Cruising Through The South In 4 Electric Trucks! Ocean To Ocean EV Truck Race Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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#cybertruck #rivian #f150lightning
If this race teaches us nothing else we've learned that if you ever find yourself in an Out of Spec race you get on Dave's group. You won't win but you will have the best, most relaxing trip.
Aside from the Lightning’s miscalibration for the BMS and complete failure to pay attention to the correct Superchargers, the Ford crew is having the absolute easiest time of it.
Lightning needs some software updates to help with mapping and BMS, and only slightly faster charging to compete with the others in long distance driving or towing.
It always charges, consistent speeds, no thermal issues.
@@MADAmechanical Ford is way too conservative on the Lightning since it’s not even close to overheating. They could pare the 10-80% time down by probably 5-8 minutes pretty easily.
@@anthonyc8499 agreed. Was a safe strategy for their first truck. People have immense confidence in its ability to always charge and know how long it will take to charge. Seems like the other trucks are glitching, overheating, needing microfiber cloths on handles, etc
100% agree. It was nice having 1 or 2 teams using "normal" procedures.
Four teams:
- cyber "optimisation" team
- "don’t touch that defogging system" team
- "we are still here" team
- " what’s the next restaurant?" team
I love this video :D
The main character on the Rivian team is painfully silent.
That defogging scene had me lmao. We are in the funniest of EV times
Love the "what are we eating around here?" team!
20:03 I 20:06 @@LeesReviews69
I am with the next restaurant team.
Normal people would arrive to a charger at 24% - Kyle leaves a charger at 24% 😂
The Kyle Way.
LOL. 😄
aaaacccuuuuurrraaaatttteeeeee
thats cool bythe way wow thats all so you know
Thatsneed so you know
If I ever go on a road trip,I want to be with Team Ford lightning because they are the chillest and coolest team in this race
Yep. The trip estimator says we will be negative 17% and there is no place to charge for 200 miles. Everything is fine. Just ignore it. Ford is not good at software. lmao
I agree. Wouldn't want to ride with Kyle. too much stress. too much pressure.
Team lightning 😂
I dont even think they knew it was a race, sign me up!
Ya. They just don’t care. They unplug and wait a few minutes to drive. Kyle in the cyber truck wants everyone in the car 2% before ready to unplug.
They should get a prize for the coolest team
They we're doomed from the start 😂 love the truth but it's definitely not built for this
Lightning is leaving time on the table but I don’t think it matters that much. Getting only 150kW max at 10% is just killing them on time but the fact that they can surf 120kW to 80% makes it brain dead simple.
But that is closer to how people actually drive. Nobody drives on a road trip like Kyle does. People are going to stop at 20%, maybe 15%. Nobody is going down to 5% or less. People want to drive for a couple of hours then stop for 15 minutes for a restroom break or 30-45 minutes for a meal break. The lightning can do that. In comfort and without stress (especially now that you can use the supercharger network). People don't know anything about charging curves or anything like that. They just want to be able to plug in whenever they get low, whatever low may mean to them, or plug in when they need a restroom break, and get the same charging speed all the time. They hardly understand that different cars have different charging limits.
I love how the Silverado crew is questioning how the Rivian crew has caught up, thinking there must be some shenanigans goin on, when they have no idea that Kyle is breaking the law left and right to stay in the lead (e.g. running red lights, driving over curbs, bribing Bucky's employees to hold traffic to let them out of the parking lot ahead of everyone. :)
He always tilts the races to his advantage like driving the Porsche taycan against a mach e and and 2 teslas that didn’t have a clue. Ionic 5 didn’t do too bad.
I don’t mind Kyle showing rookies how it’s done. Breaking traffic laws is a no go but bribery to win? I love it
Not like they weren’t participating in the shenanigans. The Silverado team had to beg and bribe another EV to move off the only working fast charger last episode… charging on 150 vs 350 could have easily added half an hour to their time.
