House of the Dragon Is Off to a Good Start
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2022
- A review of House of the Dragon episode 1: The Heirs of the Dragon. I do a rundown of all the big moments and take a close look at the writing. Feels good to be back.
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"My wife and son are dead. I will not sit here and suffer crows that come to feast on their corpses" I loved that line not gonna lie
The line and delivery was amazing
His voice cracked right there which I think was so fucking perfect, accidentally or not, it felt genuine.
Yeah that's a great line elevated by superb acting from Paddy Considine. The man gave a masterclass of acting for the first episode.
"Then why do you cut me so deep"
When him and Daemon were in the throne room. I love Paddy.
Paddy and matt had the best scenes together
“The gods are yet to make a man who lacks the patience for absolute power”
This is a great line by Otto
Something someone savvy to democracy would say, not a councilman to a monarch
@@autumnleaf45 Not really. The king is dumb for thinking Daemon won’t try to take the throne and it’s being presented as such.
Amazing actor also, Rhys Ifans nailed it.
Wht about jhon snow ?????
@@carahultater5939 John Snow doesn't exist yet, so what about him?
We're one episode in and I think we'll need a whole video of Daemon roasting Otto throughout the season
Daemon: "a CUUUUNNNT!"
You are not ready for Otto lol , that man won't hold back
Otto is a super shady guy you just can't be safe with him
He has money he has power and through his grandsons he'll have dragons
Just in episode 1:
Makes fun of his wife being dead
Styles on his eldest son and beats him
Asks for favor from his daughter
Calls him a C**t
This is gonna be a long compilation
@@Darkstar_Dayne And in the words of Daemon: "He's a second son who stands to inherit nothing he does not take for himself."
“I’ve only ever defended you” not so much the line but the delivery game me chills
In that same scene as well, Daemon: "The blood of the dragon runs thick" Viserys: "Then why do you cut me so deeply?" There was definitely A LOT of good dialogue in this episode
@@dante2037 That reply was so emotional it almost made me tear up
"...I am your heir." He says it so subtly but it sounds almost like a threat. Matt Smith killed it.
@@Darkstar_Dayne nah you’re too dramatic 😭
"Youre weak Viserys" and Daemon is right
The king cutting himself can be interpreted more as maybe he's not a proper fit for being king. Daemon even says he wants to protect Viserys from himself. And don't forget that there was a king that actually died on the throne, implied he fell on one of the swords
The king who died on the throne, was Maegor called Maegor the Cruel, it is said in the books that the throne claimed his life, the exact cause of his death is not mentioned, it is kinda implied that he was killed by some of the Faith Militant or even perhaps someone in his own court who was tired of his deeds.
@@jaigracejjoy thanks for the clarification, friend
I like the idea that the throne cuts every king, but Westeros only spreads and remembers the cuts on the hated kings. This is more of a theory from how Fire and Blood is written, in the show I think they are going for the more thematic route
@@nicholasfish6793 yeah, Maegor, Aerys II and Rhaenyra, they are known for being cutting by Throne.
@@nicholasfish6793 the small folk remember only what they want to remember
When it shows rhaenyra riding the dragons, it's not daenerys' theme, it's just the whole targaryen theme. This episode too, has fair amount of good dialogues.
And the fire and blood novel was also told from the perspective of a maester.
You are right. I am pretty sure the original piece with the whole motif is called "Fire and Blood." Definitely just a Targaryen motif.
I wonder why he believes that. Some of his other points are rather eye-rollingly pedantic. I suppose when you're a RUclipsr all you need to do is say stupid things and people will watch, whether they agree with it or not.
This is whats so great with this series. It allows the creators to take some liberties with what was told in the book because the book was basically based on controversial sources that were anything but a objective account of events.
Exactly
@@TheSonOfDumb maybe bcz he is sick, he didn't pay enough attention 🤔 idk
I honestly have no complaints. Yes not everything is 100% perfect but it doesn't have to be to achieve great things. This show seems like it's made carefuly and with respect to GRRM's world. The cast is fantastic and it is gripping already from episode 1. I am enjoying it a lot.
Agreed. Plus its the first episode. I'd like to think things will smooth out over the course of the season
@@loz9324 yeah this first episode wasn't going to be perfect because it has to introduce everything, characters, world, plot, etc. and even taking that into consideration I think it was really good
Except the blackwashed Velaryons to fill a quota. They couldn't create an original characters from the summer isles no they had to blackwash the Velaryons out of all people. STUPID!
Yeah my singular complaint was that I don’t think the dragons looked nearly as good as in GoT but everything else was very good I thought
he clearly didnt read the books either it feels to me...
I think you’re a little too harsh regarding the dialogue, remember the first episode of GoT didn’t have constant brilliant dialogue all the time, it was spread out over several seasons, this episode already has some really cool lines such as:
“The gods have yet to make a man who lacks the patience for absolute power”
"My wife and son are dead. I will not sit here and suffer crows that come to feast on their corpses"
“The iron throne is the most dangerous seat in the realm”
"The Dragon's blood runs deep." "Then why do you cut me so deeply" etc.
It’s only fair if you compare this to GoT season 1 episode 1.
“Targaryens are closer to gods than to men” not the craziest line in the world but I thought it was nice.
the most memorable i can think of from game of thrones would be: "the things i do for love"
and yeah with that one episode you can´t really compare the dialogue. but so far we didn´t get any dwarf/eunuch jokes at least. so i would say the dialogue is above what we got from D&D
also need to be reminded that HotD doesn't have source with many dialogues. Fire & Blood has barely dialogues and comversations, so to think that most of the dialogues made completely by Ryan Condal who's the writer of this episode and the showrunner, is amazing. No eunuch/cock jokes lol.
Not to mention that the writers this episode had to create all original dialogue since there’s barely any of that in Fire and Blood whereas in S1, a lot of the dialogue was copied straight from the books even if there were amazing original scenes
You’ve forgotten “Winter is Coming”. Also stated in episode 1 of GOT. That and “the things I do for love” are the most quotable quotes of that episode and whole series
All I’m saying is if Matt Smith doesn’t dance at some point in the series like he did in the greatest movie of all time I’ll be disappointed
yet;)
Movie of all time
He will do the Dance of Dragons.
