REAL TALK: Fighting Game Advice from Experience/Persistence
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This was the first thing I did. Back in 2014 when I started playing Street Fighter semi-seriously, I lost. A lot. I always tell people that when I played online, I lost /every single game I played/ for almost /six months/. But you know what really sold me on the idea of continuing to play? I played a Guile back when I first started, and he whooped my ass. I think I managed to throw him once in both games, that was it. Then I fought him again about a month later and he still whooped my ass but he had one thing to say in a message:
"You're getting better, keep it up."
Ever since, I have been persistent as possible when it comes to learning these games.
those are the best players to play against and with. hope you have them on a friend list
that's awesome, man. Kinda made my eyes well up....in a manly way of course
I remember picking up SF4 back in 2013 and I was on the same boat. My mains were Ibuki (Gotta love ninjas), Chun Li, and Cammy. On occasion I'd pick Juri. I eventually made some friends along the way who were really awesome and we would practice together. Man I miss those days. I'm currently playing a lot of Tekken 7 and I gotta say it's hard as hell considering it's the first Tekken game I'm getting serious with.
Im late here but ive been playing DBFZ for a while and i think im better than novice players but combos like gohan machine gun kicks or wall bounce combos i cant get them twice in a row been practicing for months i dont get it... any advice does every one take forever to learn something .. and yes i got to a rank were i coudlnt beat anyone anymore
Fake
Some of the best advice I've gotten for fighting games has to be: Play to learn, not to win. Figure out what you might be doing wrong, and learn what your opponents are trying to do. It's a great approach for going into matches, and a great way to think while playing.
I got the exact opposite advice lololol
people always told me play to win, which is why I learn top tiers hehehh
I agree with this philosophy! Ever since adopting this mindset, I've actually been winning a lot more and have been enjoying games more. "Playing to win" doesn't necessarily mean that you must win every single match or else you're doing it wrong. There will always be someone better out there. Even if you won Evo, that just means you were playing better than everyone else during that day. It doesn't necessarily mean that you will win tomorrow. And that puts a lot of pressure and stress on an activity that is supposed to be fun and rewarding.
Sometimes a player might be way too strong for you to beat consistently in one session, and that's when I think it's important to focus on small victories. How is he getting his damage? How can you avoid it? What are some of the moments you think you might be able to take advantage of? Answering questions like these regularly will lead you to becoming a stronger player.
@@Xurley12 Probably good advice if you're already experienced, but this is a surefire way for a newbie to get frustrated and quit. As a new player, you're an ape learning to crack open a nut with a rock, you shouldn't bother planning your space program just yet.
Easy, being unlucky.
Unfortunately, due to catering to newcomers, that advice doesnt work as well anymore
you ever like a certain character but are better at someone else
Yup, I am pissed at myself that every time I play Gulity Gear Ky is the only person I can actually get consistent wins with whenever I go online.
Thats almost everyone. I really like Juri in usf4 but I am terrible at her, meanwhile M. Bison i am actually kind of decent with.
mrHowlll all the time
Yup, in MK11 I'm horrible with my fav. char Noob Saibot but I gotta choose Sub-Zero or Scorpion to stand a chance against anyone. Also wish I was good with Cetrion Nightwolf and Shang Tsung but alas it is not meant to be :'( Noob was good af in 9 tho
@@oddluck4180 I want to main M. Bison so bad but I am really better with Guile
On the real this might be the most important max video ever man. This is straight up real talk from the heart. How do I know cause I lived it too. Arcades eating up a bunch of humble pie on my stream. The most fun matches I've ever had was when I was out classed but gave it everything I had and made the matches close. It is frustrating yeah but you learn most by breaking out of your comfortzone. A comfortzone is a beautiful place but nothing ever grows there
You and Max are dropping knowledge man. I remember thinking I was hot stuff at MKII at the arcade, then another kid stepped up, put his quarter down to be next, and Jax'd me. Really humbled me. It made me want to get better, not retreat. Glad I had that attitude... and more quarters lol.
beautiful
How outclassed were you? Was it like you had so awareness of your options compared to your opponent (who knew what to do and how to get at least decent gains off of any manner of button press)? That's how it's been for me in some cases - and particularly in those instances, there aren't many players (if they exist at all) who are at the same level of skill as I am.
For me, that can be a bit of a morale killer, and tends to be the reason I give up in fighting games so often (though I also just keep throwing myself mindlessly at the continue/rematch button - just for the hell of it - until my opponent gets tired of it).
I feel that the general mentality of anyone new to the genre is that they don't want to put that much effort into a game they may not even like. Like, they're trying it out but maybe it hasn't clicked with them yet.
I dunno, I just feel like there's a giant chasm between me and other players at times, and that it would take me a long time to just reach the bare minimum skill level to achieve "minimum competency" at a fighting game.
that last line is very insightful, and very timely for a lot of things in my life right now. you should bring out this side of yourself more often, Kenny. it's good stuff.
+guitar3544 I do dood more so on my solo streams and recent RUclips videos yovideogames streams are party time
Yeah, you just have to keep at it and keep a positive attitude. Practice, ask questions, and don't get discouraged. Someone beats you, t-bags calls you a scrub and quits... Stay calm, relax, and keep playing for FUN. Losing nor winning a lot defines you.
Bro I hear you on the MK11 grind. It's frustrating as all heck when you've been dunked on, t-bagged, and eat a fatality... just to have them leave after the set. I used to be pretty average at MKX, thinking I could take the same logic into MK11, and it's been TOUGH. I really needed this. So thanks to all the wholesome positivity in the comments and video.
So as a thirty year old only now trying to get into fighting games, I have to say, it's overwhelming. Not only do I have to fight the uphill battle of learning the numerous terms that are being thrown around, I have to undo years of muscle memory button mashing.
I think the biggest hurdle more than anything is training myself to look for certain moves and learning what they do. Honestly, watching videos of top players and seeing what they do is extremely helpful, but I'm still in the nebulous spot where all this stuff feels like it's hovering just out of place and I simply can't piece it all together.
I don't mind losing because I know it's the only way I'll get better. The most demoralizing thing is I knowing you're on the cusp of making all this work, and still falling short. Oh well, nose to the grindstone.
I feel that man, it can be rough
exactly what im feeling man..
man just pick the game, enter training mode and star practicing just punches an kicks in a strict secuence that will help you to get the feel of the gameplay and will engrose you to try new things like especial moves
Damian Torres
Yeah, I chose KI because I recently upgraded to windows 10. I'm going back and forth between practice mode and survival. So far I'm best with Orchid, but I'm afraid that has more to do with me being a button spammer than anything.
also tutorials if the game has them, I know SFV has character demonstrations and trials and it also has KEY DISPLAY(this will help you with doing moves) after you done practicing in training mode set the A.I. to level 8, you'll lose a lot but you might win a few games and if you win three in a row you are DEFINITELY ready for some matches.
