SO MUCH right...one thing less so｜Razer Panthera
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Razer has done it! or rather...they almost did it. There is so much right about this stick but there's one design point that may be a deal breaker if you travel a lot.
What do you think? Would you buy this or the Mad Catz TE2+?
This was my first stick. The good news is that you actually can change the artwork.The bad news is that it's a total pain to do so.
Sightless Senshi did you change it?
ZeroHart Not yet, but I've read up on how to do so.
Sightless Senshi I have the SFV version and would like to change the art... But it seems The only way to do it is destroying the current art
yeah I'm guessing you saw that video that shows how to... you can do it without "destroying it" but you need to be extra careful and patience with it and the risk will still be there. However you can order the parts from focus attack I believe... so even if you break it and for some reason you do like the razer original art you can print it over lol.
Yeah, you will likely fine the plexi and stuff at your focusattack/arcadeshock/paridicearcadeshop's. I am guessing that they gluded the art to the plexi?
*All over the bottom*
JUST THE BOTTOM
A L L O V E R T H E B O T T O M
ALL OVER THE BOTTOM
Open it up and play around with the insides
I glad he really liked
A L L O V E R T H E B O T T O M
I just got mine. I played on arcades before but i never really had a fight stick. I must say. THIS FEELS SO GOD DAMN GOOD.
Dude. I have this stick and switched the actuator to the Kowal 1mm oversized and kept the square gate and I absolutely love it. I also have the Hori Tekken 7 Pro with the octagon gate and Kowal actuator and I still love it even more than that. I love your channel dude
I just looked at my coworker and said "All over the bottom" with your expression on my face and he just about died laughing. Still has no idea why I said it.
I think it's actually better than the TE2. Unless you want to change the artwork like once a week, it has no disadvantage when compared to the TE2+. It feels a lot more solid and the plexi feels a lot more stable. You can also get it replaced under warrant should anything go wrong.
I'd love to see your opinion on the Qanba Obsidian or Dragon. Just got the Obsidian and love it.
If you want a tighter feeling stick, consider changing the spring that’s inside the stick. It’ll save you money
I'm over here with a quanba drone, while I'm drooling over these fightsticks.
You may already know but just in case, be sure to update your Panthera's firmware via your PC! It lowers the input lag pretty significantly. Love your videos, my friend, keep up the great work!
how to do that, sir? Please share
Share!!!
It's been two years, man! Don't keep us waiting!
Your fight stick reviews are top notch, I always refer people to these videos when deciding to get a Razer stick
Razer makes a sweet SFV version of this as well, these are $199 US on Amazon.
Your honesty in comparing the length of the hayabusa to the panthera is what makes the world of difference in your videos, you’re a content creator I can TRUST. Thanks for being genuine!
If you want more tension in the stick, you can replace the spring in it with something tighter. If you want that Korean stick feel you can replace the stick and put an 8-gate on the bottom too. I really appreciate that Razer package their sticks with bat tops.
you could do what a friend of mine did in his stick, he placed 2 springs inside the joysick so it was stiff as hell, the moment you let it go it bounced back to neutral super fast.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought the stick in his MadCatz TE2 was loose.
Weird thing is, I have a Venom/Mayflash I modded with Sanwa parts, same ones that are in the MadCatz and the stick on that feels stiffer, more like the one in your Razer, I would imagine. Maybe Sanwa just gave them a load of loose sticks...
Think I'll just swap them, maybe put a heavier spring in, to see how that works for me.
So the mayflash F500 stick can be mode using Sanwa parts? is it difficult to do...nebwie here 😅
I have this exact stick except it's the one with SFV artwork. I love it!
5:54 I think it's "clickier" because of the square gate it comes with.
I replaced the square gate with an octagonal gate and that clickiness/resistance definitely reduced, but my inputs definitely improved.
You should definitely do arcade stick reviews! And maybe a video about budget arcade sticks that are worth it for beginners and people who want to get the fighting game scene!
Also, collecting arcade sticks are VERY addicting. :)
Panthera is the best stick i used
Dang, that stick is clean. I didn't even consider buying it until I watched this.
Same lol, quite pricy tho thats like 200$ excluding shipping
It's so... *_SHINY!!_*
Mad Catz died but resurrected (sort of). I hope they continue making arcade sticks again
You do know the reason why these companies doesn't sell replacement parts is just so you can just go out spend a few hundred dollars on a new arcade stick and really building an arcade stick feels so much better as well especially since i grew up with the american style.