They didn’t bribe the employees the employees did it for them, the curb was because they were in the wrong lane.
it's not cheating if you don't get caught, just kidding, Kyle lol
How did y'all get all the introverts in the Rivian 😂😂😂
Another great episode. Love how team Kyle treats every charging stop like an F1/Nascar pit stop with the crew pouncing on the charge and dropping the flag to leave tires squealing, and team Dave casually enters / exits as if a Sunday drive in the country looking for the adjacent food choices.
I mean I know it's a race, but I'd much rather be riding with Dave lol
@@godofdun cannot disagree with that.
I'm all for team Dave's restaurant tour, colour me in 😊
@@godofdunlol yeah I'd rather relax on a 3k mile road trip 😅
Watching Kyle’s drill sergeant treatment of his crew was making me anxious. When did they sleep, eat or go to bathroom? God forbid you had to go for a number two…
F150 is on a Dave restaurant tour!
😂 team burgerking
Ha
Another race idea!!! You should have a race using the native navigation instructions. So put in a destination and whatever the vehicles says to do then stay with those instructions since most drivers will do whatever the vehicle says to do. This would test the efficiency and accuracy of each native navigations.
Great idea
Tesla nav trip planner is so inconsistent that it will likely either be so unusually optimized, or so unusually sub-optimal with no in between.
Just now on a 1200 mile drive, it tried to have me plug in at 57% when there were 3 chargers I could arrive to at 10% or less.
@@austina4189 totally understand but that is why they should do a video about it so that the problem gets highlighted
@@austina4189 Also, Tesla route planner takes weird backroads, a lot.
@@austina4189 maybe those other chargers were busy? That might explain why there is inconsistency
"I hope the silverado gets that 300kw charging speed, I want all the trucks to do well"
5 minutes later
"We just got good news, the silverado is having a 300 amp limit charging problem"
😂😂😂
that's what they all say, until the Silverado has a problem lol
situational cognitive dissonance
The Lightning crew are on vacation traveling.
Looks like it'd be the most fun crew.
The F150 is a cruiser!
Free trip lol hell yeah
Is it weird to say that this is the content I look forward to most every weekend? 😂 This race is fantastic!
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Not weird
I was looking for this too. 😅
I’m Team Lightning on this one, just seems like they’re having the most fun on this trip.
It is hilarious how different Kyle and Dave are. Kyle: "3 seconds, plug, go go go." Dave: "Oh I left the port open? I'm just gonna keep putting on my seat belt and let the driver get out and get it..."
These videos are way more engaging than I expected.
I couldn't travel with Kyle on these trips. WAY too competitive, which turns him into a massive control freak. I'd be shouting CHILL OUT the whole time ;)
Kyle’s team has had to run stop signs, cut lines, go over curbs, running a red light to get an advantage!
To be fair.... that is also their normal driving style. Just now it is on video. ;)
do whatever you have to do to win, haha lol
Dave is just there for the food tour across the states 😂
Tom should have loaned them his pizza oven!
1:26:25..."That light is red, we are red...who's going?" Love the cut to being past the lights now...lol
What I’m learning is don’t be on Kyle’s team. He’s not the nicest and complains when he’s not “winning”. Bends the rules for his benefit but complains that the others drive too fast. Insightful
So cool! We did a 1000km with a Tesla Model Y LR through 5 different countries in Europe and it was super easy. Love EVs! Thanks to this channel I am very unstressed traveling with an EV.
The F150 definitely isn't playing to win. They're just going for the participation trophy
I don't think the Lightning even had a chance due to its charging curve.
They are just enjoying the ride…..
I think they nailed when they said they were the most comfortable lol. Pretty much why I got one, never really in a hurry and for daily driver the truck is amazing. But yes will not win any races or off road or towing or software or … 😂 but access to Tesla SC is still a game changer for road trips!
@@MarcB707it just works 😂 I love the lightning the most honestly it's the legacy truck. Actually the only real truck there
@@MarcB707Lightning is an incredible machine, it’s just held back by the slower charging at the bottom end. 450A at 10% means they’re only getting 150kW which is painfully slow against 215-250kW that the Rivian and CT are getting. The Silverado would be running away with it already if they could actually get fast charging.