I remember being afraid of losing, so that's why I never played online for so long. Now I have fun no matter what happens.
How did you get over that fear ? I'm struggling with that, I would just get upset that after hours of practicing I decide to jump online and a guy bodies me hard and he decides to taunt me or message me telling me I'm bad, makes me feel like all the practice was for nothing. Happened to me last time I played sfv I was Nash and I played a Laura who taunted me.
Honestly, what I do to get over my fear of losing is the same way I get over all my fears which is to face it and realize that no matter how much I lose at the game, the true lose is quitting the game and giving up. If I give up, then I truly lose, so I keep pushing myself to learn and adapt to fighting other people and learning their in and outs while developing yourself as a player. I have lost countless games playing Street fighter and Super smash bros. but the satisfaction of winning a game is unreal. But, then I realize that I can win another one, and another, and another. So I keep playing to show myself I can do it. I can defy the odds and beat them. And you can too. I went from losing every match to winning many matches. And I keep going. If I can do it then you can do it. You can become the best player you can be, but you have to be willing to take that risk to go for it.
+Naga itzu you just have to get used to facing an online opponent.I play sf5 we can have friendlys till you feel ready,sometimes you just need a sparring partner to learn with losing is part of growth,who cares what people say.
Naga itzu After practicing, doing some combos that weren't flashy but effective, and finding a character that felt good to play and fit my play style, I just jumped in. Don't get me wrong, I lost. But it was a close game and I just found myself having fun. Sure I ran into spammers, t-baggers, and a guy who hated me for using a certain character. But sprinkled throughout these were fun fights where me and my opponent adapted to each other's play styles and tried to decide our next moves. It may seem hard at first, but keep going and you will find you're not afraid to lose anymore.
+cptphantom yeah it just doesn't feel good, but I haven't given up yet probably won't though I love fighting games a lot, and I won't let my fightstick investment go to waste.
I love how everyone, including Max, fails to mention the one true way to getting good fast at a fighting game. Identifying space and opportunity. The best games for showing this are Super Smash Bros. (N64), Divekick, and ironically enough, Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo. Each of these games drastically lacks the amount of complexity most other fighting games have, and instead have super short, to no combo's. This is what fighting games are at their core. What Max is more describing, is the multiplayer experience. It's the simple fact that the opponent is now processing information in a non-linear fashion in order to one up you, and you have to be one step ahead just to keep up. There isn't a single multiplayer, competitive game that doesn't fit this mold. Combating the human element requires the grind. The problem fighting games have is the transparency. Aside from dive kick and most of the Smash Bros. games, most fighting games attempt to shove fifty different mechanics down players throats. Often times expecting them to just pick it up and deal. In reality, what people who want to get into fighting games is play, and that's the one problem they have. So, if you want to get good fast, follow my advice. Focus on trying to control space, and look for opportunities to even minutely capitalize. Once done, the rest of the game shouldn't be that much harder to figure out. Most of the time anyway.
It really depends on the type of adversary I face online. If I get destroyed too fast and too easily in quick succession I generally stop playing
I started with Street Fighter 4 online. I got my ass kicked. Never won anything. Never gave up. Now on the way to Gold in SF5.
Nice, I started to really learn with MvC3 because of how many combos you could make. Except I was good by the time I hit up online because I had so much fun in the training room.
One thing you should've added max, DONT GET ANGRY! When you get mad, you start playing clumsily. Smash brothers is a good example of this, and trust me, I got pretty pissed at this game from time to time, and I got bodied every time I got mad XD
lowrider6217 oh my fucking god this is true for Smash Bros in general. That's why i gave up playing that game seriously. From broken controllers to mild depression. That shit became too much for my mental state. I rather play other fighting games that's not as complicated as for say, Melee.
Considering I just finished the video!:
I don't take notes, I make them. At the end of a set, I think 'what's one thing he was ruining my day with? How can I best counter that?' And I move into the next one, keeping just that one thing in mind until either he changes strategy or I get better at the matchup. I focus mostly on learning one step at a time, instead of trying to undo his whole playstyle.
Oh, (not-so)Protip: If you're just learning a fighting game, stick with one specific character. Just do it. Just pick Chun-Li every game you play, every match, for a month. Pick nothing but Potemkin, only pick Spinal, just choose Akatsuki or whoever. Find one character, play them through practice, just do their moves over and over and over again until you can manage them without grievous error, and then go for casuals. Play this character, and only this character, for a month.
Oh, and don't pick Rashid if you're learning. He'll just make it harder for you to learn in the long run.
i have major anxiety when tryin to get good at fighting games to were i just quit all together...i have a hard time with commitments, but combine that with anxiety and im done, i just cant handle the pressure of being good at a game then fighting against real players, i can only play casual friendly matches really well...just when i get into a ranked match were it all matters i freeze up and unlearn everything i knew, i just couldnt handle it and punked out..dont know if that truely makes me a wimp for doing so
Trust me man you gotta take those L's to get better. You're gonna suck at first too but whenever you put the time in it will make all the more better for anything. I've probably lost over thousands of matches in Many different games. But whenever you have those amazing moments where you pull something like an awesome combo you were preparing yourself for to edge out a victory or where you win the stalemate where you and your opponents trade for hits trying to win an advantage is an amazing feeling it's like a rush whenever you get in the zone and work hard to edge out over difficult matches. Trust me take a break but never give it up
exactly my mindset man.... :/
this describes me so well lol
It happens to me but you just gotta keep playing until it goes away
all in time you will feel more comfortable just keep going
Most of the time I have to force myself into playing. I've been playing fighting games for a year or two maybe, and to this day I feel anxiety and fear before every match. There are days I'm so terrified I don't even play. After a match, specially when I win, my hands are shaking so much I must take a 10 minute break. But it always feels good when I don't chicken out and actually play the game. My heart might be racing, my whole body trembling, but I did it anyway. And in the end... well, it wasn't so hard, was it? And it's quite fun!
Card games, Figthing games, games in general, real life fighting, real life sports, everything takes practice, discipline and persistence, you can't get good at something without training or at least dedicating lots of hours(and I mean lots and lots) to it, that is life, life is grinding, but not grinding of level up, we are talking about monster hunter levels of grinding, where you mostly learn how to get better, not to level up.
