City Transit a few years ago, and now they’re late on delivery for these TfL trains?
Ahhhhhhh 😂😂😂 you went to meyton lidland!
Watching this whilst it's raining cats and dogs in London xD
keep-em coming!!!
O.O what song have you used in this one Geoff?
#SayNoToCalibri
Love how you sas #SayNoToCalibri and then you uses Calibri as your font, amusing
How about free travel on the Watford DC line they also have the 710 and the Enfield/ Cheshunt and Chingford branches future videos and by the way Good video Geoff 100% keep those videos up Geoff how about if the London Transport Museum sell the class 710s
Hi, Geoff. Thanks for your videos, I like them a lot. I´d like to ask a question on fares in South London. Did I get it right, that an extra fee of 1,50 or 1,70 is charged, if changing from the National Rail to the Underground System inside zone 1? If so, why and how do Londoners react to that?
Why? Because most NR lines south of the river are still under the control of privately owned train operating companies (TOCs) who insist on charging extra. A move to change this was blocked by the previous Transport Secretary because most such routes stray outside Greater London and he didn't want transport in his Surrey constituency under the control of London - although Metropolitan Line commuters in Herts and Bucks seem quite happy with such a situation. South Londoners are generally resigned to the situation, but it has led to gross overcrowding at Vauxhall, as you can game the system there because it is in both Zones 1 and 2 and thus changing to the Tube there instead of at Waterloo works out cheaper.
My head is spinning....
Good continuity t-shirt action.
attention to detail David, always the attention to detail. ;-)
Whats the music? love it
Will this promotion be available on other overground routes?
ur the best youtuber ever! Kids might be watching ur other channle named londonist and theh will keqrn everything abqout trqinw
The problem with this is that although it is my nearest line, I simply don't want or need to go to the places it goes to often enough to benefit.
Any good places to go for a family day out?
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4.56 - 5.05 Geoff, welcome to Leyton Middle Road! Never heard of that station in existence!
What is a "Frognal"? A signal that always shows green?
Where can I get those orange oyster wallets that Geoff showed on Twitter?
OSI, like Kenton -> Northwick Park?
Leytonstone High Road: 571,000 people.
I’d Love to know the etymology of Gospel Oak. I imagine John Wesley preaching under a spreading oak tree during an open air revival.
Just wondering what the GOBLIN will be called when it's extended to barking riverside, GOBRLIN doesn't sound quite right!
GOBaRivLin?
Sounds like a make of whisky...
It’s amazing they take the money out straight away but can take up to two weeks to pay it back. So they get to keep all the interest.
I suspect there's a lot of manual working going on behind the scenes to process refunds. It's an unusual and temporary scenario, and as this video demonstrates there are many variables.
@@OldUKAds Such as using an OSI to 'start' a qualifying journey!
I love the music played. Anyone know what it is ?
It's by David Cutter.
Thankyou ib9rt
Perhaps Network Rail should offer the same deal to passengers on this line bearing all the delays they caused while electricfying the line.
"that's a feature not a bug" -- IT developers
What is this 'walking' that you talk about?
Can I ask a question if I went from Barking to gospel oak then tapped out at gospel oak then tapped back in there to go back to Barking (within the next week) would I get a refund
Daniel's UK Transport videography yes
@@tbavister yes because it's before the 1st october
@@tbavister that's good
Does the gold discount only apply if you buy a rail card or is there any other ways to get a discount as a customer?
you can get the 1/3 Oyster discount with the : 16-25 Railcard, 26-30 Railcard, Senior Railcard, Disabled Railcard, HM Forces Railcard, and the Annual Gold Card (which is what i have)
4:28 - how do you get an Oyster Balance with 71p? Even with railcards there only fares charged to the nearest 5p
He gets 1/3 off through his Gold card, resulting in odd amounts I suspect.
Boy do I remember my Old Days on the Gospel Line. So sad to be 66 years old.
Stephen Little were those 121’s
I recall a class 33 with 3TC set for a short while, never saw any 121s, prior to the 150s there were 117s, prior to those 115s, before that a very mixed fleet with some 104s, 108s, 119s.
Ah yes 115,s I think that’s what they may have been
If you're 66 (and live in London) you can ride the Goblin for free at any time.
@@norbitonflyer5625 I've moved to Dawlish Devon. Thanks. Memory.
Any idea when the 710's are going to be in service on the Anglia lines?
They are currently training drivers on the Watford-Euston line and have one or two 710s running in the peak. Off-peak it's driver training train.
Are all 710's in service now? As in, there's no 172's on the line? Also nice ScotRail wallet ;)
You beat me to the ScotRail comment!
The last 172 left for the Midlands in March
Just to be clear on Andrew's comment. The GOBLIN has a full service using 710s but the rest of the trains that will be interchangeable between the GOBLIN and the Watford-Euston line aren't ready yet. I think there are about 7/8 trains that can be used, the GOBLIN only needs 6.
Ge went to my area
I wonder what this music is?
Can you tell me more about this gold card discount you have on your Oyster card.
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I saw Geoff’s Video and got an Exeter central to Exeter st David’s gold card £144 annually I work and live in london travel zone 1-5 and more than half of my journeys are off peak It does save you so much money
@@1972darrenbruce Wasn't one of the short trips on the Isle of Wight supposed to be a cheaper gold card than that?
(I don't suppose Geoff would know, what with him never having been to the Isle of Wight.)
