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mae planned everything from the very beginning, he lured proximus people to the eagle clan because she knows their ability to climb higher than usual, she even saw it when noah climb to get the egg on a higher place, she even put her scent on noah cloth so she can get the clan raided and conquered by proximus people, she needed their ability so she can reach the hidden entrance of the vault.
When I explain to my girlfriend about these movies everything is movie accurate, except when I try to ground my timeline by referring to Rise as the James Franco one.
The writing for the movie was unexpectedly very emotionally complex and mature, which I think has gone over a lot of viewer's heads. Mae and Noa are written as contrasts in dealing with trauma and anger. Mae is struggling to overcome her trauma, from Proximus' brutality, which affects her trust of all apes. She struggles to do what is morally sound, being impulsive due to her grief, pain, and loneliness. Noa grows and moves through his trauma and anger, in which community and family benefit him greatly in this respect - He chooses trust and not harm against those who haven't harmed him. The movie is teaching us pain begets pain (Mae), but trust and follow-through heals pain (Noa). The real enemy is unhealed trauma and what that brings. Mae's outward actions are perfect example of a person with internal conflict and unchecked feelings. Really great writing.
Or its just filler to set up the big story of the humans fighting back using nuclear weapons to destory the planet .thts all i saw of this movie nice set up. 2 next movies wil end with nuclear end of the world with the 3 last movies wil be the austronaunts coming back thkusand year later
It’s a shame because as a fan, I enjoyed kingdom. But I feel like casual fans won’t enjoy it as much because of how slow this felt. Great video as always.
Thank you was thinking the same thing. The old dude with him was a history buff and was telling him everything humans did. He knew what they were capable of. And Mae embodies that by caring about the mission above everything. We dont know what would happen if humans regained speech and everything else but it could be a war to return to how it was or they'd figure out how to live together. It's tough to imagine it lol.
As was Dr. Zaius in the original film. In the second film it is made clear that the humans' feeding on ape crops has brought the ape civilization to the brink of starvation.
That's what I love about the new movies. Besides Rise, which had villains who were kind of flat and objectively just evil, the movies show that all the "villains" had their (mostly reasonable) motivations behind their actions. Even though they're the "bad guys" from the POV of the protagonists, we still get a glimpse into why they're doing what they do. It's about humanity and how it's not "good" or "bad."
@@jeremyjj3866 thats the thing, Mae wasnt trying to bring back speech cause it already exists, she lied to Noa so he wouldn't suspect it much, rather it ended up being a sat com key so her base could contact another military base lol and a nod to the original, the base they contacted was where Taylor came from
Mae was an absolute Villain in the film. She planted the scent to destroy the Eagle village on purpose. She attempted to commit genocide by flooding the apes good or bad. Then she was about to shoot him in the end only to stop when he offered her the necklace. She was the reason his village was obliterated and why his father died. Humans once again are proven to the the problem. Proximo for the most part wanted to protect his Kingdom. He had nothing against humans as he was housing one to entertain and educate him. I didn't see him as a villain, he was originally chasing down the HUMAN spies that led his trackers to the eagle village. AKA how the movie begins is with Mae luring the main character to take her bloodied cloths so his scouts would discover them.
Bro was a villain even if he had nothing "against" humans he treated the other apes very bad and was willing to dispose of them like they had little to no value. If that doesn't scream villain then idk what does. They really wanted us to feel like humans are still the enemy and the problem and it's obvious that it's what they're building up to.
Something else I think worth noting. I found it to be important as you. Mentioned at the end, when may accepts the necklace which symbolizes her new way of thinking, but also something else that you may have not noticed is that when she accepted the necklace, she grabbed it. Or held onto it with both hands, meaning that she had to put the gun away. So that means that she think, at that moment, head put away her distrust in Apes. N made the decision that she was ready to be able to trust the Apes. She could have easily grabbed that necklace with one hand and still hold the gun. But she chose to hold it with both hands. Meaning she decided to put her guard down for the first time which really shows her new change of heart best. I think. I think this could be setting us up for the original movies. Timeline of the end of part 5, where part 5 was told as a story from an ape in the year 2600 and something with Apes and humans living side by side in peace. apes and surface humans both ful clothed and speaking So it seems in the original timeline, humans lose their ability to speak and become of lower order sometime. After that story is told at the end of part 5, whereas in this latest movies we lose the ability to speak immediately after So either some humans regain that ability or It could just be two different versions.We'll have to see
I thought the coolest part was how the movie introduced the doll from the first movie. The exact same doll with the exact same sound as in that cave from the first movie is most definitely that bunker in this latest movie.Since both take place on the beach, it's definitely gotta be the same place, which means kingdom takes place in future new york
I saw the movie last night and absolutely loved it. I've always been a fan of the Planet of the Apes franchise and these new movies give so much to it! I am seriously dumbfounded with how well they have done this series so far. Each story has been different. They all connect in a logical and exciting manner.
You fan of planet of apes and did not realise what noah thought when he saw telescope????? He saw jupiter and knew it was real , and he knew apes were kept in zoo locked by humans was real too as he saw in the books in vault , so now Noah just realized humans are greatest threat to apes
I loved this continuation/installment. Raka was the best character. I loved Noah; i loved how they showed his fear when a problem arrise yet he still pushed foward.
I think it's also important to point out with this movie that the writers seemed to have learned a valuable lesson from Star wars. Noah was really just some random guy. Yes, his father was the leader of their tribe. But at the end of the day, he was really just another member of the tribe himself. He wasn't necessarily anyone special. All throughout the movie I kept expecting them to somehow make Noah a descendant of Caesar. And I was thrilled by the end when they didn't.
father wasnt the leader of the tribe even, he was the master of the birds, a very high role but not the leader, we see the elder of the tribe having his necklace pulled off in the attack scene before they kill Noah's dad.
I think they imply Noah is related to Caesar either literally or symbolically by making the two characters look very similar. No way that wasn’t intentional.
The aspect of Noa’s clan utilizing eagles is actually further insight of how they can and would coexist with “lesser beings,” such as humans, as both creatures can benefit from each other and thrive as a result…😉
Wouldn’t really happen tho since at the end Noah just loses trust in humans seeing how mae was willing to kill the eagle clan just to make sure the apes never flourish technology wise.he also gets angry looking in the telescope seeing the satellites activate knowing it was mae who gave them the “book”
@@princebealalthe3rd732 yeah but that's more off a hint that he's looking towards the future. We don't really know what he is looking at. It's more a representation that he is looking towards the future. Sorry if i sounded rude in my first response.
@@Purplinessky I mean idk it’s just my guess I don’t think they will do that time travel thing since it would be a huge change in the series but who knows it’s just my person theory that he saw the satellites turn on and he will attack the humans next movie idk tho
Yo they used the eagles for hunting, including fishing and mid sized land prey. They can also keep vermin from the area. Human settlements have been using Falconry for a while
@@ThoughtAbout-vm8sv the movie opens with scenes of the eagles being sent for fish, apes in eagle clan receiving & distributing the fish, as well as Noa fixing a fish hanging rack, and encountering Mae in the smokehouse, which is used to smoke & preserve large amounts of fish. the eagles aren’t just a large part of their culture, but seemingly an instrumental piece of their ability to survive.
So I think the astronauts are coming back too and I think they told us this in the movie…hear me out. When the main ape, Noa explained to Raka later on what he saw in the telescope he says something like “a tunnel swallowing light” at first I thought he was talking about the telescope itself and he could’ve been but what if he saw a black hole or wormhole? The same one that would soon bring those astronauts to that time.
I think Icarus from rise that was meant to land on Mars ended up in that worm hole,ended up colonizing another planet and found a way back 300 years later.i also have a feeling Mae found her way back first from that colony to scope earth out,and being told where the location of the bunker was. It would explain why she wears quite futuristic clothes and why seemingly she isn't affected at all by the airborne virus,like she's generationally immune to it yet the settlers in the base great her in respirators.
