The HOTD Finale is EPIC
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- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2022
- A review/critique of the season finale of House of the Dragon. Primarily looking at the intense dragon chase and all the other highlights from episode 10: The black Queen.
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I bet Matt Smith has that shot of Daemon and Caraxes when he’s talking to the kingsguard as the backdrop on his computer
Or on his phone
I LOVE THAT MATT SMITH & EWAN MITCHELL DO NOT DO SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE DAEMON OR AEMOND NEXT SEASON .....LOL
Absolutely................... and so do i
@@virgoqueen8950 I still will cus i think both of them are psychos so nothing they do will surprise me even making the mother choose between her children
@@virgoqueen8950 I’m in full support of all war crimes committed by both sides, let’s go!
I like that they show Rhaenyra as hesitant and not a full blown aggressive queen, makes her more relatable.
I think it's her inner Vicerys. And that correlates with her being crowned with Vicerys' crown, the crown of peace, versus Aegon wearing the conquerors crown.
This series is not about relating to political players. I mean look at ned. I for one would of liked her being perceived like in the books.
I'm not team green but I also gotta commend alicent for doing the same also. Let's not forget Otto and the rest of the council wanting rhaenyra and her family dead but alicent was against that.
@@what-oy8il yeah it's not that much about that (like GOT) but good television has to have somewhat relatable (even if gray) characters otherwise it would just look like a documentary, but I understand where you're coming from
@@snorlaxxx8894 yes I like that too, makes it a better drama because even though the Greens can be ambitious and conspiring, Alicent doesn't want to go full crazy
Emma D’Arcy is just phenomenal. That last shot of Rhaenyra was chilling
Crazy to remember all the hate she and alicents new actor got when they took over for their younger counterparts
I thought she was already strong in episodes 6, 7 and 8 but this episode cemented her as the perfect casting choice and when she wore that crown, she looked so much like Viserys
@@miketrujillo3677, tbh, I didn’t see much hate for Olivia Cooke. Most of the hate went to Emma D’Acry but most of the haters I feel like were Dany stans who saw her as this flawless queen who should’ve sat the iron throne and were hoping Rhaenyra in this show would fill that spot
it was cringe
@@JonnySlick007 Compare that to the absolute mess that was season 8 of GoT and I think you'll feel a little better
If David Benioff wrote the season finale,
"While Lucerys kinda forgot about Aemond and his huge dragon, they certainly haven't forgotten about him"
“Essentially what we see is the end of the Dothraki”.
Meanwhile: Dothraki appear again next episode
@@MonsterIcee HOTD Season 1 Finale: "What they see is the end of Lucerys essentially"
Season 2 Premiere: I thought you were dead!
Nope!
@@IsaacWhittakerDakin Lucerys: My death was greatly exeggerated
The whole point of the birthing scenes is to show how the birthing bed is a woman's battleground. This one was especially good in how it was contrasted back and forth with Daemon frantically preparing for war.
I think these scenes are just as if not more compelling than the battle scenes
@@whateverdoesntmatter9868 I think that's one of the themes of this show. Men fight their battles... well, on the battlefield and women fight theirs in labor.
Agreed, it's great symbolism and a great way to compare how people fought their battles back in this sort of era.
I haven't seen any show or movie make me feel this way about pregnancy and birth. It is gross, disgusting and painful for the mothers. The writers intended for us to feel uncomfortable and I definitely felt that, but I also felt sympathy for the mothers. That's a hard balance.
Cutting Joffrey's birth would result in showing three deadly labours and no succesful one.
Honestly, as a book reader, I was dissapointed they did not show that much of mourning. It is impied that Rhaenyra wanted to have a daughter, and the fact she gave her stillborn daughter a name supports it. I wanted her to be able to have one scene in which she would cry over the fact she wanted Visenya for so long... even more, that she wanted to show her to Viserys... perhaps with Daemon. It would also make their argument better in my opinion. For example Daemon claiming that greens must pay for their daughter's death and Rhaenyra wondering if he truly cares or if it's just an excuse for murders.
HotD having all the baby scenes whether that being birth, stillbirth, miscarriages & deaths were spectacular and things you don't see often in visual (or most) media. Bravo.
more j-wish propaganda to stop young (white) women having kids.
Personally would prefer some more sex scenes but it’s 2022 not 2012
@@mordecaismopstick nah they’re definitely toning that down because GOT absolutely overdid it.
I agree
@@mordecaismopstick nah GoT had too many sex scenes for no reason.
I think one of the important implications about the Song of Ice and Fire scene was that Daemon didn’t know. In that moment both him and Rhyenera realized that Daemon was never ever truly an heir trusted with the family secret
Also I think the fact that Viserys told Rhaenyra immediately upon swearing her in shows how dedicated he was to his decision.
after rhaenyra, the prophecy is sadly forgotten by the remaining Targaryerns.
