I can agree with your argument, I think if it was like a one - on - one, no preptime just those two, Gru should win via statstomping and overpowering. Honestly, I though because of how often you'd scale Megamind he would have taken the win.
I knew gru won when in the first movie he can casually make a weapon that affect the moon while mega mind similar feat to that is his peak with turning the ocean to jello
realistically, they'd probably throw their inventions at each other, both realize the other is a genius who isn't any real danger to society, and probably end up getting along really well
But they'd totally duke it out just out of good old villain-rivalry, no? I imagine them looking at each other like Pokémon trainers with the common understanding 'We gonna fight now'.
Megamind's tech is built for offense against an all-powerful being like Metroman. Gru has impressive physical capabilities but he's more like a professional thief.
@@daviddimitrov3696 yeah I’m aware of that. I’m saying that physical strength barely matters in a fight like this because megamind has taken down a being far more powerful with his brain. (I am not arguing that megamind is physically stronger than gru)
Megamind threw a gigantic robot the size of a building several hundred feet into the air and survived it falling and crushing him into street. Look up the “button of doom” short if you want to to see it for yourself
In the Despicable Me game, Gru can use a Magnet Gun, which has the capability of disabling robots/machines I feel like that's a hard counter against Megaminds contraptions, but idk, finding info for the DM game is honestly pretty difficult so I might be remembering it wrong
You can find it in a *different way* ... That is, if Nintendo didn't cause more damage then good, and took the DM game alongside it or overall somehow not there anymore. Same goes for Megamind's case, let's not forget that he too has games!
You know... Just because an amped minion falls down when Gru kicks it doesn't mean Gru actually did any damage.. they don't weigh very much even if they're essentially indestuctible. In fact, the entire reason why minions were used for the serum is because their durability is obscenely high compared to any of the other characters, so they shouldn't be used for any durability scaling either
@@xavierlove9603 I'm stronger than a turtle. A turtle's shell can easily tank things that would harm me. Attack potency and durability are NOT interchangeable, and I'm tired of powerscalers pretending they are.
brainbots can totally be offensive. not only does megamind have over 100,000, but they have proven to be violent, as they have bitten megaminds hand several times. imagine what 100,000 would do to gru.
They also kept Tighten busy for a decent amount of time as well as causing an entire police force to surrender on the spot. That last one might have been more presentation than anything but I still think he underestimated the little guys in the video.
I don't think Megamind perceiving Metro Man while their both flying through space in the opening should even be considered a feat, this is because of relativity. Both Megamind and Metroman's spacecraft are moving at similar speeds, and while yes they may be moving potentially faster than the speed of light relative to an outside observer, relative to either Metro Man or Megamind, the other would be only moving a few meters per second, and therefore it would be easy to perceive the other. To put it simply, if you're on a train moving at 100m/s (trains don't go that fast, but work with me here), and you see another train moving along side you at the same speed, you'd be able to see it, point out details of it, or even react to something someone is doing on the other train, however that doesn't mean that if you were on the side of the rails and that same train went by at 100m/s that you'd be able to see or react to it beyond a blur, the same thing applies to Megamind and Metro Man here, because they're going at the same speed, it isn't relevant for perception. Thank you for coming to me Ted Talk.
Megamind seeing Metroman as babies in the ftl pods isn't any sort of feat, they are both going the same speed in the same direction so their relative speed is super low...
also they don't have to be going light speed to escape a black hole since they aren't past the event horizon, so saying that they are going faster than light isn't necessarily correct
That moment when you consider the "Rule of cool" to be as factual as physically possible, thus rendering human characters as super-human for no other reasons than "Math checks out."
Honestly Gru having the literal invincible minions is enough, just give em powers like in the forth movie and they win. If not even a giant rocket can scratch em, he wins no shot.
Megamind has a whole lot of non-damaging crowd control options that would totally work against the minions though, even if it's just something stupid like holograms to distract them.
But, doesn't Gru also receive knowledge of Megamind? Surely he would possibly create a technological weapon capable of capitalising on megaminds weak points, such as a emp?
@@DeterminismisFreedom Obviously he doesn't need to, Gru is a nepo-baby, he has people working for him because he is simply too rich, and he can also just steal any weapon that will give Megamind the edge, Roxanne alone was able to find Megamid's lair fairly easily, I doubt Gru wouldnt be able to find it the very same way they did to that shrink ray when Dr. Nefario couldn't make it, he's a master thief before becoming the greatest villain of all and before becoming a top ranking spy
the boys would join batmans team batman would take his own v homelander would be losing a 1v1 against batman after he takes his superman v he summons alfred alfred kills homelander batman finds a way to remove the v so he can beat the v out of every supe with a challenge he takes down vought universe saved im joking i dont fucking know all i know is alfred is op 🫵
What is this idea? explain which version, or are you going out for the poplar one if you're going off of the show then which Batman are you using? like there is so much popular versions of this man
If we are getting really serious. The shrink ray would actually make the moon less “heavy”, it would just get denser meaning the moon would have the same mass. So technically you could say that Gru held the ENTIRE moon, with no difficulty mind you.
I feel like megamind perciving metroman at FTL isn't actually impressive. He was moving at a similar enough speed, so the relative speed was actually rather low.