What Max says is true; patience and persistence is the key to getting better at fighting games. I know for me I credit my older cousin with teaching me that lesson as a kid. He played Tekken 3 with me when I was a kid and he absolutely brutalized me . I practiced over and over again in arcade mode and I eventually beat him. The same thing happened a few years later with Soul Calibur II. He beat me, I practiced and eventually we were evenly matched. I've had the reverse of it too. My best friend was really bad at MKX at first but after a couple of months of playing together we're about as evenly matched as it gets.
I’ve always been a persistent bastard. I’m the youngest of 3 brothers, and I remember how for the longest time my oldest brother would body me in Chess. I ended up vowing that one day I would beat him, which is why I joined the Chess Club. I played dozens of people, learned new strategies, attended some tournaments, and learned from every loss (and there were a lot). I was like 10 when I made that goal, and 7 years later I finally managed to beat him. It was a long, tough journey, but I did it, and it felt glorious (way more when it took me 4 years to beat his Jigglypuff in SSBM).
I’ve mostly been playing KI lately, which I’ve had for not very long, and I lose. A lot. Yes, I’ll get salty and frustrated, but I learn from my mistakes, I try different stuff, I persist, just like when I played Chess. I reflect on my mistakes and ask myself "What did I do wrong? What should I have done more?" or "Why the hell do you keep cancelling HK Skeleport into LP Soul Sword? Stop that shit and run cancel normals." I can tell that I’ve gotten better, albeit slowly but surely, and I’m beginning to win a lot more frequently, though I still lose quite a bit. However, more of my losses now feel more close and evenly matched, leaving me with a “salted caramel” feeling: I’m a little salty that I lost, but the fight was f*cking sweet and fun as hell; unlike the fights where I get totally bodied, which while I learned, getting bodied is not fun. I smile, saying good game to whoever I was playing, sometimes give a thumbs up, and then they proceed to tea bag me, and I think "Why'd you have to ruin it?"
Instead of seeing my win/loss record as a showcase of my skill, I see it as a testament to how far I’ve gotten. So far, in KI online ranked I’ve got around 190-200 losses. But each one was a learning and strengthening experience. And within those losses, I managed to struggle to Gold Rank and accomplish 180-190 wins. I’ve got a 49% win rate. It’s not great by any means, but that fact I managed to get it up from a much lower rate to me is an accomplishment itself, and shows me that I’ve got ways to go.
I've been playing SF since '92 (SF2, CE, Turbo, Alpha1,2,3, X-Men CotA, XvsSF, SF3, 4, now 5, etc) and it wasn't until recently that I realized how little I know. It's not enough to know your moves and how to play, you need to know your opponent and find their weaknesses, but as Max said the most important thing is to know YOUR weaknesses and adapt to them. In that, I am still a beginner and It can be frustrating, but I love it. Brilliant! Thank you Max!
That old arcade scene from the 90s sure was brutal, lost a Hell of a lotta quarters learning to throw Hadokens and not just pray one flew out on accident. But I eventually got better at a lot of cool fighting games, SF, KOF, World Heroes, MK, Primal Rage, Fatal Fury etc. And made a lotta cool friends at the arcades in the process. I am guilty of trapping myself in the comfort zone every so often too, but I eventually get out of it playing online against people who usually kick my ass, especially after a few beers. 😂 But it's a lot of fun, even taking the lumps and bruises, and opens me up to refining my style and getting better. I completely understand where Max is coming from with this, great video, man. 👍
REAL TALK: Start with older, simpler fighting games. Play SF2: Hyper Fighting. There's very few characters and matchups to worry about, only a couple special moves per character to learn, and it still holds foundational basics to this day.
The best part about fighting games is that once you've learned the basics and understand how fighting games generally work, you can play decently in almost every fighting game. You just need to learn the individual system and mechanics to be good at it. I've been able to pick up fighters I've never played before and look like I have an idea how to play it because the fundamentals are still the same.
I've never been in a pressured/competitive environment like you've said Max, but when i picked up marvel I was terrible and hated the game for it... Idk why but i kept trying to give the game another chance for me to get good, again and again I'd fail at combos until about a year and a half and got a Dante bnb down... then i fell in love with marvel, and it died lol.
though forcing myself to git Gud at marvel has helped me become decent on most fighting games i come across
+Fractured Ghoul Typically learning the basics of one fighting game helps you with all fighting games since no matter what you play some of it's gonna carry over, be it special motions, button timings, etc.
+Matthew Ortiz yeah I've figured... I'm currently trying out UNIEL since it got released for PC
I know this is over 2 years old now, but this is great advice. Just last I was playing SFV (only have about 4 hours of gameplay, and I haven't really played a fighting game in years, not since SSFIV was new) and I got tired of the training sessions and went to play a casual match. I had a number of games against this person playing Cody, and he was kicking my ass. I embraced the grind, and I was getting closer and closer to beating him. On the 3rd or 4th game, I actually won a round, and it felt good just to know that I was progressing. Unfortunately, he moved on and I had to get to bed, but it was a good time, even though I lost 7/8 rounds and didn't win a game!
...yeah, I appreciate the advice, but I'm starting to get really depressed
I've loved fighting games ever since the last couple of years when I got hold of BBTAG. I realized that the game felt so good to play that I wanted to play more fighting games. I love the art style, I love the characters I main, and I love playing as them and winning, but... as things went on, I felt more... depressed...
I always had this dream of becoming the best Ridley/RubySeth/SoloSquig main I could be, and such a determination pushed me to look for any ways to become the absolute best and get my name out in the highlight reel. This is how the Dedley surname was created, and was the whole point of my existence: to grind and become the best.
Unfortunately, dreams and reality are two different things. I found myself becoming increasingly more pissed off at the games I loved, mainly because I go to locals weekly for around three months and wasted five bucks every one of those locals to test my skill; training beforehand with friendlies and getting matchup experience, and despite all that time and effort where it felt as if I was doing something, I get stomped. Again. Again. Again. Again. Again. Again. And Again.
Every loss that I took when I was booted out of losers... every time I'd hear the clutch screams of the crowd behind me... every time that my opponent becomes used to my playstyle and punishes me in the most disrespectful ways imaginable... it strikes a chord in me. Its basically a statement saying "Hey, I know you've been training for what felt like a whole slew of months, but I'm still better than you, scrub". Getting bodied in these ways and not understanding how anything works within the games I played or the characters that I fought only made my experience with them more infuriating, until I couldn't anymore. I developed a habit of tossing the controller away and storming out of locals. I've obtained a habit of self deprecating myself because its not the character or game's fault, its *mine*. I've cursed myself for what felt like months as the money keeps running out and I can't go to locals anymore. Eventually, it reached the boiling point within one of the worst experiences of my life: dropping out of college because of my lack of focus and commitment.
