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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2024
- Is James Bond dead? What is the current state of Bond after Barbara Broccoli said, work hasn't even begun on a new film? With Bond dying in the last film and fans all across the globe waiting for some kind of news of their hero returning, the tone in social media comments has started to shift. Are Bond fans behaving like they're entitled to another installment in the franchise?
Together with my guest, fellow content creator Jeroen (a.k.a. DutchBondFan), I will explore these questions in detail and share opinions on where we see Bond heading.
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Looks like Skype had my build-in mic selected by default instead of my proper mic you see in the shot, judging by my audio. Sorry about that. 🙈
But in any case, thank you so much for having me Benjamin! A pleasure and looking forward to next time!
It was a pleasure for me, thank you so much for being part of it! I'm very much looking forward to more, indeed!
Been a Bond fanatic since the 60s. It really makes me sad and, frankly, a little angry that there is nothing in the pipeline. I miss my 007 fix.
I can fully relate to that! Really hope, this will all take a turn to the good with time
Excellent discussion with lots of great points that reflect how so many of us feel.
Being James Bonds Joe Darlington was one of the few fans who actually liked the ending of NTTD and he did make a great observation.
He basically suggested that - to the Bond Producers -
that terrible ending was a REAL ending for the James Bond franchise for now.
They meant to kill him off and then just take a long long break.
We did not want to see that but maybe that’s what’s really going on.
Here we are all excited and anxious for a new Bond film while the creators are apparently not even working on anything.
Or even interested in the character anymore.
As fans - it’s hard not to get angry at this.
And at this point I really would love to see them sell to someone as excited about James Bond as all of us fans are.
As you pointed out-
When they said
“ James Bond will return” at the end of NTTD
it was a promise from the filmmakers to all of us fans not to worry because we will see Bond again very soon.
So now it seems like a false promise - which is why we are so disappointed and frustrated at what is going on.
But it also could be something else -
Maybe since they killed him off, they just have no idea what to do next!
@@johnrigs6540 In my opinion Barbara Broccoli in fact hated Bond and the success her father did with it. She looked for a way to destroy the Franchise. With the Daniel Craig movies you can see it from the beginning. She stripped part by part the Bond things the fans loved. At the end no Bond girl, no Champaigne and the people around Bond start dying. Broccoli has no intention to start over with Bond. All her statements are for winning time until nobody asks anymore. May be there will once a sale of the Franchise but then it is only half the worth of it today. But obviously she has enough money to get over it and the fans.
@007Channcellor: Just picked up the second issue of Dynamit comics new James Bond story, Your, Cold, Cold, Heart from my local comic bookstore. So even without a new movie in active development, I have this enjoy. Also, the video game Project 007 from IO Interactively is still in production for a release sometime next year. Looking forward to playing a new video game since 007 Legends was a real let down.
I think she wanted to stamp her own legacy on the Bond franchise by serializing it and giving it 'depth' and soap opera moments throughout the Daniel Craig era. Unfortunately, she doesn't have the talent, genius or work ethic to create or reinvent a brand new genre. Unlike Cubby and Saltzman: two men who invented a new genre of cinema: the Bond film. The formula they honed worked for forty years so it should work for forty more. The producers seemed to have forgotten what made Bond work in the first place: formula. @@haraldsulzmann3893
As a Brit I'm looking forward to some blunt Dutch straight talking
You'll love my channel then lol
Thanks for this intelligent and perceptive discussion. So many comments I'd like to make. Instead I will just say this: somebody has to break this family's deathgrip on James Bond.
Absolutely, Barbara Broccoli has lost ALL interest in the franchise, I don't think she's got Craig out of her system yet, paying him disgusting amounts of money, making him executive producer and financing his theatre show.....
she did a thoroughly good job of deconstructing and shaming James Bond. M and Vesper excoriate him for acting like an idiot, he throws his best friend Felix into the garbage dumpster, M faces her murderer alone because her protector Bond is too busy fighting, he keeps dropping his gun, and so on. So many examples of how the character has been trashed, emasculated. Barbara Broccoli killed James Bond creatively before she blew him up, and Daniel Clueless helped her.@@peterfranks6243
Best comment on here 💯 % spot on
Thank God someone is talking about this!
Glad we could be of service! Thank you ✌️
It was truly insightful and refreshing. It is really hard to continue to be a Bond fan under the current circumstances. It's good to know that not all content creators are making excuses for Broccoli and Co. I have grown very apathetic about the franchise.