I have the first atrox from razer. It is well built for a first entering in arcade stick world, that beta testing on sf4 era paid off. But it got a plagued cable, as soon as warranty expired it started to fail, much in the way of Momochi's on that tournament final. The connector was proprietary and the cost for replacement was a steal. I found the damaged local, cutted it and put it to work again. As much as I think this panthera is beautiful, and maybe even improved in some ways, I'm having a hard time going for razer again.
this is very cool, they made it really easy to replace parts inside, if you want to change the buttons or the joystick.
i bought this a couple months ago and changed the artwork and buttons, i love it, ive had a Madcats Te and Hori Rap kai before
Judging by other videos I've seen you can replace the artwork as there are screw holes underneath the stock artwork. It's just more of a pain to remove the original due to the adhesive
You can also replace the artwork btw you just have to order a new plexiglas from focusattack or art's hobbies
I still have my MK Tournament Edition arcade stick. Love the padding on it.
Did you ever use it?
Good day to you. Hope you have been doıng . Never trıed ıt.
But would really want for them to make machınes dedıcated to fıghtıng games.
Thank you kındly for readıng and have a great month. Stay safe and take good care of yourself.
I have a TE2+ and my best friend has a Panthera, it's really weird but I can do stuff on mine that I can't do on the Panthera, I don't think it has anything to do with quality though, I think it's all just about what you're used to. Take it from someone who's been playing Street Fighter ever since there was a Street Fighter. *Do not change what your muscle memory has been trained on unless you see a dramatic advantage and are ready to work your butt off AGAIN.* It may be worth it but man you're gonna' carry that weight for awhile. Humility is good though. :)
don't forget to update the firmware, it should improve the average delay input of the panthera...
Good to know I'm not the only one that loves to own arcade sticks!
The reason your Mad Catz stick feels that way is the wear and tear on the spring, it happens. All you need to do is replace the spring and it feels just like the day you bought it.
I've been faithful to SANWA components upwards of 6 years. After using SANWA for so long, I've come to learn that the JLF stick sucks without modifications. I turn my own aluminium over-sized actuators, install heavier springs, short shafts, and lube the piss out of it with silicone. The SANWA OBS buttons have a recessed actuation point so I make my own pre-load spacers in order to take up the slop. The point is, SANWA does not deserve the praise they recieve.
You can mod the spring to be tighter.
oh also, if your stick feels loose, just open it up and literally pull the spring, like stretch it. pretty sure you can do this pretty much an unlimited amount of times until the death of the spring so its a good way to make sure your stick never goes all weird and sloppy feeling, might help with your te2.
and the artwork on the panthera CAN be changed, its just a lot of work.
razer actually have the screw holes in the stick as if they wanted it to have changeable art, but they just glued a plexi on top. you can get a replacement plexi (cause you'll probably snap the original plexi) from focusattack, if you manage to save the original plexi you'll have to drill some holes into it which have to be accurate so the replacement isnt a bad choice. as far as i know, saving the original artwork on the stick is pretty much impossible, so if you go for custom art on the panthera, you REALLY need to plan out what you want on it, although putting random drawings underneath is easy as and you can replace it almost simpler than replacing artwork on a te2 once you get everything done. might make for an interesting / fun video if you decide to replace the artwork.
also welcome to the razer club or whatever. hope you rubbed the stick all over the bottom.
Thanks for all the advice!
I got mine off in one piece, it just take a little patience and finesse
Just change the sticks spring for a higher tension one
I prefer the Razer foremost because the plexi top is more robust than the TE2's.
That being said in Europe you can get the TE2+ or TES+ more often for around 120 Euro which makes it the better overall investment vs the Razer's 240 Euro.
Wolfstein.3D i totally agree. I have te2+. in perfect world i’d have Panthera but i’m not willing to pay approx £75 more
Been following your channel for a while you baited me into getting a stick I literally got this stick keen to see your thoughts about it.
I got the atrox for a few years and love it.
This stick is underrated , out of the many I own it’s still one of my favorites from the feel of the buttons on the surface , to the grip to the easy access ps buttons l3, easy mod access door it’s perfect
heyyy, ive been watching your videos for a long time and trying to get into fighting games, finally got a razor panthera DBZ ed. as my first arcade stick, i was really lucky and got it for 100 euro what a steal, thanks for the motivation
Bought this as my second stick. My first was the HORI RAP4. The RAP4 is a solid stick, but I found myself dropping inputs on it from time to time on SFV, which does not have a high threshold for execution. Particularly on the RAP4, I found that the left/right on the stick had a minor dead zone. This made dashing someone inconsistent.