@@footballtomorrow9343 not so much forgotten as lost **SPOILERS BELOW**
All those who knew or might have known (Rhaenyra, Daemon, maybe Jacaerys if Rhaenyra had time to tell him) die before they get the chance to pass it on to the next potential heir. Even then, the prophecy lingers (at least in the books) because Rhaegar is said to have had some knowledge of it ("the prince that was promised" and all that). Maybe the Targaryen dreamers had similar dreams to Aegon I?
In terms of the song of ice and fire. I think the only reason that it feels forced to us is we know that the night king did nothing in S8. If we take away that knowledge, I think its fucking awesome that the Targs have the song as an ulterior motive that determines their actions and ruling methods rather than them just being power hungry
Some people seem to forget that magic and prophecy is an important aspect in A Song of Ice and Fire, because that's one of George's themes, who is working on HOTD. In Game of Thrones the show on the other hand, D&D didn't care about magic and prophecy because they felt it didn't appeal to the masses. So I feel that bringing the prophecy back is George leaving behind the atrocity that D&D created, getting back on track.
Exactly lol
@@zonefreakman 100% agree
Also the dream is not just to beat the night King but also to unite the realm rhaenyra would be doing the opposite if she went to war
@@user-op6kt8pg9y that’s exactly the point
I absolutely loved the final, because in very few pivotal scenes they gave Aemond great characterization, he's an asshole but he's not cruel for the sake of being cruel, he wanted to hurt Luke but not to kill him, and he realized that he started the war, he killed his nephew (which made him a kinslayer) and more subtle he also understood that the dragons are no pets and can't be controlled if they go loose.
Plus, kudos to the actor that managed to transmit those emotions without saying anything, just the shock on his face was enough
In the books the biases painted Aemond as an asshole easy to anger and slow to forgive (I mean, they actually painted it that way, he was still seeking vengeance for his eye afterall, even if he said in the past that claiming Vhaegar was a fair price), and not very brillant for this. But what they done in the series is absolutely better than a stereotypical villain like Joffrey was.
Hes just an inherently more interesting character here. Others are fine as well but most of them really dont get such a complex background, so to me Aemond is one of if not the most interesting character of the show.
Also the actor who plays him is freaking great and absolutely terrifying
Name one other show where the villain is a spoiled fifteen year old king and I might agree with you. So far I don’t think Joffrey was a stereotypical villain, he was just an asshole in power raised by a bitch in power. Marvellous character he was.
The only stereotypical villain was the Night king. He was a very black-and-white destructive character lacking a clear motivation and depth.
Joffrey is not a stereotypical villain I haven't seen anyone like him
He was so bad that I wanted to chop his head myself
Stereotypical doesn't mean that he's a copy paste of some other villain.
Yes, the Night King was even more stereotypical than Joffrey, but also Joffrey was cruel for the sake of being cruel, there was no other redeeming quality for him, no developement in his character, he was just there doing shit and being hated for this, without any real developement, while other villains in the series were more nuanced, they developed the reason for what they did, while he was just there throwing tantrums between evil acts, even the ones he wasn't responsible for (like when he said he wanted to serve the head of Robb Stark as a wedding gift to Sansa)
It's not a fault on the actor (Jack Gleeson was amazing, only praise for him), but this is how I feel about Joffrey, he started bad and ended bad, but even his bad didn't escalated in something more, he was a full-developed asshole with under developed background from start to finish
Well put - hard agree.
As a book reader, I was mad at it because things went in the complete opposite way. But now I kinda like the direction the writers have taken. It's was a great finale and the dragons already started their dance. And please can we give more credit to Ramin Djawadi for such a brilliant composition. Without his work the world of GoT wouldn't have had such an impact. He's a G 🙌🏾🧡
Ramin Djawadi is the 🐐💯🔥
I read the book too and it’s not really different… George R R Martin said himself, the maester who has written down the story isn’t always to be trusted and since he wasn’t always there and a lot things were written down from hearing about it or rumours the book is not always accurate
The books are 2nd and 3rd hand accounts of what happened, the show gives you a look into what actually happened with the characters and how they felt.
Particularly at which change were u mad at first?
i think you misunderstood what you read in the books. lol
Honestly I’m glad the birth scenes are here. We hear ALL the time about birthright and the importance of creating heirs and so much of the focus of this has been put on the men in the story of Game of Thrones while the women are treated more as a vessel for the men to act on (to the point where Daenerys, one of the single most important characters in the show, not being able to have another child, thus an heir by blood, is basically just offhandedly acknowledged one time 7 seasons later).
So I’m glad to see HoTD giving credit where credits due and showing the women’s perspective on that part and showing the struggle they have to go through to bring these characters into the story. Also given this world doesn’t really have a bunch of warrior women characters it’s important to illustrate what the franchise has referred to as “the woman’s battlefield”, that being the birthing bed. Daemon gets all these badass moments as a warrior, it seems only fair that Rheanyra get some badass moments of being a mother. It also makes it feel more grounded and authentic to acknowledge at this time that birth is actually incredibly dangerous and these mothers are being incredibly brave by genuinely putting their life on the line over and over again to have children.
completely agree! It's a brave choice and the right one, people will cheer at people getting stabbed in the head and violence but a few birthing scenes and people feel uncomfortable. It's how we all ended up here everyone! I think this show as you said does a fabulous job on showing a spotlight on the danger all people in history have faced be it war or childbirth ( or sickness in Visery's instance poor guy.) Feels good as a woman to see a show presenting the sacrifice and danger a woman puts herself in to have children.