Chasing a dream like this... it lies in my heart, and yet its not healthy for me. Whenever I bring this up, most people say that I should stop playing fighting games. I did. For a while. I went into speed running and got a world record, finally my name was used for something. And yet... something was always missing. Whenever I see highlight reels of other better godlike players, my heart wants to become part of that crowd. My heart wants to be that powerful fighter to body the opponent with an original moveset and my own identity, but at the same time... it can't. They took years of experience... and I spent a year with my parents dealing with the heaviest depression of my life. I don't think I'll ever be good ever again... and at this point, looking at these people makes me want to burst into tears, knowing that I've failed and have no way of climbing my way up. I could try, but at this point when time flies by, is it really worth it? The answer is no...it isn't... its not productive, I spend too much time within one game just to try and become good at a character that fails consistently, and by the end of it every loss makes me want to slam my system against the wall. It's infuriating. Its depressing. And it crushes my soul that I can never be the next Sonicfox, Mango, or Justin Wong. I can't fight this mindset, its too far gone, and at this point suicide is a better objective to work for than becoming the best. Ending it all in one go holds a lot more reward than spending a counterproductive amount of years of neglect to strive for a dream that won't be worth it in the end.
My top 7 rules to getting into a fighting game. The higher the number, the more you've ascended past the novice (1-2), average players (who are mostly stuff on numbers 3-4), the elite (5-6) and 7 is the best of the best.
. *I have to get a basic understanding of the game's mechanics, the character (s) I wish to use and what their own innate strategies are/is.*
2. *I put in the time & effort into mastering the game's mechanics and the character (s) I'm using*.
3. *I have a basic understanding of how my main character (s) face-off against the rest of the cast of characters. This shows I have an understanding of each characters' flaws and can adapt on the switch*.
4. *I do my best to keep my emotions in check. I realize that irritation or anger can condition me to play recklessly, without a gameplan or predictably, which can lead to mistakes*.
5. *I must understand my habits, download my opponents habits and counter-adapt to my own so I can take control of the neutral (which is what a character wants to do when combos aren't currently opportune) to take the game to the highest possible level of getting reads, maximizing damage, breaking defenses, storing resources and generally outsmarting my opponents*.
6. *I understand what characters are top tier and what characters are bottom tier. This allows me to see what characters are dominating. That is useful because I know what opposing players will expect and what they won't expect. I can now incorporate my own habits into each character I use and come up with powerful tech and anti-tech for most characters I face-off against*.
7. *I have downloaded 90% of this game into my mind, what's next? Converting EVERY thing you do into max damage is the last step. You can know the game in and out, but if you don't convert every stray hit into at least big damage, you won't get in to your opponents head and force them to adapt*.
This is actually an inspiration to me...I've got a convention I'm going to in a few months and I wanna enter a tournament there, so I know what I'm to do now, thank you for inspiring me for this, just because I lose doesn't mean I'm bad, just need to improve.
You gotta have the determination of an anime main character to get good :3
Ashton Simmons
People die when they’re killed
That"s what i love about fighting games. You meet alot of people that are really good and you learn from them and you meet someone that's on the same skill level as you and you get better together
Used my fav MVC2 track on this video OH YEAH. Just all of the latter half of last year, I was learning to play on an arcade stick on the SFV Beta. Playing fighting games and learning is definitely something that's fun but difficult. I lose quite a bit but I do try to learn from my losses, I've had my scrublord moments too. Not pretty lol but I handle losses either well or bad depends if I open my eyes to see what I'm doing wrong & see what my opponent is doing. From long loss streaks in USF4 as a Cody main, up & down ranks with Rashid, my Nova/Cap/Dante team in UMVC3, and many more. I've become a bit more open about seeing things in match and stepping out of my comfort zone with my actions. Basically slowly breaking bad habits, being observant, and practice helped a lot.
I really wish I could pick one fighting game to settle in, because I'm really liking KOF 14 roster and character designs. (Even if the graphics aren't the best they aren't as bad as the first reveal). Played the demo the game is really fun. And it's 3 characters so I can have 3 mains and it's not as chaotic as other team games like UMVC3 and I can actually follow what's going on.
I also am trying to learn guilty gear and sfv just because they are such beautiful looking games, especially guilty gear revelator
Exactly, I've given up SF5 because imo its become very stale, I'm looking forward to KOF XIV and hopefully I won't have a lot of trouble learning it. That Max Mode makes quite a learning curve tbh.
+JACMIC23 it's not too hard,
I find it easier to use max mode when you connect your heavy kick or punch depending on your character and using that same butting again after canceling that normal with max mode, then just Ex special (again depending on the character) you can get a wall bounce. I've been finding it harder to do it with light attacks.
ONLY thing that I don't like about the game is how kyo looks....like come oooooon why does he look so young and skinny in the older games he looked buffer not sure what came into the designers minds when making kyo
+chris otero maybe it's the transition from 2d to 3D , but his kyo classic costume fixes him a little bit. But yeah not everything that goes 3D looks great I'm looking at you Banana Ken.
I was one of those kids constantly in the arcade rooms in the 90's back in harlem, mostly just watching because those kats were no joke and i knew i was gonna get torn up trying to compete.I still loved that atmosphere in there even though i did more watching than anything-all these people crowded around the cabinets with their quarters lined up above the start buttons and the bottom of the monitor.All of the loud "OOOHHHH!!!!!'s we'd make when somebody pulled off some crazy ass move or comeback on someone-those were some great times.It still amazes me how you guys play so great with those joysticks, but it probably just looks more difficult than what it really is.
You're inspiring me to actually try to get good at Skullgirls now Max.
Same it isn't that hard though compared to other games I've played (atleast combo wise) but I stopped because I want to learn KOF 14 because of the cool roster they had going on. I wish I was good at fighting games in general to play Skullgirls at the same time :( I also had no one to play Skullgirls with.
Omg that game was hard due to the controls. I'm use to guilty gear, kof, mvc2, and BlazBlue
+Naga itzu I am trying to get better at skullgirls, but I also want to play street fighter and guilty gear. I have ultra street fighter 4 on steam..but no one is online :(
+Naga itzu I am trying to get better at skullgirls, but I also want to play street fighter and guilty gear. I have ultra street fighter 4 on steam..but no one is online :(
Naga itzu The combos aren't the most difficult thing in the world for the most part but the meta is what makes it really intimidating. A lot of people can learn combos over time but if you can't figure out how to get to your damage while also avoiding it you'll never actually get good. It's the most difficult part of any competitive game.