My Razer Panthera, on the other hand, is a significant step up from the RAP4, and the best controller I've ever used. It's absolutely outstanding. And of course I got the one with the SFV artwork.
You still using the same stick ?
Nice, i was wondering if it was feeling the same as the madcatz, now i know i need a panthera, since getting another madcatz its nearly impossible here, thanks :D
If you want your stick to feel different you should just change the tension spring and the restrictor gate inside, or just try changing to a korean level
Either way it's still cheaper than buying an entirely new stick that also uses sanwa JLF since it's gonna feel the same anyway
People need to stop saying that you cant replace the artwork. You can replace the artwork, just not as easily as unscrewing the plexiglass.
fair enough :) though from what I've seen the necessity for a heatgun takes it slightly out of general consumer reach. if it were just a set a screws then I'd classify it as "replaceable" artwork.
I love it! It's so easy to customize the buttons & balltop/battop. Unfortunately it's extremely difficult to change the art. I'm sensitive to light, so you make want to cover the razer logo. I also play at night. Lol.
I've had a Razer Atrox for the Xbox 360 for a couple of years now, and it's a very nice stick. This seems to be a follow-up to it, which is very nice indeed. I might get one of these at some point. ^^
Is your Atrox still working? what about the cable?
Still working fine to this date, no problems with the cable. Have at least some 4-500 hours with it by now.
Sunesen the atrox already had a follow up which is the atrox for xbox one, I'm pretty sure the atrox (XB1) is identical to the panthera except for the console that you can play it on
Pantera 10's the legend comes back to life.
Wow... That looks cool...
Though if I have one of those things
I still can't play SFV or T7 because I'm terrible at fighting games
One For All don’t worry I suck in smash. Despite the 300+ hours I sunk into the game.
you can buy as many arcade sticks as you like they always come with sanwa jlf joystick and sanwa buttons (exept hori) so no use trying to compare how diffrent they are as the only diffrence is the box and not the components.
I have a razer and te2+ the te gave me less issues , also you can tighten the stick spring with any Sanwa stick, you also can’t get razer replacement cables and custom cables that te2 takes cannot be taken from razer
Got this stick on Black Friday from Gamestop for a hundred bucks. Mostly picked it up because it's the best deal I'd ever get for a stick like that.
MadCatz went bankrupt a year ago, so that's why we have not seen any new product from them. The name was recently bought by one of the OEM's that made the Mad Catz devices, so we may see a new Arcade stick from them soon.
You can definitely change the art. There are even screws under the plexi for it. It just takes a heat gun and about 10 minutes of your time!
i have the razer atrox for my xbox.
its not my favorite, but it works. i stopped using it in favor for the same stick you showed for the switch, but the ps4 version.
This gave me some good insight on the Panthera! Looking forward to your new videos and hope for a review on the Qanba Obsidian. =D
You're like me dude. After I bought my first stick I couldn't stop. And I keep buying and customizing new sticks lol. It's an addiction at this point.
Man been loving these vids
when your arcade stick is named after your favorite metal band
That's cool that it comes with a bat top.
I have both and I prefer the panthera! I like how the buttons are spaced and the joystick is a little higher which I like too lol
Since DBFZ came out I haven’t touched SFV 😕
Yes !!
Shame sfv is the better of the two
Hmm...Don't recall mentioning which was the superior game
Didn't have to call him a dickhead.
if sfv is better than i will never touch dbz
The replacement cable from the mad katz modular game pad pro should plug right in
@NihongoGamer, thanks for the Razer Panthera review. I do have two questions, what is the gate on the arcade stick? Meaning is it square, circular, or octagonal gate? Also, can you tell if you are able to modify the gates?
If you want to get a tighter stick you can just change the spring to a 2lb or if you want it really tight 4lb
by coincidence I watched a review from a year ago on this. Then fell on this lol
Man I wish i had a arcade stick like this man😭 rip broke life
Damn that a21 fightstick looks sick.
It all started with MKX then injustice 2 then dragon ball fighters then blaze blue then guilty gear then dead or alive and now Tekken. I think it’s time for me to get a stick
Pass the parcel......where you pass it around (as kids) and when the music stopped you would pull off one layer......Until everyone was naked. Oh you meant one layer of wrapping that the parcel is covered in.......oh.
I picked up the SFV 30th edition of that Razer. The art on it is amazing, pictures don't do it justice at all.