Yeah a lot of the claims related to reaction/perception time didn't really make any sense. That's the most egregious one, but the whole section about Vector being able to react at relativistic speeds, and then being surprised Gru could dodge his missiles, therefore Gru has relativistic reaction time and speed, was all just a huge stretch that doesn't make any logical sense.
@@KingNedya The whole dodging laser guns in general is a bad speed feat because in reality the character doesn't need to be faster than the laser, they need to be faster than the guy who's shooting. You don't react to the laser, you react to the guy pulling the trigger.
@@catalin2766 This too. I was actually originally going to include a comparison to dodging hitscan weapons in FPS games via predictive movement, but I didn't want to bloat my comment. But yeah dodging laser weapons or lightning equating to light-speed reaction time and speed doesn't make much sense, except for certain scenarios. Like dodging natural lightning which is automatically attracted to you and you have no reference for intent, aim, or timing would probably equate to that, but with a person you can take advantage of their imperfect aim, especially if there's some sort of tell that they're attacking like throwing their hands forward or opening their palm or something.
I think Vector would honestly be a way better opponent for Megamind, as they're WAY more similar, neither are considered real hand-to-hand threats, both are very threatening with their technology, both are geniuses, both could technically destroy a city with the amount of firepower they have
You forgot one thing to mention, megamind has giant robots and guess what gru loses to giant robots not to mention that megamind was also able to tank getting crushed by said robot and beat titan that can destroy whole city's, so overall megamind wins
I mean if support comes in to play gru has a minion in the new movies that lasers through the planet like butter go viral ng grue support equal to planetary plus
I think if we wanna make this fight as interesting as possible we give Gru his estimated 2 million-ish minions and Megamind the same amount of his brain bots
the only thing that comes to everything is Megamind's ridiculous hax and feats vs Gru's capabilities. Megamind fought against Titan, who's a literal 2nd coming of Metro Man who can SUPERSPEED to stop time basically and that superspeed is already a universal feat. Given Titan might not know how to use it since he's acquired Metro Man's power just too recently, but he was trained by Megamind to enhance these powers so he's still a super formidable foe that can blitz through Despicable Me's world since they lack actual superhero feats that can go toe to toe against Titan. Sure they have the "tech" for it, but it's not limited to extracting the power off Titan since it needs to actually touch him. Gru on the other hand just had better capabilities throughout the movies. he was the best supervillain of his era, revered by everyone in the underworld. he might have changed sides, but he's still a capable inventor/supervillain. he's fought numerous mind boggling villains and giant robots, but nowhere near Metro Man level. the strongest he fought is probably the main antagonist on the 2nd movie since he was enhanced by a super drug to get stronger. since then, there's nothing much to actually say that Gru isn't nowhere close to Megamind level, but he's near. in 1 vs 1 scenario, I think Megamind would take the cake because of feats alone, but Gru is through and through a capable fighter and supervillain. Megamind can construct DNA from a literal super hero whilst Despicable Me lacks thereof, meaning Gru's universe is probably in lower ranking compare to Megamind and what he fought against. it's the matter of his ridiculous hax that Megamind would win against Gru. In a sense of avoiding argument, Megamind can literally give Metro Man powers to HIMSELF and blitz through everything. Gru wouldn't even be able to steal his ray to reverse its effects because at that time Megamind would have been equally as strong as Metro Man and destroy said ray and mop the floor with Gru. but in blitz scenario, Gru would beat the living f out of Megamind. Megamind is nowhere near capable in fighting so is Minion.
1, while yes metroman was moving massively faster then light, it is not a universal feat and there's no evidence that time actually stopped. 2, titan is NOT as strong as metroman, or even on the same level, if you use the dna he got from metroman's dandriff and compare that to metroman's entire body, that means metroman is 275Billion times stronger then titan, and even if you don't want to use the dna thing then titan still only has a single at or faster then mach 1 feat while metroman was moving massively faster then light casually.
The 'feat' of them flying near each other and perceiving who is in the the pod isn't impressive when you consider that they're moving at a similar rate and in the same direction. yeah i can see the guy in the car next to me perfectly fine too my dude...
He literally said its only his perception, not his reaction, and this isnt even a good debunk, sure them flying at the same speeds helps so the shop stays in his line of perception, but hes still perceiving it, meanwhile Metroman casually blitzes an older Megamind's percept while right in front of him, right in front of his eyes, meaning he is clearly faster than the ship
Regardless, from what you said an older metroman speed blitzed an older mega mind, that's a power scaling on metroman and thats fine. But 2 pods moving in unison in the same direction wouldn't need enhanced powers of perception to look to the right of them.
When you are in a train and you look across the aisle at your friend sitting in the opposite side, you don't need to perceive him. Yes they're in the same vehicle, but say there's a train next to yours going the same way same speed, it would be like looking at your friend sitting across from you...
I think the reason it's meant to be impressive is because it should be impossible based on physics. To see something you need light to bounce of it then hit your eyes, but if both things are moving at near light speed with a decent gap, there shouldn't be time for the light to bounce between them. There's also red-shift and other wacky relativistic things. Relativity is weird so i might be wrong.
I think the reason he doesn’t use the dehydration gun on MetroMan or titan is there to fast to be hit by it if it hit Bruno do think it’s end the fight But one thing is like to mention is that megamind doesn’t believe the death ray to be able to kill MetroMan yet he does believe his suit to be his equal Megamind also has access to time travel and a portal gun he could just kill infant gru
I can imagine the dehydration gun and freeze ray beam battling, while the minions and minion-bots clash. Would be quite the fight, as they've both got plenty of gadgets that would make things interesting. It wouldn't be one-sided, but unless Megamind has prep time, Gru would wear him down and win.