@@chadhetzelEspecially being owned by Amazon...rings of power ...yikes
If they had a direction to go with after NTTD they would have gone with it immediately. There can be little doubt that something has happened to put a wrench into the works, they only question is of course what that is. Best case scenario (perhaps) is that they genuinely have no idea what to do and they're just sitting around waiting for an idea to appear but in my book that's still called having a problem on your hands.
After the poor No Time to Die, the best way to reboot the franchise would be to return to the roots of the character and the novels. A gritty new adaptation of the Moonraker book with a period accurate 1950s setting would be welcome, if admittedly unlikely to happen today.
That would be the best way. But they used the titles 😂😂😂
I would like a cold war era Bond. Sean/Roger timescale.
It’s time for new blood in EON management. Barbara is going to run it into the ground. NTTD was a downer of a movie. It’s time to let someone who loves Bond and the franchise to step in make it something people can love again.
NTTD was a film for the first time as a fan not only was I disappointed but I felt betrayed. The crucial takeaway was Broccoli and Wilson subverted and killed Bond to satisfy the actor and themselves. Part of a long trend of de-masculinizing and toppling iconic male characters in general. Luke Skywalker, John Connor and Indiana Jones etc.
In our current cultural conformity, I can't see an authentic James Bond being depicted on screen again as he is seen by those in charge as misogynistic and "toxicly masculine"
I hope by some miracle I'm wrong but with how the franchise is being run they don't seem to care and I rather see the franchise end rather than it being ruined further. But everything pre Craig I will always be a Bond fan and hold will for ever hold dear.
I agree 100%. NTTD was a terrible mistake and it feels like a genuine finale to the series overall. I feel like any future Bond movies would be anticlimactic.
Totally agree, sadly I really think that this hiatus is like no other we've seen in the past, in terms of the motivations and agendas behind it, and blatantly apparent that they're simply easing us into a world without Bond movies.
I couldn't have said this better, myself. Unfortunately, you are dead right about this.
Very enjoyabe discussion with some very interesting points. It appears Eon wants to take its time for the next incarnation of Bond. They won’t do it until they feel ready, so there will be a long gap until 007 does return. Ok, they’re basically going to reboot the series, so they’re taking their time to plan that. Fine. But jumping ahead from there, once the series is rebooted, I wonder if the films will continue to have long gaps in the next phase of Bond films or will Eon be motivated to make them at a quicker pace when they decide on a new direction for the series. Will they have a renewed enthusiasm to make them or will 5-6 year (or longer) releases just become the norm for Bond movies?
You're worse than EON John.l9l...Waiting 100 years for you to make a new video on Bond.
Come on mate pop out a video, invite Babs onto it.
Krazy Kajeevie 😅😂
I saw OHMSS when it came out in 1969 in the theatre as a 5 year old and to be honest at this point I don't really care any more. EON doesn't seem to give a shit about Bond so why should I ? They couldn't even be bothered to release the complete series on 4K UHD for the 60th anniversary. I've become a fan of Mission Impossible so that is my substitute if Bond never returns. At least Tom Cruise respects and values the fans.
I remember watching the behind the scenes for NTTD. After DC’s last scene, I remember that Barbara was in tears and hugging Daniel. It seemed to me at that time, that she had formed a closer connection with him than she had with some of the others. I had a feeling that she was thinking (or gave the impression at least) of wanting to end it there and do something different.
I agree that if they really want to make it fit with the current narratives, that I would also call it quits with franchise. It is getting increasingly difficult to come up with fresh locations and that sense of romance, it can’t really get any grittier. I would personally like to see them go back to the 80’s or something, partly because I love the cars of that era so much.
Barbara cried when she was on the phone with Pierce, telling him that they had decided to move on without him. I am sure that she has a very close connection to both Brosnan and Craig. Everyone works so closely together on a film production of that scale, it's impossible not to feel emotion. But yes, Craig can be called her favourite. She said something similar herself multiple times.