I personally have been SO delighted by the birth scenes! All so different, yet equally raw, emotional, and powerful. Our main characters are women and not showing us these life-changing labors of theirs would be injustice to the characters. I'm personally quite tired of battle sequences and this change of perspective has been so very welcome. 👏
@@MeghamDraws YES, BECAUSE IF I WAS BACK IN THE MIDDLE AGES GIVING BIRTH I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT ......I HAD A FEVER BEHIND BOTH MY CHILDREN AND AN I.V. WITH ANTIBIOTICS AND COULD NOT HOLD MY BABIES FOR 3 DAYS TRYING TO GET MY FEVER DOWN. I LITERALLY HAVE TEARS TYPING THIS BECAUSE I FELT HELPLESS LOOKING AT MY CHILDREN THROUGH A GLASS WINDOW.
I hate those gross birth scenes , they are disgusting and unrelatable , definitely the worst part of the show , oh and those gay sex scene too !
@@Savage-nv6wr okay
Daemon singing a lullaby when he approaches Vermithor, presumably to keep him as calm as possible, was an amazing way of showing how dangerous they really are.
I remember when the episode was leaked on Friday and everyone on Twitter was claiming that the episode “ruined” the show, and I was terrified to watch it.
Then the episode came out and I realised that all those complaints were massively blown out of proportion and vocalised by a very small minority of the fanbase 😂
Probably woke RoP stans.
it's those weird teenage girls romanticizing daemon and rae
I to heard about the episode leaking online. I didn't want to watch it until the episode officially came out.
Yep. I remember fighting with a bunch of Daemon fangirls that were claiming he was ruined for choking Rhaenyra 🤣 the guy is cool af and all. I like him very much, but he is flawed and they refuse to accept their fave can be problematic. On the other hand we had a bunch of edgys crying bc their edgelord Aemond is not a fully psychopath (yet) and can actually feel remorse for fucking it up with Lucerys.
@@gingerale2038 I think they're making Daemon too Dark in the show he's supposed to be partly made of light and partly of darkness but mostly we've seen his dark deeds only while they're trying to make Alicent an oppressed female
Hopefully the success of the first season will make the suits amplify the budget allowing for epic battle sequences as the war escalates. Similarly, I hope the writers don’t get lazy if they get a strong budget and over rely on battles because the writing was compelling and is something they should feel pride for.
I also hope they don't reduce the politicking the way Dumbarse & Dipsh*t did, just to make way for spectacle- a major part of the war was focused on them gaining allies- & we're now expanding the world, as Jace goes to the Vale, the Riverlands & North.
I would **love** to see White Harbour- don't mistake me; I'm hyped as hell for Winterfell & the Starks, but I've always wanted to see what 'the North's only city' gets to look like- given I loved the book description we got...
I don't want epic battles. I want clever writing ABOVE ALL.
I know, that budget needs doubling, or tripling tbh. SO MUCH MORE is happening next season, and I don't want for all the budget to go to the battle sequences. I still want for the costume design to look eyegasmic, for the locations to be gorgeous, for multiple units to be shooting simultaneously. I want the show to still retain all of its good qualities in addition to the "very expensive and VFX heavy" sequences which are, not for purposes of exaggeration, integral parts of the story.
@@samf.s8786
I'm curious just _how many_ units they will split into, because the war was *all over the place* with its' multiple theatres, & a ton of interesting events & **fascinating** characters - there was very little in the way of neat division in this conflict; the Reach in particular was split- which I found interesting - hell, even Hightower's _own bannermen_ took different sides (you can guess House Beesbury wasn't keen to fight under the people who'd murdered a loyal old man of their house...) - & there's also a kinsman to a certain present-day GoT figure, who'd recently married into the Hightowers- but her family were on the opposite side, & she has conflicting loyalties {I'm wondering how/ if they'll address her later issues with her stepson...} - & the Tyrells who remained neutral for most of the war.
Then there's the Riverlands, probably the heaviest area of fighting - the Vale- which was already dealing with its' own problems before the war kicked off, & was basically the conflict in microsome; Jeyne's succession crises would persist even after the Dance was over - the journey of the Northmen, 'the Winter Wolves' under Dustin- after Cregan & Jace agree the Pact of Ice & Fire - the loose alliance of the Red Kraken to the Blacks' cause (which again, becomes a problem once the Dance ends) - even foreign forces played a part.
I understand that some streamlining will need to occur, but this was a wild & messy conflict- with some strange intertwining of houses & individuals & loyalties - I kind of think they should depict that honestly.