Stopping every 45-60 minutes to “optimize charging” is exactly why a lot of people wouldn’t use an EV for a long trip. I’d love to see a race between the most efficient Tesla, and the new Prius. Break down both time, and cost difference
And carbon footprint
@@e2dub Yeah! And be sure to include the carbon footprint of building the car too! How much CO2 was burned mining and refining the lithium and where what source is used to produce the electricity
You don't need to optimize charging on a long trip. This is a race. Watch the optimization that goes into a cannonball run. ICE car drivers aren't doing that on road trips.
You cut that red light running out there Cybertruck team, around the 1:26:10 point, dont think we didnt notice! 😂
Lol, the ford guys were just not motivated to be as efficient and optimized as possible... that being said it looks like they had a pretty relaxed and fun ride
Ok... I was wrong about that.
1:20:23 Honestly, I think contrasting the two experiences between the Silverado and the Cybertruck, I'd take 30 to 40 minute stops every 200+ miles over 10 minute stops every 80 miles every time. It's just a more realistic way of traveling.
I think the answer to that question comes down to human factors. The best road trip experience is not the fastest one, but one where the needs of the car and the human are aligned. That is, when you are tired and need to go to the bathroom, that is when the car needs charging, and when you're hungry, that matches the point in the trip where you need a deep charge. And, conversely, when you're refreshed and have the energy to drive a long time without stopping, the car also has enough charge in its battery to be able to drive a long time without stopping.
Because every human has different needs, there is no one answer to the question of whether it's better to have more shorter stops or fewer longer ones. It all depends on the people, and even the same person, it might very depending on how tired you are that day, and what time of day you are getting out (which influences how the charge times will align with meal times).
I personally like the pattern of going 200 miles on the first leg of each day, with 100-mile stints for each segment thereafter. On my most recent trip, I did followed this pattern as much as I could, but I had one section where, due to lack of charging infrastructure, I had no choice but to charge to 100% and cover 175 miles without a charge stop. Yet, my body still needed bathroom and rest breaks, and I found myself stopping multiple times on this stretch anyway, even though I wasn't charging.
@@ab-tf5fl I've heard that perspective about more, shorter stops echoed a lot more frequently in the last 5 years, and it makes me wonder whether it isn't more about people adjusting their expectations to match the needs of the car. To me, that's still being tethered to the charging infrastructure, and it's very much a Tesla-specific experience/perspective.
Yes, people in the past sometimes made a half dozen stops in a 175-mile stretch, but that was because they wanted or needed to. The car's needs never really factored in. Heck, I still do that in my Bolt EV today, but those extra stops are almost never about charging.
Those short stops are definitely welcome sometimes, but they shouldn't be every stop. And in this case, it's showing a real weakness on the part of the Cybertruck. Assuming the Silverado Team can find full-power charging (which appears to look unlikely on this trip), a 10-min stop in either truck will produce the same results in terms of adding range. The difference is, if the Silverado stays for 20 or even 30 minutes, it is doubling or tripling its gains, while the Cybertruck starts suffering from serious diminishing returns.
So regardless of your personal preference, the Silverado works fine for either. The Cybertruck on the other hand only really shines for those who want to make numerous short stops.
@@ab-tf5fl i partially agree and would correct it with, the car needs have to align with human needs, not the other way around, and that's why gas car are still very popular.
Agreed. I think all participants and especially Kyle are failing to factor in just how much time it takes exiting the highway. It's usually better to do fewer but longer duration charging stops, as long as the charging speed doesn't tank that much.
I guess my view is a little bit skewed driving the Kia EV6 where I can charge pretty fast up to 90%... ⚡
@@ArtiePenguin1 Yeah. I think Kyle's strategy is sound if all you're trying to do is make it to your destination as quickly as possible. The Cybertruck can maintain an average charging speed of 240 kW if you stay between 0% and 40%. The Silverado 4WT should average ~250 kW from 0% to 80%, so the 3WT (assuming they can find chargers working at full power) should average ~210 kW from 0% to 80%.
