REBEL MOON Review and ENDING EXPLAINED - Was Child of Fire Any Good?
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Rebel Moon sets up a new Star Wars-ish universe--with interesting new characters and a stunning visual style. But is it actually good?
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It would have been way better as a 7-8 episode series where each episode we get to see the backstory of each of the heroes
literally like the movie felt soooo rushed, i liked the visuals but man the writing is just not it
No, better with no backstory at all... In 30 years do bad Solo or good Rogue1... Oh, wait, correction skip backstory, focus on actual story and don't distract or deviate
I personally love stories told in movie form. Can’t be that experience
@@menmavfxx maybe because it is a two parter movie and don't say any nonsense that this is just stupid or zack does not know what he is doing
Yep.
Ir was so rushed.
An 8 episode series with a movie afterwards would've been way better
"Krull" is a perfect example of a movie showing how a band of rebels are put together, telling their story (without rushing) and moves along. All told in 1 movie in under 2 hrs.
Go and watch part 2 tralier of the rebel moon before complaining about not showing the backstories
@@KafuKemeh know the difference between complaining and pointing out a flaw that was done better somewhere else. No movie is perfect and nowhere in my statement did I complain. Read thoroughly next time before commenting.
@@planetbrooklynacademy i guess so but making claims that snyder does not know what he is doing
Seven Samurai has spawned so many movies it crazy.
I was thinking I was watching a modern remake of Battle Beyond the Stars lol
Halfway through A New Hope I was invested in all the characters and the story, this movie, I really didn’t care what happened to any of the characters
You gotta hand it to Snyder for doing a really intense reimagining of “A Bug’s Life”
Thats funny!
That's exactly what I told my boyfriend
Perfect Analogy! 😂😂😂
That’s literally what I said!
This is the best comment
I would like to see a Snyder movie written by an A tier writer. He has the visuals mastered but man.
100% was thinking the same 😂 That was rough 😳
I mean Nolan was involved in writing man of steel
Zack can work as a freelance visual art advisor to a bunch of films diirected by others.Why not?
His story telling is abysmal...
I would raather see every movie on earth visual art enhanced and coached during production by Zack S. Let ZS contribute where he is good at for the good of all.
"Why did they go with Han?" Because they didn't have a choice, he was the only pilot willing to do the job, no questions asked.
Not really. Obi-Wan and Luke didn’t just bump into Han and Chewie and then reluctantly go with them onboard the Falcon. They hired him after interviewing him and Chewie. Granted, they didn’t have the time to vet out other candidates, but, as is stated in this video, they were told by _someone_ that Han had the fastest ship.
You both are proving the point that you've each gained plenty of context given to the characters in Star Wars as to their motivations, & thus an example of good storytelling as opposed to Rebel Moon which didn't do as well...
@@AlMoSiCe210yup. Lol
Han was desperate. There was a bounty on his head. "No questions." "No imperial entanglements." These are a big ask. No pilot who isn't desperate would say yes to these requirements. Nobody running from imperial heat could find a more legitimate pilot.
@@eyespy3001It was not a race in the first place.What is the point of being the fastest in the first place?They just wanted a spac ride in a ship equipped with a hyperdrive with a space pilot whom they can trust.
I thought it was quite convoluted jumping from one contrived scene to another. Let's find the next warrior we need and see an example of why they're so special. Next.
We didn't have that with every warrior tho. Just two of them.
I feel like this story should’ve been told over a season of TV. Like 12 episodes.
You’ve summed it up perfectly.
It really reminds me of Luc Besson’s Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. So much visual world building, but no character, no character growth… it was clunky!
Valerian is still 1000 times better than this shit movie.
Valerian had so much more story and background than thismspecial effects oprea
@@eddiek8179, What are you smoking? Valerian was 2 characters, developed over the course of a single movie. This has 7 and it had to rush them to fit them, so it could also do the whole Warhammer 40k thing too.
The backstory isn't necessary, you just lack the brains.
@@TheNefariousFox The irony of someone so utterly bereft of critical thinking calling someone else lacking brains is stupendous. Don't be disingenuous - Valerian has more than 2 characters that occupy the movie. There are multiple of characters in there with a lot of screen time. Snyder had to rush to fit the 7 in the story? Really? You do realize an ensemble in a movie is pretty normal, right? One where they have tons more characters than this movie and they could do justice with the characters, right?