I'm hyped to meet people like: the Lads, Black Aly- Dalton Greyjoy, & of course, the Starks of this time - I just want the compelling story I read in 'Fire & Blood', & I really don't think we deserve to get short-changed in this. They've had more than a couple of pacing issues with this first season, but they have the source material to guide them- it can't be that hard....
exactly i hope they will include/bring real warfare experts to the team bcz there is a lot wars and it must be realistic not just cinematic if they do this no doubt it is will be most memorable wars in TV history
4:15 her dad told her that this was the greatest threat to the realm. so that’s why she brings it up to Daemond and also why she was hesitant to start the war and divide the kingdom
I think the real house of dragons were the friends we made along the way
LOL
"The friendships we severed along the way"
turns out the real game was how Bran had the best story
I have no idea what this is referencing, but I believe in it! The friends made along the way are the most important.
You my dragon bro , i wanna ride you across the seven kingdom ... No homo tho ..... unless ?
“The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion”- King Viserys I Targaryen
I read that just as that scene played in the video
Vizzy_T comin in with the awesome quotes
Bruh I'm just tired of these comments, already seen this like a million times
The only negative thing about this show is the long ass wait for the next one :(
One more thing: Every time I am watching, I feel bad that HOT D creators didn't adapt A Song Of Ice and Fire into Game Of Thrones, and instead it was D&D.
7:25 I don’t think Daemon isn’t trying to tame Vermithor, the old King Jaeharys’ (probably butchered the spelling) dragon. I believe he’s singing to it in high Valyrian that it will have a rider again soon for the oncoming war as a dragon and dragon rider can only share 1 bond at a time and will become aggressive if anyone else tries to ride it
You only missed an e in the last half, not bad lma
i think he was trying to warm up to the dragon so that maybe one of his daughters could claim it.
I haven’t read the book and I’m assuming that’s where the 1 bond at a time thing comes from. But even in the books dany has 3 dragons? Could say it’s because all the dragons “imprinted” on her at the same time. That’s the only thing I can think of
@@evanmildrum897 She magically hatched 3 dragons so they see her as a mother, but she can only fly Drogon, her bonded dragon
I actually love the birth scenes. I re-watched the episode last night and cried all over again during that scene. I think including these scenes enhances the realism and pays homage to the bravery of these women and the sheer suffering they endure to produce heirs. Since we're splitting heads and biting dragons in half, the explicit birth scenes are right at home in this series.
Otto stood face to face with a dragon and an angry Daemon and didn't flinch, what a badass
He rocked, the whole season. Great performer.
Man's even lost his cute pin:(
C'mon Rhaenyra we need that pin later in Game of Thrones🙄
@@nathangillingham5734 that's Ned stark's pin the crown is in debt what you want us to make new pins
If you noticed he didn't even flinch at meleys at dragonpit either
Are you telling me the crown is 3 million in debt?
That rhanyra coronation is epic. And the crown of jaharys is just so epic.
honestly, the amount of birth scenes and the harsh depiction of them really helps the average viewer of the show, men, the amount of shit and pain and suffering women in those position had to go through. We can't even imagine what giving birth feels like. It also makes, in my eyes, the last scene more impactful because of that.
agreed, the struggles of women can be just as interesting as the struggles of men and as a man myself i find it really interesting how HotD shows these intense and personal moments, it makes the world feel even more real and i love it.
I think the interplay of the personal & the political is one of the more intriguing elements in this 'fantasy show'
Still don't care about women's pain , trust me ,women's constant complaints is worse than any child birth !
The dragon fight scen felt like the final battle from how to train your dragon between toothless and the red death, nostalgic in a way.
only that hiccups dies instead of losing a leg
@@dedalus6188 yup, but the moment before the bite looked so simmilar although in httyd they somehow pulled of that manouver
I think it's wrong to say a woman being choked was deserved. I do however think it suits Daemon's character because this is a man that groomed Rhaenyra from a young age. The choking was the build up of exhausted masculinity, jealousy for his wife's power, and the fear of losing it to the 'portents' of what he thinks is his brothers delirium
No it's in character but your reasons are senseless the show sets up the song of ice and fire as something that's passed from king to future king/queen and when Rhaenyra tells this to him he realizes Viserys never wanted him to be his successor also that Daemon just lost his brother and she's blabbing on about the song of ice and fire and forcing him not to fulfill his violent impulsive urges so he instead faces his violent urges to her and chokes her one thing we are shown is that he sees these dreams as delusions and weakness
Daemon serenading Jaehaery's dragon was so epic
I love all scenes where daemon and rhaenyra speak high valyrian, especially together, and this lullaby was very beautiful
That chase scene with Aemond and Lucerys had me on the edge of my seat
Maybe the real lord of light was the lava map no one told Stannis about
stannis the godamn mannis, has no idea where the true map-is
I've looked forward to your videos the entire run of season one. You and Alt Shift X are my go to content creators for these shows and I appreciate you both and your takes on the different episodes
Check out Glidus as well. His sense of humour is beyond brilliant ;).