@@attenberg you sir have just won this comments section
It’s Daemon Time!
I disagree with the side characters. Why would the audience need to know who Beesbury or Harwin Strong when they don't have anything to do with the story yet
Also the pilot of GoT spent time only on the main characters (aside from the cold open). It wasnt until Episode 3 of Season 1 that I remember the prominent S1 side characters even being introduced.
Doesn’t strong knock up rhaenyra three times though? Or is that a different strong? So he’s kinda important.
That's not Harwin Strong
It's his father Lyonel
Because good storytelling it.
@@shytguy Yeah, but he's not important right now. If we assume the show is sticking with the timeline (even if the characters ages are different), the first episode is taking place in 105 AC, and Jace, Luke and Joff won't be born for another decade. Harwin and Rhaenyra mightn't have even been acquainted yet.
To me, Otto Hightower basically commanding his daughter to sleep with the King makes him much more unlikeable than Daemon.
Exactly
I mean it's not that different than Tywin marrying Cersei to Robert or Mace Tyrell marrying Margaery to Joffrey. They're playing the Game of Thrones after all.
@@pg1448 Not exactly. Cersei was pretty excited about marrying Robert until their wedding night, when she realized that he was a drunk fool who was still in love with Lyanna. And Margaery was fully onboard with marrying Joffrey, as her ambition to be queen was as strong or stronger than Mace’s.
That's what every westerosi lord does, they often pimp their children out to get the best marriages possible, I don't think It's fair to hate him for something that was common among nobility.
Well there’s also Tywin forcing Tyrion to marry Sansa and trying to marry Cersei to Loras
Thrones had the brilliant dialogue from the books which DnD could simply copy word for word whereas Fire & Blood has hardly any dialogue in it.. that said it doesn't NEED to be ground-breaking it just needs to be good. I enjoyed the pilot a lot particularly from an acting point.
The acting was always good in Game of Thrones though, that's nothing new here.
@@maximelover3314 Yet still a great and promising start.
@@maximelover3314 Ok? And that's fine? I'm not expecting this show to be better tham game of thrones, I'm kind of looking at it as it's own thing because it kinda is, it's still game of thrones but it has a very different concept to it and very different style.
It's ok to enjoy it from an acting standpoint, even if it's not anything new.
To be fair, most people forget that there was loads of additional dialogue and scenes that D&D added in the early seasons, many of which are iconic. They didn't just copy and paste the dialogue. And most of Season 6's dialogue was not from a book (the average person loved it at the time). Off the top of my head, Lady Olenna's dialogue in her final scene in Season 7 was easily better than anything in this episode (and Cersei's dialogue before leaving the remaining Sandsnakes to die in the cellar). *They messed up but we should look at things in a nuanced way.* The majority of adaptations of good works are absolutely terrible.
But yeah, I don't think D&D could write something like this, with no dialogue to even start from. I was impressed with the first episode and hope It stays this good.
I will add the caveat that most of the dialogue from early GoT wasn't copied directly. It was very much adapted, mostly by modernising it and making it a little more punchy, since dialogue in the books could be extremely longwinded. But still that is a much easier job than making dialogue from scratch.
I've seen an interview somewhere with Ramin Djawadi and he said he will be pulling a lot from Danny's themes to the show, simply bc some of them weren't only her themes at all but the house's. I think as the episodes go on we will hear variations of her themes in thrones but with each targaryen's essence mixed in
Yeah.. so true.
The soundtrack from the first sequence (rheneyra riding her dragon) was actually a variation of house Targaryen theme and not Daenerys's theme.
Yeah I never really interpreted it as ‘Dany’s theme’ I always saw it as the Targaryens overall. She just happened to be the only Targaryen left, so we only ever got the theme when she was on screen. But then with the Starks since there were multiple of them we got to hear the theme for all the characters, so it never felt like ‘oh this is Jon’s song’ if that makes any sense.
I agree and Dany's theme specifically has the Dothraki drumming mixed in with the Targ theme while the Targ themes on their own don't have it.
"The gods are yet to make a man who lacks the patience for absolute power" - Otto
That's a great line
I thought it made no sense in the context of the situation
@@kingrobert7246 100% agreed
@@kingrobert7246 It means that there's no man ever created who doesn't want the kind of power that comes with being the King of the seven kingdoms
It's a reply to Viserys saying Daemon lacks the patience required to be a King
@@Darkstar_Dayne no that’s not what it means, he’s basically saying there’s no one in the realm who wants the iron throne because they won’t wait for it, which is completely wrong because A. Daemon wants the Throne along with millions of other people and B. Otto is basically supporting Daemon by going against Viserys saying ‘he lacks patience’ and Otto is saying he has patience. He is backing his own rival? Completely stupid line and out of character
@@kingrobert7246 u dont understand the line. He is saying there is nobody who doesn't have enough patience to wait for their chance to sit on the iron throne. It makes perfect sense ??
Given that they can't just plagiarize the books, I'd say the dialogue was pretty good. You have to remember Season 1 GoT might have the best dialogue ever in TV. It's an impossible standard to hold a show to.
The book this is based on doesnt have dialogue.
Exactly.. that level of dialogue seems impossible to reach. However, i do like the dialogue in HOTD just fine, it would be great if they maintain (or better, level up) the dialogue for later episodes since there isn't much source drama. But.. one could surely count on the show, since GRRM is Actively involved in the production.
GRRM is the creator of the shows, he can't plagiarize his own work
@@eljefe3864 they're just saying that most of the dialogue of the early seasons of GoT were taken straight from the books
I expect we'll hear a few lines taken directly from the book. Not dialogue, but if someone at the time wrote down a direct quote, "Archmaester Gyldayn" included it in Fire & Blood.