@@DavidShepheard he's been to the isle of man though!!
Hi Geoff.
First, could you do a Q&A video, so that all us semi-nerds can ask you all our semi-nerd questions?? :-)
Second, thank you for all the amazing content, you (two) make for us. I love watching (and re-watching) your videos, when I travel by train around all of Denmark as a handball-referee.
Alt the best, from a Danish semi-nerd fan ;-)
A q&a would be good. And maybe you could make some videos about Danish trains for us?
The second suggestion was for Mike, not Geoff by the way.
I feel I'm missing out on this as I have a 60+ Oyster card so I get free travel anyway!
Tomorrow I'll be using it to visit all the least used Tube stations in a day- I don't know if anyone's done this before, or indeed if it's possible. I'll let you know.
PS I'm enjoying All the Stations, a bit late I know but now I'm retired I have the time to watch things like that.
Walthamstow Queen's Road:501,000 people.
And lucky enough when you got to the overground you got the new trains not the class 172
i live on the GOBLIN at leyton midland road
👍
Geoff are they supposed to use the class 314s from ScotRail to use on the gospel oak to barking as class 710 shortage
No, they are using the new class 710
Why would they do that when the GOBLin is already completely 710 operated? It would have made sense about a year or two ago, not now.
They used three shortened Class 378 (4 cars instead of 5 cars) trains for many months to fill in for missing stock when the Class 172s were removed from the GOBLIN to go elsewhere. The unused unit from each Class 378 train were parked up on a siding in storage during that time.
There were two 710s and three 378s in service for quite a while, with a gap in the timetable where the sixth unit should have been.
With the arrival of the remainder of the new Class 710 units, the Class 378s are gone from the GOBLIN, presumably reunited with their stored units that were temporarily detached.
@@florencegomer7937 314s couldn't have been used as they do not have the cameras needed for one person operation on that line and there were no guards available who had the necessary training to both operate a 314 (or indeed a 313 or 315) and to work on the Goblin
Norbiton Flyer ... You meant to reply to someone else? I never mentioned 314s.
😁Where's Leyton 'Middle' Road?
(4:57)
did you mean Leyton midland road
Will they give free travel on the Enfield town line ( been waiting ages for new trains)
Almost certainly not: the only reason the GOB passengers are getting the free travel is because the older (class 172) trains had to leave before the replacement 710s arrived, with the service getting heavily reduced as a result.
Thanks Geoff. You always make me smile. Brightened up my curry (no naan, app didn't work) at my local anti-Brexit pub chain. Sadly, there is little alternative. 😉 Oops, meant Brexit supporting.
Such pretty cars, but why so few people?
Off peak.
I love your video's very interesting! Keep the good video's up
Cool guy
I may be wrong, but isn't TFL making the free ride more difficult on themselves as well as their customers? If one has to tap in and tap out when entering and leaving any of the stations along this route, would it not be simpler to just not deduct the charge from your Oyster Card at the outset? In other words, your Oyster Card balance is the same amount when you tapped in and later when you tap out. Or does TFL need to do refunds to see how often customers are using this line during the promotion? Just wondering.
I think at Barking (like most stations) there is a common ticket barrier for all lines so the card reader wouldn't know whether you were going to use the Goblin, H&C, District of Fenchurch St lines.
Brian Dill I expect they’re claiming it back from the train manufacturer.
@@keyed_6727 Yes, Geoff mentioned it was being paid for by Bombardier (which he likes to pronounce the French way!)
@@caw25sha the company is pronounced like that, not like the beer
@@CarolineFord1 It's a Canadian company so I assumed French-speaking Canadians would say Bom-bar-dee-ay and English-speaking Canadians would say Bom-ber-deer. But I'm probably wrong 😦
Crouch Hill:470,000 people.
I did it yday and have a year travel card. No refund
Leytonstone high road isnt as tranquil as it used to be?
An ever increasing number of passengers use the station
It's my nearest overground Station
These offers are not advertised outside of London.
So will we Be seeing free travel on crossrail as well then lol
This is free travel on this line due to late rollout of trains. That isn’t the case with cross rail is it.
Gospel oak to barking
Travelled every work day in September on the goblin and got nothing, because I have the wrong travel card!
Can I ask what you mean by ‘wrong travelcard’? I used it every weekday in September too and have been waiting to hear back from TFL for 2 weeks about a refund as no sign of anything!
What’s the difference between London Overground and TFL Rail?
TfL Rail is formed of the services that'll get absorbed into Crossrail's Elizabeth Line. The Overground services are... a range of suburban services with the East London Line extension? Not sure how to describe them
@@fetchstixRHD overground is probably best described as national rail services operated (and generally owned) by tfl
@@farfromsensibletv: ...technically, TfL Rail/the Elizabeth Line/Crossrail are National Rail services, and they're operated and owned by TfL too. For most reasons, the differences don't matter apart from the fact that Crossrail services cross central London, whereas Overground services for the most part don't?
@@fetchstixRHD the major difference (as you mentioned) is really that tfl rail is part of the Elizabeth line and has separate train designs. It's true to say that overground is in few zone 1 stations, however the same can be said for tfl rail as it is now (until the Elizabeth line turns it into an underground service across central London which of course changes it entirely from the Overground) so ultimately it comes down to the Elizabeth line preparations I believe
OH MY GOD TOTTENHAM HALE I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WERE HERE
Well I would just have put up posters on the line saying you can ride for free