Both Magnificent 7s (where Snyder cribs from) had multiple characters and they managed to do more than fine. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Oceans ELEVEN, Knives Out, Inception, Dune, Tropic Thunder, Pulp Fiction are just some of the examples of movies succeeding with multiple characters with even more dynamic and complex plots than Rebel Moon. Snyder has a skill issue. Actually, scratch that - he has MANY skill issues. Stop simping for an incompetent director. The main reason he couldn't give screen time to the characters to breathe is because he spent so much unnecessary time on slow motion shots on unnecessary moments as well as having characters meander while speechifying. Warhammer 40K is an aesthetic - it can occupy any scene simultaneously without interruption. Why should an aesthetic need more runtime or displace character moments? You really know nothing about film, do you?
Im constantly amazed (not in a good way) how people think you "hate" someone just because you dont like something they did 😅😂
Yes, I’ve even heard them saying, You said you don’t like it, that means you hate it. 🤷
I hate you VS I hate what you've created
Zack Snyder seems like a cool guy. Dogshit director tho
These are words not meant to be real. Like "love" and "faith", they're sometimes uttered to express a fake emotion just to give them some realism. For example, I love Funyons! But I would never marry, support, or commit my life to one. lol. This type of slang should be obvious and that's why it's so common and accepted
@@joonbug4340no . Totally understand not liking something. It’s subjective. It’s that there ARE people that say I hated that movie!” That’s weird. They are two different things. 👍🏻
This thing is like if you let Zach Snyder make a Star Trek: Discovery / Star Wars: Obi-Wan omelet and threw some Dune in for spice. There's some good flavors but it's just an omelette.
With a huge dash of Warhammer 40k
I'll be shocked if Snyder isn't sued by Games Workshop
Spice, good one.
@@raydrexler5868 I'm happy one person got that joke. Merry Christmas!🍻🎅
The amount of slow motion was incredible, lost it when they slow motioned korah flipping her cape
There's actually slow-mo inside the slow mo scenes too. He slow-mos the slow-mo. It's ridiculous.
They could’ve just shot the spider lady. Though, the lady wouldn’t be able to show her swords skills.
I wondered why they didn’t open up after the little girl was clear. Especially when she got knocked down, totally could’ve helped. Maybe we needed a “Stay out of this” from Nemesis before the fight.
@@sampatterson2434he tryna bank it for the 4 hour "snyder" cut😂
lol and they way everyone was just standing there and watching like 4 feet away
Why didn't laser sword lady start with the laser swords in laser mode? Like, why not just come out full power rather than wait for the dramatic moment to fire up the super swords?
They wanted to test the sword lady to see if she is worthy in a fight ig.
The Zack Snyder/Jack Kirby analogy is the best take on Snyder I've heard. Well done.
Visually it is awesome! The robots, the space ships, the creatures, the tech....love it! too many expositions tho but I did have fun with it tho
Same
Seems most agree that this should've been put forth as a tv series...especially when needing to do worldbuilding for such a massive deal. I believe The Expanse nailed this very well and Rebel Moon would've benefited far more from a fleshed out S1 versus some two part movie.
If they make a tv series, i will not get to watch it😢
That's assuming there's any ability to write the character depth people want to see. I don't think time was the issue. It's intended this way by the filmmaker. How much do you want to bet that all of the follow-up shows and movies are going to have the same problem?
It felt like There was a slight more emphasis on the “universe “than the actual characterizations I’m okay with the 7 samurai approach but they didn’t push for any small interactions between characters
Totally agree. Random thought about the movie: It felt like every five minutes a ship was landing and taking off. I was so bored I kept skipping forward and they never stayed ina place long enough to appreciate anything
man.. after i've seen the movie, i really felt the Samurai 7 vibe.... nahh.. should do the series, might be better than movie.. so much to introduce.. not much we know about it though..
I've always thought Zach Snyder thinks of movies as series of images, not as a comprehensive story. As a result, he makes movies that contain visually stunning scenes, but the story that connects them is generally lacking.
He is at is his best when he is telling a very simple story w/ very black/white, good/evil characters, like 300. Make him tell a more complex story w/ nuanced characters, he's going to struggle.
Especially when he's involved with the writing it gets even worse.