I think he saw a space station or satellite which would explain swallowing light since it would be the only device with light in space besides stars I think at the end he saw the satellites activate which is why he looked angry knowing that he couldn’t trust mae.Just my theory tho
The telescope was dirty , he couldn’t see anything and remember right when he was going to wipe it clear , nova came in I think he just was just amazed by the telescope BUT the telescope will be used to see the astronauts crash land that nova was speaking to in the end , if u look at the map on the radar u can see something rotating around the earth hint hint a space ship
Ape villains (Koba and Proximus Ceasar) was right in ensuring the best future possible for the apes. However, their ways went against the morality and principles of their Great Founder, Ceasar. So far, I like the ending. Hoping Rakka survived and show again in the next movie. The work continues.
I was really hoping that Noah would confront Proximus about the "Law of Ceasar" and tell the others about it. And wish they would have used the phrase from the original series that I loved so much as a kid, "Ape shall not kill ape!"
i like how the movie in the end gave us a slight hint of the dynamics of the groups of humans that now exist in this world, 1. The people underground that never had contact with the virus at all (the woman in the hazmat suit at the end) 2. People like mae that have contracted the virus and is immune to the silencing of speech from the virus 3. the people that didnt die of the virus, but are not immune to the side effects of the virus that makes them silent, and unintelligent i mean thinking about it im really looking forward to what they do with this, its an interesting plot point having even the humans not being able to coexist with each other
I throughly enjoyed this movie. It's pace, a slow burn if you will, felt right. It endeared us to Noa, just a young ape trying to do the best he could to make his family proud... It wasn't full of unnecessary over the top action scene either.
@@spencercorpuzit was a line from one of the books he was read. He liked it he also repeated it as a chant as how Emperors did back in the day when the town came to see the king. Not a dumb line at all
@@baussier134 I was talking about the mutants from beneath the planet of the apes. Not feeling the fallout vibes with any of the modern apes movies tho
Aside from continuing the warped legacy of Caesar, Proximus adopted the name Caesar in part also to his heavy interest in Roman history where he saw himself as his generation's Caesar ruling over his new kingdom.
That connection may be a nod to how apes like Proximus are able to adopt human ideas and human history into their own cruel structure of power. Him adopting the title of Caesar may be coincidental to the series.
Two things 1. In the movie when Noa is talking to Raka the next day, he mentions how he saw a “light eating tunnel”, and explained Mae had the same reaction as Noa. 2. I’m pretty sure in the original movies (68) they explained that they were 2000* years in the future
When she was delivering the code thing at the end, I half expected it to pan up to a vew of a golden nuclear bomb, implying they would eventually become the underground humans from Beneath lol.
Another little nod to the original, when the apes are in the vault, one of them picks up a doll just like the original one and uses the exact some sound effect.
I hope Raka survives. The orangutans are always my fav’ . Of course I left the movie exactly at the end , now I wished I’d stay for the after credit moment. Have to look it up now. Thanks for this breakdown. Proximus’ death was legendary. Those eagles did their thing.
I used Maurice to help teach people sign language. Now we got several people who know how to call people stupid. The thing is my favorite scene is when Caesar told Apes are strong together to Maurice, Maurice was already smart. he was able to communicate with Maurice , even though Maurice was not altered yet.
I found it had some Biblical connections as well. Caesar was like a Moses type character who left laws that were perserved by Raka and Noa is a potential Christ like figure to fulfill those laws. Also his name is Noa and there's a giant flood scene. There's also a classic Joseph Campbell crossing the threshold scene which refelcts the chase scene from the original movie.
Why was Mae also surprised at what she saw in the telescope. Remember, Mae at that point is thought to be feral - yet we now know she's not. So she saw something that amazed even her.
She saw a black hole in the proximity of earth. Noa described it as "a tunnel that eats light". I believe it'll tie to the time travel/time warp shenanigans of the old PoTA movies
@@aryobimo2199 i think "Tunnel that eats light" is the fact that the front of the scope is dark, yet the lense showed light, not referring to a black hole
Any one of us can be amazed looking through a telescope properly focused on something eg the moon. All the scene demonstrated was the similarity in intelligence between the two species and Noah recognising that fact.
@@UFO_computers That's what they want you to think at first, when you believe Mae is feral. But then, shortly after we learn that Mae is not feral and knows more than Noa knows about the world. So whatever Mae and Noa saw, that it cut off right at the end, must have been something.
Finally sat down and watched the new film and I LOVED it, I can not wait for more!!! Great breakdown, ty! I saw it on a plane so I totally missed the post credits Easter egg. Gonna go back and rewatch on Hulu ❤
also in the old trilogy the apes are scared of water. The was depicted by how apes were killed by breaking of the flood gates and when Raka almost drowned.
@@kinothemysticcorrect; only in the Tim Burton film are apes afraid of water. Nowhere in the original 5 movies nor the first 3 from Matt Reeves is it stated that apes are afraid of water.
I thought it was supposed to be a Noah's ark type allusion to the flood. The main character was named Noah and after the flood you have a hawk instead of a dove.
I feel like this series is now stealing the spot in our hearts and minds that was previously reserved for all things Star Wars. Loved this movie and can't wait re-watch the whole series at the earliest opportunity!
One thing that I noticed was how Noah is one of the smartest apes on the planet , so far. He repaired the stun rod without ever having studied it before. He has seen books and technology in detail including the telescope. He has seen the heavens and may have seen a space station. He wants the best for his people and seems to understand that they do not truly know everything Caesar preached, so apes need to become more advanced in order to survive and cannot completely trust anyone, otherwise they will risk destruction. I don’t want the series to be a complete recycle of the past. I would like to find out that the apes find a way to release the waters in the silo and understand the technology to become extremely intelligent equal to and in some ways exceeding present day mankind. People like May are selfish and want the entire planet for themselves, but something needs to happen to force them to come together or perish! Maybe the secret to human survival resides in humans and apes being exposed to each other’s bodies and adjusting?
I think a part of the movie that was overlooked was that of Proximus. He ruled on what he believed was to be Caesars way, but in reality he was obsessed with ancient Roman literature which spews the ideology of Julius Caesar. Hence his monarchy over the apes
Proximus didn't believe in Caesar's teachings...he didn't know about them. All he knew was the fact that Caesar was the ultimate OG ape...so he manipulated that memory for his own benefit. Proximus' only concern was his own power. He would have sacrificed every ape life to open those doors if he had to. That is as far from Caesar as you can hope to get.
no, she might be, in the eyes of the Apes, but that is the point of war. But this is what this movie scares me, and avatar, and others. It's teaching people self hate. we are humans, and we want our own to prosper.
@@slewone4905 nope... pretty sure she is the villain of this story or better call it antagonist. Not directly evil maybe but just pushing against the protagonist
@@slewone4905people might say she is the "villain" but if she doesn't flood the bunker they were going to get the weapons and the eagle tribe was going to still be slaved by proximus. He might not see it that way because many of his people died but Caesar wanted to have a kingdom and he would've been an even biggest tyrant.
I don't know bout you,,,, but I'm always rooting for the human race in this movies series so she was a hero to me. I thought Woody Harrleson was a hero in the previous one😮Sadly he died at the end!
@@slewone4905 humans are also ape. Not sure what sort of ideological spin you're trying to go with this but she was objectively a villain in the film. The film also had multiple villains.
I thought Noa got a glimpse of Saturn in the telescope because that’s the planet he focused on in the human facility’s classroom. Also I have to say I was waiting for some sort of flood event seeing as the main characters name was Noa. There does seem to be a religious element to the characters. Caesar being the law giver (Moses) leading his people to freedom, and Noa saving the righteous from the flood. Naming the next main character Jesus would be a bit too on the nose I would think though. Haha
Fun little Easter Egg: the woman in the hazmat suit is played by Dichen Lachman, who was also in the television series The Last Ship, which was also about a man made plague that wiped out the majority of humanity.
@@ArtDutchNever saw The 100, but did see Altered Carbon and SHIELD. She also was the Dino trafficker in JW: Dominion who sicced the raptors on Owen and Claire in Malta.
yeah, that would never happen, because we got these movies to remind us never to engineer a deadly disease. You know, like genetically altering a coronavirus, which we never ever been successful in making a vaccine of, before, or maybe not pay Chinese to engineer the Avian flu virus, even after the coronavirus fiasco. I mean humans can learn from their mistakes.