I don't know what the KOF meta is like but in the case of Skullgirls a lot of the high level matches revolve around resets. So you have to get really good at reading the opponent and it can be damn hard to get out of these situations when you get hit. There's a Japanese player who runs a Squigly and Big Band team that puts you into an unblockable setup and converts it into a combo where he can go for a reset and combo you again. Not everybody is as good as this guy obviously but that's generally what I see people go for.
i don't have the mentality for fighting games but is still love them
yup
it's weird how that works. I don't like some fighting games but I still play them because the characters are so cool lol
Mr Chicos Tacos Yeah!
me too XD
dunno man, mentality means so many things, if u mean being able to show "knowledge", count frames or "being cool" on loses, i happen to know players dat have insane and consistent game, and don't even know wat a frame or wtf fgc is, they just played, and we had insane salty moments back in the day, to the point of punching walls.
PS: sorry long comment and bad english
It's great advice as usual. Nothing in life worth doing is super easy or free and fighting games are no exception. I'm learning this the hard way lately, since getting into this channel back in 2013 (the Killer Instinct hype was crazy for me) I've been slowly but surely learning how to play these games properly and I'd still call myself a pretty scrubby scrub. 3 years ! but , that's putting in only as much time as I feel like putting in (a few hours a month at best). I know the only way I'll get better is to keep on playing and practicing and get into a better mindset , my biggest challenge while I play these days is to keep emotion out of a match. During a match because I'm still scrubby enough that it's easy to fall back into mashing a button here and there without
purpose or getting mad at myself for losing to something that I should have... well done something about. You gotta crawl before you walk and you gotta walk before you can run and I've got a fair bit more crawling to do.
footsies is pretty universal if you have a good grasp of that its such a big headstart when learning a new game. There is obvious differences within games/series but core concepts can be applied in any fighting game
Needed that video, as someone who was begining to drop SFV because of constant losses, but wants to get better, this video is motivating. Thanks dood, shine on. o/
Yo, you want a sparring partner?
I gave up on SF5, the game has made me so freakin' angry. :/
+JACMIC23 Dude, just stick with it
+JACMIC23 I say this as someone who it frustrated the hell out of at first. And I've been playing fighting games for years
If you two want to jump into a Battle Lounge, I'm free right now.
IFC Yipes said it on his stream, "we lose to learn." and that's true. there's gonna be a time when you hit your plateau effect. your gonna get good for a moment till you reach your comfort zone like what Kenny was saying, but gotta break out of that cycle. maybe using a different strat, rethinking your plan of attack, frame data studying, whatever you gotta do to get you outta of your comfort zone. sometimes goin far and beyond helps make "almost winning" or "winning" a possible results
I absolutely loath losing, LOATH it, if a match is close and I had fun I'll take a loss with a smile but if someone completely bodys me I hate it, especially when it is crystal clear that they out rank me in skill, I'll usually leave that situation not because I want a win just because I want a better game, it doesn't even have to be a close game just a good one, it's just no fun to get wrecked lol Max thanks for everything, the videos, the streams, the advice, and the good times, you got me into competitive fighting games, I've been grinding it out on SF Alpha 3 on Fightcade since you did the SF legacy in January or February (I think?), I love playing competitively and watching you play competitively, keep up all the good work and as always, shine on.
I agree with fighting games I'm ok at best and I'm trying to get better.
Hey! Dont give up! There are annoying obstacles online like people can shit talk the fuck out of you and not care of the consequences. Don't give up!
I got good just by spending hours in practice mode
+Mr Chicos Tacos and your still not good
+waka waka waka you're*
I totally agree with you. In fact, I have learned more about fighting games watching your videos in the last 10 months than in my whole life playing against my older brother. Belive it or not: you have changed the way I play fighting games! Before, I just used to go for basic combos, specially in SFIV, but nowadays I can realize wich match is good for combos and wich one is good for poking, rush down, spacing etc... thank you Max, for all the things you have teach me. Greetings from BRAZIL !!
I remember when I got into SF 4 (when ultra came out), and everyone I came across online would woop my butt (because they had been playing for years), I lost about 95% of all my matches for months but I had a lot of fun learning how to play all these different people. I never quite stopped sucking, but I still had some fun.
This was awesome, Max. I stick to Practice mode so I can get all of my shit down. I got *really* good at GG back in the day because I didn't have anyone to play against. I just played the CPU on the hardest difficulty, which gave me character knowledge. The rest was just me filling in the blanks between what the character was capable of and what the player using that character might do. That learning pattern still sticks with me.
Shrugging off the L's is the toughest part for me, but it helps to know that the next match is a fresh space where you can improve and adapt to new situations.
Go full Anime and play UNIEL with us on Steam!
I get weird looks when I tell people I love losing. Even my real life friends don't get why. I love picking up a new fighting game, and only just recently got into them. That's the first thing you have to do in order to get good, is to lose, but pay attention why you're losing, don't get mad and hit buttons.
This is very insightful, gives even more stuff to look for in a loss.
Like you, I had to learn in arcades - now a days I just gather 3-5 friends and pick a house hold and best 2 out of 3 winner stays on session, I hit up the local tournament scenes when I have the time. Thanks dood, this video is awesome
it's almost too convenient that you put this vid up after i have a KI session with my cousin who was kicked my ass for 10 games straight before i got a win with hisako. this is reinforcing what i felt when i was playing him. the whole see what you can do vs you can do against your opponent. that feeling is amazing.
for fight games, it gets frustrating but encouraging to git gud' at the same time, kinda like training for martial arts, there is always someone better than you out there and you will always strive to be better. I have had days of rage and days of solace but in any of those, it's always good to analyze what you could do better and fine tune your mistakes, nothing's perfect but it helps.
Hmm... Not sure if I should follow the advice from this video, or these wise words that have followed me through my childhood:
"If somethings hard to do, then it's not worth doing."
"You tried your best, and you failed miserably. The lesson is: Never try."
- Homer Simpson
When I was growing up arcades weren't as big since home consoles were blowing up but I definitely can relate to the struggle of losing constantly before you can even understand a game let alone be good at it. I have only older sibling so losing to them was worse then losing at the arcade because I couldn't run home after losing. But eventually I got pretty good with tons of practice and tenacity.