Well if bond isn’t dead yet he is doing a very good impression of being so ! Eons business is making 007 movies and they have decades of doing so ! Now is the time for Babs broccoli to realise that Danny boy has left the building and get back to finding a new 007 and to start a new film
It was great to listen to this talk. There were mor information than in all these news around the Franchise and castings based on unqualified rumors. I'm just 70 and watched Bond movies since the 60s. My first one was "You only live twice" and the Bond virus was implanted in me. Then I started to see every Bond movie beginning with Dr. No. With the Daniel Craig Bonds I began to be more critical about the movies. It wasn't about Daniel Craig, it was about the story lines. Something changed in a way, like you guys said in your talk, to a more destructive story telling. Skyfall was for me a very good movie but I would never watch it today, when I want to see a Bond movie for entertainment. Then I go back to the Sean Connery movies, Roger Moore also Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan. Even knowing the movies and the outcome, at the end I have this smile on my face. And I like it when I here the Bond Girls saying "Oh James". I know it's not to say today but that is one of the small things to characterize Bond. Or when Sean Connery teaches the guys in "Diamonds are forever" that he knows there is no year for a Sherry but he can define the year of the wine where the Sherry produced from and the barrel. These little small things got lost more and more. NTTD was a good action movie but not a Bond. For this I can watch Mission Impossible, Burne Identity or the Jack Ryan seasons. I remember when I watched the Bond movies in cinemas, there were always parts in the movie where alle the people start laughing. In the Craig movies I never heard that. Bond had always a USP. If you take that away it's simply an action movie and there are better ones outside in the world. The Jack Ryan seasons would come closer to a Bond story in my opinion. But if the producers don't want all that and making experiments and cover the Zeitgeist, then it's better to end the Franchise here.
Thank you so much! I agree with everything you say. It is difficult to watch when the films we love become more and more generic action cinema.
I'd like to see a Bond film centred around Ian Fleming's fraternisations with people like Aleister Crowley, secret underground British and international occult circles.
that would go hard
Agreed a modern Live and Let Die.
Sounds very interesting. Bond Vs the Occult has only really occurred once before, and in the film it was half a scheme to keep the islanders under Kananga’s power.
I have lived through many years of having Bond movies released very regularly. This has been frustrating waiting so long, but I wonder if they have shot themselves in the foot and they don't know how to go forward at this point. Maybe they have run out of material they want to use and have to look into different writers and their material now. But we all do want different things for sure since we all have different tastes and viewpoints of existing Bond movies. Can you imagine getting 10 Bond fans in a room and trying to decide which Bond movie to watch? LOL. Nice discussion!!!
In every possible case, there will be a huge time gap between NTTD(2021) and the next Bond film. Maybe like it was between LTK(1989) and GoldenEye(1995)...
Eh we’re almost there. Filming wrapped in ‘19 was supposed to be released in 2020 but you know…and now it’s 2024.
Thanks so much for this insightful discussion. It's cute how even people who never met the senior Broccoli call him by his nickname "Cubby." Perhaps it says something that his daughter isn't referred to with such a name ("Babs" or "Bobbie" would work for other women, but not in her case!)
Oh I frequently hear fans calling her "Babs" or "Babsie" 😄
Fantastic discussion. Lets bring back the fun! My most watched Bond films are not always the 'best' but they are the most enjoyable.... Tomorrow Never Dies, Octopussy, The Spy Who Loved Me and of course Goldfinger. My most watched is far from the best.... Diamonds Are Forever, it just makes me smile
I agree and I think the Broccolis are being a bit too precious about it. First, there plenty of excellent continuation novels they could adapt. Anything by Raymond Benson, Charlie Higson or Anthony Horowitz, just to name a few, would be amazing. All we want as fans is a good individual story, two good fight scenes, one vehicle chase, a huge stunt, beautiful locations and a stunning woman or two. That's it! That's all it takes. It doesn't have to relevant, meaningful or emotional. We had all of that with Craig, been there done that, time to move on and start cranking out some ripping good action adventures! See you in London at Q-The Music in October!
This was quite an interesting discussion. I very much hope that "James Bond will return "
Thank you! We'll stay positive and see what happens
I say they wrap it up. We had a good run. It was already straining it after they rebooted the timeline for Casino Royale. Now Bond's had a daughter and died... not much more to do with the character. The appeal of the character was his longevity. Having him potentially die now after each actor's tenure is gonna weaken the appeal.
Broccoli will never sell Bond and she doesnt give a damn the fans are waiting!! Youre sayin she should pass it on but why the hell should she? As i said she doesnt give a damn people are waiting. She has grown up privileged and rich and she does what she wants to do! Nepotism kids many of them are like this.