@@grzegorzmj4881 glidus the GOAT
You should watch Glidus. His videos are hilarious and more nuanced.
@@Sipu97 Still waiting on his next vid(s). Killing me he has fallen so far behind. 😭
@@grzegorzmj4881 ser Alliser: "I DID"
Rhaenyra just lost her baby and father...then comes to Daemon to choke her. It's cruel even for him. She was probably still in pain after just giving birth to a dead child too💀
love this channel but hearing him say she "had it coming" was really icky
@@notacat8337 war is inevitable, daemon wanted to strike first, reasonable considering he knows Otto's true nature
@@notacat8337 I won't be watching any more videos on this channel because of that.
@@brandonratcliff1554 not excusable for domestic violence against his wife who just gave birth lmao
@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 she was fine, he didn't hurt her. I'm sure he did worse when they fucked.
"rhenerya is down bad"
*brings up a scene where she is being choked*
well played
Rhaenyra's stillbirth scene also perfectly encapsulates the nature of being a women in this machiavellian patriarchal universe. Aemma was the one to tell her that the childbed is a woman's battlefield, and that she must learn to face it. So while she is battling for her life with her wetnurse's the men are around the table playing their game of thrones, a table she has always so desperately wanted to be at. It shows that even as Rhaenyra is about to claim herself as protector of the realm, the fact that she is a woman remains a hinderance on her political ambitions. The show is imbedded in a well-thought feminist framework no doubt.
Yep
Perfectly Described
After a good, but sloppy, episode 9, this finale was absolutely incredible. It has me really excited for how future seasons are going to handle the dragon battles. Also, props to the young actor who played Lucerys. You could feel his fear during that scene in the hall at Storm's End.
How was episode 9 sloppy?
@@brianm3160 girl boss scene
@@leonrussell9607 sorry, what? What's that?
@@brianm3160 I think a lot of people don’t like it because rhaenys didn’t burn all the greens despite being able to
@@evanmildrum897 hahaha, yeah that's true, but it would've been an emotional decision
I was truly skeptical about this series from how they ended GoT, which was a dumb way to go into it considering it’s all new writers and a new time period. But man I’ve been blown away from this first season. The drama, tension, acting, scenery and everything was done well. I can’t wait for season 2.
Aemond when he gets home “it was just supposed to be a prank!!”
Damn dude, 'she kinda deserved it?' 🤦🏾
Well the prince who was promised thing is very relevant even in house of the dragons since none of the Targaryens who gets told the prophecy actually know when the long night will happen, Rhaenyras probably thinks the prophecy is about her sons or maybe even about her. It also makes sense for Daemon to be mad at her for talking about prophecies and peace like she does, since it reminds him of Viserys, who was a weak king in his eyes.
I disagree that Vizzy T is a weak king. I think him being called Viserys the Peaceful was pretty accurate.
@@rahbeeuh He was weak at the start of the series. As his body grew weaker, his mind grew stronger. The pain built his fortitude and he became a firmer, more decisive ruler. (for example, his iconic throne room entrance scene)
@@rahbeeuh i think the show made him appear a lot stronger than GRRM intended tbh.
He got stronger
@@rahbeeuh Yes he is not necessarily weak, but in Daemons mind he was weak when it came to conflict resolution. He did everything he could to make peace, even though the house and crown were at its most powerful, the stepstones as an example. Jaehaerys was also peaceful, but he was also firm, which is what made him so great.
He is an amazing character and def not weak minded.
I am so glad that at the beginning of the episode Daemon confronted Rhaenys as to why she did not kill Aegon and the Hightowers, because if that point was completely left out, I would have been pissed to the point where I would pass it on as d&d level writing.
Exactly. This scene eliminated the plot hole. Hence this show is 9/10 for me as of now. Missed one point because i wanted to see more of daemon and rhaenyra with their kids aegon and viserys. They could've gone slower with the time jumps.
Domestic violence is never necessary, especially when it was created just because. Rhaenyra does NOT deserve it. What a fucked up thing to say supercuts...
Its one thing to say that daemon is quick to anger so his actions in that moment can be explained... But it was NOT deserved. EVER.
I don’t think anyone deserves to be choked, no matter the circumstances. I think as viewers, we know Daemon is a loose cannon and has a history of treating women like objects. But, there’s really no room for saying Rhaenyra DESERVED to be choked. No one deserves abuse, man or woman.
it’s a joke😐
@@-_-ligma boys aren’t funny
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
I love how Caraxes slips a little in the King’s Guard scene. Such a simple detail but makes the scene that much more fun
A huge LOL @ saying the Queen deserved to be choked for "blabbing" about Ice and Fire. Yikes!
Yeah that caught me really off guard, pretty fucked to excuse abuse like that
@@milesalexandria3862 It was clearly a joke about the shitty ending of game of thrones
same. I like these videos but that comment was fucked up.