I think when people ask for tips, they more want you to break down the basics of fighting games (like you're doing with Git Gud) and maybe break down the deeper stuff specific to some fighters. Even so, great video and I personally always loved this element of fighting games where the only way to get good was to persistently keep trying and improving.
Most important thing to focus on when learning a fighting game is fundamentals i.e. spacing/movement, punishment and defence. Then learn how to pressure which moves are + on block what mix ups do you have, do you have any command throws? When you're comfortable that you can punish well, you're spacing is good etc it's time to learn about more specific character/match up knowledge
it reminds me of when i encountered a player on for glory in smash who was absolutely amazing and beat me game after game. but when he finally left, i encountered someone who was much easier to beat, but the win wasnt satisfying at all. as i get better at fighting games in general, the more i WANT to lose. i can see it as a learning opportunity, and sometimes its hard to do that consistently, but in the right mindset, i can really enjoy myself. i recently picked up ggxrd rev 2 to prepare for dbfz and coming from smash, it was very different but it was so fun at the same time. a week later, today, im still addicted to it because of how fun it is. not only that, but experience from another fighting game actually helped me in smash as well.
ToonLink64 I always go on for glory because it's easy. I recommend you go on anthem ladders because the people there are way better-mcprol(cpu),
I often hesitate on hitting rematch or when there is no rematch button. I hate losing when you didn't even dealt a dent to the the player or a lasting impression. I feel like hitting the rematch means your insulting or wasting your opponents time on you. I often felt that way and how I came with my motto, "If you know your going to lose, at the very least make it a good show than a easy, boring, wrecking, win for your opponent to put yourself in shame."
Max...... How did I only just discover you in the year 2017? Like I feel like I missed soo much awesomeness! Fighting games are in my heart. Back in the day every day after school it was right to the Neighborhood Pizza shop to play Street Fighter 2. Your only one month younger than me so you like me get to enjoy that amazing Nastolgia that this genre brings. Kudos to us Dood!
Every time I go online for KI. I don't care about winning or losing. All I care is about understanding what my opponent is thinking and form a plan around it. If I lose I wonder if there was something I could have done differently. Every loss I have taken made me think faster and really understand how to "git gud". Thank you Max I'll take what you said and use for when I'm playing KI online.
Great video, a lot of the points you made are things that many people never think about and overlook, and many of them are just afraid to lose, which is stupid, but from my perspective, you never actually "lose" unless you didn't learn a single thing from the match. If you just sat there on autopilot and mindlessly threw out attacks and lost, and didn't make an effort to figure out your opponent and think about your strategy, then you kind of just wasted that match. That can sometimes be difficult for me as I'm trying to get better, because I have to constantly make a mental note to be observant of the opponent and figure out their patterns, I think a huge part of fighting games is breaking bad habits, and creating good ones. I also think an important part of getting better is also studying. Look at top players matches, especially those who use your character, and slowly go through the video figuring out the options they choose, I even take down notes from time to time. Also if possible, study your own matches, specifically one where you got rekt, and just go through and try to figure out your bad habits or what lead you to get hit and lose. I think that fighting games are one of the most rewarding experiences in gaming, they AREN'T easy, but when you succeed, it is truly an amazing feeling.
something I would love to see a real talk video about is one for those of us out there who really enjoy dead or just lesser known games but can't find a scene/ regular matches to play. For example, I am a Melty Blood/Jojo's player and god is it hard to find matches sometimes, same with some of the the other games I really like. Though I feel like that mentality of wanting to hit that rematch button learning your own and your opponents weaknesses are is even more important in games like these due to that these are going to be your only far and few between matches other than in tournament.
I'm 100% with you on that one Max, losing in fighting games, while frustrating, also makes me excited. Facing someone better than me allows me to identify my own weaknesses and break out of my comfort zone. Those few times I played against Terry Bogard in UMvC3 actually bumped up my skill level and reaction to situations pretty quickly, though I wound up never winning a game against him lol.
This might sound corny, but a friend of mine who I used to play with said something that stuck with me. The Ws and Ls shouldn't just mean Wins and Losses. But Worked and Learned. You may have lost, bit you hopefully learned something, and the wins are proof of what you learned, working.
I have an example when it comes to the "identifying your opponents weaknesses" bit.
When I was very new to Street Fighter (I had literally never played a fighting game before and got USF4 to see what it was like) I had been in training a bit and had learnt the controls, no special moves yet. I asked my sister if she'd like to play and I taught her the controls and got into a match. After a few matches her strategy turned out to be "One hand on the controller, don't move, only heavy attack". And, as boring of a strategy as it was, it destroyed me over and over.
But then I remembered that Hadokens existed, and I went to training to hone my skills to the point where I could do on again and again. I challenged her again, she did her strategy and I thought that if she could do one move over and over, so could I.
After our first match like that she was saltier than all of the earths oceans.
Whether it's an arcade, at a school/college with a console, or even with friends at home, the message Max (and Kenny in the comments) has is still true. Persistence and get out/do as much as possible. I love it when my opponent, myself, and anyone both learn and readjust/add to our movesets. Different styles and strategies are what I love about Fighting Games besides the countless hours learning. And those hours are worth it.
I lost to the same guy in 3rd strike yesterday 22 times. But you know what? I purposely played him knowing he was out of my league. I get better MUCH faster when I play high level opponents. It forces me to adapt and overcome my weaknesses and fears. I completely agree with you on this video Max: "You gotta lose a few before you win." LET'S GO!!!!!!
It took me a long time to get to a point where I was actually more concerned with getting better and not getting frustrated at trying to get that W. In the arcades, I would generally wait until someone would finish so I could try practicing my basic stuff against the computer. I took loses very very personal thinking that there was something wrong with me and it made me feel inferior.
Now, I really like the challenge of fighting someone much better than I, and seeing if I can improve during those sets. Most times like in KI, the person will leave after 2 or 3 matches, but I'll keep hitting rematch unless I am just dominating that person, then move on to fight someone of more skill than I.
Great video Max
Every word rings true to this day. I’m JUST NOW picking up Street fighter 5 and I’m ready for the punishment process of getting better! Thank you for the inspiration Max!!!
Thanks Max, I needed this. It sucks because I currently have such a crappy connection that all my matches are just me praying to the great Akuma in the sky that I don't have lag in this one match. I really haven't made much progress because fighting computers just aren't the same and damn near ended my fighting game career (I ain't no pro, chill). This vid really helps me stick it through and hopefully get a better connection to get some people experience in. Thanks again.
I get my ass whipped every single day, I feel like I don't learn anything, and I just get mad and end up playing a genre I'm good at. Fighting games are just too overwhelming to learn because literally everyone is better than I am and it's HORRIBLY frustrating.