When talking about the birth/tourney scene during the “Into the Episode” segment, Miguel Sapochnik said that they did intentionally cut the scene like that because of the conversation between Aemma and Rhaenyra about giving birth being women’s “battlefield”
Edit: Totally not the scene Supercuts was talking about, my b
He’s talking more about the actual melee fight between daemon and handsome man. The fight was choppy with lots of cuts during the parts that weren’t the birth scene.
@@conormurphy4328 The editing is supposed to show the fight and Aemma giving birth are the same thing thematically, the editing probably needed to be made up of quick cuts so the transition from the fight to the bedroom would be smoove, still just a guess tho.
@@conormurphy4328 You’re totally right, I mixed up which scenes from the various fights were intercut with the birth.
@@conormurphy4328 the quick cuts can still be followed thoroughly tho, you understand when things go into a direction the next cut still shows it going to that same direction
Not particularly great but better than 90% of hollywood cut action
@@conormurphy4328 the thing is, it's hard as heck to choreograph a good fight scene (note: the Ned gang vs Arthur Dayne gang in AGOT was not good fighting) because if they try to make it realistic, it gets dangerous really quick so they make cuts to mask the fact they're playing it safe
I don't understand the big issue so many people have with reusing the themes from GOT. It's the thing I looked forward to the most in all of the spinoffs I've watched. Hearing the themes from the original series is always a delight as it immediately takes you back to that world and firmly establishes the connection between the original and the spinoff. Safe to say that hearing the Baratheon and Targaryen/Daenerys' themes were absolutely 2 highlights of the episode for me.
Like its a spinoff from the original of course there are going to be some elements from the previous show inserted into it. There is nothing wrong with that
I'm glad the iconic themes are back, it would be like Star Wars without the imperial march or Harry Potter without Hedwigs Theme. I just hope Djawadi also come up with some new memorable themes for this show that give it its own distinct musical character. I feel like a lot of the soundtracks even in the later GoT seasons were just recycled and slightly modified material from the first 3 seasons.
Exactly. These theme's are not written for one character. They represent the houses as a whole
It seems so much like the first season of Game of Thrones, the storyline is different, but the quality, the over the top blood and guts, it's already a masterpiece
Edit: I didn't mean to start The Red Wedding. It's my opinion, if you don't agree, move on.
Feels more like book Westeros
@@azlanadil3646 No not at all.
@@azlanadil3646 that's as perfect as things can be
No it seems like that pilot dumb & dumber filmed that never aired. It seems like blatant HBO damage control..
No it doesn't feel like Game Of Thrones season 1 at all, It feels different
Coming into this show knowing nothing about this conflict Daemon doesn’t really come off as a villain to me. Yeah his kind of big intro is killing off a bunch of criminals and then later he insults his own wife (which I’m guessing he never wanted to marry so makes sense) and the dead wife of Otto Hightower (which seems messed up in the moment but then we learn that Otto isn’t actually some loyal servant like we’re first led to believe so he is kinda justified with this insult) but then after the funeral scene he seems genuinely concerned about the well-being of Viserys and Rhaenyra. His insults towards Viserys loss of his wife and son seems to come from the fact he is hurt that his brother doesn’t trust him to be his hand. He cares about his brother and like he said he sees the small council for what they truly desire and feels he is the only one that can protect Viserys. He honestly is my favorite character so far
Daemon is anti-hero. Very grey character like Jaime Lannister or the Hound.
Daemon is right about Otto being untrustworthy but Daemon is a loose cannon who should not be in a position of power.
Viserys tries to keep the peace and Daemon is a serious threat to that peace. Now more than ever since he is no longer the heir.
I do feel like Daemon loves Viserys and wants to protect him. I dont think Daemon wants to start a civil war against his brother
You've basically hit the nail on the head with who Daemon is, coming from a book reader. The problem with Supercuts saying he doesn't want Daemon portrayed as a villain is that Daemon is not a good person and does some quite terrible things across the series. It's impossible to avoid those things. I think people coming into this show need to avoid wanting their favourites to be good people, and need to avoid using terms like "protagonist" and "antagonist" as a synonym for morally "good" and "bad". From anyone who has read Fire & Blood, they will know that many of the characters will not fit into these two categories, and that is how people act in real life. I think basically every character is a deuteragonist, and the show has been and will be compelling because of how their relationships between each other and throughout the plot change.
@@cmd7930 Yeah that’s why I really like his character. He wants so desperately to earn the trust of his brother that he makes rash decisions with the hope of quick results like with the gold cloaks chopping up and killing criminals. Then becomes angry that he gets the results but his brother doesn’t recognize it because he disagrees with the means. Now to get stripped of his post and pseudo-exiled by the one he loves the most must be such a knife to the heart. God this show is so good I can’t wait till next Sunday
@@DatPodolski Yeah I disagree with Supercuts. I like the idea of portraying someone as a villain at first and then slowly humanizing them. It hits harder because u hate them so much just to find out they’re actually justified in their actions and makes u as a viewer feel like a bad person for hating them without context. A prime example is Jaime. He’s a cocky douchebag that killed the king with a stab to the back cause he’s a coward. Then u find out he’s not actually a coward because he killed the king to save all of the ppl in the city from being massacred by wildfire.
I live my life judging the character of ppl I meet for myself and not listening to what other ppl have to say about them before I meet them. GOT tricked me into trusting the “protagonist’s” assessment of character without any question because Ned was an honorable man and so how could he be wrong about calling someone a bad person? That’s the beauty of GOT and now HOTD and how they portray characters
And who better to understand Otto than Daemon himself, both being second born sons with no claims to any heritance.
I know a lot of people are kinda indifferent to the cast, but I think they’re great. Matt Smith and Paddy Condisine are easily the standouts, and their scene together in the throne room was fantastic if you ask me
Considine is excellent. Never overacts, seems to give every line the perfect amount of emotion. Feels like a real guy rather than a fantasy king
i think aside from the blackwashing most people are happy with the cast.
I think the casting is perfect!