Great discussion Benjamin, hope you’re well , Rob
Thank you Rob! I'm good thanks...keeping myself busy and complaining, that my day only has 24 hours 😂
It’s not, but it looks like the producers are tired and not interested anymore. They should give it to people who still care.
Barbara Broccoli became far to engaged with Danile Craig as Bond. I fear she just can't see anyone else doing the roll now. Maybe she simply doesn’t want anyone else as Bond?
I do dislike it when fans make personal attacks on creatives in general and it really doesn't achieve anything. George Lucas said part of the reason he sold Star Wars to Disney is that he didn't want to make anymore as all he heard was negativity. Given Bond is a massive IP it will be back in some form [whether Eon do it or like Star Wars a new company buys the property] but all fans can do is wait and getting angry or upset isn't good for them.
Would be intrigued to hear your thoughts on the spin off novels where Bond himself is the subplot.
Thank you, I will keep that in mind! I'll make time to dig into them properly
if you have a franchise you are going to have to reboot, and you don't want to do that work for a few years, why not give it over to someone else with a fresh new vision? Best case scenario you have a very successful movie to build on, worst case scenario you have to reboot the franchise which you were going to have to do anyway ... if they had thought like this in 2019 / 2020 we would probably be discussing opinions on a new outsider Bond film by now. I think the answer is that the producers are too precious over the Daniel Craig era, and don't want to 'disrespect' it by making more movies so soon ... but for Bond fans the view of the era is much more mixed and we just see it as part of a longer cannon. we don't want to wait for every 10 years to reboot the franchise like is common with Ghostbusters or spiderman or whatever.
I agree. EON should just sell Bond to someone who still cares. Looks like Barbara Broccoli doesn’t.
@@kaukomarsu hand the franchise over to Christopher Nolan and his production company Syncopy.
They have constantly shown interest in Bond.
Just don't give it to Disney
I rather like the idea of total production denial, then - bam!!! A NEW film and a NEW Bond taking the fans by surprise with NO build up. Just like the old days. I'm frankly tired of trailers of films 12 months in advance or for films that haven't been made yet 😖😫😂
Why not just sell the rights to Bond to somebody who cares about the character and the legacy. Then ŵe can move into the next era full of enthusiasm.
Pick it up from Tracy's death....from that point you have plenty of possibilities
Diamonds Are Forever done right would be a start. :)
The producers are chasing Casino Royale perfection, so they are looking for that success with each movie.
I think they don't know what direction to take with the new bond film because of the political climate we live in
It be interesting to know what Amazon think about no bond film in development one of the biggest reason why Amazon bought mgm/ua was bond
I’d imagine they are not very happy about it. For sure they want their Bond films.
Benjamin, as usual another excellent video!
Bond is not dead….
However, I think it’s time for Barbara and Michael(Eon)to sell their part of the franchise. I’ve appreciated all they’ve done taking over from Cubby, but they need to get it to someone who wants to move forward and is excited to bring a new chapter to 007. One question I have is what about Amazon. They own half of Bond and you would think they would want to get a new film developed sooner than later.
I wonder if they will start applying pressure to get the franchise up and running again. And no more crap like that awful series they put on Prime Video.
Thanks for the great work and Keeping the British end up!👍
Yes, Amazon's involvement I completely forgot to mention 🙃 But it was on my mind during the discussion.
Broccoli will never sell!
As longer Broccoli waits for selling the franchise it's loosing value. I think Amazon is waiting for that and get it for a good price when Barbara Broccoli is tired and get nerved about all the questions. Then Amazon can set it up new, may be on their stream with seasons. This give the chance to start Bond from the beginning in a better sense of Ian Fleming.
Barbara Broccoli’s other film, maybe financial disappointments but maybe not artistic ones, many films that are no considered classic or greats have initially flopped on release.
I was at 2020 Casting a little while ago and the rumour I heard was that Barbara was holding off as Hollywood is going through its woke phase and she insists that Bond is a white male.
That is interesting. And I would not be a surprised as she tried to keep up in her father's steps.
That would make sense and it shows her sensitivity towards her product
I'm fully on board with that, because that is exactly what it is - absolute insanity which will hopefully die off very soon. Lunacy politics should never ever interfere with true creativity in popular culture.
I think 🤔 it's also that Amazon studios maybe pushing EON to flesh out other content for the prime video streaming service. Besides just the films. I don't think they're happy with Bond as it is.