Then, I watch one of your 3s videos or watch someone like Valle play Rashid and it makes me want to try again. If I were smart I would drop fighting games altogether and stick with what I know, being basically every other genre. However it seems I'm a masochist so I keep trying, knowing that after another 100 hours maybe I'll get a win. Maybe, but probably not.
I really enjoy your content, please don't stop making it.
ALL THE STUFF THIS GUY SAYS IS 1000% TRUE!
I main Ferra/Torr in MKXL and Ive had nights where I'd continuously go down 20+ games and would continue re-matching. And sure Ive had plenty of losses, butt Ive reached a level of understanding and experience only achieved through countless hours of simply playing against other people and their winning strategies. Butt you always push that rematch button. Never Give up.
Keep it real Max ^-^
You gotta be persistent, but you gotta realize when you're on tilt too. Sometimes you just need a break after all that too. Everybody gets salty about leaving from a set they got wrecked on from time to time and you just gotta walk away with that bad taste in your mouth. That's part of growing as a fighting game player though. It's good to know when to stop, but you need some inspiration to keep you from stopping forever too
Whenever I get the opportunity to play online, i usually get a pretty decent win/loss ratio, but when i do get the big loss streaks I personally try to ignore the fact that i lost the match and try to find humor in the match or find awe in how my opponent beat me. there are probably a lot of confused folks on xbox live because when i played killer instinct online i seemed like i didn't care about a win or loss i just wanted to see cool combos and ultras. Like you said Max every defeat is a learning experience.
max is the reason i still keep trying in mkx, umvc3, sf4, sfv, and killer instinct 2013. it doea get hard to loss a ton but it makes better practice than to just sit there in training mode for days and days when AI and human opponents play differently. thanks max for this real talk.
Real talk your one of the few people I can watch and enjoy playing . You seem very humble and really watching your videos makes me want to jump into more fighting games and commit a little more across the board. always looking forward to more man.
Like Max, i learning playing out Fighting Games in the Arcade, especially playing The King of Fighters '96 and Super Street Fighter II Turbo.
I've learned that in fighting games, 1. you have to play a lot (and deal with the loses) 2. you literally have to practice a lot in practice mode and 3. you have to learn from your mistakes.
I started recently with SFV and my goal was to get to Gold rank. Using those pointers I just mentioned, I managed to get. Sadly I have to admit, I didn't substain long that rank and now I'm back to grinding in Silver, but hey I reached my goal
something i find funny aboutt fighting games is the fact that your opponent is immediately in front of you,but for example if theres someone good on the other team of a cod game for you can still win ecause the team counts as a whole what surprises me abouts videos like these is the fact of simply saying its about playing against one other person doesnt seem to come up,plus the fact its not liek you can walk around a map and work out a strategy,you apply it,there and then.
Regarding huge strings of losses - sometimes you're just a level below your opponent - they're in the groove, you're not on point, etc. If I'm feeling like I can't be on the winning tempo, I play something quick to find out. If I'm loosing... I stay at home and read instead of playing poker or whatever. If I can bounce back, then I head out
Thanks max i was to worry about winning and been losing recently but now I'm going back to my goal playing for fun like how I started
A couple of tips for the new huge fighting games
Killer Instinct: Block (I never see people block, even in ranked) and don't constantly use Heavy linkers and auto doubles. Also don't use the same constant linkers and auto doubles since people will end up finding the patterns and constantly break you.
MKX: Spend a lot of time in training and figure out 3 or 4 long combos, Combo guides help a ton too. Also don't waste your X-Ray if there's little to no chance of you making it out of the match, then you're just wasting meter.
SFV: Special attacks aren't always necessary and always get V-Triggered
Most in General: Be safe. don't just throw yourself at them for 0 reason, only take a shot if you know you can make it in and out fine. Lastly, Don't fucking underestimate people with 10% health. Unless you've got like 100 - 90% health and they have like 10 - 1% health, then in that case just be careful and put a lot of pressure on.
I feel like another big thing is to have fun even when you lose. Try to find joy in the learning process and play with friends and others who are really good to get better. Also laugh at yourself and don't take each loss so seriously. I feel like doing that can really take a lot of the pressure off and help you focus better because then getting gud becomes a lot more like play than work.
I'm personally just starting to learn this myself. Sometimes it feels like the skill gap is so huge, you can never catch up but you just gotta push forward and go at your own pace.
This is something you'll see Max doing a lot, like in his recent Juri Modded video you hear him go "that's not safe? ok well I know that now." or just saying "good game man, good game..." when he loses with a close loss.
I'm currently playing SFV and a tiny bit of GGXRD. In SFV I lose a lot, like to a point where the highest rank I've got is super bronze and I can't stay in that rank for more than 3 matches. But I know after every loss, there's something I didn't do, whether it was establishing ground game or not getting the hit confirms, I *try* to work on it in the next match. But even so this advice from Max gave me more confidence, like I just need to keep pushing at it.
Good stuff Max! Ive been playing fighting games since sf2 back in the early 90's, i mean any and all fighting games i can get my hands on i play them. I consider myself pretty good at most of them in general but i remember when sf4 first came out for some reason i just couldnt get good. Heck i would lose so much that i stopped playing the game for a good while, i enjoyed the heck out of the game but became afraid to go online because i didnt like the feeling of losing, one day i just said the heck with it and just started to play for fun,learn from my mistakes,and not worry so much about winning and losing. Eventually i got pretty dang good, went from a 35% win percentage to a 81% win percentage. Its all about not giving up,staying persistent, and above all else just having fun with the game, after all thats what its for. The rest will then fall into place.
I have a buddy that I practice just about every game with, mostly on the anime side of things. No matter what the game is, it generally results in playing hundreds and hundreds of matches with an overall lose rate of like 95% on my part until I get better.
Most recently with Under Night In Birth and Guilty Gear Xrd, it's been the same, but every time I lose I see what I did and try to just react differently. Even if it doesn't result in winning, just recognize a situation from the previous game and try something else until finding what works.
Heck, I'm not even sure I've won over 20 rounds in about 200 fights (3 out of 5) in UNIB, but the most important thing to me is that the game itself is fun and that I know in the long haul, whatever I'm doing there is helping me to get used to the overall game and learn about the characters I'm trying to play, what works and what doesn't. The only time I get frustrated is when I know he's going easy, which is infuriating and unhelpful when it happens.
(Or when it lags, but that's unrelated.)