@@CsDeathshadow 🥺 maybe they'll grow up Sea Snakes look is fuckin awesome
We have to stop comparing this one episode to all of game of thrones/season 1 of game of thrones. Camera work and production was different then, so it makes sense to take advantage of cinematography present day. A lot of the dialogue was taken from Fire and Blood and the dialogue felt very Westeros. The intimate settings, we are going to get plenty of as they aren’t solely doing cgi. They have been filming in similar lands as they did in GoT. The difference is the magic in this show isn’t a secret, so there’s no slow burn to it which would put in place more scenes in intimate settings. This show should not be compared to GoT and should be allowed to become its own thing.
It will naturally be compared to GOT since its a prequel. To expect it not to be compared is foolish.
@@Ready-ForTheEnd, to compare one episode of this show to 4 seasons of GoT is an unfair comparison. It’s hard not to but we have to try our best
@@Ready-ForTheEnd it’s not foolish. They’re two completely different things tied within the same world. Anyone who compares the two is foolish lol because how can you compare A to B when at the end of the day, they are in fact their own entities?
@@Ready-ForTheEnd this is like comparing ww1 to the afghan war just because they taoe place in the same world and had a few similar characters in it
Rhanerya has no intention of breaking any wheel. She just wants to sit on top of it.
I think he misunderstood what "break the wheel" means
Yeah he isn't the greatest at analyzing, but I like to hear everyone's opinion on it.
@@jacobmartz1366 his analysis is so bad😭😭
@@leoc4597 yeah, he complained about things that needed no complaining, like the music themes for starters.
@@jacobmartz1366 literally! i also feel like people are jumping to massive conclusions considering it’s just the pilot😭also like his criticism of the dialogue? the dialogue was great i’m confused
Viserys’ actor was AMAZING! My only complaint is that we didn’t get enough Rhaenyra
Don’t worry cause it’s still the first episode, shit would be lit in the next episodes 🔥
She’s still a kid here. I can’t wait to see grown Rhaenyra in action 😰
Its not dany’s theme, its the targyrean theme. The themes in westeros are always house themes not character themes. Frozen north and stark themes, the rains of castemere, these are house themes that play for all the characters
3:56 it’s not Daenerys’s leitmotif playing when we see Rhaenyra on her dragon. It’s the dragon leitmotif. Dany and her dragons have two distinct musical themes - you hear the dragon leitmotif whenever the dragons are around, and Dany’s leitmotif in other contexts, like the Mhysa scene at the end of season 3, the finale of season 1, and when Dany burns the Khals in season 5, etc etc. I don’t imagine Djawadi will bring back Dany’s theme in House of the Dragon, but I think it is understandable that we will hear the dragon leitmotif and see it develop in new and interesting ways in this story. Musical storytelling is important, and since the dragons are the focus of this show, to me it makes sense to carry over the musical idea we most associate with them.
I understand feeling apprehensive about the show, but at the same time it seems to me like there's way too much nitpicking in this video. You are comparing one episode with a whole season, even if you don't realize it, specially when it comes to memorable dialogue. Let the season play out
100% agree with you. He's being way to picky and desperately wanting to be the same when it's already been done and the audience would immediately get bored of it. We already introduce to the world. We don't need another game of thrones season 1.
yep, theres legit only been one episode lmao
It's going to be hard for RUclipsrs who built their audience around criticising GOT to post positive reviews, they have to change their whole format and lose part of their audience who only wants to hear complaining no matter what happens.
@@telltellyn Ha! So true. 😆 A show that’s actually good does not benefit RUclips critics. Especially if the sequel or prequel is based on popular IP. it’s truly sad, tbh.
I feel like this guy is more of GOT fan than a ASOIAF fan and he seems to want to see low key fantasy with a lot of politics than what George created for his universe. This is a time of a lot of dragons and the targaryens were always related to magic. So I think he will not like but still this video was all about nitpicking, a very weak review.
You are really really reaching here with the complaints. They aren’t obsessed with Dany they are just trying to give casuals something to relate to. I don’t think her character is being set up anything like Dany. I recommend you let the story develop more before all this unnecessary complaining
FAX. But this guy complains/praises/obsesses over ASOIAF for a living so what can you do. My main complaint was the over-the-topness of the action. Like Daemon hits the streets and just starts merking people or how the tourney just randomly devolves into a death match. It's fucking comical 😂 still a great start tho.
Yo, most of the video is him praising the show. You fanboys have started again. Mild criticism is apparently too much
@@MA-go7ee Haha nah most of the video is little nitpicks, it being overall positive doesn't change that most of the video was very clearly searching for stuff to criticise. After the cesspit that was the later seasons of GOT it will be hard for him to change if this show keeps up this quality.
@@declansmyth1973 For a living, yet didn't finish reading F&B, smh. But yeah, I also took it as them making a point to remind casuals that this story is way before GOT timeline. And if I hadn't read the book, I'd have thought the GC were just brutalizing citizens at first. All they had to do to fix that was show Daemon telling his boyz to round up all the usual suspects. I am not a screen writer.
They literally gave all of Daenerys' traits and turn it into a Targaryen thing lol again the showrunners failing to understand the source material.
I may be wrong in this, but I read somewhere that the scene of Viserys telling Rhaenyra about the long night and the song of ice and fire was actually GRRM idea, and is directly connect to the end of the books, not the end of the TV Show.
Rebooted seasons 5-8 when?
This is half right. GRRM confirmed that Aegon had a dragon dream which motivated him to conquer Westeros, the show then adapted that as the Targaryens passing down the secret heir to heir. They also connected it with the dagger. Both those aspects are show only though.