@@Tookieslamthe issue though is that he genuinely thinks he’s a really really good writer
@@bigdadybojangls9219the way y’all talk about writing shows you don’t understand what it takes to successfully translate a film to the big screen. You can be a good writer, and still not have your story translate well to the big screen. It’s a number of things, a perfect example being the exposition he complains about in this video. Exposition and internal monologue work well in novel or a comic, but it can present major issues in a film.
That’s an interesting take. I partially agree because Snyder movies read more like actual comic panels, where you turn the page and significant jumps in the story have to happen. I watch them FOR that reason.
You're half right at least
Rebel Moon is just the Synder Cut of A Bug's Life
That slow motion shot of Kora reaching to touch the animal’s feathers was fucking phenomenal
It's just funny that the plot is just "the force unleashed"
Like seriously the exact plot
Just watched Rebel Moon..... It's basically Zack Snyder mashing up Battle Beyond the Stars mixed with Warhammer 40k. Kind of feels like Netflix heard Henry Cavill was going to make a Warhammer 40k series on Amazon and they wanted to beat them to the punch
and failed miserabley at it, I was reading that Henry and the crew is going to a lot of trials and errors to get the story just right, I tell you man let that come out this shite movie will be forever forgotten
I saw the comments on “Krull”. Seriously underrated movie! You cared about Colwyn and the Cyclops, and even Urgo the magnificent! Small of stature, wide of vision, and so forth! The child scene where “Urgo” turns himself into a puppy just so the child can feel the love of a puppy. Great heartfelt story telling, with little exposition.”Krull” like “Highlander”, are some of the best sci-fi/fantasy films of the 80’s. If Zack would do a modern version with his visual talent of those films, but not mess with the original script, I would pay serious money to watch those. Zack’s talent is in visuals, not story telling! The Beast, roasted alive by Colwyn and Lyssa’s love! Love always conquers evil, just as great storytelling conquers eye candy! Holla!
A Krull remake would been amazing btw...
@@Duderino27 Yes! Let Zack direct it, make sure it’s PG-13, and have either the original writer if he is still living or the two that did a majority of the MCU Movies! Thanks for reaching back!
Regarding what she said about why they trusted and went with Han in Star Wars: she said we were ok with it because we know and love those characters now? No, it made sense for them to go with Han because they were looking for transport. Nothing more. They didn’t try to recruit him for a rebellion - not initially anyway. In Rebel Moon, the characters make inexplicable, or at least, very questionable choices.
Just got done watching the film after being very interested so I haven't digested my thoughts properly yet but I will say I didn't find the film to be fulfilling at all and some stuff had me going "huh?" like the officers uniforms. The soldiers gear and how it went from golden to gritty was a nice touch but the officers uniforms were to "Third Reich" on the nose for me and I know a lot of stories, Star Wars being the number one, take inspirations from the WW2 Germans but they make it work where as the Imperium looks to campy. The jumps to the different characters being added to the crew was way to fast and left me with not really caring about who was who. The action and weapons scenes were the best part of the movie imo.
Having watched a few Synder films I can agree overall that he just not that guy when it comes to story telling.
The uniforms look more like Warhammer uniforms than straight WWII German ones. Although I’m sure those were modeled after the reich uniforms. They’re even called the Imperium.
@@alexmartin3143 I know this makes no sense but idk it just didn't seem to fit. Ciaphas Cain is kick ass!! 😁
I remember watching the trailer as an ad. The first few scenes in, I’m like “This looks like a Synder film set in Star Wars.”
And then his name popped up.
On IMDb someone said it's more like Flash Gordon. I had the same feeling and like it from that perspective. They could have done bit less flashbacks and invest time in believable get their crew together. I agree it could have been a great TV show with multiple episodes. I also liked the bad guys and the rough brutality in some scenes. It just felt like a bit glue is missing. Kora also felt much more convincing than what they did with rey in star wars. I want to see more of this world, more interesting than the last Starwars movies tbh
Oh god yea but again that movie is a great classic for a reason. This will NOT be any kind of classic. Hell I'd watch Chronicles of Riddick 100 more times rather than Rebel Moon. A really great recent and Epic sci fi movie is The Creator. Check that highly underrated movie out. It's shameful how little recognition it's gotten.
This feels straight like a Warhammer 40,000 movie.
@@stuartbagley2586 Kora's background is practically the same as Gamora's from Guardians of the Galaxy.
Flash Gordan was fun, this was just FX overkill.
Very good analysis.
My first question was why didn't the Imperial forces just go to the port city to buy the grain they needed?