Nice video; but you missed a small, albeit important detail from the 1968 movie. In that movie, Cornelius mentions to Taylor that human's are not allowed to speak, only apes can speak. So actually, humans in the original films lost their ability to speak because they were brutalized and banned from speaking by the apes over generations, eventually losing their speech. A much crueler way the apes dealt with the humans in the original movies...
Honestly though this was the best prequel in the franchise behind "dawn of the planet of the apes " was solid beautiful film i found noah to be an interesting character pacing was great as the story wise it had a satisfying conclusion, and pretty intriguing set up for next.
@@alexp601 other than the original movies and the modern day ones having different plots and timelines? Why don't you just watch the movies yourself and you'll know how you're obviously wrong.
This movie was everything I wanted it to be! As a longtime planet of the apes fan, there was so much to appreciate and I loved all the call backs and foreshadowing for what’s to come. I haven’t felt this much excitement walking out of a theater since Endgame!
Fun fact, Ryan Arey's first video on ScreenCrush was about Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes and why it isn't as bad as you'd think. That was about 6 years ago? And I've been a fan/subscriber ever since.
The one thing you didn't touch on was Mae's origin. If she was born underground, how is she immune to the virus on the surface? Or was she born on the surface, but happened to be genetically immune to the virus and the mutated virus? Then the underground humans somehow contacted her and recruited her?
Is the virus still airborne after 300 years ? It was airborne during the initial outbreak and the survivors on the surface were just immune to it and passed the immunity on to their children. Idk if its still airborne now, the humans alive now just carry it from their ancestors so they arent breathing it in.
There are a number of humans who are genetically immune such as Mae and the old guy that helped Proximus. She lived with other humans that were immune and most likely were on the same mission. But they were killed by Proximus and he took their map of the vault. She seems to be incredibly educated as she knew how every human thing worked but also knew how to live and blend in the wild
Ryan: love your uniform and especially that modern styled nametag!! 🙃 Brings back lots of memories...a real blockbuster!!! During the conversation between Noah and Raka regarding Mae's reaction, looking into the telescope eyepiece, there was mention of a black hole. Raka seemed to have heard it from Noah describing what he had seen earlier. Time travel is definitely in our future films. Also, where (or when) were the people who responded to the distress call into space? They stated, "Fort Wayne". 📡📡📡📡
•I loved the birds in the film 🦅 •This was a great franchise builder, loved the world its in. •W ape/other monkey characters (Rakka, Proximo, Noah…) •Space angle > Time travel
They use the eagles for fishing. We see eagles catch fish, apes retrieve fish from eagles, we even see their smoke house where they cook the fish. May even steals one. Most apes aren’t buoyant, they sink immediately. Which is why the water is so dangerous. Eagles are their fishing poles
Really appreciated this explanation. I have been on the 50 year APES viewing journey, and never have been confused and dumbfounded until l saw Kingdom last night, and that ending that seemed to come out of left field. You have explained a lot - not all - but enough to keep it on track. I was especially confused by the varied groups of humans who seem to be at different stages of evolution. I do think overall though, that Kingdom was an amazing film that has viewers using their brains in ways not typical of summer blockbusters. I eagerly await the next chapter, and l will seek out more of your videos!
@@Grimmjow19872Humans survived underground after nuclear war, they mutated and developed psychic powers and afraid to go outside and they worship a giant doomsday bomb capable of destroying the earth.
@@Grimmjow19872 in the original movies, the apes across the globe fight back and the humans cause a nuclear holocaust, killing most humans but those who survived became mutated over generations with telepathic abilities
I just finished kingdom and I loved it, i didn’t think I was gonna like it so much because of no Cesar and no other apes from the old movies but the new villains were scary and that cgi is on another level omg
8:08 it is shown several times throughout the early scenes of the movie that the eagles are how they gather fish. seems like an extremely vital mechanism for their clan’s survival. Noa’s 2nd encounter with Mae in the smokehouse (the building full of fish) shows that it is probably their main source of food as well since they are making efforts to preserve the fish too. they also use them for scouting it seems (when Noa’s father sent his eagle w/ Oda is one example). plus the ending when they use them for combat to defeat Proximus. i think their uses are many. if they learned to hunt, they would be very useful in that regard too.
I think you're right Ryan cuz apes and astronauts go to space all the time and it would be crazy if I open an astronaut and ape came out of a spaceship
The water level at the vault bugged me... on one side of the boat there is a beach as seen when they are brought in. On the other side of the boat, they need a several meters tall wall to hold the water. Also inside the vault, once the water rush in you can see them climb 4+ floors up, and the water is still rising. In one of the scenes the water is even coming from above them, after they have climbed. The water would not go above the natural sea level. So maybe a floor or two max based on the height of their sea wall.
In the movie, wheb Noah uses the telescope he noticed a tube that swallows light in space. I believe he was referring to a black hole in which the astronauts that left three hundred years ago will return from.
not really a twist, Proximus reveals she was working with other people, and she also got a sat com key rather than something that could bring back speech. but yes, she was sorta a vault dweller, probably just someone the vault dwellers use to retrieve resources from the outside tho lol
I always hoped this reboot franchise would take Beneath seriously and Kingdom did. As soon as Nao entered the tunnel and finally ended up in the underground bunker I anticipated this Serling-type ending. Yes , humans cannot be human without their weaponry, their technolgy, their monoopuolzation of violence and the means of mass destruction. The gun Mae carries is her human appendage
That isn’t true. Even the director stated that “300 years in the future” isn’t true. It’s just many generations later. There hasn’t been anything specific showing the time that this movie takes place in.
I think William Macy's character was their version of Taylor. They never explained where he came from. If he was from the underground bases, "Nova" would've known. His defeatist demeanor matches well with Taylor's cynical one. In the end they both gave up in humanity. That being, Nova was right to take him out... he would've either volunteeringly told, or they would've tortured it out of him. A shell of the man he was.
@@Johnrigsby it’s his view of humanity is the reason for the comment. Both him and Taylor had given up on humanity. Taylor was cynical. And the end he made the play that destroyed the world. .
I love how this movie has basically 2 villains who are exactly alike but go about it in the smallest but most different way and that is selfishness: proximus clearly is the villain of the movie cuz he steals clans of apes and force them into his kingdom against their will and lets his soldiers kill their warriors to prevent resistance… but for the most part once your in his kingdom he isn’t THAT bad a ruler, all the apes seem to get breaks whenever they need so they are slaves to their labor outside of the mandatory meetings about the door but everyone would likely come and see regardless cuz of importance but he’s doing all of this why?? Selfishness, he wants to unite the apes but be the ruler of the united apes against humans and all other challenges… and then there’s may who is the second villain: may is extremely selfish like proximus but proximus’s selfish nature manifests individually, he only wanted success for himself and the apes could get what crumbles he left but all in all he cared for himself where as may was completely selfish not for her individual self but for the human species. May fully understands that apes are smart and sentient beings but she sacrificed the eagle clan to proximus, could have gotten Noa killed, as far as we known had Raka drown trying to save her, drowned MORE of the eagle clan and other apes from other clans and proximus loyalists, and KILLED A FELLOW HUMAN to get what she wants which was all in service of the human species. They both have selfish desires that manifested into deadly violence and lying and scheming but the intention between them was vastly different. I’m glad they don’t try and paint may as a good guy cuz she hung out with the main character, I like how her and proximus are synonymous to each other to Noa but may is redeemable whereas proximus sealed his fate.
Saw the movie last night and loved it. I think each movie will do a time jump similar to the previous trilogy and set May up as our main (albeit complicated) antagonist while Noa and his clan become more educated and technologically advanced than where we left off. I also think Ryan’s correct that the telescope scene near the end of the movie shows how much Noa and the apes have yet to learn, but need to in order to “evolve”. It’ll be interesting to see where they are from an intellectual stand point in the next film.