You have just said that movies are expensive for the public to go and see at the cinema, that people are picking and choosing what they will go and watch. When I saw NTTD. There was only 6 of us in the theatre and it was opening day. Back when Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan were Bond. It was lines down the street to see it on opening day. We all walked out at the end of the film like that was it for Bond, that was the end of an era. It was a very somber feeling, kind of like going to a funeral of an old family friend.
I'm glad you talked about Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. I was very disappointed with that movie. Having the main villain as an AI was stupid, I thought. Also, Cruise looked old in the movie 🎥🍿 and I wasn't believing it anymore. They should have stayed with the concept/formula that they developed back with Ghost Protocol (My favorite Mission Impossible movie by the way). The concept that the IMF agents are a bunch of hackers, and criminals who are facing intergenerational prison time, but can avoid all that by being recruited into a covert intelligence agency. I've never heard of that before, even back in the tv shows. That seemed to make it less professional, kind of like Wagner Group using death row inmates in Ukraine.
Rumour has it they will do a retro Bond, perhaps set in the sixties. I can see that working for a while, but they can’t do it forever. Then what? Will Bond be resurrected from a remnant of his DNA? A bit of a stretch isn’t it?
Absolutely dead. For me, the last great Bond film was GoldenEye(1995). And the last good Bond film was TWINE(1999). The whole Daniel Craig era was a hell of a pain for me. The first 3 movies were tolerable/okay but the last 2 were quite terrible. Spectre(2015) & NTTD(2021) are the worst James Bond films ever! It was not James Bond anymore. It was "dirty", unglamorous, depressive... So, for me, the franchise ended with Brosnan in 2002. ***** I see no future for Bond. No one/nothing can surpass Connery and Moore anyway! Actually, there is one option. Make a film where 2024 Russia and its Terrorist Mafia Dictatorship is the main enemy! But I know that unfortunately they don't have the courage to do that..............................
I totaly agree with you. Looking at todays world, Bond has more to do than ever but as you said, they don't have the courage.
She just lost interest once Craig left. If he had wanted to continue she’d be all over it. She has a weird fixation with him.
I hate to say it, but I think Bond will be on ice for at least another ten years… maybe they should just sell the rights
If these films are "taking much longer to make now than they did in the past," my question would then be: why can't they just go back to making them like they did in the past? Real, practical effects and a slimmer bureaucracy resulting in efficiency, cohesion, less expense, and better aesthetic (i.e) more thrilling results. The John Glen helmed films, for example, were a well oiled machine. As for entitlement, I don't think we the fans are entitled at all. I suspect the main problem is that Barbara doesn't care about telling stories about straight, white men anymore, especially if it compromises her invite to the chic cocktail parties. Her loyalty to the brand is waning, if not dead. Thanks for a great discussion, fellas!
After giving some serious thought, there is a way to bring the Bond franchise back. When Daniel Craig joined they modernised and re-worked Casino Royale. So how about this? Modernise & re-work You Only Live Twice, make it so Bond isn't dead but seriously disfigured and the subsequent plastic surgery required would justify a new actor in the role. It makes perfect sense, it just needs Barbara Broccoli to show some enthusiasm.
You interviewed John Glen ?
I did many times, yes. I am in regular contact with him.
I know this may seem off but, John Wick to me laid the groundwork for James Bond to work in the future. He’s out to kill the people who dragged him back into a life he didn’t want. Sounds too simple to work. But the filmmaking behind it, from the direction to the outstanding combat scenes to the very simple, old school editing with minimal cuts and the actors actually doing most of their own stunt work, proved to me that there is still a huge demand for well crafted filmmaking in the action genre. Bond is no different. Why are Casino Royale and Skyfall constantly held as Craig’s best films? Because of all of those same reasons. Why are QoS, Spectre and No Time To Die not as loved? Partly because all of them are shallow and complex AND are direct sequels where as CR and Skyfall are stand alone. When the next Bond comes out, I hope that they go back to a more simple and deep story with an emphasis on good filmmaking from top to bottom, rather than trying to make each Bond their own stand alone universe where every film needs to connect.
Babs is now too interested in her little art house movie and theatre projects.
You know, the one's nobody watches or are aware even exist.
Bond needs a full time showrunner not a part time disinterested caretaker.
She will go down in history as killing the goose which laid the golden egg.
Spot on
@@thejamesbondshow9754 Cubby gave Babs specific instructions to not screw it up. What does she do? Screws it up.