And what happened with the soldier that was turned? How did Charlie Hunan's character now exactly how many of the crates to have? And why would he have gone to pick up the hippograff flying & the sword lady? Capturing the ex-general & rebel leader makes sense but the others don't since you had to go out of your way to pick them up. And it was so formulaic and dull for Charlie Hunan's character to betray them.
Definitely would have worked better as a multiple episode show totalling 6 to 10 hours.
The bad guy mentioned farming robots. I presume they want the moon but can’t legally take it unless the people don’t meet their agreement.
I’m not a Zach Snyder fan, but not a hater either. His “look” and his creative choices don’t do it for me. I wondered for a while if he was colorblind, but this isn’t the case. (The squishy blood splashes in 300 had me laughing out loud in the theater.) However, the trailer had me intrigued so I decided to give it a go despite all this.
Ryan, I’m with you. Once they left the planet I got bored. (That fight was cool.) All the planets looked the same and the names escape me two hours later. I tried to stay with it telling myself this is Seven Samurai, but in the end I was playing on my phone and only half watching.
Honestly, I was more interested in a story about Sam and the robot. After the end of the movie the robot was the only thing I wanted to know more about.
I had a good time. Looking forward to the next part. Heard there may be a much longer director's cut, which could sort out some of the issues.
Yeah I enjoyed it. Not the best thing I’ve ever seen but not anywhere close to what the reviews are saying.
Kind of reminds me of the seven samurai, magnificent 7, etc
I would love a review of the movie in one video and the ending explained in a different one
I’m looking forward to the R rated cut. I think a lot of the details we wish were there will come out then. A mistake,for sure, but it’s likely.
Snyder's pitch for Star Wars with Rebel Moon is visually stunning. For character development, perhaps it should have been an eight to ten episode series. I felt like it was rushed. The main character had to verbally tell some of the story. IMOP Paul Greengrass' Jason Bourne series is the masterclass of pitching an already popular genre. In his pitch for Bond. Side note, it was cool to see (Nemesis) Bae Doo Na. I've enjoyed her work from Korea as well.
No one is gonna pay this guy 100 million an episode to make an 8 part series, especially with his AI generated scripts. You want people to watch 8 episodes of random pictures? You can bet your bottom dollor that even with 8 episodes, the character development and script will be non existant.
@husman2007 You totally missed my point. However, you might be right about character development. No, I want it done right from the beginning. The script is the first step. Production companies and producers are fully aware of who they hire and how much they budget for these projects. Yes of course they even go over budget. Even Micheal Bay has paid some of his own salary on the first Bad Boys. Please give me two examples of shows that cost 100 million per episode. I assume they have a lousy executive producer or an A+ gold standard show with ultra extravagant set pieces and four A list actors. I think the most important thing is to write it correctly for the story first. Do not rush the main points and hope that special effects will make the show successful.
Let me sum it up for you. Horrible movie, don't waste your time
Exactly how I felt. Wasted potential. It often teased depth, but in the end it was just so hollow. It was like watching a fantasy starring the action firgures of a highly imaginative and creative child. Only the child is just interested in throwing the characters together and confidently presenting them as a team that has formed a hard-won bond. Anyway, the visuals were stunning. But plot and character developement recieved the least amount of attention. And it is a little insane that the one aspect that could have used some of that "slow motion" was the relationships between each member of the team. The movie either fastforwarded or skipped through most of it. Didn't hate it, but not a very noteworthy film.
Hollow is the word I'm looking for to describe this. I didn't hate it, but I knew it wasn't great
I liked it. I saw a lot of possible callbacks to other sci fi movies in this one, so I got kinda nostalgic watching it. It's got visual flashes of John Carter, a smattering of Firefly, a pinch of Star Wars, perhaps a Robotech (Macross) Zentradi ship, a tiny hint of 5th Element, a marketplace reminiscent of Blade Runner, maybe a moment of Vampire Hunter D in the rain, and lots more odds and ends that looked like they could be paying homage to other popular genre classics.
Robotech,???first time ive herd nyone say this in over thirty five years lol,my childhood there
I agree with the bad over exposition, you don't need to explain or depict an empire or kingdom or orphan,... The setups were bad because they were unnecessary.
I enjoyed it. Is it the best sci-fi movie ever? No. But it was fun and I am definitely looking forward to part 2.
Stop the press. A little simp liked it.