@@TheBeastInBlack Yeah, seriously. The movie did NOT feel slow to me or any of my friends. If movies aren’t dumb and mindless they are slow I guess nowadays
@@SolarisSaber Every second had me fascinated and glued to the screen. The world, the characters, all of it. I obly didnt like the ending cuz tbh i really liked Proximus and didnt care too much for Mae, and hated her for all the apes she killed and almost dooming Noas clan. Now the humans are gonna try to eradicate the apes again, cuz like Noa, Proximus, and Mae herself said, theyll never accept Ape intelligence, and wont let them have anything, cuz humans want it all.
He actually fought and used more of his intelegence than fists. At the end of th day he still did what he came to do and save his clan. But he was never meant to be a fighter but was very courageous. That's what I liked about him.
@@sensaiuriah5440 yeah yeah and my point still stands. Not every character has to be a fighter, never did I say otherwise on him getting beat up. Instead of coming up with yeah yeah, maybe come up with something better 🤣🤣
I thought the first 3 were really good. 15:29 Kingdom of the Planet of The Apes was alright. It was good, and I hope they make another one or two apes movies. I would like to see where they go with it. 😮 Doc
I never liked the original films, but they've done an exceptional job with the remakes/reboot. The care taken with each film is fantastic. I took a friend to see Kingdom & she hadn't seen any of the new films, but she loved it!
Spoilers: I hated Mae all throughout the later half of the movie and wanted Proximus to get the vault. The apes are gonna be eradicated noe thabks to her, and she already killed lots of apes flooding the vault.
I think that what they saw in that telescope was a space station,and that is what the humans were tryin to contact at the end when the girl was looking to the sky
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Raka was the best character in the movie ,wish he had stuck around longer.
The end of the movie during the final moments of the credits you can hear a orangutan
@@6ixallah he will be back. he got swept down river is all.
It’ll be cool if he comes back but apes can’t swim.
@@willmahoney2452He could’ve got caught up on something which saved him
@@timsetto true. Fingers crossed
mae planned everything from the very beginning, he lured proximus people to the eagle clan because she knows their ability to climb higher than usual, she even saw it when noah climb to get the egg on a higher place, she even put her scent on noah cloth so she can get the clan raided and conquered by proximus people, she needed their ability so she can reach the hidden entrance of the vault.
Freaking echoes man..
Make sense 👍🏻
That's a really good theory it makes logical sense and shows just how evil humans can be
And the other human got her legs broken probably trying by climb by himself
Yup I realized at the end she did everything on purpose
I love how everybody unanimously referrs to Will as just James Franco.
Yep my sister keeps calling him that
Lol, I forgot his character name from RISE, do I just refer to him as Dr Franco
same thing with the 2001 movie and referring to it as the Mark Wahlberg movie along with his character lol
When I explain to my girlfriend about these movies everything is movie accurate, except when I try to ground my timeline by referring to Rise as the James Franco one.
He directly funded crime when he allowed Dr Octavius to build his machine.
The writing for the movie was unexpectedly very emotionally complex and mature, which I think has gone over a lot of viewer's heads. Mae and Noa are written as contrasts in dealing with trauma and anger. Mae is struggling to overcome her trauma, from Proximus' brutality, which affects her trust of all apes. She struggles to do what is morally sound, being impulsive due to her grief, pain, and loneliness. Noa grows and moves through his trauma and anger, in which community and family benefit him greatly in this respect - He chooses trust and not harm against those who haven't harmed him. The movie is teaching us pain begets pain (Mae), but trust and follow-through heals pain (Noa). The real enemy is unhealed trauma and what that brings. Mae's outward actions are perfect example of a person with internal conflict and unchecked feelings. Really great writing.
Or its just filler to set up the big story of the humans fighting back using nuclear weapons to destory the planet .thts all i saw of this movie nice set up. 2 next movies wil end with nuclear end of the world with the 3 last movies wil be the austronaunts coming back thkusand year later
@@wingedhussar1453facts
@@wingedhussar1453 ah true, I way I see it is either
A. Humans killing all apes and restarting the world.
Or
B. Apes killing off humans for good.
Literally didnt go over anyone I knows head not everyone is regarded
Okay, nerd... it's a movie about monkeys
It’s a shame because as a fan, I enjoyed kingdom. But I feel like casual fans won’t enjoy it as much because of how slow this felt. Great video as always.
the meaning was there just didnt have as big of an impact, but now we kno these characters im sure the second will be better
I'm a huge fan and it still felt very slow.
@@kathymurphy700 it definitely did feel slow.
@@humanspider37 I agree
I'm a casual fan and I loved it. It's very story driven. I didn't think it was that slow.
Proximo despite being a villain was mostly correct in his motivations
Thank you was thinking the same thing. The old dude with him was a history buff and was telling him everything humans did. He knew what they were capable of. And Mae embodies that by caring about the mission above everything. We dont know what would happen if humans regained speech and everything else but it could be a war to return to how it was or they'd figure out how to live together. It's tough to imagine it lol.
As was Dr. Zaius in the original film. In the second film it is made clear that the humans' feeding on ape crops has brought the ape civilization to the brink of starvation.
That's what I love about the new movies. Besides Rise, which had villains who were kind of flat and objectively just evil, the movies show that all the "villains" had their (mostly reasonable) motivations behind their actions. Even though they're the "bad guys" from the POV of the protagonists, we still get a glimpse into why they're doing what they do. It's about humanity and how it's not "good" or "bad."
Killmonger
@@jeremyjj3866 thats the thing, Mae wasnt trying to bring back speech cause it already exists, she lied to Noa so he wouldn't suspect it much, rather it ended up being a sat com key so her base could contact another military base lol and a nod to the original, the base they contacted was where Taylor came from
Mae was an absolute Villain in the film. She planted the scent to destroy the Eagle village on purpose. She attempted to commit genocide by flooding the apes good or bad. Then she was about to shoot him in the end only to stop when he offered her the necklace. She was the reason his village was obliterated and why his father died. Humans once again are proven to the the problem. Proximo for the most part wanted to protect his Kingdom. He had nothing against humans as he was housing one to entertain and educate him. I didn't see him as a villain, he was originally chasing down the HUMAN spies that led his trackers to the eagle village. AKA how the movie begins is with Mae luring the main character to take her bloodied cloths so his scouts would discover them.
Did you not see him have slaves 💀
Bro was a villain even if he had nothing "against" humans he treated the other apes very bad and was willing to dispose of them like they had little to no value. If that doesn't scream villain then idk what does. They really wanted us to feel like humans are still the enemy and the problem and it's obvious that it's what they're building up to.
Naw, you're allowed to blame WP for anything. That's the law of the land.
he did mention that he wants to get rid of humans ..
APE...NOT KILL APE
REMEMBER CAESAR.
Small correction: Orangutan are the religious and law experts in the original movie, the scientists are the chimanzees.
Dr. Zaius is the sole exception, as he was involved with both science and religion
Typo or not, ChiManzees is a decent pun
Something else I think worth noting. I found it to be important as you. Mentioned at the end, when may accepts the necklace which symbolizes her new way of thinking, but also something else that you may have not noticed is that when she accepted the necklace, she grabbed it. Or held onto it with both hands, meaning that she had to put the gun away. So that means that she think, at that moment, head put away her distrust in Apes. N made the decision that she was ready to be able to trust the Apes. She could have easily grabbed that necklace with one hand and still hold the gun. But she chose to hold it with both hands. Meaning she decided to put her guard down for the first time which really shows her new change of heart best. I think. I think this could be setting us up for the original movies. Timeline of the end of part 5, where part 5 was told as a story from an ape in the year 2600 and something with Apes and humans living side by side in peace. apes and surface humans both ful clothed and speaking
So it seems in the original timeline, humans lose their ability to speak and become of lower order sometime. After that story is told at the end of part 5, whereas in this latest movies we lose the ability to speak immediately after
So either some humans regain that ability or It could just be two different versions.We'll have to see
I thought the coolest part was how the movie introduced the doll from the first movie. The exact same doll with the exact same sound as in that cave from the first movie is most definitely that bunker in this latest movie.Since both take place on the beach, it's definitely gotta be the same place, which means kingdom takes place in future new york
I saw the movie last night and absolutely loved it. I've always been a fan of the Planet of the Apes franchise and these new movies give so much to it! I am seriously dumbfounded with how well they have done this series so far. Each story has been different. They all connect in a logical and exciting manner.