We already know Megamind is more about presentation than Gru. I feel his death-ray “full concentrated power of the sun” statement was just that, presentation. However I think the TRUE deciding factor for this fight would be the situation they were in. Because Gru may have better feats, but he can only seem to draw them out when those he cares about are in jeopardy. Megamind only ever kidnapped Roxan and fought Metroman for attention. He even admits he never thought the death-ray wouldn’t work on metroman. So I personally think it comes down to who goes too far the first. The first one to put the loved-ones of the other in danger loses.
Knowing that the human body contains 60% water its disapointing that the cubes are tiny, they should be about 40% of the initial mass, but it guess it would look gross
This has been answered years ago, Yes, Batman can easily solve it. Someone created an edited clip recently on youtube where they took out the inner monologue on L and Light whenever they encounter each other, Light really sounded like the suspect/ perpetrator to a point that it wasn't even a game of outsmarting each other anymore, Light without an inner monologue literally sounds like a 13 year old that is very bad at lying
It might seem crazy what I'm about to say Sunshine she's here, you can take a break I'm a hot air balloon that could go to space With the air, like I don't care baby by the way Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth Because I'm happy Clap along if you know what happiness is to you Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do Here come bad news talking this and that Yeah, well, gimme all you got and don't hold back Yeah, well I should probably warn you I'll be just fine Yeah, no offense to you don't waste your time Here's why Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth Because I'm happy Clap along if you know what happiness is to you Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do bring me down Can't nothing (happy) bring me down My level's too high (happy) to bring me down Can't nothing (happy) bring me down I said (Happy, happy, happy) bring me down Can't nothing bring me down My level's too high (happy) to bring me down Can't nothing bring me down I said Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth Because I'm happy Clap along if you know what happiness is to you Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth Because I'm happy Clap along if you know what happiness is to you Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do bring me down Can't nothing (happy) bring me down My level's too high (happy) to bring me down Can't nothing (happy) bring me down I said Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth Because I'm happy Clap along if you know what happiness is to you Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth Because I'm happy Clap along if you know what happiness is to you Because I'm happy Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
Vs Suggestions: 1. All Might(My Hero Academia) vs Invincible(Invincible) 2. Pennywise(IT) vs Freddy Krueger(Nightmare on Elm Street) 3. Darkseid(DC Comics) vs The Entire Mortal Kombat Verse 4. A-Train(The Boys) vs Quicksilver(MCU)
In my opinion 1.) invincible wins 2.)pennywise wins 3.)darkseid wins 4.) A-train wins (only if you count him dodging star lights lasers if you don't then probably quicksilver wins)
It's good to see how these two characters solo several characters and even lines we know. Another interesting confrontation would be between the protagonists of the franchises: **Adventure Quest & Dragon Age**
Assuming Gru gets intel on Megamind, but Megamind doesn't even know Gru is after him (which would be what's happening based on the scenario) I genuinely think Megamind is just going to get his skull crushed before he can win
@@maninhu9837 Gru will win simply because he has toon force, also Gru's Physical feats out scales Megamind ang his tech weapons, Bro dodges missiles and lasers matrix style at ease
If Gru got all of his minions Megamind would potentially get wiped, based off of the movie poster there are 10,400 minions (although the universe does not confirm how most of those got there considering Gru started with much less and minions canonically cannot reproduce) and while Megamind would be able to easily take 10,400 toddlers. we have to understand that the minions are practically immortal, they show nearly no signs of aging and seem to take no real damage, they seem to either not need oxygen at all or need very very little, they can take seemingly any amount of damages, and have no real weaknesses. so if you were in a battle with basically 10,400 immortal toddlers you would seem to win the fight, until you get tired and all your weapons and tools wear out. so not even considering Gru's stats Megamind will most likely end up getting wiped (under the circumstance he doesn't get prep time of course, with prep time it is possible he could find out some way to get rid of the minions, but without prep time he'll just get tired out and then lose).
@@ThatGuyRNA This is what I'm thinking too, taking out the minions wouldn't be hard with the dehydration gun and having his brain bots to stall them and or any other of his bots.
@@ThatGuyRNA well, we could determine based off of the movies that physical attacks don’t work on them, in fact the only “attack” that I can remember working on them was the one where it turned them purple, based off this information we could determine that the minions can’t be dehydrated into cubes because that would alter their state.
@@ThatGuyRNA we don’t actually know how the dehydration gun works but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that dehydrating someone would fall under the category of physical attacks (as you’re basically ripping away the water from their body) and the minions have been shown to be practically impervious to any physical attacks that renders themselves “damaged” in any way (other than the purple minions which was a different type of change) so I really don’t think the dehydration gun would work on them with them being as incredibly resistant to any kind of damage as they are.
You know you have an entertaining matchup when different scenarios and circumstances of the two characters fighting can lead to drastically different outcomes where both have a good chance of winning depending on what happens before the fight, even if one is technically stronger than the other.
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I can agree with your argument, I think if it was like a one - on - one, no preptime just those two, Gru should win via statstomping and overpowering. Honestly, I though because of how often you'd scale Megamind he would have taken the win.