Perfect.
lol its not that fun
😂 yea your easily impressed
Oh ignore them! Lol i enjoyed it too! Did its job and entertained me! Just 😝 at them!
If the movie is quintessentially a Jack Snyder film it must be average with over stylized visuals sprinkled throughout 😊
It wasn’t bad! Could have been better but I’m looking forward to part 2
I don't think it was bad. I just felt like i needed more time to marinate with the individual characters stories.
The fact that I can’t figure out if this should be longer or more movies split up is the confusing part haha
I will be there for part 2 tho, it does look great and I feel like there is something that makes me interested still.
Fab egg analogy was spot on.
This movie was sub par … unnecessary slow downs … rough pacing … the world didn’t suck you in … had high hopes for this one
There was no ending. Movie was an unfinished game launch that was cut in the middle of the second act with a $70 DLC/expansion pack releasing in April to conclude the story.
Did you catch the part 1 in the title. I’m not excusing the slow narrative but of course they left things open to finish in the next 2 parts.
@@alexmartin3143 That's unacceptable. If Zack Snyder needed double the length of an average movie to tell one story, he might as well as release this as a mini series. This is fucking anti-climatic.
I don't understand the reverence for the "Slain King". In the flash-backs, it looks like he was just as brutal as the current regime. Kora's planet was decimated and she was recruited all under his reign. And that army continued to destroy everything it came across. Sure, Balisarius might have been driving all of that, but the King was still in charge. How did things change when he was slain? I don't think anything changed.
The fact the village was so small made no sense. Wouldn’t it make more sense to relocate than to take on a world destroy galactic empire?
How bountiful is their harvest that they would pay so many people?
I have to give Zack Snyder his props.....he made this visually stunning movie for 80 million. That's 1/3rd the cost of what he's used to with these types of movies. The movie has a few scenes that could've benefited from a higher budget.
The Creator also only cost $80 million and was visually stunning as well. The real problem with CGI nowadays is that the artists don’t have enough time to properly work on the SFX with all the reshoots and tight deadlines (MCU for example).
@@themanofshadows "The creator" was nicely done visually. Impressive. The story was kinda boring, but I still liked it. I'll watch it again some day. There's a couple differences between the 2 films. "The Creator" 's team was smarter to keep the film more grounded. That's not really possible with a Space movie traveling from planet to planet. The 2nd main difference is we got to see "The creator" in all it's glory. Rebel Moon part one is actually two movies for the price of one. A 3 hour long movie for the real version.......and an edited down 2 hour version to fulfill the PG-13 obligation.
As it stands right now, "The creator" using the less is more approach worked out better. Doing a huge CGI overall like Rebel moon for under 200 million was never going to work. Keep in mind......for about 170 million, Netflix is releasing 4 Rebel moon movies. 2 PG-13 versions and the Rated R director's cuts to each. Both with a reported runtime of 3 hours.
My Film Lecturer had always said about Zack Synder "He can make pretty films, but god don't let him write or allow him to speak"
About the “killed” princess. Is it totally impossible that it is Sam, the watergirl, that is the princess?
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. You said it yourself - it’s a Zack Snyder movie in which we got 100% of what we expected.
FWIW, I’m old enough to remember the reviews for the original Star Wars, & - spoiler alert - they were extremely reminiscent of the reviews we’ve seen for this movie. Stunning visuals, characters are all archetypes, story is very simple… the works. This is exactly what the pro’s said in 1977.
Listen. There’s NEVER enough good sci fi & rarely enough mediocre sci fi. This was fun & trippy & gorgeous. Trying to enjoy it on any level beyond that was always going to be a self-defeating exercise.
We got to see a dryder in live action. Thumbs up for that alone.
Your very correct! And George has been called out in how he writes the dialogue of his characters too! Im not an uber fan of star wars i was very young when it came out however my older brother took me to see it 14 times! It had a def impact on me for life. Even the actors i believe didnt see it becoming so huge at all
I'm not sure how many out there know this but apparently it's going to be a directors version of this too? He said it in an interview a while ago and he said in a recent interview that's on RUclips somewhere that the director's cut is different and weirder so..........
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
@@alejandroreyes8878 yeah how many times are we gonna use that as an excuse for his movie being mediocre 😂
did they notice it was the 2 Darios in that early scene. the 2 guys that played the character in Game of Thrones? I noticed it even though Dario #2 has used botox and fillers.