Nuclear weapons next movie
You fan of planet of apes and did not realise what noah thought when he saw telescope????? He saw jupiter and knew it was real , and he knew apes were kept in zoo locked by humans was real too as he saw in the books in vault , so now Noah just realized humans are greatest threat to apes
@@chongraxesh1 when did I say that?
I loved this continuation/installment. Raka was the best character. I loved Noah; i loved how they showed his fear when a problem arrise yet he still pushed foward.
SAME!
I peeped that too! Nice added nuance from Caesar who was a straight thug.
THIS!! I loved how it showed Noa's emotions.
I think it's also important to point out with this movie that the writers seemed to have learned a valuable lesson from Star wars. Noah was really just some random guy. Yes, his father was the leader of their tribe. But at the end of the day, he was really just another member of the tribe himself. He wasn't necessarily anyone special. All throughout the movie I kept expecting them to somehow make Noah a descendant of Caesar. And I was thrilled by the end when they didn't.
father wasnt the leader of the tribe even, he was the master of the birds, a very high role but not the leader, we see the elder of the tribe having his necklace pulled off in the attack scene before they kill Noah's dad.
@connla that makes it even better and he really was just another member of the tribe.
I think they imply Noah is related to Caesar either literally or symbolically by making the two characters look very similar. No way that wasn’t intentional.
@@jacobsantos6637 I don't know. That feels like a stretch.
@@jacobsantos6637i feel it was just a design choice to get us attached to his character with familiarity if that makes sense
In my theater, people gasped when may spoke and it reminded me of Caesar speaking for the first time.
Humanity about to make a comeback lmao
yep
I still remember when watching Rise when Ceasar spoke, the the whole theater went silent for a second.
I was shocked when she talked. I was like, how??
@@BrianGo1dthis a joke right?
You didn't mention one easter egg. Fort Wayne, Indiana is where Taylor says he's from in the original movie.
Chill bro
He talks about like 50 easter eggs in this video, bro.
Your respect and grateful level must be zero
Thats true
He also missed the doll from the original film's ending showing up in the bunker.
The aspect of Noa’s clan utilizing eagles is actually further insight of how they can and would coexist with “lesser beings,” such as humans, as both creatures can benefit from each other and thrive as a result…😉
Wouldn’t really happen tho since at the end Noah just loses trust in humans seeing how mae was willing to kill the eagle clan just to make sure the apes never flourish technology wise.he also gets angry looking in the telescope seeing the satellites activate knowing it was mae who gave them the “book”
@@princebealalthe3rd732 He didn't see them activate though.
@@Purplinessky he was looking into the telescope when they turned them on tho
@@princebealalthe3rd732 yeah but that's more off a hint that he's looking towards the future. We don't really know what he is looking at. It's more a representation that he is looking towards the future. Sorry if i sounded rude in my first response.
@@Purplinessky I mean idk it’s just my guess I don’t think they will do that time travel thing since it would be a huge change in the series but who knows it’s just my person theory that he saw the satellites turn on and he will attack the humans next movie idk tho
If you don’t see a character die on screen, he’s not dead. Franchise movies 101
Raka alive
Yes, that's what I said, too!
Raka can't swim
@@WSNight- fact. That won’t stop writers tho haha
Bruh you didn't watch post credit scene ?
Orangutan grunt was there , directly referred that he is alive .
Proximis is alive too
@@KICK839how is proximus alive
Yo they used the eagles for hunting, including fishing and mid sized land prey. They can also keep vermin from the area. Human settlements have been using Falconry for a while
well said. the reviewer didn't pay attention while watching this movie.
@@kevone-eo6pqhe leaves stuff out on purpose to create engagement reason why I went to heavy spoilers and never looked back
YO
How do you know they used the eagles for that? Never showed in the movie
@@ThoughtAbout-vm8sv the movie opens with scenes of the eagles being sent for fish, apes in eagle clan receiving & distributing the fish, as well as Noa fixing a fish hanging rack, and encountering Mae in the smokehouse, which is used to smoke & preserve large amounts of fish.
the eagles aren’t just a large part of their culture, but seemingly an instrumental piece of their ability to survive.
that ad transition was so seamless i really thought bruh was getting deep connecting to planet of the apes fr
Dude i said the same thing 😂😂
LMAO
No one has mentioned that noa has the same scar that Caesar did after he was shocked.
Dang I thought it was a birthmark ceasear had giving us a nod that he's ceaears descendant
@@brandonmillbank1917you would love lazy writing huh?
@@ThoughtAbout-vm8sv weird comment but okay 👍
So I think the astronauts are coming back too and I think they told us this in the movie…hear me out. When the main ape, Noa explained to Raka later on what he saw in the telescope he says something like “a tunnel swallowing light” at first I thought he was talking about the telescope itself and he could’ve been but what if he saw a black hole or wormhole? The same one that would soon bring those astronauts to that time.
I think Icarus from rise that was meant to land on Mars ended up in that worm hole,ended up colonizing another planet and found a way back 300 years later.i also have a feeling Mae found her way back first from that colony to scope earth out,and being told where the location of the bunker was.
It would explain why she wears quite futuristic clothes and why seemingly she isn't affected at all by the airborne virus,like she's generationally immune to it yet the settlers in the base great her in respirators.
I think he saw a space station or satellite which would explain swallowing light since it would be the only device with light in space besides stars I think at the end he saw the satellites activate which is why he looked angry knowing that he couldn’t trust mae.Just my theory tho
Bro you are cooking....
could be right
The telescope was dirty , he couldn’t see anything and remember right when he was going to wipe it clear , nova came in
I think he just was just amazed by the telescope BUT the telescope will be used to see the astronauts crash land that nova was speaking to in the end , if u look at the map on the radar u can see something rotating around the earth hint hint a space ship
Ape villains (Koba and Proximus Ceasar) was right in ensuring the best future possible for the apes. However, their ways went against the morality and principles of their Great Founder, Ceasar. So far, I like the ending. Hoping Rakka survived and show again in the next movie. The work continues.
Agree
I was really hoping that Noah would confront Proximus about the "Law of Ceasar" and tell the others about it. And wish they would have used the phrase from the original series that I loved so much as a kid, "Ape shall not kill ape!"
i like how the movie in the end gave us a slight hint of the dynamics of the groups of humans that now exist in this world,
1. The people underground that never had contact with the virus at all (the woman in the hazmat suit at the end)
2. People like mae that have contracted the virus and is immune to the silencing of speech from the virus
3. the people that didnt die of the virus, but are not immune to the side effects of the virus that makes them silent, and unintelligent
i mean thinking about it im really looking forward to what they do with this, its an interesting plot point having even the humans not being able to coexist with each other
I wonder if those bunker humans are the seed for the mutant humans in the future
And also doesnt the virus make humans lose intelligence
@@latestmush9281Read point 3 again
@@latestmush9281 social media does..
@@johnny44937mutant?
I throughly enjoyed this movie. It's pace, a slow burn if you will, felt right. It endeared us to Noa, just a young ape trying to do the best he could to make his family proud... It wasn't full of unnecessary over the top action scene either.
I played it on 2x speed on slow part and its perfect lol
@@thebenqismeTikTok cooked your brain
Caesar's first word that shocked a human: "No!"
Mae's first word that shocked the apes: "Noa!"
ok..
I hope this movie does great in the box office because I definitely want to see more of these movies!! I can’t wait until the next one comes out
It was clear that other than being a companion to the apes, the Eagles were also used to bring them fish.
Its cool that the movies are going back to the story of the original.
Some what but thankfully not fully.
@@stephensmith1307 At least not the sequels of the original ones.
As they should do. Continue the story. Enough of these remakes you know what i mean?
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY! 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dumbest/weirdest line in the whole movie
WHOT DUH WUNDUH FULL DAEH 🗣️🔥
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!