I've found that sometimes I just need to put the pad/stick down and do a lap around my apartment to think. For awhile I would jump back in without assessing and get bodied again. And again. Learning why I lost and applying it is undoubtedly the hardest thing in fighting games for me. Blood just runs hotter than any other genre.
Due to my mental state (I deal with both an anxiety disorder and depression), persistence in any competitive video game is at times impossible. I just get so worked up when I'm on a bad losing streak sometimes that I back out. I don't rage quit, I see my matches through (code of honor), but once the matches are done, I back out and play something less stressful just so I can decompress. Is that stunting my skill building? Yes, absolutely. But I've broken stuff and gotten legitimately sick because I've been so upset with video games. No amount of skill-building is worth getting physically sick over, or breaking something valuable to you or someone else. There does come a time where persistence needs to give way to reason; recognizing where that line is is invaluable, at least from my perspective.
You speak the truth Max. I remember when I first started playing Blazblue competitively and loving it. I was decent at the game ,and after playing hrs and hrs of it against players who would beat me over and over, it was very rewarding managing to win against those players and learning from my mistakes. Also, chatting with my opponents helped me out too, I had a friend who would give me tips on how I should play and he had a pretty damn good Tsubaki.
I'm glad the Real Talks are back! good advice...
Just this little throwaway comment at the end of the video is where it all is. "Do you take notes?"
What kind of notes do you take? What do you write down? What do you focus on observing? What kind of notes have you taken, Max?
i recently have been going through this. i think alot of us players who actually started to try to get better focus on the combos and not the content. it is so much more rewarding now that ive started to understand more than doing combos and learning how to be more patient and aware of the game at large. i never raged at playing a game until i started to learn sfv i broke my tv and had to buy a new one. i realized that i was blaming opponents of being cheap when all i had to do was learn how to shut that shit down. i still lose quite a bit but im steadily improving and trying to learn different characters to patch my weaknesses.
Every time i play a fighting game i always have my word document open for when i lose to put down what i did wrong and it helps stimulate my brain to focus on the match when i hit that rematch button and fix what I'm doing wrong it helps me a lot not only game play wise but also having fun with the game in general
I'm part of a SF group in Montreal since this February and I play in weekly tournaments and participate in monthly events. All of this is pay for entry and I am still looking for my first win at those events. But in the mean time, my skill level has greatly improved since I joined and the people their help me out in terms of match ups and character tips. Never would I have that level of info if I were playing by myself and never would I participate in the upcoming Canada Cup.
Where in mtl? I wanna join
God I remember jumping at online KI for the first time as aganos... the taunters, people sending "ur bad" messages, THE FREAKING SHADOW JAGO TEABAGGERS. But few were the times I didn't hit that rematch button and I can definitely say I did get better after the losing sessions.
Ive been so EXTREMELY demotivated to learn GG ac+R. This isnt my first fighting game at all but is my first anime air dasher. I tell you i have won 15 out of 1000 games. Im trying my BEST to grind and watch replays, take notes, identify what i did wrong. I havent won once in the past 3 weeks. This is the worst I have ever felt about learning (possibly in my whole life) and feel like im banging my head into a wall. I feel like i need a support group to deal with the emotional distress I go through.
I miss arcade gaming. Not the same anymore imo.
nah. just a waste of money.
I agree, playing on fightcade with anyone around the world for free is way better and i grow up with arcades.
it was full of assholes for me so i dont miss it
my arcade was barren so i never got a good experience
My dad told me about his arcade experience,to me it sounded like a bunch a of whiny white boys that can't handle losing
I've always been one of those guys who hit rematch, who tries again and again until I win. I've played a BUNCH of Smash, and I even joined my local competitive scene. Everything was fun at first, but then I ended up reaching that skill plateau, where it seemed like I wasn't improving but everyone around me was. I'd practice at home, only to go there and still lose, and when I would practice with friends online even if I ended up winning more than my opponent I'd leave the situation either upset that I didn't do better or apathetic. I never left a session feeling fulfilled, there was always something that messed with my head. It felt like I had been playing the game for the wrong reason. I guess the whole point of all of this rambling is that winning is important, but don't lose sight of what made the game fun in the first place. If you're just playing to win, not to have fun, then it'll just lead to a generally toxic mindset surrounding the game. I feel like when the end goal is victory then it just leads to expecting wins, which leads to appreciating them less and less. Winning is more than beating your opponent.
thank you for those Wise words Max. I got my ass kick a lot these days but, I am Learning from it. This video will help me get on my feet! Keep on the good work!
I don’t know if you’ll ever see this but ill put it out there. I get nervous when playing fighting games, it doesn’t matter if it’s online matches or playing with a guy next to me. Once I practice a combo or a setup I think about playing another person but the nervousness kicks in and it scares me away. I don’t know if others feel the same.
I can't play fighting games online. No one talks about the inputs never working. I have lost more to the fact of the controller not responding to my inputs, moves activating that I never entered, and practicing for hours only for it not to work. My blood pressure has gone up playing people online. Never had this issue with a Souls like game. It is the most frustrating and devastating feeling I have ever faced. And I sick of trying to achieve some arbitrary number rank. Winning 3/30 matches has been the worst feeling in the world for me. I have never been satisfied winning a match with anybody. My stress levels just keep rising.
Even though I didn't grow up in the arcade era, this is the reality of "git gud" Even to this day, I'm still learning to git gud. Makes me enjoy fighting games a lot more because I am able to put the time and effort into something like this.
I play SF since the beginning on the Snes and started now with BlazBlue CPE my first hours in the Game 25h Lab, 5h Online and i get beaten by a lot of ppl but i love it. i keep joining them because this is what makes me better and how i understand diffrent characters and setups how to block etc. Combos i can learn in the lab but expirience u get in real matches.
I can accept losing a lot in fighting games as part of the normal learning curve, and even have fun with the game while losing a bunch because I can typically see myself improving all the time; the part that always gives me trouble is applying that same persistence to other things in life, like learning to draw. I find it really hard to keep practicing drawing largely because I can draw for a couple hours and see no improvement over what I did yesterday.
one other point about that from Justin Wong who said in a documentary(and that helped me a lot in fighting game) that fighting games are about winning the game not flashing the opponent with supers and very difficult combos, if by doing a uppercut you get a hit confirm, why would you stop, keep doing that in the same situation and you will win......
Finally, this is the video that was waiting. You inspired me to continue training and become the best Street Fighter (3rd Strike) player in my city; Even the best in my country (México). I'm not saying the world because... you know... Daigo, Gootecks, Pikachuakuma, etc. Thanks Max.