Thank you! I couldn’t remember where I recognized both those actors!!!
Skrein and Huisman, yep
I was surprised the final battle happened when it did. And I assumed there would be another bigger battle later but it ended.
The Magnificent Seven Samurai in Space would have been a fitting title
This felt like it could have been a good WarHammer 40k movie. The movie was entertaining and looking forward to the next ones coming out.
Man of this was the first warhammer movie, the fame wound be up in arms. Zach is exactly the guy you don’t want writing or directing for warhammer. He’s ruin it all (but we’d get a few good looking shots).
@@enginepy I would not want him making a war hammer film unless he got a war hammer team together with Henry Cavil to work with him. War hammer being brought to the big screen needs a good story told that can be expanded and made into a whole universe like marvel has created
I enjoyed it. Period. I watch movies to be entertained and it did that . I loved the cast I thought it was fun. Yes i had a few issues with it but im not going to overthink this. It was fun it was fun waiting with baited breath for the premier. I cant wait for part two!
I will add however i wouldnt have paid for a movie ticket for this particular movie.. but yes i enjoyed watching it! Hey im not looking for masterpiece theater here guys! Hell not expecting that from MCU DCU OR STAR WARS MOVIES! 😝
Same
Indeed same! Certain movies you don’t have to think about especially movies like this. They’re there for entertainment and I got that. Sure the plot seemed very linear but that’s okay . The world itself was very interesting and had me wanting more in the space. Looking forward to seeing more. I don’t take most movies in the action, scifi, fantasy realm too seriously which allows me to enjoy them more.
Think on this though, there are levels to entertainment and enjoyment. Being mildly entertained is different than being thoroughly entertained. Certainly at least for me 🤷🏽♂️
Meh I've seen this type of movies and TV series so many times. This one is stale asf.
Say fun one more time wimpy 😂
A agree with every bit of criticism you have here. You and your guests summed up my own feelings perfectly. One correction I'd give you, however, is that the animal was a griffin and not merely a bird (yes, I'm a f**kin' nerd, OK).
It helped pass the time, i agree on this one.
Get someone to write with him
Kinda saw this coming, Snyder, this and Snyder that I've yet to love a movie he's done. He's not far off from Micheal Bay.
Not far in yet, but my question is…why did he choose to make it wide screen and Not 16:9? It’s made by Netflix for tv (essentially). Given his demand for 4:3 in the Cut. Let alone the focussing! So far, it’s more Lynch’s Dune than anything else
Zach S. is a master visual artist rather than a good storyteller
She didn't fall in love. She had a lover. The way she barley moans his death and immediately start giving orders shows that.
🤣
@@arunav23this guy.
@@goman335 the movie seems rushed...but i loved it
Cut Kora backstory, make her connect with Gunner in those private moments, let her past be a big reveal during the last scene when Bellisario is interrogating the villain
Drinking game: Take a drink every time a guest says "like" - book an ambulance before you start.
just finished and wow, to much slow-mo and the characters have no story they introduce them in 1 min and move on, and of course the big bad is a king(emperor) is revealed at the end
I love it. Really entertaining. Can't wait for Part 2. So excited when the farmer kinda redeemed himself in the final act. The one thing that kinda made me scratching my head was how the heck the Admiral magically got all his teeth back at the end? lol
I think the gel they put him in healed him. You notice his arm adjusted when they shocked him. It was his version of a bacteria tank but more instantaneous
It's just a remake of Battle Beyond the Stars, which was a Star Wars knock off reworked as The Magnificent Seven.
I'm actually kind of shocked Netflix green lit this. No one in that boardroom said "It's just Battle Beyond the Stars? Ya know, the John Boy in space movie??"
Snyder is inconsistent. When he's good, he's awesome. This one s pretty low, though.
I liked it but the arguments I’ve read online are valid. I didn’t understand the gathering of hero’s to fight and protect the farm. It was established that entire planets were wiped out so even if the village stops the first wave reinforcements would come and wipe out the planet. The planet not just the village. That felt pointless.
The Flashback war scenes were TOP TIER energy. The movie should of just started with her her role in the New World army, and ended with her being taken I'm by the villagers, instead of starting us I'm the village and giving us a bunch of flashbacks.
I was just not impressed. It was all sizzle, no steak. It had all the plot and characterization of a porno.
It reminded me a little of Rogue One, in that they're getting a band together, but in this case, it was even more effortless. And it annoys me that they're dripping out the main character's backstory so slowly.