I knew gru won when in the first movie he can casually make a weapon that affect the moon while mega mind similar feat to that is his peak with turning the ocean to jello
@@gameuniverse5973 Dude, he STOLE the shrink ray, that's kinda a big plot point of the first movie. He didn't make it.
Don’t forget that the dehydration gun is pretty much just a better shrink ray in terms of combat potential
@@thunderspark1536 oh woops I knew I forgot something
@@peterstoric6560 not really when the shrink ray would work on anything I doubt the dehydration gun any setting would work on mech suits or ships
Calling that new Megamind movie a sequel might have been the most cursed thing you have ever said
Megamind got RUINED
He said quote n quote
Megamind got neg diffed by the new authors blud what have they done to him 😭😭😭
It quite literally is a sequel though
Who let Peacock Entertainment cook instead of Dreamworks? Because they just ruined the masterpiece 💀
*the ending line if gru wins*
Gru: "You may be a super villain, but not a Despicable one."
LOL
Megamind: "what no no Die's@@samseddmedia
HAHAHAHA
"Sorry, but it takes a real Megamind to take me down. A Despicable Me one."
"What's a god to a non-believer?"
“You’re a villain all right. Just not a super one!”
What’s the difference?
Oh yeah what the difference
“Presentation!”
@@jimmythearsonist451 that quote I will never forget
@@UnstoppableInfinityDuck presentation
realistically, they'd probably throw their inventions at each other, both realize the other is a genius who isn't any real danger to society, and probably end up getting along really well
And then they fuck
But they'd totally duke it out just out of good old villain-rivalry, no? I imagine them looking at each other like Pokémon trainers with the common understanding 'We gonna fight now'.
Megamind's tech is built for offense against an all-powerful being like Metroman. Gru has impressive physical capabilities but he's more like a professional thief.
There's also the fact that-while he's never done it-he still has the ability to just give himself Metroman's powers if he really needed to
Despicable thief? He did steal the moon
See this is why I say they would team up and fight a truly evil villain as opposed to actually fight themselves.
Good point
Are we talking about the original megamind or the fucking game-ad-budget megamind 💀
i was shocked to learn that gru was this powerful. Bro unironically could box minus one 💀💀
which Minus One? Godzilla Minus One?
@@Regigigas_YT I'm guessing so lol
@@framdeo1800 what you mean box he destroys that Godzilla and shin Godzilla
He absolutely does box minus one even though minus one fanboys would say otherwise
@@EddieCauseWhyNot would the shrink ray not being a win con with them gru just stepping on minus one or just turn him into a ice cube
to be fair Gru is kinda insane, Megamind can't exactly pull of the physical stuff that Gru can.
He beat a guy stronger than gru
@lilcrust3063 who Titan? He didn't 1v1 him in hand to hand combat
@@daviddimitrov3696 yeah I’m aware of that. I’m saying that physical strength barely matters in a fight like this because megamind has taken down a being far more powerful with his brain.
(I am not arguing that megamind is physically stronger than gru)
Megamind threw a gigantic robot the size of a building several hundred feet into the air and survived it falling and crushing him into street. Look up the “button of doom” short if you want to to see it for yourself
@@peterstoric6560 It's a suit-specific feat
In the Despicable Me game, Gru can use a Magnet Gun, which has the capability of disabling robots/machines
I feel like that's a hard counter against Megaminds contraptions, but idk, finding info for the DM game is honestly pretty difficult so I might be remembering it wrong
He could just build everything out of copper XD
You can find it in a *different way* ... That is, if Nintendo didn't cause more damage then good, and took the DM game alongside it or overall somehow not there anymore. Same goes for Megamind's case, let's not forget that he too has games!
Megamind also have a magnetism device (newspaper momeent)
The only thing I know for real, is that they know *("PRESENTATION!!!!!")*
Y you do a Metal Gear and Despicable Me reference in the same comment?😂
@@mig4868 Yes, yes I did, mate.
Memes! The DNA of the soul!
@@genesius624 A SOUL CAN'T BE CUT!!
@@RedLSBtheTitaniumStormBut it can be Split in two!!
I think the reason that we thought Megamind would win is because Titan is much scarier than all of Gru's villains.
Yet people forget about toon force.
You know... Just because an amped minion falls down when Gru kicks it doesn't mean Gru actually did any damage.. they don't weigh very much even if they're essentially indestuctible. In fact, the entire reason why minions were used for the serum is because their durability is obscenely high compared to any of the other characters, so they shouldn't be used for any durability scaling either
It’s like he needed more reasons for Gru to win so he started just being stupid
Also how is he moving at 95% the speed of light if he can’t hit the moons escape velocity
@@tinysandwitch343he said 0.95% 11:55
I don’t think you understand that evil minions can literally tank gunshots and nukes and gru was shown to be physically stronger then them
@@xavierlove9603 I'm stronger than a turtle. A turtle's shell can easily tank things that would harm me. Attack potency and durability are NOT interchangeable, and I'm tired of powerscalers pretending they are.
brainbots can totally be offensive. not only does megamind have over 100,000, but they have proven to be violent, as they have bitten megaminds hand several times. imagine what 100,000 would do to gru.
They also kept Tighten busy for a decent amount of time as well as causing an entire police force to surrender on the spot. That last one might have been more presentation than anything but I still think he underestimated the little guys in the video.