Abuse isn't funny, but, haven't we all choked someone or at least contemplated it?
@@2ndMess no
I absolutely love that theyre keeping the music from game of thrones, from the main theme to a variation of winds of winter playing when the kids and rhaenys fly off on the dragons
It was actually the exact track "Blood of My Blood" :D
This series has honestly rekindled my joy for GoT. Having come in with such low expectations after seasons 7-8, the writers for HoT are doing a great job capturing the feel of the earlier seasons in GoT, very much looking forward to what's next.
I don't know but I did like season 7, I know it wasn't as good as the earlier seasons but i like it more than seasons 5 and 6. Now 8, thats trash.
"she kind of deserved it" is a bit of a concerning statement
it was a joke about the ending of game of thrones
I know you didn’t say Rhaenyra deserved to be choked….
Like why would he say that tf
@@MeleysTessarion because he’s a pathetic male
she deserved her husband choking her because she was babbling? I understand that daemon would definitely do it and it isn't out of character, but she did not deserve it.
Exactly. He did it, that's all good for the story I suppose. But she in no way deserved that.
Yeah that joke was a bit uncalled for
yeah that joke was dumb and that scene is brilliantly layered.
Right? What the actual fuck.
Definitely a "yikes" moment from me. Any respect for this reviewer is gone.
Anyone else find it disturbing he said a woman deserved to be choked by her husband? Makes me worry about the women he dates.
i doubt he can get a woman. all of his videos have small sprinkles of misogyny.
Don't say she kinda deserve it. That's fucked up man.
How bout not making excuses or agreeing with domestic violence? Yes it’s in his character. That doesn’t make it okay. Being a rapist is part of Aegon’s character but we don’t go, “well the servant shouldn’t have let herself be alone with him.” Victim blaming really?
Lmao, it was a joke, get a life, there is a difference between getting raped and getting choked for a few seconds. I'm sure you made plenty of jokes about jofferys parentage during the original show. "Do YoU tHiNk cHeAtInG oN yOuR hUsbAnD iS oK"
4:17 "She kinda deserved it"
uhh what? What a gross thing to say.
Actually, the prophecy was inherently important in this episode. Rhaenyra learned, that despite being heir for years, Viserys NEVER told Daemon. He neve really thought Daemon would succeed him. We know from the previous episode that he never cared much for Aegon and clearly never told him either.
Any doubts she had that her father wanted her as his successor are gone.
"She kinda deserved it" incredibly shitty take.
I like Daemon as a character, but that doesn't change that we've known hes been violent from the beginning (murdering a messenger and murderous petulance during a tournament)
You don't have to justify your liking him by minimising his violence or literally saying domestic abuse against his niece is understandable.
even though i knew what was gonna happen i was literally in tears from the moment luke and jace said they would go deliver the messages to when luke got chomped in half
Why the hell would you be in tears??
@@manvirshergill1739 bc it made me so emotional knowing what was gonna happen (i read the book)
@@eglop5841 get a hold over yourself. It's embarassing to get emotional, especially over something as trivial as a story
@@bierwolf8360 damn brother who hurt you?
@@eglop5841 no one. Who hurt you that you cry from a character getting killed?
I discovered Your channel during the "GoT" season 8 disaster 3 years ago - and that circumstances compared to those of today/yesterday are really, positively different.
Man, what a turn of events. The production quality of this series really is a miracle.
Bro that shot of Vhagar when Luc lands and Storm’s End was so cool. An utter behemoth silhouetted against the clouds like Godzilla, looking impossibly big. So atmospheric
4:15 Can you repeat that, please?
My heart hasn’t pounded like that during a show since “light of the Seven”
The lack of music in the dragon storm scene added to the tension.
It has been a pleasure to watch your reviews after each episode. Keep up the amazing work.
7:53 For me it appeared that it drew parallel to the dragon & Damon. As he was calming and taming the dragon , he is also soothing his own fire for war and taming his own beast with the same song. Damon encapsulates and extenuates the element of fire brilliantly.
I like how they're kinda giving the dragons some depth...sure they're beasts but it turns out they actually affect story in a big way
“Rhaenyra deserved it.” Please tell me that’s a joke and you’re not really condoning Daemon strangling his wife. There is NO excuse for that.
Of course she didn’t deserve it. I think what was meant to be said is that Daemon is very impulsive and that his Actions in that State don’t necessarily reflect his actual Feelings. And Tempers and Feelings are definitely up on both. Daemon lost his Brother whom for all their Difference he loved and their Child. Same for Rhaenyra and she has the added Struggle of being Queen now. If that Situation wouldn’t make People overreact i don’t know what would.
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Agreed. And maybe Daemon feels that if this is the stuff that's been going through Viserys' head all these years, *that's* why he was so weak & seemingly indecisive (though family was always something he was firm on- except in extremis- usually triggered by _Daemon_ , lol).