It almost made me nostalgic for conversations about sand.
How many slow motion shots does a movie actually need?!?! 😂😂😂
The whole movie needs to be in slow-mo...
About 40 slow mo scènes. Which means one every 3 min.
It's insane.
I got ¾ of the the way through before switching it off with the "I'll watch the rest later" thought. The first 20min came across as good. The harvest moon scenes had some good world building built in. Fell appart (as i started to fall asleep) after the first fight scene. There was no natural flow as you felt the disjointed script take control.
After watching the movie, I was left with the impression that it borrowed heavily from several video games I enjoyed during my childhood. The character Tarik reminded me of 'Turok' from the Nintendo 64 era. Additionally, the narrative exposition seemed akin to cutscenes from games such as "Gears of War." Most notably, the plot appeared to be a space-themed adaptation of "Seven Samurai" and "Magnificent Seven."
The first 15 mins or so had me sucked in but then they left the moon.
oh dont tell me that, the first 50 minutes of them on the moon i thought was awful to me and was hoping the rest would be better
@@MtpMuzik I’ve always liked scenes where the villagers are just doing day to day stuff then they look up and see a big ass ship coming down and the music says it’s bad news and we don’t know who it is. I was interested in the droid scenes. You didn’t like Anthony Hopkins the droid? 😂
I went into it with zero expectations and was highly entertained. I agree with the points about the gathering of the rag tag band being a little rushed - but that probably has more to do with what was left on the cutting room floor. We have seen that immersive world building and character back stories needs a Series and not a Movie. Perhaps the "synder cut" can be them changing it to a Multi-part Series instead of two films? Either way I am very interested in the Sequel.
Spider lady and Griff - Imagine the amount of creativity they must have to think of these never-seen-before creatures.
Definitely want to see the second part. Totally wish they'd have just made it a nine hour/hour and a half episode series.
I liked it, just watched it this morning. Looking forward to part II.
They make good points though. Probably would have worked great as an 8 hour, 8 episode TV series.
Zack Snyder's answer to the question " What would happen if Dungeons & Dragons and Warhammer 40k had a fight in Star wars" 😂. As usual, Zack Snyder makes movies for the Saturday morning cartoon loving 10 year old in all of us. Unfortunately, there didn't seem to be an original thought in the entire movie. Looked real pretty though😂
Nowadays I never know what movies are based on comic books, or other media. So this one I awesome that there was a bunch of stuff I didn't know because I didn't know the characters before hand or their backstory. I always come here to see what I'm missing, cuz screen crush always explains things in a way where things make sense to people not in the know.
What I want to know is where was the robot the whole time, hopefully he plays more of a key role in part two, I was expecting him to be a badass ...he did look cool at the end with the deer horns
I enjoyed it.. it felt different..
I really think we have to be careful about what we expect going into new movies like this one. It’s a start of something new that is meant to have a bigger universe. I honestly feel like the people at screen crush don’t like anything and expect a perfect movie/show every time something drops.
I really wanted to love it...
I said the same thing
Previews looked great didn't it... big FU! From Zack
By the time April comes around I’ll have forgotten the characters and the plot. General Titus’ recruitment was a joke.
I had very similar thoughts after the movie: That Zack Snyder tries to bombard us with far out ideas for a new universe. And he does it with style, but lacks dialog finesse. Similar to my beloved Jack Kirby. I love Kirby's 4th world at DC. It is a wild wild world with so much imagination and such powerful pencils. But his dialogs are quite stiff.
In the end, I still liked the movie, because there are not many directors who try stuff like Zack Snyder. So we need him.
I totally agree with your review. The characters kept repeating to each new character why they needed them. It was so boring, so much bad verbal exposition . I was engaged for the most part but kept skipping forward during the dialogue. So much slow motion. And they killed that poor spider lady, geez. The robot Jimmy was amazing and basically hardly in the movie. I felt noting for the rebels. Oh and are Ties in fashion in this universe? Or are ties only worn by bad guys?
This is what Star Wars would be like if Snyder made dune or Star Wars
Honestly I would love to see how the director would do with Star wars.
So, bad then?
You’re right. No one talks to anyone that’s not Kora.
The movie really felt like one thing was missing from the production crew. Writers... it literally had no writers😂😂😂
sorry kora was not called the life giver, the princess was the life giver
Yep. She is the Scar Giver.