@@sluggishtermite6333 yeah, they are pretty powerful and shouldnt be underestimated
I don't think Megamind perceiving Metro Man while their both flying through space in the opening should even be considered a feat, this is because of relativity.
Both Megamind and Metroman's spacecraft are moving at similar speeds, and while yes they may be moving potentially faster than the speed of light relative to an outside observer, relative to either Metro Man or Megamind, the other would be only moving a few meters per second, and therefore it would be easy to perceive the other.
To put it simply, if you're on a train moving at 100m/s (trains don't go that fast, but work with me here), and you see another train moving along side you at the same speed, you'd be able to see it, point out details of it, or even react to something someone is doing on the other train, however that doesn't mean that if you were on the side of the rails and that same train went by at 100m/s that you'd be able to see or react to it beyond a blur, the same thing applies to Megamind and Metro Man here, because they're going at the same speed, it isn't relevant for perception.
Thank you for coming to me Ted Talk.
10:11-Gru fighting minions doesn't make him more durable.The minions are durable but have no attack potency to scale up to that.
Gru’s AP scales to the minons durability and that’s all that matters
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But it doesn't.That's the point here.
The minions are knocked away,but not actually hurt.
Durability isn't AP lmfao
If you have enough minions, thanks to their indestructibility it does equate to attack potency
Does chewing up a car in moments count for AP?
Megamind seeing Metroman as babies in the ftl pods isn't any sort of feat, they are both going the same speed in the same direction so their relative speed is super low...
also they don't have to be going light speed to escape a black hole since they aren't past the event horizon, so saying that they are going faster than light isn't necessarily correct
No prep time: Gru
With prep time: Megamind
Yeah adds up honestly and fits well with the tone and characters of each movie.
Surprised there isn’t a death battle video on this yet
There was a pole to see what death battle matchup should be a video and this mu was on it, (it lost though)
Well Death Battle’s dead, so too late.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosThey'll be back. No news as to when though
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios rn the team is looking for companies to buy the show
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosnot anymore
That moment when you consider the "Rule of cool" to be as factual as physically possible, thus rendering human characters as super-human for no other reasons than "Math checks out."
Honestly Gru having the literal invincible minions is enough, just give em powers like in the forth movie and they win. If not even a giant rocket can scratch em, he wins no shot.
Megamind has a whole lot of non-damaging crowd control options that would totally work against the minions though, even if it's just something stupid like holograms to distract them.
Literally just put them in the ocean or in space, I can think of a dozen ways and if I can think it megamind can
@@ThatGuyRNAminions were first born in the depths of the ocean and they can even survive in the moon and mars without oxygen, though
@@zeldris_zezinho the intent isn’t to kill just to get them out of the way
@@ThatGuyRNA well, you didnt specify it though.
Good work my friend, another banger!
As for other potential matchups, I think a matchup with King K.Rool would be neat to see one day!
But, doesn't Gru also receive knowledge of Megamind? Surely he would possibly create a technological weapon capable of capitalising on megaminds weak points, such as a emp?
Gru didn't create sh-t
@@DeterminismisFreedom Obviously he doesn't need to, Gru is a nepo-baby, he has people working for him because he is simply too rich, and he can also just steal any weapon that will give Megamind the edge, Roxanne alone was able to find Megamid's lair fairly easily, I doubt Gru wouldnt be able to find it the very same way they did to that shrink ray when Dr. Nefario couldn't make it, he's a master thief before becoming the greatest villain of all and before becoming a top ranking spy
Eve if he did. Megamind would probably work around that
What if batman was in the boys?
Which version of Batman are we talking about?
the boys would join batmans team
batman would take his own v
homelander would be losing a 1v1 against batman after he takes his superman v
he summons alfred
alfred kills homelander
batman finds a way to remove the v so he can beat the v out of every supe with a challenge
he takes down vought
universe saved
im joking i dont fucking know all i know is alfred is op
🫵
@@TrashCanOdorprobably comic version
@@TrashCanOdorif not comic, zack synder batman
What is this idea? explain which version, or are you going out for the poplar one if you're going off of the show then which Batman are you using? like there is so much popular versions of this man
Megamind could give himself the powers of tighten and likely make it better than what was given to Hal.
what a truly despicable villain
My favorite part of that… is he says the brain bots with killer teeth aren’t offensive and cannot attack
I knew Gru was underrated but this is actually kinda crazy,legit didn’t expect him to be this powerful
If we are getting really serious. The shrink ray would actually make the moon less “heavy”, it would just get denser meaning the moon would have the same mass. So technically you could say that Gru held the ENTIRE moon, with no difficulty mind you.
This is dumb
No lol he did not
@@joshuacollins9316 did too
@@CurryToaster did not
@@Neeyaw you havent watched the movie then
Eggman vs Gru would be wild.
Illumination and Dreamworks need to collab and do a Gru vs Megamind movie
We all know that if they did that then neither of them would win and would end up teaming up against another stronger enemy
@@metal_pipe9764 that could be good too, because realistically they would probably get along
Universal owns both of them, so making a collaboration wouldn’t be too hard.
@@JunkieRemixespecially because they have similar character arcs, going from villains to heroes due to new positive influences in their lives
Thought Despicable Me 4 was exactly that
Don’t forget that Megamind has Metroman’s DNA on standby. If all else fails, he can shoot himself with it and become a demigod
3:38 Schafrillas in shambles
I feel like megamind perciving metroman at FTL isn't actually impressive. He was moving at a similar enough speed, so the relative speed was actually rather low.