@@spencercorpuzit was a line from one of the books he was read. He liked it he also repeated it as a chant as how Emperors did back in the day when the town came to see the king. Not a dumb line at all
@@RegionalRadioShackManager it just made it feel like the dialogue was written by AI. The whole movie felt that way
The alpha~omega mutated human cult is the original children of atom in the fallout series. Lol
I concur
Yes lol
This movie already had strong Fallout vibes
@@baussier134 I was talking about the mutants from beneath the planet of the apes. Not feeling the fallout vibes with any of the modern apes movies tho
Fallout is an amalgam of multiple post apocalyptic media. The original Planet of the Apes inspired a lot of modern sci fi.
Aside from continuing the warped legacy of Caesar, Proximus adopted the name Caesar in part also to his heavy interest in Roman history where he saw himself as his generation's Caesar ruling over his new kingdom.
You literally made this up
That connection may be a nod to how apes like Proximus are able to adopt human ideas and human history into their own cruel structure of power. Him adopting the title of Caesar may be coincidental to the series.
@@ThoughtAbout-vm8sv I literally watched the movie. Did you?
FYI to anyone sponsoring better help or considering using it, they sell user private info to data brokers.
Two things
1. In the movie when Noa is talking to Raka the next day, he mentions how he saw a “light eating tunnel”, and explained Mae had the same reaction as Noa.
2. I’m pretty sure in the original movies (68) they explained that they were 2000* years in the future
What do you mean 2000 years in the future?
hahahaha, when your dog said "Man, how many of these apes movies are there?" I almost spit my drink! Too funny! ROFL 🤣
When she was delivering the code thing at the end, I half expected it to pan up to a vew of a golden nuclear bomb, implying they would eventually become the underground humans from Beneath lol.
Next movie or the movie after that. Tbey said m
This series is 9 movies so the last 3 should be about astrouants coming back to earth
Yeah I was hoping they were gonna call down a nuke, that would have been so cool
Another little nod to the original, when the apes are in the vault, one of them picks up a doll just like the original one and uses the exact some sound effect.
"Mama"
Looked and sounded nothing like the one in the original... for fok sake..
@@billieboybuddha4238 It wasn't supposed to look like the original. I was an homage to the original.
@@silvereagle2061 Im responding to the claim it was the exact same doll and sound from the original. Dont mix things up to 'win' an argument, read
I hope Raka survives. The orangutans are always my fav’ . Of course I left the movie exactly at the end , now I wished I’d stay for the after credit moment. Have to look it up now.
Thanks for this breakdown. Proximus’ death was legendary. Those eagles did their thing.
there was an after credit moment?
@@robi6317 yup if you look it up on RUclips, it’ll appear . That’s how I was able to find it .
@@robi6317an orangutang breathing.
I used Maurice to help teach people sign language. Now we got several people who know how to call people stupid. The thing is my favorite scene is when Caesar told Apes are strong together to Maurice, Maurice was already smart. he was able to communicate with Maurice , even though Maurice was not altered yet.
@@slewone4905 They made more sense than you do tho
I found it had some Biblical connections as well. Caesar was like a Moses type character who left laws that were perserved by Raka and Noa is a potential Christ like figure to fulfill those laws. Also his name is Noa and there's a giant flood scene. There's also a classic Joseph Campbell crossing the threshold scene which refelcts the chase scene from the original movie.
Why was Mae also surprised at what she saw in the telescope. Remember, Mae at that point is thought to be feral - yet we now know she's not. So she saw something that amazed even her.
Maybe she's only read about it? Big difference between hearing about something and seeing it with your own eyes
She saw a black hole in the proximity of earth. Noa described it as "a tunnel that eats light". I believe it'll tie to the time travel/time warp shenanigans of the old PoTA movies
@@aryobimo2199 i think "Tunnel that eats light" is the fact that the front of the scope is dark, yet the lense showed light, not referring to a black hole
Any one of us can be amazed looking through a telescope properly focused on something eg the moon. All the scene demonstrated was the similarity in intelligence between the two species and Noah recognising that fact.
@@UFO_computers That's what they want you to think at first, when you believe Mae is feral. But then, shortly after we learn that Mae is not feral and knows more than Noa knows about the world. So whatever Mae and Noa saw, that it cut off right at the end, must have been something.
Finally sat down and watched the new film and I LOVED it, I can not wait for more!!! Great breakdown, ty! I saw it on a plane so I totally missed the post credits Easter egg. Gonna go back and rewatch on Hulu ❤
also in the old trilogy the apes are scared of water. The was depicted by how apes were killed by breaking of the flood gates and when Raka almost drowned.
This is one of movie mistakes - apes cannot swim. I know - an evolution - but it is just 300 years. People needed thousands od years.
@@janhrivnak3407 Hundreds of thousands.
isnt that only in the Tim Burton film where they are scared of water?
@@kinothemysticcorrect; only in the Tim Burton film are apes afraid of water. Nowhere in the original 5 movies nor the first 3 from Matt Reeves is it stated that apes are afraid of water.
I thought it was supposed to be a Noah's ark type allusion to the flood. The main character was named Noah and after the flood you have a hawk instead of a dove.
I feel like this series is now stealing the spot in our hearts and minds that was previously reserved for all things Star Wars. Loved this movie and can't wait re-watch the whole series at the earliest opportunity!
One thing that I noticed was how Noah is one of the smartest apes on the planet , so far. He repaired the stun rod without ever having studied it before. He has seen books and technology in detail including the telescope. He has seen the heavens and may have seen a space station. He wants the best for his people and seems to understand that they do not truly know everything Caesar preached, so apes need to become more advanced in order to survive and cannot completely trust anyone, otherwise they will risk destruction. I don’t want the series to be a complete recycle of the past. I would like to find out that the apes find a way to release the waters in the silo and understand the technology to become extremely intelligent equal to and in some ways exceeding present day mankind. People like May are selfish and want the entire planet for themselves, but something needs to happen to force them to come together or perish! Maybe the secret to human survival resides in humans and apes being exposed to each other’s bodies and adjusting?
I think a part of the movie that was overlooked was that of Proximus. He ruled on what he believed was to be
Caesars way, but in reality he was obsessed with ancient Roman literature which spews the ideology of Julius Caesar. Hence his monarchy over the apes
Proximus didn't believe in Caesar's teachings...he didn't know about them.
All he knew was the fact that Caesar was the ultimate OG ape...so he manipulated that memory for his own benefit.
Proximus' only concern was his own power.
He would have sacrificed every ape life to open those doors if he had to.
That is as far from Caesar as you can hope to get.
I knew that betterhelp ad was coming as soon as i heard trama
EVERYONE mentions their personal trauma right before a BetterHelp ad
Betterhelp is such a scam.
"Instant 10 secs ahead"
Maturing is realizing Mai was the true villain of the story
no, she might be, in the eyes of the Apes, but that is the point of war. But this is what this movie scares me, and avatar, and others. It's teaching people self hate. we are humans, and we want our own to prosper.
@@slewone4905 nope... pretty sure she is the villain of this story or better call it antagonist. Not directly evil maybe but just pushing against the protagonist
@@slewone4905people might say she is the "villain" but if she doesn't flood the bunker they were going to get the weapons and the eagle tribe was going to still be slaved by proximus. He might not see it that way because many of his people died but Caesar wanted to have a kingdom and he would've been an even biggest tyrant.
I don't know bout you,,,, but I'm always rooting for the human race in this movies series so she was a hero to me. I thought Woody Harrleson was a hero in the previous one😮Sadly he died at the end!
@@slewone4905 humans are also ape. Not sure what sort of ideological spin you're trying to go with this but she was objectively a villain in the film. The film also had multiple villains.
I thought Noa got a glimpse of Saturn in the telescope because that’s the planet he focused on in the human facility’s classroom.
Also I have to say I was waiting for some sort of flood event seeing as the main characters name was Noa. There does seem to be a religious element to the characters. Caesar being the law giver (Moses) leading his people to freedom, and Noa saving the righteous from the flood. Naming the next main character Jesus would be a bit too on the nose I would think though. Haha
I abselotely loved this film! I can't wait what's coming next!