Dont forget to do the firmware update on the stick. The panthera is one of the slowers sticks if you dont update it
The Razer is german.
The MadCatz is italian. Thank you, came for a review of razer's product and stayed for MadCatz.
Nah, exagerating but, that MadCatz.. I feel it.
you can just change the spring in the joystick if it's too loose
milkham since both has the same sanwa jlf maybe is a matter of how much shin-etsu grease you have in the pivot.
You can change the art work. It shows you in the manual. There’s just not many options. You’d have to make it yourself.
I LOVE THE PANTHERA SO MUCH! It’s what I use
Got it for $100 online on GameStop's Black Friday sale. No headset input and it has problems with SF5's legacy mode so I cant talk to my friend using a PS4 controller with mic while using the stick. Its works for a few seconds and then just stops and can get stuck in the last input. Its not Razer's fault because legacy mode works on Gundam Versus.
Nice, seems pretty much exactly like the Atrox except for PS3/4. Literally everything else is the same except the art being blue rather than green. Nice.
Perhaps you could get some arcade boards and make an entire cabinet but where do you fit everything in your apartment?
I just got mine and I absolutely love it. It's my first stick.
I suggest you try the Seimitsu LS32 and Seimitsu buttons, you're always buying new sticks, but Seimitsu make excellent components, fantastic sticks and buttons on the same level as Sanwa.
First comment on your channel so exciting ! I am a french fan so sry if I make misakes ^^ I also got a Penthera and I wonder if you are gonna buy some buttons on it because I will very soon and I dont know if you like to see the stick with nothing or with some little change on the balltop and/or the buttons ? Continue your amazing work and see you :)
I’m addicted to mods so I’ll probably change a few things here and there
I'm happy about it ty ! ^^
I have both the Hori and the Panthera. I prefer the Panthera for now.
The razer Pantera metal band 🤣
*i need those asmr compilations rn*
You should try the Qanba Obsidian. I’m curious on your take on that stick. I am also curious of how the size comparison will be between the Obsidian, mad catz, and razer
Only one thing I'd like to see them do is make it multi platform Xbox, PS4-3 & PC compatible, but everything being said I like it'
Does that resistance make your reactions ... razor sharp?
if you could imagine the quicker the stick can actuate its triggers and get back to a centered position the quicker you can switch to your next move, its fractions of a second but it matters.
edit oh and you can throw a 2 pound spring like 3 bucks and a oversized actuator 2 bucks in that sanwa jlf and make it so much better.
I applaud to your pun, very _acute_ of you!
My problem /w Razer sticks is the failure rate of the previous model. Hope this one lasts.
Actually this was very helpful because I need to get another arcade stick because it’s just so mush fun when playing on an arcade stick 👍🔥👍
This looks very high end compared to the Red one for the switch.
I'm still saving up for my first stick. Bad thing is I have no idea if they sell any sticks or spare parts over here in Indonesia.
2021, forget finding anything decent or premium. There is no stock. So its upgrade time for my Qanba carbon, 8bitdo stick.
I bet this bad boy is expensive af! We have a Razor store here in San Francisco and it's expensive af in that store lol
I'm becoming rather confused on what makes a stick valuable . Is it the buttons and lever is it the PCB or does it all boil down to case and customization . Because besides looks I don't really understand what makes a high end stick . Isn't a f500 with all sanwa or whatever parts you like equal to an expensive stick that has stock parts .
You can just buy a spring for stick for more resistance
I have a hori rap4, still getting used to it. Watching NCR and seeing how they push the panthera is making me wanna get it. Looks great. But interested to know what you think about the Qanba Obsidian? If you could review it and compare that would be awesome Nihongo. Great videos!
Nice vid, I really wish there was as much choice with Fightpads as sticks
Eastyy Yeah it irritates me. Like everyone speaks grand things about how good the Saturn controller was for fohting games. And yet nobody has ever done anything as good. The closest is the Fighting Commander. Yet its bulky and just totally misses the point. I just wish someone would make a thin, button-silicone-pcb, wide and precise 8 way directional pad just like the Saturn Pad. All these new pads have so much space from the outer button to the actual PCB and so have a ton of material needed to get input. That's why the Saturn pad is beloved. Because its the closest thing to not pushing buttons at all and just sending signals to the game.
I had the fighting commander, but not a fan of the cross style D-pad I much prefer a floating D-pad
Jaja man I live your videos!!! Greetings from Bogota, Colombia