Yeah a lot of the claims related to reaction/perception time didn't really make any sense. That's the most egregious one, but the whole section about Vector being able to react at relativistic speeds, and then being surprised Gru could dodge his missiles, therefore Gru has relativistic reaction time and speed, was all just a huge stretch that doesn't make any logical sense.
@@KingNedyaHe's been doing this shit since forever, people just now noticed since people overwhelming want the same character to win
@@KingNedya The whole dodging laser guns in general is a bad speed feat because in reality the character doesn't need to be faster than the laser, they need to be faster than the guy who's shooting. You don't react to the laser, you react to the guy pulling the trigger.
@@sort6726 I haven't watched this guy's videos before, this is an issue I've noticed with pretty much most power scalers in general.
@@catalin2766 This too. I was actually originally going to include a comparison to dodging hitscan weapons in FPS games via predictive movement, but I didn't want to bloat my comment. But yeah dodging laser weapons or lightning equating to light-speed reaction time and speed doesn't make much sense, except for certain scenarios. Like dodging natural lightning which is automatically attracted to you and you have no reference for intent, aim, or timing would probably equate to that, but with a person you can take advantage of their imperfect aim, especially if there's some sort of tell that they're attacking like throwing their hands forward or opening their palm or something.
If megamind had enough time to put on his mega man suit or set up his multi-continental laser this wouldn’t even be a fight
with enough prep time Megamind could defeat everyone
Even in combat, Megamind is still quick to come up with stuff under pressure
@@kociarzultimate384Even gojo?
@@blaster.m1943 you aware what I said is a parody of what people say about Batman
@@kociarzultimate384 batman didn't invent preptime
I think Vector would honestly be a way better opponent for Megamind, as they're WAY more similar, neither are considered real hand-to-hand threats, both are very threatening with their technology, both are geniuses, both could technically destroy a city with the amount of firepower they have
Was not expecting the outro verse on this platform we call youtube, but I will be glad in it, got my sub
Yo, I am majorly inspired by u. Keep up the work brotha
There's no way you thought you could slip that one past us 😂 7:44.
That song will never be forgotten lmao.
How frickin powerful was that honey badger Gru was up against?
he even tanked the tranquilizer that was supposed to put that badger to sleep
Despicable!
Very cool. I forgot that Gru dabbed on missles like that. Just hoping on em. Wild
Despicable
Great analysis. I didn’t realize Gru got that high, I always assumed he was only in the building to city block range.
idk if meant too but he snuck in that "Happy" pun when he said it "might seem crazy im bout say" idk if it was intentional but if was i caught it 🤣
You forgot one thing to mention, megamind has giant robots and guess what gru loses to giant robots not to mention that megamind was also able to tank getting crushed by said robot and beat titan that can destroy whole city's, so overall megamind wins
Honestly titan alone is a avenger level threat if you put him in despicable me he was based on metro man.
I mean if support comes in to play gru has a minion in the new movies that lasers through the planet like butter go viral ng grue support equal to planetary plus
He forgot about the shrink ray
7:42 I understood the reference.
Atleast I think you were referencing it.
I think if we wanna make this fight as interesting as possible we give Gru his estimated 2 million-ish minions and Megamind the same amount of his brain bots
The Minions are immortal, but the brain bots could fly.
the only thing that comes to everything is Megamind's ridiculous hax and feats vs Gru's capabilities.
Megamind fought against Titan, who's a literal 2nd coming of Metro Man who can SUPERSPEED to stop time basically and that superspeed is already a universal feat. Given Titan might not know how to use it since he's acquired Metro Man's power just too recently, but he was trained by Megamind to enhance these powers so he's still a super formidable foe that can blitz through Despicable Me's world since they lack actual superhero feats that can go toe to toe against Titan. Sure they have the "tech" for it, but it's not limited to extracting the power off Titan since it needs to actually touch him.
Gru on the other hand just had better capabilities throughout the movies. he was the best supervillain of his era, revered by everyone in the underworld. he might have changed sides, but he's still a capable inventor/supervillain. he's fought numerous mind boggling villains and giant robots, but nowhere near Metro Man level. the strongest he fought is probably the main antagonist on the 2nd movie since he was enhanced by a super drug to get stronger. since then, there's nothing much to actually say that Gru isn't nowhere close to Megamind level, but he's near.
in 1 vs 1 scenario, I think Megamind would take the cake because of feats alone, but Gru is through and through a capable fighter and supervillain. Megamind can construct DNA from a literal super hero whilst Despicable Me lacks thereof, meaning Gru's universe is probably in lower ranking compare to Megamind and what he fought against. it's the matter of his ridiculous hax that Megamind would win against Gru. In a sense of avoiding argument, Megamind can literally give Metro Man powers to HIMSELF and blitz through everything. Gru wouldn't even be able to steal his ray to reverse its effects because at that time Megamind would have been equally as strong as Metro Man and destroy said ray and mop the floor with Gru.
but in blitz scenario, Gru would beat the living f out of Megamind. Megamind is nowhere near capable in fighting so is Minion.