Fun little Easter Egg: the woman in the hazmat suit is played by Dichen Lachman, who was also in the television series The Last Ship, which was also about a man made plague that wiped out the majority of humanity.
And a similar role in the 100... carbon something and in shield
@@ArtDutchNever saw The 100, but did see Altered Carbon and SHIELD. She also was the Dino trafficker in JW: Dominion who sicced the raptors on Owen and Claire in Malta.
I always think of her as one of the mains from Dollhouse.
She's also from Severance! a sci-fi queen truly
yeah, that would never happen, because we got these movies to remind us never to engineer a deadly disease. You know, like genetically altering a coronavirus, which we never ever been successful in making a vaccine of, before, or maybe not pay Chinese to engineer the Avian flu virus, even after the coronavirus fiasco. I mean humans can learn from their mistakes.
Nice video; but you missed a small, albeit important detail from the 1968 movie. In that movie, Cornelius mentions to Taylor that human's are not allowed to speak, only apes can speak. So actually, humans in the original films lost their ability to speak because they were brutalized and banned from speaking by the apes over generations, eventually losing their speech. A much crueler way the apes dealt with the humans in the original movies...
That's wild not gonna hold you!!!!!
Holy shit that is crazy to think about
I could imagine it went both ways. Those that could speak knew not to in certain company.
Not sure about that.
I recently watched the originals and this straight up doesn't happen and isn't implied
I sat though all the end credits of "War" in the Cinema, expecting some sort of teaser that the Ircarus [Mars ship] was 'back online' or something....
Did you see the end credits for this one? They had something
Same here.
@@Grimmjow19872there's only an audio cue after the credits.
Love Ryan's idea about the astronauts showing up and bring the human/ape conflict to an end. Very intriguing.
Nah, I want the nuclear bomb and time travelling plots to happen again
Honestly though this was the best prequel in the franchise behind "dawn of the planet of the apes " was solid beautiful film i found noah to be an interesting character pacing was great as the story wise it had a satisfying conclusion, and pretty intriguing set up for next.
I think it's a bit too slow and drawn out in places to be the best of the current franchise. But still really great!
@@alexp601agreed it was slow 😅
These aren't prequels. They are set within a different universe from the original 5 movies.
@@notmephisto1375 I don’t think that’s ever been officially confirmed? There is a chance it could end up being a prequel to the original films.
@@alexp601 other than the original movies and the modern day ones having different plots and timelines? Why don't you just watch the movies yourself and you'll know how you're obviously wrong.
This movie was everything I wanted it to be! As a longtime planet of the apes fan, there was so much to appreciate and I loved all the call backs and foreshadowing for what’s to come. I haven’t felt this much excitement walking out of a theater since Endgame!
As a longtime planet of the apes fan, this movie was totally dissapointing
The black hole Noah and Nova saw forsure is gonna be a time travel plot device!
what tells you it was a black hole? Noa described it as "the light" and a black hole would be void of light
@@KingProximusblack holes have the halo of light around the event horizon as shown in interstellar
@@vanguardanon4979 yes, but Tunnel that eats light was a description of the telescope, not what he saw inside the telescope
No just stop. Black holes are theoretical you can’t even see one, idk why people keep saying this 😂
@@zaab-yaoh9302 you can with a very powerful telescope because of halo of light. Literally Google black hole photo
Fun fact, Ryan Arey's first video on ScreenCrush was about Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes and why it isn't as bad as you'd think. That was about 6 years ago? And I've been a fan/subscriber ever since.
The one thing you didn't touch on was Mae's origin. If she was born underground, how is she immune to the virus on the surface? Or was she born on the surface, but happened to be genetically immune to the virus and the mutated virus? Then the underground humans somehow contacted her and recruited her?
Is the virus still airborne after 300 years ? It was airborne during the initial outbreak and the survivors on the surface were just immune to it and passed the immunity on to their children. Idk if its still airborne now, the humans alive now just carry it from their ancestors so they arent breathing it in.
Great question kinda sucks they didn't answer that in the movie
There are a number of humans who are genetically immune such as Mae and the old guy that helped Proximus. She lived with other humans that were immune and most likely were on the same mission. But they were killed by Proximus and he took their map of the vault. She seems to be incredibly educated as she knew how every human thing worked but also knew how to live and blend in the wild
At the end Mae doesn’t go in the underground place where the human are because she thinks she got the virus
@@joycelyntaylor746 how so?
11:38 That's another easter egg since Taylor said he was from Fort Wayne in the original film.
Ahhh, nice catch. Ive been waiting for them to reference that.
Ryan: love your uniform and especially that modern styled nametag!! 🙃 Brings back lots of memories...a real blockbuster!!! During the conversation between Noah and Raka regarding Mae's reaction, looking into the telescope eyepiece, there was mention of a black hole. Raka seemed to have heard it from Noah describing what he had seen earlier. Time travel is definitely in our future films. Also, where (or when) were the people who responded to the distress call into space? They stated, "Fort Wayne". 📡📡📡📡
•I loved the birds in the film 🦅
•This was a great franchise builder, loved the world its in.
•W ape/other monkey characters (Rakka, Proximo, Noah…)
•Space angle > Time travel
No Time travel > Space Angle
@@pilot8220 we shall see tbh
From over the pond thank you indeed for your great critique and connections to each film and back to the originals. Brilliant!
They use the eagles for fishing. We see eagles catch fish, apes retrieve fish from eagles, we even see their smoke house where they cook the fish. May even steals one. Most apes aren’t buoyant, they sink immediately. Which is why the water is so dangerous. Eagles are their fishing poles
Yh no shit ur point
ok?
@@billieboybuddha4238 been 3 months, but I remember him not seeming to know why they had eagles
Really appreciated this explanation. I have been on the 50 year APES viewing journey, and never have been confused and dumbfounded until l saw Kingdom last night, and that ending that seemed to come out of left field. You have explained a lot - not all - but enough to keep it on track. I was especially confused by the varied groups of humans who seem to be at different stages of evolution. I do think overall though, that Kingdom was an amazing film that has viewers using their brains in ways not typical of summer blockbusters. I eagerly await the next chapter, and l will seek out more of your videos!
What a wonderful day to experience it yesterday. 9/10 movie 💯
My biggest theory is that the next movie will be the origins of the mutants from beneath the planet of the apes
Ohh. What’s the backstory on that? I haven’t seen the old movies
@@Grimmjow19872Humans survived underground after nuclear war, they mutated and developed psychic powers and afraid to go outside and they worship a giant doomsday bomb capable of destroying the earth.
@@Grimmjow19872 in the original movies, the apes across the globe fight back and the humans cause a nuclear holocaust, killing most humans but those who survived became mutated over generations with telepathic abilities
@@KingProximus ahh damn.
I just finished kingdom and I loved it, i didn’t think I was gonna like it so much because of no Cesar and no other apes from the old movies but the new villains were scary and that cgi is on another level omg
8:08 it is shown several times throughout the early scenes of the movie that the eagles are how they gather fish. seems like an extremely vital mechanism for their clan’s survival. Noa’s 2nd encounter with Mae in the smokehouse (the building full of fish) shows that it is probably their main source of food as well since they are making efforts to preserve the fish too.
they also use them for scouting it seems (when Noa’s father sent his eagle w/ Oda is one example). plus the ending when they use them for combat to defeat Proximus. i think their uses are many. if they learned to hunt, they would be very useful in that regard too.
Raka will show up when Noa is in danger in the next film.
He's going to catch the lightsabre that flies through the air
He comes back with a metal arm and foot „who the hell is raka!??“
Wish that happened in this movie tbh
Gandalf style
I truly hope Raka lived. He was the best character. Would love to knock back a few with Raka.
This whole series is biblical with the Moses thing with Caesar and now Noah
I think that influence helps makes these movies stand out above some other films. It's themes are rooted in such primary human values.
is what peoples dont see, this movie is what reality we are in.
@@skvrphvse1279 true especially the proximus vs other apes meaning elite vs the whole of humanity
Next will be Leviticus, The Ape. Who will be the Lawgiver.