As I have said elsewhere, never confuse no headlines for no developments. The amount of big film franchise producers who reveal big news about their projects on other people's red carpets is about 0%. And when it comes to non-Bond projects, box-office and monetary success is not why creative people do things. TILL was not a 'flop'. To me it is also a false equivalency to bring in MISSION IMPOSSIBLE for comparisons - although it is worth mentioning that the most recent film did not fare well and the next part is being recalibrated, so its success is not guaranteed in the slightest. Die-hard Bond fans - or indeed any franchise fans - do not make a film successful. Controversial statement I am sure. But a Bond film is an event made up of MANY audiences across the world. The success of BOND 26 will be made by folk who do not even notice what the title is called on that day that is announced.
NTTD failed because it was poorly written and came across as if it were put together by a committee. Instead of a consistent narrative they just had a pastiche of scenes that made no sense. Amazon needs to step in and buy out Broccoli. Many of the good things that fans loved in the Craig era were a result of Amy Pascal squashing bad ideas. Broccoli needs to move on.
The big problem for bond now is that nobody takes the UK seriously anymore.
I believe that there’s a little fear in making another Bond movie. They had a lot of backlash over woke elements making their way in to the films. Do they stick to the formula and give us a Bond the fans want or alienate us by bringing in modern sensibilities. With DEI running riot in all walks of life, especially media, we may never see a Fleming Bond again.
Do you think Barbara Broccoli is still hoping that Daniel Craig will come back after a break and make another one ? Maybe there's an idea that Bond didn't die at the end of the last one ? Lea Seydoux at the end of filming mentioned she would be available for the next one if needed , that can only happen if Bond survives ?
I don't think that will happen. It might be Craig not wanting to return. At some point an actor wants to move on I guess.
I do think it's wishful thinking on Barbara Broccolis part that after Craig has had a break from Bond he might like to come back and make a another one and end his tenure in a different way , although Mads Mikkelsen has also stated only recently that he'd like to see Craig return as Bond and end his stint as Bond properly and stated that Bond always survives and I believe he's a good friend of Craig's too outside of working together , it could be a reason though that Barbara states that nothing new is happening yet , she's biding her time
The next Bond film could be, NOTHING LASTS FOREVER. And this is a series that has lasted for over 60 years. Maybe It is time to put him to rest for now. Someone somewhere perhaps will want to make a Bond film that might be relevant to that person. Myself, I would be fascinated if they did make a period piece as these gentleman do bring up. One would be a 1950's LIVE AND LET DIE. Which I am sure could be different from Fleming's novel (have not read it) as it coud somewhat comment on the Civil Rights movement at the time, but with still a dastardly black villain.
WHY not just get an actor to do a one shot at least the fans get a film .
Second generation wealth ....
Compare Barbara with her father, the business he created, the background he was from. Hard work and devotion to its success became a self perpetuating family enterprise of which he was the padrone. It became no longer just about the money, but a reason for being and a context for the family dynamic.
For the next generation, with its own interests, of necessity different from that of the father, it becomes more akin to a perpetual wealth generator. All the better when prestige is attached to it. That way it becomes collateral in facilitating other, "more interesting" projects. Being the "Bond producer" will open every door. So no need to actually made them that often. The prestige and the power have already accrued ....
It is an interesting viewpoint and true to so many areas of business today. Thank you, I hadn't thought about it this way!
Nepotism. Its an old story but obvious. I dont know why more people arent calling her out on this. But she wouldnt listen anyway.
Bond is Dead, though from what I've read in very brief Bond news clips. I'm starting to believe Barbara Brocoli regrets this and is now thinking of a way to change it. Something tells me she'll offer Daniel Craig a massive paycheck to do one more film.
Are you concerned by lack of update around The next bond
Hope you don't mind a third post from me. Don't want to take over the message section!
In your 'who could be the next James Bond?' video you said James Bond is the world's longest running franchise. This is incorrect. The world's longest running film franchise is Godzilla. First Godzilla film made in 1954. The most current Godzilla film was last year: Godzilla Minus One.
No word on a Godzilla vs Bond film but you never know....
😉
Technically, even films about Wong Fei-hung are above that with 123 films between 1949-2018
Godzilla is the longest running film franchise still in production. 😉
The British comedy film franchise 'Carry On' produced 31 films compared to 25 Eon produced Bond films and the 2 rival films Casino Royale (1967) and Never Say Never Again (1983). However, the Carry On franchise ended in 1992.