But Rhaenyra didn't lose her cool when that happened, which is interesting- instead, she pivoted & hit him where it hurt- with the realisation that Viserys didn't trust him enough to tell him- in all the years before Rhaenyra's birth, when Daemon was heir presumptive...
@@OcarinaSapphr- Well said . To truly know for certain we would have to look into Characters Heads though since often enough Scenes are ambiguous enough to be open to Interpretation
I agree. Saying she "deserved it" had me immediately click off the video. As a woman who has been strangled by an abusive ex it was a gut punch to hear someone say that on a channel I've watched frequently. This guy usually has very insightful commentary, but this was ridiculous and very disturbing.
Daemon is my favorite character and everything but i don't agree that Rhaenyra deserved to be choked by her husband, dude. Not after a traumatizing childbirth that ended in the death of said child. It's not her fault Viserys didn't tell Daemon about the Song. She thought Daemon knew. That said, given thr context of the situation, Daemon is also under a lot of stress as well and I DO agree that him choking her is very much in line with his character.
THIS
It’s fucking horrible to say Rhaenyra deserves to get choked and assaulted for bringing up the prophecy. I genuinely thought you were going to add an edited comment afterwards mentioning that Is was a crude joke, but you didn’t. That was a shocking and uncomfortable feeling
He never said she deserved it. He said it was in character for Daemon to do it, which it was.
@@carlrood4457 Watch the part again. He straight up says that she kind of deserved it.
love your content but no Rhaenyra didn't "deserve it" but I do agree it would be characteristic of Daemon and people may be romanticizing who he is too much, since he did murder his wife and disrespected his brother when he was king
Yeah agreed, I think many of the people who were mad forgot that, while Rhaenyra loves him and while, yes, they did get married, Daemon is still not a good person.
@@k.c.hughes3210 he's the only tolerable part of the Boy Scouts, sorry, I meant Blacks. The others are so dull.
how can u love his content all of his videos are riddled with misogyny
Wait, what?! Did you just say Rhaenyra deserved to be choked?!
I loathe Rhaenyra's character as a precious little snowflake who don't think the rules should apply to her, but even I know that's messed up.
Domestic Violence is no laughing matter and saying "...that's just Daemon" is also fucked up.
This behavior is unacceptable regardless of how much you like the perpetrator.
I might edit the part where you said Rhaenyra deserved getting choked l, don’t want ppl to take that out of context.
Great videos btw, I really enjoy your input on the show, can’t wait for the season 2 videos!
There's really no taking it out of context.. he said it plain up, albeit in a way that was more a throw away "im so funny" kind of comment but like.. not cool.
As a photographer, I love the composition in HotD. Especially the table lighting up.. it was done so nicely
My favourite part of this video is when he said nothing
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@@arionjoramaeneas673 At the time I made the comment there was no sound on the video. Guess that's been fixed now.
"Luc was not important"
Bruh, luc was heir to driftmark. I pretty sure that's is an important role to have. Oh well. Poor luc.
“She deserved it” lol I hope a lot of y’all don’t have daughters & sisters to protect. Who raised you lol Taking tone death to a different level 💀
Honestly. I stopped paying attention when he said that cause like??? I thought supercuts was cool. Very unnecessary comment.
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man i love Vaghar, literally the size of a small city
The shot of Lucerys looking at Vhagar when he landed at Storm's End reminded me of when the T.Rex first appeared in Jurassic Park.
Also, on the topic of the birth scenes in HotD, I actually quite like how many there. A lot of Targaryen women have made the parallel between birthing and fighting, Aemma Arryn in the show for one, as well as Viserys' and Damon's mother in the books. In GoT and HoTD to a lesser extent we see characters sword fighting often, murdering each other, which in this world is a man's thing to do primarily. It's one of the most dangerous things they can do and often is a way to demonstrate and 'earn' their manhood. Birthing is a woman's thing to do in the ASoIF universe, so I find it actually cool to see how hard and often times scary birth can be on screen. This show really centers some female characters who have many kids, so it'd honestly be kind of weird to omit such a big event that often threatens their life from the show.
The song of ice and fire is mentioned bc it’s largely her motivation for taking the throne. No one else but her knows of the prophecy.
Also I appreciate you changing up the background music in this video, I was kinda getting sick of the previous ones binge watching your reviews. Thoughtful and much appreciated, thanks. Waiting eagerly for the season review.
I am typically cynical, so going into this show i had very dulled expectations...
But man... this is how you fucking do it. Everything we as an audience needed, they gave us.
Did anyone notice that the showrunners said there are 9 dragons in the first season but actually we saw 10 dragons!!
1. Syrax
2. Caraxes
3. Seasmoke
4. Vhagar
5. Vermax
6. Arrax
7. Sunfyre
8. Dreamfyre
9. Meleys
10. Vermithor
I can't remember a single scene with Sunfyre in it. When was that?
@@juniorlks1 it was during Laena's funeral in episode 7.
I honestly can’t tell if the “she kinda deserved it” is ironic or not…
knowing this virgin and his pathetic opinions he’s completely serious
Please have so much of Otto clapping in the overall season video. I love it so much lol. Can't wait for the video!