Yeah I can imagine, early on Martin never mentioned that regarding Aegon's conquest but since he has apparently add this subplot to his motivation to conquer the land, which is a game changer no doubt. Im not sure if I like it or not, but I am very assured that George will develop this in his next two books and connect it Aegon's Conquest to the prophecy of the "Prince that was promised", but I suspect that in Martin's writing this secret was lost in time (maybe the show will follow that) after so many wars between the Targaryens because we know Rhaegar had a dream about this (which would be kind of the same dream Aegon had hundred years prior). But we will def know the truth about this by the end of A Song of Ice and Fire, if George ever finishes it lol
@@italianodblaugrana3842 the actors got older not happening
Also most people wouldn't want that, we just have to live with how Thrones ends
@@MajorMlgNoob sad days
4:10 dude that's not Daenerys's theme, that's the official theme of house targaryen
yeah
I thought Rhaenyra had some good lines like “I’m comfortable in this position” and “I wonder that if in the hours that my brother was alive my father finally found happiness”
As someone who’s basically just watched game of thrones a few times and hasn’t read the books or know much other lore, I thought it was cool to meet new characters like Hightower and Corlys for the first time while they dealt with political stuff. I feel like I got the foundational characterization I needed from who we’ve met so far. The show is off to a great start for me, can’t wait to see where it goes.
Clearly you didnt because it was "Rhaenyra" who said those lines and not "Rhaenys". Rhaenys is the older woman, the wife of Corlys Velaryon. The black guy with white dreadlocks
@@tondajenej3449 my mistake, these are new characters for me with a lot of similar names and I just typed the wrong one even after googling her name to put the e in the right place lol
@@tondajenej3449 what do you mean, “clearly you didn’t”? I messed up a name that’s a couple letters off another name. The characterization they got still stands. Seems pretty unnecessary since I said I don’t know much about the show and wanted to point out some good dialogue lol
@@alexspace9878 youre right. That was unnecessary.
@@alexspace9878 Then again, if you should get someones name right, it should be the main character's
You have to remember that George r Martin approved EVERY SINGLE EPISODE he has seen it. He stands behind it. So what we see on the screen is what he wants to give us. So to be fair. We shouldn’t confuse what we want vrs what will be .
And I think it’s good that they mentioned Daenerys. She was legendary. But also I believe that they will try in some ways to connect the shows together . That’s why I believe we are getting the SNOW series.
I actually think they will go with the theory that Arrax laid a clutch of eggs in the crypts of Winterfell and then they'll use those inthe SNOW series
who cares if he stands behind it? he allowed the other two morons to ruin the last show. him supporting it doesn't stop others from having an opinion.
The long night will be addressed in SNOW. There’s no other reason to drop that .
@@Keke50987 and how do you know it will be? There is no outline for the show yet.
I have to disagree with you on the music. It is very smart of the producers to use some of the same, very recognizable music. About 50 % of what makes GoT for me is the music. Music is the heart of a good film or series like this. Plus, the intro theme playing while we saw Rhaenya(?) fly made me think of the good ol' GoT and I had a surge of nostalgia.
Yes. I dislike how he called it "Daenerys' theme" when it's for House Targaryen as a whole.
I swear I was smiling so goofy at the dragon scene with the music. Gave me super nostalgia feels also!
Nostalgia is what is wrong in my opinion, they CAN make something new with their amazing roster of musicians.
Of course I don't mind having some, specifically in the first episode, I will greatly dislike it if it continues.
Nostalgia is looking back, not making new that is the same after all.
If they make new tracks that are as amazing, that would just be better. As they did, in the ending, "the prince that was promised" by Ramin Djawadi was amazing.
@@linuskentrevtorp New themes for specific characters but I think the themes for the houses should be the same. It's an unnecessary change.
@@hunterhorsehelmsley7315 That sounds like the best yes, but I don't fully agree that Daenerys theme is for the Targaryen house, it is never used for something except her, and she is the only one alive.
I don't think the Rhaegar scene or any of Viserys used that theme at all, did they?
Anyhow, I'd love to see a new Targaryen theme that reflects this era well, and also I just like new themes because they often turn out very good when Ramin is in the lead.
That was not really Daenerys s theme I think. It's like a targaryen Or drogon theme and really fit well with episode.
And i think we should give more time for it to develop and stop comparing it to the original show. Yes sometimes I feel like they should made it more like non movie like feel, (if u know what I mean) and it was awkward seeing steamy scenes because it was like in a movie.
I also always thought of it as the "Dragon" theme, which only so happens to obviously occur when Daenerys is on screen as well, since she is the only one with dragons.
The theme never plays when she *isn't* on her dragon, so I believe thats also what the writers had in mind.
Yeah, it's the Targaryan theme. It's not the Dragons' theme though, they have their own theme which you might have noticed when the Drogon burned the slave master. It is used in conjunction though, since as you know Targaryans>dragons
Way too harsh a review, it was a sensational episode, felt like an antidote to the media influenced by Marvels over the top corny rubbish…it was grounded, realistic and took itself serious
Idk why he is crying about the dialogue as well, i honestly dare anyone to give me a single GoT episode with as many great lines as in this episode. He's basically nitpicking every good dialogue from Seasons 1 to 4, ignoring all the ones that weren't memorable at all, and complains why we didn't get as many in a single episode.
"The gods are yet to make a man who lacks the patience for absolute power" ~Otto Hightower
"My wife and son are dead. I will not sit here and suffer crows that come to feast on their corpses" ~Viserys
“I wonder that if in the hours that my brother was alive my father finally found happiness” ~Rhaenyra
Also both dialogues between Viserys and Daemon in the Throne Room, as well as the one in Valyrian between Rhaenyra and Daemon were amazing.
@@Goetterkomplex_ it’s a critic for the sake of critiquing
@@broneobraonain8506 Nope, he was absolutely on point, Hell, he was merciful. This show is destined to be a dumpster fire and that first episode was basically just something to watch with one's brain turned off, munching on popcorn or something. I dearly wish I could get the one hour I spent watching that trash back.
Literally one episode. The dialogue tends to come with more conflict. This was introductory, so let's wait.
It's not Danys theme. It's the Targaryan theme imo.