Please never cook again
1, while yes metroman was moving massively faster then light, it is not a universal feat and there's no evidence that time actually stopped. 2, titan is NOT as strong as metroman, or even on the same level, if you use the dna he got from metroman's dandriff and compare that to metroman's entire body, that means metroman is 275Billion times stronger then titan, and even if you don't want to use the dna thing then titan still only has a single at or faster then mach 1 feat while metroman was moving massively faster then light casually.
The 'feat' of them flying near each other and perceiving who is in the the pod isn't impressive when you consider that they're moving at a similar rate and in the same direction. yeah i can see the guy in the car next to me perfectly fine too my dude...
Yeah but they were going way faster and were a lot farther away
He literally said its only his perception, not his reaction, and this isnt even a good debunk, sure them flying at the same speeds helps so the shop stays in his line of perception, but hes still perceiving it, meanwhile Metroman casually blitzes an older Megamind's percept while right in front of him, right in front of his eyes, meaning he is clearly faster than the ship
Regardless, from what you said an older metroman speed blitzed an older mega mind, that's a power scaling on metroman and thats fine. But 2 pods moving in unison in the same direction wouldn't need enhanced powers of perception to look to the right of them.
When you are in a train and you look across the aisle at your friend sitting in the opposite side, you don't need to perceive him. Yes they're in the same vehicle, but say there's a train next to yours going the same way same speed, it would be like looking at your friend sitting across from you...
I think the reason it's meant to be impressive is because it should be impossible based on physics.
To see something you need light to bounce of it then hit your eyes, but if both things are moving at near light speed with a decent gap, there shouldn't be time for the light to bounce between them.
There's also red-shift and other wacky relativistic things.
Relativity is weird so i might be wrong.
Did this guy just say anything with ionizing radiation is as strong as a nuclear explosion?
Megamind could dehydrate the Minions and that's it.
Gg
Doesn’t it fire just one at a time? They’d overwhelm him very quickly.
@@HungryWarden it was shown to be able to hit 4 people at once if they're grouped together, so he could likely dehydrate thousands of minions at once
7:43 i love how he is saying it to the tune of the song
Most creative one yet
I need a FFA thunderdome between Gru, Megamind, and Dr. Doofenschmirtz
I'm Surprise death battle never picked up on this considering that the fourth despicable me movie is coming
I thought death battle stopped not long ago
@@shinyrayquaza9temporaraly
...such a shame, isn't it
Alien Villain Vs. Supervillain 1v1 Analysis in this Video is Epic one
This matchup was truly... DESPICABLE!
Could you do Eggman vs Gru, I want to know which slight obese bald guy would win in a fight
Sugestion to next video: What If a juvenil Skull Crawler was in Peter Jackson Skull Island?
I kinda keep forgetting that Gru is mathematically one of the most powerful fictional characters in general media.
I think the reason he doesn’t use the dehydration gun on MetroMan or titan is there to fast to be hit by it if it hit Bruno do think it’s end the fight
But one thing is like to mention is that megamind doesn’t believe the death ray to be able to kill MetroMan yet he does believe his suit to be his equal
Megamind also has access to time travel and a portal gun he could just kill infant gru
7:43 Is this line a reference to the happy song in Despicable me 2
request despicable me villains ranked weakest to strongest
De-hydration gun VS Freeze ray
Never thought about this fight, but this seems interesting 🤔
7:43 nice tie in with the music of DM2
it would be despicable for you to talk about the indoraptor vs the xenomorph
I have no hopes a normal grunt xenomorph would win
7:44 I like that reference
The fight that no one asked,W vid tho
Look up Gru vs megamind in Google and you will find out a LOT of people want to see these two fight
Idc about the vid anymore, 8-bit smooth criminal is such a funny and accurate choice tbh
If this is a fight to the death than megamind absolutely wins this. Gru doesn’t really have the capabilities to beat him.
I can imagine the dehydration gun and freeze ray beam battling, while the minions and minion-bots clash. Would be quite the fight, as they've both got plenty of gadgets that would make things interesting. It wouldn't be one-sided, but unless Megamind has prep time, Gru would wear him down and win.
We already know Megamind is more about presentation than Gru. I feel his death-ray “full concentrated power of the sun” statement was just that, presentation.
However I think the TRUE deciding factor for this fight would be the situation they were in. Because Gru may have better feats, but he can only seem to draw them out when those he cares about are in jeopardy. Megamind only ever kidnapped Roxan and fought Metroman for attention. He even admits he never thought the death-ray wouldn’t work on metroman. So I personally think it comes down to who goes too far the first. The first one to put the loved-ones of the other in danger loses.
Knowing that the human body contains 60% water its disapointing that the cubes are tiny, they should be about 40% of the initial mass, but it guess it would look gross
Great Video! Despicable
I like Both Characters, I think they would get along!
I love ur content! U are an actual not annoying powerscaler, u actually make sense!
Oh i wonder what your thoughts are on the el macho volcano feat. Which would be around city level
Fun vid, quite Despicable
7:43 who else sang it?
Were eatin good today
This was a potential death battle idea that many would had heavily enjoyed if it was made.
You WON’T do Mega minions vs the seven lil bro 😭🙏
You should do Show HomeLander vs MCU Spider-Man. That’s another hot debate I’ve been seeing
Could batman solve the kira case?
Yeah he can easily
Just read a few batman comics
Yeah batman can do it on his lunch break probably
it would take him like 5 minutes
This has been answered years ago, Yes, Batman can easily solve it.