Wasn’t there some dude who had something to do with a flood? 😅
movie was so fire thank you for the breakdown and always you and doug rock
I think you're right Ryan cuz apes and astronauts go to space all the time and it would be crazy if I open an astronaut and ape came out of a spaceship
Great video. Actually made me appreciate "Kingdom" a lot more.
So hyped for this movie! Not gonna watch this video until I see the film, but just wanted to comment because I'm excited.
Well explained, i hope next movie will be ❤️🔥
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Oh my! 😬
Loved this movie, it works well to link all the previous films and franchises together. Hope they make another one.
The water level at the vault bugged me... on one side of the boat there is a beach as seen when they are brought in. On the other side of the boat, they need a several meters tall wall to hold the water.
Also inside the vault, once the water rush in you can see them climb 4+ floors up, and the water is still rising. In one of the scenes the water is even coming from above them, after they have climbed. The water would not go above the natural sea level. So maybe a floor or two max based on the height of their sea wall.
Yea only the tanks would be destroyed. All the upper floors should be safe
Its just a crappy movie, not creative at all, same old same old, and mistakes like you mention now, writers of this movie are a joke
@@billieboybuddha4238It’s not that bad, relax
In the movie, wheb Noah uses the telescope he noticed a tube that swallows light in space. I believe he was referring to a black hole in which the astronauts that left three hundred years ago will return from.
So the twist at the end is that Nova/Mae is a Vault Dweller from Fallout?
Yep
not really a twist, Proximus reveals she was working with other people, and she also got a sat com key rather than something that could bring back speech. but yes, she was sorta a vault dweller, probably just someone the vault dwellers use to retrieve resources from the outside tho lol
I always hoped this reboot franchise would take Beneath seriously and Kingdom did. As soon as Nao entered the tunnel and finally ended up in the underground bunker I anticipated this Serling-type ending. Yes , humans cannot be human without their weaponry, their technolgy, their monoopuolzation of violence and the means of mass destruction. The gun Mae carries is her human appendage
In the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, the year is 2325.
That isn’t true. Even the director stated that “300 years in the future” isn’t true. It’s just many generations later. There hasn’t been anything specific showing the time that this movie takes place in.
@@wildlions8195 exactly, I don't know where People got that "300 years"
Many to me is like 20 or 30. considering there’s about 4-5 generations in 100 years it’s got to be like 500 years at least
@@wildlions8195 I will stick with 300 years later.
"many generations" would be ape/chimp generations not human
What is for apes …was the most powerful dialogue from the movie
I think William Macy's character was their version of Taylor. They never explained where he came from. If he was from the underground bases, "Nova" would've known. His defeatist demeanor matches well with Taylor's cynical one. In the end they both gave up in humanity. That being, Nova was right to take him out... he would've either volunteeringly told, or they would've tortured it out of him. A shell of the man he was.
He isn't drop that stupid theory already lol
Taylor would not have helped the apes. Clearly others know how to read and there are pocket communities that could explain where he came from.
@@SupportGamin2024 lol.
@@Johnrigsby it’s his view of humanity is the reason for the comment. Both him and Taylor had given up on humanity. Taylor was cynical. And the end he made the play that destroyed the world. .
I love how this movie has basically 2 villains who are exactly alike but go about it in the smallest but most different way and that is selfishness: proximus clearly is the villain of the movie cuz he steals clans of apes and force them into his kingdom against their will and lets his soldiers kill their warriors to prevent resistance… but for the most part once your in his kingdom he isn’t THAT bad a ruler, all the apes seem to get breaks whenever they need so they are slaves to their labor outside of the mandatory meetings about the door but everyone would likely come and see regardless cuz of importance but he’s doing all of this why?? Selfishness, he wants to unite the apes but be the ruler of the united apes against humans and all other challenges… and then there’s may who is the second villain: may is extremely selfish like proximus but proximus’s selfish nature manifests individually, he only wanted success for himself and the apes could get what crumbles he left but all in all he cared for himself where as may was completely selfish not for her individual self but for the human species. May fully understands that apes are smart and sentient beings but she sacrificed the eagle clan to proximus, could have gotten Noa killed, as far as we known had Raka drown trying to save her, drowned MORE of the eagle clan and other apes from other clans and proximus loyalists, and KILLED A FELLOW HUMAN to get what she wants which was all in service of the human species. They both have selfish desires that manifested into deadly violence and lying and scheming but the intention between them was vastly different. I’m glad they don’t try and paint may as a good guy cuz she hung out with the main character, I like how her and proximus are synonymous to each other to Noa but may is redeemable whereas proximus sealed his fate.
Bortis did a great job as Raka.
What "book" were they talking about in the movie? I can't find anything on the topic.
"Poeple tolerate and live together ..?" That the biggest joke i've heard in this century
Great Video. All of you please keep up the great work!
Saw the movie last night and loved it. I think each movie will do a time jump similar to the previous trilogy and set May up as our main (albeit complicated) antagonist while Noa and his clan become more educated and technologically advanced than where we left off. I also think Ryan’s correct that the telescope scene near the end of the movie shows how much Noa and the apes have yet to learn, but need to in order to “evolve”. It’ll be interesting to see where they are from an intellectual stand point in the next film.
I saw kingdom last night. A little slow but really thought provoking and amazing visuals
This movie was slow? Man internet done ruined this gens attention span if yall think this is slow.
@@TheBeastInBlackReality...
@@TheBeastInBlack Yeah, seriously. The movie did NOT feel slow to me or any of my friends. If movies aren’t dumb and mindless they are slow I guess nowadays
I didn't think it was slow. It was just very story driven. There's not tons of action but that doesn't mean it was slow.
@@SolarisSaber Every second had me fascinated and glued to the screen. The world, the characters, all of it. I obly didnt like the ending cuz tbh i really liked Proximus and didnt care too much for Mae, and hated her for all the apes she killed and almost dooming Noas clan. Now the humans are gonna try to eradicate the apes again, cuz like Noa, Proximus, and Mae herself said, theyll never accept Ape intelligence, and wont let them have anything, cuz humans want it all.
Noa got his ass beat relentlessly the whole time 💀
He actually fought and used more of his intelegence than fists. At the end of th day he still did what he came to do and save his clan. But he was never meant to be a fighter but was very courageous. That's what I liked about him.
@@raf686 yea yea still got binked up alot 😂
@@sensaiuriah5440 yeah yeah and my point still stands. Not every character has to be a fighter, never did I say otherwise on him getting beat up. Instead of coming up with yeah yeah, maybe come up with something better 🤣🤣
I thought the first 3 were really good. 15:29 Kingdom of the Planet of The Apes was alright. It was good, and I hope they make another one or two apes movies. I would like to see where they go with it. 😮 Doc
I never liked the original films, but they've done an exceptional job with the remakes/reboot.
The care taken with each film is fantastic. I took a friend to see Kingdom & she hadn't seen any of the new films, but she loved it!
You didn’t mention the doll… that’s perhaps one of the best references to the original series 👎🤌
What did you think of the movie?
Hi
Has it even come out yet?
Great.
Waiting for the sequel cuz they can’t leave us hanging like that.
Good, a decent spin-off. BTW its supposed to be set around 300 years after the last movie.
AWESOME
What if tha sound at the end wasn't of raka but proximus Caesar😅
Hey Ryan do you see the characteristics between the Bible and the planet of the apes film series
worth watching. more of a classic take on the originals. leaving me want to see what the next one will show us, from space.
Does anyone else feel that they killed off Proximus Caesar too soon? He could've been a great overarching villain for the rest of the trilogy.
He fell into the ocean… may not be dead
@@wildlions8195 True... We can hope.
@@wildlions8195 righttttt
@@wildlions8195 i agree
Spoilers:
I hated Mae all throughout the later half of the movie and wanted Proximus to get the vault. The apes are gonna be eradicated noe thabks to her, and she already killed lots of apes flooding the vault.
I think that what they saw in that telescope was a space station,and that is what the humans were tryin to contact at the end when the girl was looking to the sky
@@FumbleMcStumble oowk