It is, it was basically a theme that was played whenever Jon interacted with the dragon
@@weirdo4801 Jon* sorry
@@a.a677 true, will fix, thanks for noticing
Get well soon legend :)
When the King cut himself on the chair, I took that as symbolizing that he drew first blood by casting his brother way.
and it's believed if the throne cuts you it's a sign you're unworthy
@@JosephAtkinson987 They must have skipped that in GoT or Joffrey would have been torn to pieces.
Ngl I didn’t agree with 50% of the stuff you said I enjoyed the whole ep and didn’t really see anything I didn’t like, maybe that’s because I’m a dumb viewer but I loved it personally. the only thing I can criticised is some of the vfx but that was only for a few shots, good video mate keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Nah it has nothing to do with you being a dumb viewer. This episode did everything it needed to do and more and more as the first episode. He is just unnecessarily nitpicking
When he said "he called the dream a song of ice and fire" my eye roll was audible
1 episode in: “not as good as GoT”
Give it time man!!
tbh the only thing that is missing for me was some sort of comedic relief, something like Robert or Tyrion. Everyone loved them because of the range of emotions they were able to inflict on a viewer, in this show all the characters are very dramatic, a bit too dramatic.
We only saw first episode there is whole lot to come, i am sure there will be some character those make witty conic remarks and crowd cheer :)
idk daemon being an idiot to the squire was funny to me lol
The absolute need to throw in comic relief is so overrated and honestly overly saturated in todays media.
Dude, it's 1 episode.
And it's off to a good start.
Let's enjoy HoTD as a companion piece to GoT without having to compare them.
Wasn’t good as game of thrones? Please specify which part. The writing surpasses at least season 6 onwards (for me) but feels on par with the first half.
I personally didnt like the cutaways in the fighting scene. Too much going on. The dialogue was boring too. The dragons were nice too. My favorite character was the baby then the baby died. Everyone else is meh but time will tell. The hightowers seem interesting.
Idk why but I feel like you’re already a little over critical of this show over small issues. Although you say it’s good I feel like your nit picking. It’s one episode. Give it time and flesh out
The episode was great. I only wished that there were more scenes with Rhaenyra and Aemma since in the book hardly anything was said about their relationship. For me Matt Smith’s acting was outstanding in reflecting Daemon‘s personality. The Velaryon children not having any dialogue was a little weird so I hope they don’t get replaced by the older versions in episode 2
I've waiting for your video since the episode came out
Good job !
The first episode was solid 👌, they really gave their all to bring this story to life. I hope they maintain the quality 🙏
I thought the first episode was really solid. Not groundbreaking but still good dialogue imo. The biggest problem I have is with the wig maker for the Targaryen’s…
My favorite bit was the fact that they actually went deep into showing the jousting tournament. I love this kind of stuff and it reminded me of S1 GoT. A Knight's Tale is one of my guilty pleasure films.
As a woman, watching the birth scene was extremly upsetting and left me in tears for the rest of the episode. But I also appreciate the reality of pregnancy portrayed, especially now.
Men can get upset too you know
@@kingrobert7246 uh sure... but she can say as a woman here without you getting bent out of shape. It's probably a little harder for a man to imagine what it would be like to have a breached pregnancy and forced c section.
I was waiting for your review, didn't bother to look at it until my lord commander approves.
Wishing you a speedy recovery as well!
i feel like they mentioned dany in the opening title because theres obviously a significant amount of ppl who arent too familar with the show or books BUT have heard/seen dany (Emilia Clark) because of how popular her character was or because of all the negative attention the last season got...not to mention this is about the TARGARYENS there were only like 4 living known targaryens in game of thrones DANY being the most known it makes sense to bring her up when covering her ancestors
I'd understand being upset if they had pulled some shit like "190 years before King Bran the Broken" or some bs, but linking them to Daenerys who is like the number 1 person people think of when they hear "Targaryen" makes absolute sense
@@Goetterkomplex_ if they pulled a king bran the broken I'd have immediately stopped watching 🤣🤣🤣
@@User-s23-m937sqrz LOOL it would be a jab straight to the heart
@@Goetterkomplex_ definitely 😂😂😂
@@User-s23-m937sqrz lmao sameeeeee
I personally hope they feel free to take liberties to "retcon" the previous series, as if to suggest the long night will actually be significant, Jon's lineage and resurrection isn't pointless, and the prince that was promised actually means something.
Well game of thrones seasons 5-8 are pretty much just weird fan fiction so I wouldn’t exactly call it retconning.
bro the introduction of daemon in the throne room was epic...cant wait to see him use his dark sister in a proper battle...
I liked when Lyonel strong got cut off by Otto. Lynoel is known to talk slow
The birth scene was a really disturbing scene which took me back to the early seasons of GOT where some scenes where just really difficult to watch. Also Rhys Ifans was easily the best actor of the episode, it's going to be really fun to watch him in coming seasons.
Bruh its just Ep1 nd people are expecting some masterpiece right out of the gate
Give it some time
I have high hopes for this show
2:56 this was the first thing I said once the episode ended; the show really assumed you were already pretty well versed in the Westeros Universe
I loved this first episode.Hopefully they will set up and adapt the events of The Dance of the Dragons war
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The whole point of this show is to adapt the Dance of the Dragons. They just started a few decades ahead to set the scene.
Just to say about Daenerys' theme, it's not really HER theme. It's the Targaryan house theme. If you notice, each house has their own theme. The Starks, Aryns, Lannisters, Martels and Tyrells all have their own respective themes. You just see Daenerys followed by the Targaryan theme because she is technically the only Targaryan that we knew of. The only individuals I'd say that had their very own Leit Motifs (character themes) in Game of Thrones would be Petyr Baelish/Littlefinger, Dany's three dragons and Lyanna and Rheagar's love. The rest are all focusing on the families, not the individual characters.
rhaenyra feels way more like an arya type of character than daenerys imo. She talked about wanting to be a knight and explore, and not be locked down to being queen. This in cotrast to Daenerys whose entire personality trait was about claiming the throne. Polar opposites imo.