Someone created an edited clip recently on youtube where they took out the inner monologue on L and Light whenever they encounter each other, Light really sounded like the suspect/ perpetrator to a point that it wasn't even a game of outsmarting each other anymore, Light without an inner monologue literally sounds like a 13 year old that is very bad at lying
I was really hoping for Megamind to take the W.
What a _despicable_ outcome.
7:41 nice touch
It might seem crazy what I'm about to say
Sunshine she's here, you can take a break
I'm a hot air balloon that could go to space
With the air, like I don't care baby by the way
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
Here come bad news talking this and that
Yeah, well, gimme all you got and don't hold back
Yeah, well I should probably warn you I'll be just fine
Yeah, no offense to you don't waste your time
Here's why
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
bring me down
Can't nothing (happy) bring me down
My level's too high (happy) to bring me down
Can't nothing (happy) bring me down
I said
(Happy, happy, happy) bring me down
Can't nothing bring me down
My level's too high (happy) to bring me down
Can't nothing bring me down
I said
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
bring me down
Can't nothing (happy) bring me down
My level's too high (happy) to bring me down
Can't nothing (happy) bring me down
I said
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you
Because I'm happy
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do
@@gdubs276 bit to much but 👍
Don't forget about Minions being described as 'indestructible', in the movies seen to be able to take bombs, fall from absurd heights, etc...
heisei vs godzilla in hell please do it
Tf is heisei Godzilla supposed to do
The Bald Titans clash!
Vs Suggestions:
1. All Might(My Hero Academia) vs Invincible(Invincible)
2. Pennywise(IT) vs Freddy Krueger(Nightmare on Elm Street)
3. Darkseid(DC Comics) vs The Entire Mortal Kombat Verse
4. A-Train(The Boys) vs Quicksilver(MCU)
In my opinion
1.) invincible wins
2.)pennywise wins
3.)darkseid wins
4.) A-train wins (only if you count him dodging star lights lasers if you don't then probably quicksilver wins)
Unless you are using beginning of series Invincible from the show All Might is cooked.
Nah it should be pennywise vs Mary Poppins. They’re the complete opposite
In a fistfight Gru wins. but otherwise Megamind mogs him.
It's good to see how these two characters solo several characters and even lines we know.
Another interesting confrontation would be between the protagonists of the franchises:
**Adventure Quest & Dragon Age**
I need a death battle animation of this
Assuming Gru gets intel on Megamind, but Megamind doesn't even know Gru is after him (which would be what's happening based on the scenario) I genuinely think Megamind is just going to get his skull crushed before he can win
But that is already giving Gru an advantage
If it was an arena fight 1v1 with their inventions MM would wipe Gru out
@@maninhu9837 Gru will win simply because he has toon force, also Gru's Physical feats out scales Megamind ang his tech weapons, Bro dodges missiles and lasers matrix style at ease
Despicable.
Very nice video, i love your analysis.
If Gru got all of his minions Megamind would potentially get wiped, based off of the movie poster there are 10,400 minions (although the universe does not confirm how most of those got there considering Gru started with much less and minions canonically cannot reproduce) and while Megamind would be able to easily take 10,400 toddlers. we have to understand that the minions are practically immortal, they show nearly no signs of aging and seem to take no real damage, they seem to either not need oxygen at all or need very very little, they can take seemingly any amount of damages, and have no real weaknesses. so if you were in a battle with basically 10,400 immortal toddlers you would seem to win the fight, until you get tired and all your weapons and tools wear out. so not even considering Gru's stats Megamind will most likely end up getting wiped (under the circumstance he doesn't get prep time of course, with prep time it is possible he could find out some way to get rid of the minions, but without prep time he'll just get tired out and then lose).
I’m sure if he can buy himself some time, like by using the light show to distract them, he could mass dehydrate them
@@ThatGuyRNA This is what I'm thinking too, taking out the minions wouldn't be hard with the dehydration gun and having his brain bots to stall them and or any other of his bots.
@@ThatGuyRNA well, we could determine based off of the movies that physical attacks don’t work on them, in fact the only “attack” that I can remember working on them was the one where it turned them purple, based off this information we could determine that the minions can’t be dehydrated into cubes because that would alter their state.
@@ThatGuyRNA we don’t actually know how the dehydration gun works but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that dehydrating someone would fall under the category of physical attacks (as you’re basically ripping away the water from their body) and the minions have been shown to be practically impervious to any physical attacks that renders themselves “damaged” in any way (other than the purple minions which was a different type of change) so I really don’t think the dehydration gun would work on them with them being as incredibly resistant to any kind of damage as they are.
@@Lookster2008 *shows example where it changed their form*
And that’s why their form can’t change
I thought this would be a slam dunk for Megamind but then I remembered that Gru has an army of indictable minions.
3:09 Please for the love of all that is holy never use the word “poopy” again 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You know you have an entertaining matchup when different scenarios and circumstances of the two characters fighting can lead to drastically different outcomes where both have a good chance of winning depending on what happens before the fight, even if one is technically stronger than the other.
How the fight ends:
Gru: You were a good villain, Mega, just not a super one!
Megamind: That's supposed to be my line!
Gru ends Megamind.
EXCELLENT WORK. GOJI CHRONIC MEGAMIND VS DESPICABLE ME AWESOME!
Even with prep time, Gru would just steal any weapon Megamind has as he's a master thief at heart