So in terms of average charging power, Kyle's team can beat the Silverado EV 3WT by making about three to four times as may stops in the Cybertruck, so the question is whether they can take a quarter of the time to get to charger, activate it, and get back on the road again.
I can’t wait for part 3 😂😂
Next Thursday!
Really!!!
I love the Ford crew. They really don’t have a chance and they know it but they are having the most fun. People don’t talk about it much but the F-150 is the Bolt of trucks. 150 max charge rate and 1.8 miles per kWh is not going to win this race no matter how consistent it charges.
That said,I’d take the F-150 in this race with these guys any day. Most comfortable truck with the most fun crew. The Silverado is close second for fun. Great to see Robert from Aging Wheels, one of my favorite channels.
Remind me to never take a road trip with Kyle.
He acts that way when he isn’t in a race just driving with Alyssa he push push pushes .
As someone asked, please put the truck / team name on the screen to make it easier to follow with all the cutting to and fro.
kyle is more serious about winning and charging efficiency than everyone else combined
“Where the bananas go?”
“And I’m gonna need a few more excedrin.”
I have always really liked Kyle's demeanor in other content. This one not so much, giving me Karen vibes micromanaging the team like that. I get that it is a race and crazy driving doesn't bother me, but sheesh. If I were in that car I'd have checked out in Part 1. I really like all the other team vibes, even Rivan's introverted celebrations :)). If this is what it takes to win... I'd rather lose and have a good time. Team Lightening all the way.
If we measured heart rate/happiness along the way. Ford would WIN hands down.
All all for Team Ford doing Food Reviews Across America at this point, lol
Really doing the Lightning a disservice by not charging to 80% at each stop. Signed, a Lightning owner.
Yeah their charging strategy really makes no sense. They got explicitly told at the start to always charge to 80% so they could get more power at higher voltages with the boost but I guess they kinda forgot on the way :D
But they are getting the best food so at least thats something
Nobody has explained to them that the 120kW plateau to 80% means they’d be charging way faster than they can burn it off on the drives between charges.
Yup. Fewer but longer duration charging stops are better because you save time not having to exit the highway. All the teams are failing to account for this. I drive a Kia EV6 and it charges really fast up to 90% ⚡ I frequently find myself over charging but in turn I have extra buffer
@@ArtiePenguin1 road trip charging stops in my MME are usually 20-25 mins, 10 mins if I’m rushing. Because the MME is so slow, this only gets me 40-50% back, tops. It’d be nice to have the EGMP performance of getting back to over 80% without hardly trying.
@@anthonyc8499 Mostly due to charging performance (and how much I road trip), I'd never buy a non 800-volt vehicle. The 800-volt architecture is just far more efficient.
I've seen only 1% or less battery degradation and I've charged my EV6 to 100% for about 3-4 months continuously in its first 14 months of ownership. I've driven about 35,000 miles so far.
I'll have more in-depth videos about my EV6 coming to my channel soon, so consider checking it out and getting subscribed⚡
I respect the food stops by team F-150
You should have also had a Gas vehicle team just for a comparison lol
I was thinking the same thing. They should have had one gas Ford F-150 or Silverado just to compare time, convenience, and money spent on charging/filling up on gas.
They should make a video about filling up when not on a road trip, which is 90%+ of most driving. See how many trips to the gas station the gas team makes vs. the EV team makes during a month. Then add up all the minutes the gas team spent at the pump that month vs. how much time the EV team spends plugging in in their garage over that same month.
Complete the trip 10 hours faster than the competition probably. Zero range anxiety/planning of stops.
@@fernando.estrellaor the pickup on the complete opposite end of the spectrum, the Ram 1500 ecodiesel. Would only need to fuel 3 times.😅
@@philb5593 EVs have zero range anxiety. ICE have a lot of range anxiety. I have never walked out to my Tesla and had to ask myself if a 1/16th tank of energy would be enough to get to work or if I need to be a few minutes late again to fill up. Millions of people face that question daily driving an ICE.