Dany didn't really have much of a choice but be 'I want the throne' as 'I want the throne' means 'The king or queen in westeros doesn't try to assassinate me and any potential children I may have if I am the queen of westeros'. Arya's desire to be a knight, warrior, travel is distorted by her deep desire to inflict vengeance on those who wronged her family later on. I think if Dany were in a safe and stable position as a child, she would have different ambitions and interests.
@@boxedlife789 So what you just wrote is a repeat of what I just wrote? Or does "Arya's desire to be a knight, warrior, to travel is distorted by her deep desire to inflict vengeance on those who wronged her family later on." mean something different? Do you read before you write?
I hope they still use locations like Croatia for the outside scenes in the Red Keep's gardens, you could feel the green screen behind the heart tree lmao
4:01 I totally disagree with you on this point. That shot is perfect only with that soundtrack 👌🏼Although I'm sure that we're gonna hear new themes but still I want to listen GOT theme music mixed up with the new theme music
"The gods have yet to make a man who lacks the patience for absolute power." - for me, that was the line of the episode
It’s got me hooked again. I’ve watched the episode 3 times, I don’t know why but my favorite character so far is Daemon. Corlys actor is also incredible and super excited for the next episode.
Yo…..my favorite actor so far is Corlys. Man…the way he throws looks of disdain at everyone has me cracking the hell up. He kind of reminds me of my older uncles….just super rigid. Also, another great moment…when Rhaenyra went to pour him a cup and Corlys quickly covers his cup with his hand, and didn’t even look at her. Holy shit, I couldn’t stop laughing. 😆
This is the only video I've watched that addressed some of the same issues I had with the first episode and didn't just talk about how great it was for 10 minutes, thank you.
"1:38 This place reminded me the S2 scene between Littlefinger and Cersei where Petyr said: ,,Knowledge is power.'' I was happy that I remembered the great scenes like this instead of the trash which is S8.
Great, great start!!! My husband and I watched: myself a fan of the books and my hubby only watched GoT. Great sharing of points of view
"10 yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars you have been the king, and yet you have never asked me to be your hand" - I really loved how Matt Smith spoken this sentence. I also agree with that dialogues are weaker than GOT and they have more focused on filming than writing. Ireally miss Tywin writing a letter while ignoring his chilren and conversations of Baelish and varys
I really enjoyed the episode, for a pilot episode and having to introduce many key characters and reintroduce the audience to the world in such a different time, I think it did a good job at that. I really enjoy the characters and how they're not so cut and dry, like Daemon being a bit of a tool but Viserys siding with him on the city guard, Otto Hightower acting as hand of the king as well as seeking to elevate position through his daughter and using the king's suffering, it's such a cool start and I hope all that continues.
Admittedly, the birthing scene was difficult to watch, but that was the point, so well done. The one thing that perhaps didn't sit great with me was Viserys talking to Rhaenyra about the song of Ice and fire. I did expect we'd get bits and pieces like this since the targaryens are about as entrenched in prophesy as they are inbred, but this one in particular seemed a little bit convenient for what we already know, especially since we know how underwhelming it actually ends up being. Otherwise, I'm very on board with this so far
"The blood of the dragon runs thick."
"Then why do you cut me so deep?"
I really liked hese lines and their delivery felt really emotional.
The end part where Considine tells the family secret about dream of A song of Ice and Fire was a bad move. They should have kept this series from s8. Unless they plan something big, like in Snow show.
Otherwise , quite good characters, not as memorable and audience-friendly as Jon and Tyrion, Ned and Arya.
The rest is pretty on top, since it's fucking HBO.
I guess, at the end of s1 we can make up our minds whether this show can fill the void in our hearts after gargantuan fuckup of an ending.
Respectfully, I think everything you said was perfectly on point until you brought up the birth scene.
As someone who hasn't read the books and not watched all of GoT, it did at times become difficult to know who was who. I think rewatching it would let me find out better though, and I don't mind being thrown right into the atmosphere.
Additionally, Daemon has some interesting scenes with the king, but aside from that is coming off pretty strong to me as a villain. I'd like to see more of his personal development come through to make up for the gold cloak situation.
I understand that it has a different feeling for everyone, but as a woman, there are very few horrors greater than what was displayed in this scene.
There is absolutely not a singular spark of feeling, anywhere in me, for the king now. Nothing. Nothing he says about his mourning matters. He doesn't deserve to mourn. No feeling he displays relevant to them matters. He betrayed his wife in one of the most horrific and vulnerable spaces you ever could. His entire development is gone for me now.
She was coherent, speaking to him. She wasn't dying, or flailing, or anything like that. By all means, there was no reason to LITERALLY MURDER her. He was impossibly selfish and deserved to lose them for it. She wanted to live, clearly.
They could have done away with the traumaporn aspect by having him speak to a dazed queen who wanted desperately for him to save their child. Unfortunately, they didn't. I don't have WORDS to express the brutality of it. It doesn't matter what he does after this because he can never ever be seen as anything other than one of the vilest men who would betray his loving wife at a time when she needs him and that protection most.
Her scene with Rhaenyra rings in my mind as a reminder of historic horror. This is what people think we are for. We are not people to them. We are only birthing machines. If that is what this was meant to carry, it did so excellently, and it certainly SEEMS to convey some of that message!
The scene itself and the acting and everything is WONDERFUL, but it looks like they somehow still expected us to... what? feel bad for him? In some of the interviews they discussed him being a good man but a bad king, but it isn't ever possible for him to be a "good man" now. I just don't think they realized the actual horror of what he did, and somehow that is worse than the character doing it. That they could write it and think it ever possible to look beyond again.
This is a very long comment but I'm interested in seeing if anyone else feels this way... like. It's simply not possible to move him beyond this for me.
I too am a woman, and I feel the same way. The Queen died in a horrible way, sacrificed to a political need for a male heir. It was a monstrous action on the King's part, and if I were his daughter I would hate him with all my heart.
@@rociomiranda5684 they baby was turned, she would have died anyways.