At least we can appreciate that someone is trying to establish alternate sci-fi franchises apart from Star Wars and Star Trek et al. ...even though it seems to be underwhelming, but it's definitely the right direction because we need something after the big ones have fallen.
You must of never seen Foundation on Apple TV. It’s slightly cerebral show but lord do they know how to execute a show on all fronts from the ground up. It’s got 2 seasons, fans are literally begging for the third season
Someone said it in the comments. His visuals with a top tier writer would be amazing!
I would raather see every movie on earth visual art enhanced and coached during production by Zack S. Let ZS contribute where he is good at for the good of all.
He’s a cinematographer with too many responsibilities
Probably the most accurate way to describe his style. Lucas loved spectacle, but actually had story to back it up, Snyder seems to use the plot and story to better serve the spectacle; “This dialogue needs to happen so that I can show off THIS shot”
It’s not a movie… it’s a series of cut scenes from a video game… I actually don’t know the name of a SINGLE character… and I’m actively watching it while typing this 🥴… this sh!t makes the Last Jedi feel like a masterpiece
The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars film.
@@nathandts3401it was the best in the sequel trilogy for sure, and then the 4th best after empire, clones, and revenge
@@SuckmeoffthenTarzan I don't have any Prequels on my list. Love that Clone Wars and quite a few books have fixed a lot of the issues, but those movies on their own are still rough.
This reminded me of Battle Beyond the Stars, the George Peppard/Robert Vaughn Star Wars-ish movie from 1980.
While the movie was okay I guess, and an improvement over Army of the Dead, it doesn't do scale very well. It feels like the universe has like 500 people in it. Outside that one shot of the king in front of the troops, everything feels so small.
They catch the most wanted criminals in the universe and the Admiral brings like 20 guys with him. Oh, and the gunner apparently had a lever that can crash a big ship, that was silly too
Ed Skrein was pretty terrifying. Compared to the sort of wooden performance as Darrias in GOT this role really popped.
I cant help but wonder if the resemblance of the male protagonist to the actor that replaced him was some kind of easter eggy joke.
I don't think it's fair for anyone on the planet, to be compared to George Lucas, the guy is a genius.
He's a terrible writer. Seems like an appropriate comparison.
Yeah like he took ideas from Frank Herbert and Isaac Asimov to merge with Flash Gordon and some historical references. Both of them are good at being derivative in creating their context.
@@nathandts3401 idk the first 6 star wars movies still hold up to me, some of the greatest sifi storytelling ever
@@MtpMuzik I love Star Wars as a universe. I've seen, read, played or listened to everything with a story in that universe. The original trilogy were a collaboration of ideas, though and despite cartoons and a bunch of books/comics smoothing the Prequel era over, I still think those three movies are terribly written and the main character was poorly acted.
I felt a LOT of stuff in this movie was just lifted from warhammer 40K
You DO know that W40k lived EVERYTHING it has from other sci-fi and fantasy media, right?
Right?
Many thanks to Ryan, Matt and Rachell! 🌒 The overuse of slow-motion and much of Snyder's style... doesn't resonate for me. But I liked a lot about it. Not sure I'll *ever* re-watch it. I will certainly watch the sequel.
The contrast between building this 'team' and the way SW builds it's team is drastic! When they/we first meet Han and Chewie in ANH we don't have to trust them - and Obi-wan doesn't, which is why he's coy about 'avoiding any imperial entanglements" rather than telling them their real goal! They only need Han to adhere to their transport contract. Its only later, after using a potential reward to convince him to help and after they survive a harrowing escape together and have a bit of a bonding experience, that Luke increases his expectations of Han (and Leia doesn't even then; she's not surprised he's leaving with his reward). Han takes practically his entire portion of the movie to become trustworthy!
Just watched Rebel Moon... It was fun, action packed and the ending was unexpected. Snyder delivered. Haters and nitpickers will do what they do. Looking forward to pt. 2
Lol, there's one born every minute.
Idk about synder delivered. Im only an hour in and the movie is almost everything critics have been saying and im a synder fan that was looking forward to this. I just cant with the lack of storytelling and trying to make up for it with over stylized visuals and hella slow motion scenes.
Delivered on what? The rushed plot? The stale characters with zero development? The abuse of slow mo? The nonsensical crap like "spear beats warship"? The poor dialogue or lack of it? This movie was fucking awful.