On another note, what if you owned a company? You towed a TM3 on a trailer every day. It was a long haul. 800 miles. Would you pay $50k on a new ICE and then spend $233 a day in fuel?
Or would you spend $70k on an EV and then $150 on electricity, with an hour refuel time?
In 2 years the ICE costs $60,500 in fuel and $14,500 in truck payments and $1200 in maintenance? $75,200
In 2 years the EV costs $48,000 in fuel and time and $20,000 in payments and $200 in maintenance? $68,200
It is just math. Paying the worker $35/hr to drive seems nice.
New drinking game -you have to do a shot every time Kyle says “rip”
That man never stops talking.
Don’t forget “spicy.”
Every time he points out a car....
Optimized
f150 team is just chilling. i love it
The saga continues!
i know that thays cool by the way
Dinners, Dave and F150 Lightnings!!
I am about to by my first BEV and I could never road trip with Kyle. His style and attitude on these trips is the antithesis of what would make a good road trip. I found out of spec looking for people talking about their BEV. I'm morbidly curious in a horrified way every one of these races I've been watching the last two weeks.
It is amazing how different each team is for this race. Really makes these videos so interesting.
Does Kyle also talk in his sleep? ;-)
Pro tip from a Nissan Leaf owner.... When you guys are rolling with no heat, put the defrost on cold, with the fan speed on low. The little bit of air movement will be enough to keep you from fogging up. I run this way all winter long... because I HAVE TO 😂😂😂
Out of Spec Dave's Fast foods across America
Just love the passion they show in their videos
There needs to be more video from the Rivian crew, I am definitely pulling for them. If this was a mystery movie, then I would say the filmmakers are keeping silent on the Rivian group, because they will surprise everyone and come out of nowhere and win the race.
Shout out from Beaumont TX, we just got our very own SC recently, glad you stopped by!
Loving that lightning team! Very good cliffhanger at the end. Can’t wait until next week
15:30 The Coen Brothers made No Country For Old Men.
Awesome movie.
For Kyle this is safe, & good driving. I saw a video of his not too long ago with him, & his wife (he was driving, & his wife was in the front passenger seat -- he made a left turn on red traffic light across a 8 lane route. 😂. It was very late at night. He never flinched, & neither of them said a thing about it. I rewound the video 4 times to make sure my eyes saw it correctly. Yes, my eyes saw it correctly. I was shocked indeed. 😮
thats something you are funny litte bit so you know
@@tiffanygottlieb2590 : thank you. I really appreciate it.
That is his current and previous girlfriend - he had a slight detour with a Porsche blonde girl.
@@GA-wq8xq : we all consider his current girlfriend his wife. This happened with his current girlfriend / ('wifey' aka wife) just a couple of months ago in a video.
every time I hear the ford door chime I hear "scoobie doo, sccobie doo"
you preet good thats insorit
Zoinks!!!
Team Dave for the Food tour
Aside from the Cybertruck and the Lightning's supercharger access during this race, it's all about the CCS crapshoot. Roll the dice and hope for the best. Around and around it goes, what speeds you're going to get is anyone's guess. Place your bets.
This has been so fun to watch! 👏Cant wait for Part 3!
That ending though 😮
Also never underestimate Kyle’s competitiveness
I've been waiting for this checking every day!
Thoroughly recommend watching at 150% playback speed then switching back to 100% five minutes from the end, then you realise how stoned everyone is. Especially OOS Dave, he's blazed. No wonder he's so hungry.
I’m too stoned to notice HA
"About to leave" at 62% when getting 198kw?!? Hell no!
I’m hoarse from screaming at Dave ‘close the charging door’ lol
Pulling for team Rivian!
I love the race, but I would like to see a map or something every once in a while to better know where each team is relative to one another.
You can follow along these races by opening a separate browser tab with PlugShare and locate all of the chargers they are using/going to on the map.
I thought it was just me. I got really confused over who was in what place.