If you like Bond spoofs I recommend Carry On Spying (1964). Arguably a more entertaining Bond spoof than Casino Royale (1967).
I've seen all the Carry On's but it's been a while 😄
When I was a teen in the early 70s I saw the Connery/Lazenby bonds when they returned to the cinema, live and let die was my first “new” bond, I went to every bond after that…I was okay with them taking on new trends (black spoliation, martial arts, space, etc) I loved casino royal but they have been going downhill when I heard about the last bonds woke issues I declined to watch…like Star Wars they are free to make their movies how they like and I am free to ignore them….a young bond set in the 50s or 60s would be interesting, like a mad men bond
Jeroen: You feel OLD?! You are a kid! 😄
Do I think Bond is dead as a concept? No absolutely not.
But you need a creative team that is committed to carrying on the franchise into the future.
They are about to sell the rights. Negotiations are probably in the works. They killed him for a reason. Therefore there is no telling how the future Bond will be like.
Off topic...
I saw your earlier video about the next Bond/Henry Cavill as the next Bond. I would suggest he's got zero chance. His two films with him starring as a spy - Argylle (2024) and Man From Uncle (2015) were huge box office flops. Cavill has zero box office appeal.
I accept movie stars are very few in number these days - the internet killed off the movie star - but even so, there's no financial incentive to cast a proven box office dud as Cavill in the role of Bond. Cavill was also not asked back to play Superman and quit The Witcher.
It would make far more sense to cast an unknown actor with no prior box office failure 'baggage' because
A) cheaper to hire than an established actor trying his best to get a high salary.
B) no prior audience association with a well known role.
C) no poor box office history.
You don't need a huge star (not that there any huge British film stars anymore, there are none) but even so, you don't need one to get people to see Bond. The hype for Bond 26 will generate box office. Henry Cavill won't generate any hype. Had he been a proven box office actor - if Argylle and Man From Uncle had done moderate box office - then considering Cavill would make economic sense but those films were emphatic box office failures so there's zero evidence Cavill would generate any enthusiasm from film goers. Same is true about Idris Elba. Has zero box office appeal. Never had even a moderate box office hit as leading actor. Eon could find anyone, a new George Lazenby, with zero prior acting experience. It would have zero negative impact on the film's box office.
I'm convinced that a rather unknown, unused face will be cast as the next Bond. I don't think the lead actor is necessarily the reason why many films bomb at the box office. There are many factors at play why people choose not to watch a particular film in the cinema. The trailer for Argylle didn't exactly make me yearn to go to the cinema. Not because of Cavill, but because I had the feeling that the film is similar to others and the CGI effects looked weird. As much as I like Matthew Vaughn, I gave this one a pass and will wait for streaming. Multiply that by x and you get our modern problem why films flop.
Of all the new films I watched in 2023, I only went to see four in the cinema. And even then, my experience was ruined by people not knowing how to behave in cinemas - talking loudly, eating tons of food like it's a restaurant, using their phones with full screen brightness. It's not fun anymore.
Yes, talking in the cinema is annoying and selfish behaviour. Also when people keep going to the bathroom. 🤭
Trying to go to the bathroom was what I tried to do during Napoleon 😂 Almost impossible with the new lounge seating
Connery FOREVER
If the next Bond is going to be a woke Bond, then better they don't continue.
Then it will cease to be Ian Fleming's James Bond.
I've been saying that for years. Your statement is 101% correct.
They already made a woke Bond in the latest novel On His Majesty's Secret Service. Bond the villain in his own story.
@@treadstone1970 The movies ceased being Fleming's Bond a long time ago.
This word 'woke' what the hell does it mean?
What the hell is a woke, Bond?
The next bond will most likely be woke, I don't want that. Anyway, as a life long Bond fan, I was born in 1959, the Bond franchise has had a good run with 25 Bond films so why not let James Bond R.I.P.
This is different. James Bond died. James Bond is dead. You can reboot 007 with different actors, but not a dead Bond. They should now create another fictional character to portray the MI6 007 agent. You just need some original thought like the creator of James Bond had. Come up with another cool name with a different personality as the new 007 agent. And/or make MI6 and the 007 agent the focus instead of only one particular man as 007. Look at how MI6 actually functions to preserve the status quo. Bring back the fun megalomaniacal world conquering villain. Like in The Spy Who loved Me and Moonraker. Only this time the bad guy wins, his or her vision for the future gets realized. MI6 fails to prevent change.