Fantastic review. Enjoyed that. Completely agree on everything.
Of course a man wouldn't understand the significance of a birthing scene. You're upset because you have to witness women's pain? This is a reality of life. It's more compelling than sword fighting
What you seem to be forgetting is aegons dream was not just to kill the white walkers it was also to unite the realm for that fight, this is why its so important to rhaenyra when she hesitates about going to war, I think youre letting your bias overshadow what's actually been said in the episodes
I can NOT be the only one who cried during the scene where Rhanerya was crowned by Daemon.
Even in the context of Game of Thrones, no one "deserves" to get choked. I don't like Daemon at all. But, Matt Smith is a good actor & was good in Morbius & Dr. Who.
did you said she deserved it? what’s wrong with this man omfg
“She kinda deserved it”
Lol is that like “she was asking for it bc of how she dressed”
Id say “she should have expected it” vs deserving it. Personally. She knew what kind of guy he was before she ran off with him and conspired with him.
However I do love complexity of characters. On the thin line between good and evil. Between hate and love. Between supporting them and wanting to see them be defeated.
I think there are so many birthing scenes bc it’s so much more woman based storytelling. A woman’s role as a mother versus her role as a queen, dedication to her children vs dedication to her people. That’s how I see it at least.
"Your life is your movie. Make it a good one. " this stuck with me. Thanks dude! I love your videos and wish you keep making them. Forrest Gump is one of my favorites as well.
I want the shot of Daemon and Caraxys in the background on a poster man. So sick
You seriously don't understand why the prophecy has weight? Comon man. Rhaenyra understands that it's important for the Targaryens and their bloodline to keep ruling to ensure the prince that is promised will come and save the world. There's a bigger picture to the Iron throne that only rhaenyra understands.
And as someone else said- Daemon never knowing of it, solidifies Rhaenyra's realisation that she was always *meant* to be her father's heir- that realisation has taken away any doubts she had...
love the show, but the final two episodes are weirdly tagged on. viserys' death would have been the natural end to season 1, and was the definitive high point of the season. aegon's coronation would have made a good episode 1 of season 2. and they would have easily had enough options to stretch the 8 episodes to 10, as the pace was occasionally very perceptably hurried, and the time jumps were jarring. it also would have probably been good to establish queen aemma as a character before killing her, given that viserys' love for her is supposed to be so important. episode 8 was the most final of the season with episode 9 also having a somewhat final character, and episode 10 lacking it entirely (it cuts off the beginning of a new chapter of the story).
I think the placing of the season cut is my only major complaint. the other ones are minor, like how daemon 100% ought to have contracted greyscale from the crabfeeder, given how he killed him, or that everyone was acting very irrationally for dramatic effect when rhaenys crashed aegon's coronation.
bruh i cant wait for this long
A woman's war is in the birthing bed, or so Aemma said in Ep1.
There are so many birth scenes because that's a violence women suffer (specially if someone dies) and we men often ignore.
more j-wish propaganda to stop young (white) women having kids.
@@celozzip dude what are you talking about? You know stillborns, natural abortions and women dying while giving birth are possibilites in a pregnancy? What has this to do with any religion?
"violence" lol
@@manoz6194 one of the definitions of the adjective violent: sth that implies an extraordinary intensity.
Thus, childbirth is violent.
@@ferran273 A creature coming out tearing off your body is not violent but Vanilla for some idiots lol
No-o-o-o! Don’t say Rhaenyra ‘kind of deserved’ to be choked by Daemon. Domestic violence is a serious and current problem for women and children, and some men too. I’m usually nodding along to your commentary but hearing you say that floored me. You are better than that.
"blabbering on" and "kind of deserved it" wtf. its abuse
Its fiction
yeahhhh i was thinking the same thing
He was asserting dominance, because they both want to lead the cause and neither wants to concede. I believe that Daemon should be appointed as general of the war effort, since he will be on the front lines, and he is the king consort. Though, the queen should should have the final say so and make the overall decisions. She is kinda scrambling here.. like, it's just a fairy tale. Arya kills the night king lol
They are setting up this Song of Ice and Fire storyarch as a nod to George R.R. Martin´s Winds of Winter being hopefully released soon. At least it seems to me that, that is the case here.
I really like the prophecy stuff. I'm thinking of it in the context of George's books and lore though, not GOT.
Did he just say that a woman deserved physical violence from her partner? There is no excuse. Her "blabbering" was not even relevant to Daemon whatsoever. If you like a grey character - it's alright but don't excuse his clearly vile actions with "well, she deserved it, that's who he is". wtf
I knew luce was gonna die but damn...watching it was heartbreaking. Seeing Rheanyra making him promise not to fight, knowing it was going to be the last time she ever saw her son alive...chills.
The scenes with Vermithor and Vhagar were phernomenal. The scale of those dragons God DAMN.
Then the storm broke, and the dragons danced.