This is more interesting than a F1 race 😁
For some reason I believe Kyle would be ultra-competitive in a game of dodgeball with 6 year olds.
I can't get over the fact how unbelievably incredibly hideous looking that cybertruck is
More reckless driving by Kyle
Love this series! next time you do this challenge another rule you should have is at lease 1 time all car/trucks must charge to 100% during the race. That would be cool!
In a way, you guys are truly illustrating the nightmare of "Range Manxiety" (suggested archive subtitle for this Video).
At least Dave ate well.
If I participated in a race like this I would like to be in Dave’s team. At least I would be well fed 😂
If you are playing to win, ride with Kyle, but expect to be pushing the envelope all the time. If you are going for comfort, ride with Dave, but don't expect to win. Based on their personalities, that is not a surprise at all! Fun race.
surprisingly exciting
I love how long these videos are!
You passed through my hometown of Lake Charles Louisiana! Sorry about the smell and lack of decent charging infrastructure. We are a petroleum town that happens to be a city.
Kyle's driving that CT like its a Nissan Leaf 😂😂
Kyle would get the f150 to 1st place and dave would get the cybertruck to last place.
There is no possible way that F-150 gets 1st place no matter who's driving it. Also I'd go with Dave regardless if I were to choose who I want to drive with.
Can’t say I appreciate Kyle driving 7000 lbs around that recklessly… Also kind of skews the results in the end
“Oh that’s where I’m going, Taco Bell.” Love that.
This team deserves a enima
Out of spec is basically the successor to the good years of Top Gear.
That's a no lol
I watch some of these videos because I like EV news. Hours of highway driving is pretty much not at all like top gear. This might be geriatric gear or niquil gear if you can’t sleep.
They're like 75% of what Top Gear was. If they had an actual network budget, they'd arguably be better, since they're willing to do much longer and more varied content.
At best their 5th gear lol but not Top
You guys driving through Beaumont brings back memories. I lived in that area for decades. I'm really sad you didn't show the big sign right before Orange. Beaumont 4 miles. El Paso 857 miles.
try cracking the right and left windows to clear the windshield, only works driving down the road
Surprisingly good fun , really enjoying the banter and energy , of the race. Kyle for sure is in true race mode. Im seceretly following the f 150 team , just like that truck , but the Cybertruck is growing on me.
Not much video from the Rivian crew, I really don't have any idea what % they're arriving at or leaving at.
Yeah they are definitely light on the stats. I was very disappointed they mentioned *nothing* about that Shell Recharge BTC Power HPC station. I tried using a similar one in my EV6 in Council Bluffs, Iowa and it didn't work at all. I guess their session was flawless but they hardly talk at all. They should have been instructed to be more thorough with the data logging...
We all know after all the fast food stops, Team Lightning was rolling with the windows down 🤣
Kyle is a mad man.
Mad about allisa
75% of this is team kyle. Please dont let this channel become a tesla fan boy circle jerk. And yes, would much rather be team dave!
Next time you should be limited to using the onboard navigation for charging stop planning, like regular customers would do :)
Team Dave for the win, fast food tour of the US.
I saw three Tesla Cyber truck's in Austin Texas the day before Easter!
Amazing futuristic technology
We all know Kyle put the **despair intensifies** text over his dad walking around at the end. 😂😂
Love the way Dave does it! Must be a senior citizen thing.
Coolness prevails
"Driving like assholes for the views" should be the name of this series.
Thanks for this series. Unfortunately the longer I watch the more you guys are convincing me to drive one of my ICE vehicle, instead of my EV, on my next long trip. Thanks for the virtual experience. ;-)
This is my current favorite show!
Love the long format. Keep it up!!!
Dave and Kyle are such polar opposites. Kyle is so high strung and competitive and Dave just wants to eat and go to Buccees! 😂
Woohoo! Been waiting for this next installment. I just placed my order for a new Model 3 LR and now I almost feel like part of the family. 😁
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congrats!
5:20 This is exactly the reason why I say drive 60, not 80.
It is much more efficient, which outweighs the extra charging time, hassle, and extra stops.