@@FuzzygamingRP I wonder when they said lose one or both could he have chosen to save her instead of the baby or was she always doomed to die?
No, she was going to die either way
I totally agree. He is unforgivable, his grief meaningless. It hurts him because he ordered the murder of his wife. The writers have said his punishment is coming for this choice.
Aemma could have been saved, the baby sacrificed and removed from her. If not that, as he wants the heir, there are methods to turn the baby internally in breech, medieval methods, that midwives knew. Even talking to his wife, telling her what she has to do for the babys life and letting her accept it would have been better. Offering her a large dose of poppy milk and operating once she fell asleep could have been tried. Anything but cold blooded, restrained murder. He is a murderer, and I look forward to his punishment. It was an unbearable scene to watch for any woman. It may be a fictional example but my soul weeps for the female ancestors who came before us. Thank you for your comment amongst a sea of willing ignorance.
You're absolutely right about the excessive cuts and during the fight while I was watching it there were some times that a character would be in a losing position but with a cut they would be doing just fine in the fight.
Otto Hightower is currently my favourite character. His whole attitude just fits in the world of a song of ice and fire.
Personally i think episode 1 of this show is much better with information about characters than ep 1 of GoT for example the first time we see Tyrion is in a Brothel we legit don't know anything about John Aryn personally i didnt even know Jamie and Cersei were siblings until they told us Robert saying I kill him every night who??? Rhaegar everyone forgto about him till season 7 Robert and Ned talking about his Rebellion without saying any important thing exept Bessy
Yeah when I watched season 1 for the first time in 2012 I didn't even know about ASOIAF and it was quite hard keeping track about the who is who and context of it all.
You can't really compare one episode of Hot D to the whole show of GoT. But I was pleasantly surprised and am excited to watch more.
I completely disagree with you when it comes to the dialogue and presenting Daemon as a villain. He's very much a gray character in this episode.
Here's a quotable line, tat cuts deep , *“I wonder, during those few hours my brother lived, my father finally found happiness,”* -Rhaenyra.
Rhaenyra has a bit of Daenerys and a bit of Arya and maybe the point is exatcly to place her there with the music and everything. For someone who dindnt read the books it's a perfect presentation.
The foreshadowing is stellar too.
That first-person camera of the jousting was insane. Makes me hope someone makes a jousting VR game if there isn't one already.
This is harder to write because there aren't any particular scenes from the ASOIAF books to draw dialogue and setting from, only facts and relationships so this show has to be more creative and already it shows that it's good.
Never thought Id say this about got, but I think they used violence a bit too much. In got when we did see violence it was in your face unrelenting but still shocking and served a purpose. In this show it feels like it was in every other scene and a little much (imo)
I always considered the theme for Dany the theme of the Targaryen house as a whole. Each House had it's own motifs in the original show and I enjoyed hearing it again.
And I thought I was the only one who absolutely loved the actor playing Otto Hightower. He is literally perfect for the role - I haven't read the books but I hope he is important to the story and we see more of him.
I will respectfully have to disagree with most..1, the dialogues are like gold to me (comparing to season 5-7), and again it's only ep1, most of the quotable GOT lines comes later in the show anyway. 2.It doesn't seem like they are establishing Daemon as a villain to me, he just looks like an arrogant prince with a good heart, Otto looks more sinister lol, and both of them are cool and smart. 3. Why do they have to establish all the side characters that fast? Even in GOT season 1 it took me several episodes to be fully clear about what houses and what positions people are.
Episode was going all well until Viserys started talking about the winter and I got the Arya Stark killing Night King flashbacks
Even though I knew how that will end :( , I somehow still got the goosebumps when Viserys said it….
That line about Matt smith being balls deep after watching him in doctor who for so long is JOOOOKES 😂😂 so true
Been looking forward to your review of this
This show has me excited as hell i think season 2 will be better than one tho just do to source material but rn their making somthing out of nothing
Loving HOTD so far, Daemon and Rhaenyra are amazing
I know some people didnt care for the where viserys goes " instead of supporting me or rhynera, YOU CHOSE TO CELEBRATE YOUR OWN RISE" that was a powerful delivery
waiting for this episode for so long now
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Very good points. I agree with pretty much all of them. I liked the episode but some dialogue scenes seemed a bit generic and forced to me
But overall it was decent for the opening of the show.
Here's to hoping the show won't end up in the same situation as GOT S8
But that is only possible if the writers kinda forget how to write
I mean contrary to GoT they got a finished story from GRRM. Realistically, we already know pretty much how Season 4 will end.
It's way harder to fuck this up than with the original series
You hit it right on the head with Otto Hightower being a mix of Tywin and Baelish
Daemon Targaryen has the potential to be the GOAT character from GRRM and poster boy for the entire franchise the way Vader is to Star Wars. The writers better do him right.
You are comparing too much with GOT. It was a masterpiece. HOD is different, My heart also wants to expirience every single feeling that i felt with got, but watching hod had its good share too. The only thing i didnt understand was why people were killing in tourneys i thought it must be borderline friendly as high lords take part in it but except that the episode flew by in a blink
it makes me so mad to see people formulate opinions on somebodys elses job and efforts so quickly.
Yeah i know, one episode in and everyone critiques and picks it a part. It's what people do these days though.
They get paid millions per episode. Nobody is exempt from criticism. I'm sure they are wiping their tears with fat stacks of cash.
@@Ready-ForTheEnd I was more making the point that a lot of people judge a story before it has the chance to be told.. like comparing GOT and HOTD already?? i mean cmon lol
Although I utterly agree with you that the show should avoid manicheism at all cost, I really like how they highlighted Daemon’s dark side.
I watched the show with my dad who I only told that the new show is about a “conflict of succession with dragons”. So by the end of ep 1x01 he was convinced that Rhaenyra was the nice truthful heir, and Daemon the bad usurper. It was all crystal clear to him.
So I truly believe these scenes are meant to build in for the following episodes, to add this “owww, so *that* were the two sides, didn’t see that coming”
Best review so far❣