Absolutely sick of the “modernising” (read: wokifying) of Bond and all that is escapism. These films are meant to be sophisticated but still “a lovely bit of nonsense” as Guy Hamilton once said. All this wokifying has squeezed every last ounce of fun, cheekiness, and character out of these films snd the last one was the worst so far. I would rather watch Diamonds are Forever 10 times over than look at Daniel Craig’s miserable face as Bond. Again, a lovely bit of nonsense. Nothing more, nothing less. That’s how they got through the first 40 years. Not broke, don’t fix.
Barbara and Michael G will have seen that the latest Mission Impossible film sadly lost at least $100M and be like 'do we really want to spend $400M (including marketing) on a film that needs to make nearly a billion to break even?'. Plus all this woke crap and destruction of classic characters they all seem to do now. Do we really need Phoebe Waller Bridge to be dragging Bond around on a leash in the next fim or whatever?
The fans must fight back. We can make the next Bond film. Time to wrest the hen that lays the golden egg from Eon's hands. I think that's the future and what Eon are waiting for
Bond fans are behaving like they're entitled to a nostalgic Bond film that returns to the lightweight Brosnan and Moore films that were often slapstick and bear little resemblance to modern-day entertainment. I seem to be the rare Bond fan who likes the character to actually change (in small ways. We want Bond to be Bond of course). Craig revolutionized the character and showed you can explore the man's psyche. EON, especially Barbara Broccoli, clearly loves this approach. She's been wanting to explore the serious side of the character for quite some time. Even with Brosnan, there were glimpses of depth, but it really took off with Craig.
The problem most Bond fans have is nostalgia.
I'm okay with change as it needs to happen in certain ways. I didn't like that they explored the "darker" side of Bond over five consecutive films and giving it the ending it has. But it was Craig's wish and giving so much creative control to the lead actor was also something I viewed as "debatable"
"Modern-day entertainment" is not the yardstick you think it is.
Bond n'est pas mort, on va découvrir qu'il s'est planqué et qu'il va être réveillé avec un autre visage...
@dutchbondfan you need to look into marketing 😂
Why is that? 😂
All the big franchises from back in the day are dead. Star Wars, Trek, Who, Bond - the time when free creativity ruled is over and until this changes we will never get what we used to. Sorry but them's the facts
Yes Bond is dead. He died in the last movie No wOke to die .
NTTD is so bad its 10x worse than NSNA.
Not a single redeeming thing about the entire turd of a film. Loathesome, boring, too long and zero plot. Just an absolute mess.
After seeing the last film, the WOKE killed the franchise.
Every Bond Fan knows this, but they are in denial.
What does woke mean? Because he acted like an adult male who wanted to protect his family? Because Q is gay? Because MI6 reflects a multi cultural Britain and a world where power is shifting to Asia? Because he isn't a fan insert?
Sadly, I would rather have no Bond than obnoxious apocryphal 'woke' Bond.
The last film was awful.
Time to call it a day. Bond is dead.
You can't bring back the Russians as the villains? Really? Is Russia too big a market for foreign movies to tick them off like China? 😝
They've lost it, NTTD is proof positive they did not have a clue or consciousness where they were! Too many hands in the kitchen and woke infected along with the wrong director. I think a re-boot from the sixties through the eyes of a Fleming writing a story about a man.....a la 'Last Night in Soho' genre would be just the thing to reignite the myth and put a smile on everyone's faces! Christopher Nolan IMHO is the only man for the job, no bubble head SJW woke broad director with a sex change agenda! Fail not you mofos!
Forget that Bond died. Make it all a big scam, that it was a cover-up. Problem solved. No need for reboots. Just continue on.
Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all
The bloody stereotypical "Jason Bourne" fans bash Bond at every opportunity but simply get riled up when they receive their own medicine.
There needs to be a gap between actors otherwise the new Bond will have similar backlash as Craig did when he took over from Brosnan. Figuring out what the new angle for Bond should be in a new era is hard enough without having boicot campaigns to the actor and negative press calling him unfit, bland or blonde. People will be more accepting of a new actor if they're hungry for a new film. MI doesnt need a palate cleanser cause the main actor is always Cruise
I remember the days well after Craig was announced. It was appaling behaviour by the press and audiences.