EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra Should you Buy? Pricing and more
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- Опубликовано: 8 янв 2024
- Here you will find pricing and some information on install costs. What do you think? Will this type of battery system take over? #solar #ecoflow #offgrid
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Here you will find pricing and some information on install costs. What do you think? Will this type of battery system take over?
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I did a price comparison.
1 EcoFlow DPU + 3 Batteries (18kwh total) = $11,397
Other Brand 6k inverter + 3, 48v 100ah batteries (15kwh) = $5,997.76
That is a huge premium for the EcoFlow. Its hard to justify. If you wanted to compare what you could get for ~$11k, building it yourself would get you 35kwh for the same price, compared to 18khw from EcoFlow. Plus the EcoFlow weights a lot more.
What is the battery chemistry?
LFP
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Funny how people complain about items being given to reviewers and assume it should be paid for. However, without this process what would you be left with? Consumer Reports...? Take everything with a grain of salt, positive or negative. More data is better when you aren't going to test yourself. I appreciate the candid breakdown of how this product could be best utilized.
People think it’s free, well I’ll tell you right now nothing is free. And the amount of hours testing and giving feedback and more takes a lot of time. Especially if you give more data then just some who show it and say oh look. This is video 2 of 3 or 4.
Exactly this! Look at it as an infomercial from somebody who has to be at least sort of unbiased. Because they also review other products from other companies. this is a really great format to absorb information while you're trying to compare things as close to apples to apples as you can. I always appreciate these reviews esp realizing they take a lot of effort.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Always honest and include everything in to very thoughtful
Thank you 😀👍🏼
Wow…. Great video. The information in this video is vast. Very well done!
Thank you 👍🏼😀
Great video, gives some much needed information that’s not really covered elsewhere!
Thank you 😊
Caveat if you're using a generator inlet for extended periods with low solar input, you can only charge with 120V 1800W input. If you try 240V 3kW charging the AC outputs will be shut off. You'd need to either augment with another DC power source or plan your loads to average out to less than your AC input.
Straight forward honest review and easy to understand. That’s why you’re my go-to guy when it comes to this stuff! 🤠👍🇺🇸
Thanks Jeff. Hope all is well 😀👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Windy and wet here this morning! All is well, though!
I appreciate your approach to going over this product (and really all your content.) Big EF fan here, even if this isn’t for us at the moment, still really cool.
Thanks, this is the second video on this and I will have a 3rd later after i finish my testing. So far it really is doing pretty good.
Honesty, a rare commodity these days. Kudos to you sue.
Thank you.
The Smart Home Panel 2 is really nice, but those other options seem much more affordable even if they don't have the ability to switchover in the app.
great detail and first I have seen answering about eco flow dual fuel generator option , Thanks
Thank you 👍🏼😀
You’re welcome 👍🏼😀
Good explanation of prices and applications.
I see this as a perfect gas generator replacement for emergencies such as bad storms and hurricanes! It can power the fridge at night without any noise, plugs right into an existing generator transfer switch port, doesn’t require copious amounts of gas to be on hand and stored, and when the grid comes back up, your EV charger can plug right into it and recharge it fast.
EcoFlow is certainly playing the social media influencer game - there are definitely a few RUclipsrs that have gotten their hands on free units in exchange for videos. To Johnny's credit, he offers some of the most in-depth info. However, I have yet to learn how to do surge suppression to protect one of these expensive investments in the case of a power grid electrical strike. Their 3-year warranty only covers quality related defects - not lightning strikes.
Most systems have a hard time even with installed suppressors, if you get a good enough strike and it archs and bounces around plain and simple it’s gonna fry stuff.
Surge protectors seem to rarely work. My friends house got nailed a months ago and fried a ton of stuff and he has solar and surge protectors and it fried a lot of stuff. They just can’t guarantee it..🤷🏼♂️
I seen a bunch of people with them . Most likely freebees.
It's clear. I wished more people would look up ecoflow on the BBB you'd be surprised at what you find there. I was and wished I had checked PRIOR to spending thousands on the ecoflow ecosystem.
Waiting for the Will Prowse video.
@@motofunk1 surprised he wasn't one of the first. Lol
Excellent review, Johnny….probably the best I’ve seen. I planned to use the unit as a UPS but discovered that you cannot use it with a manual transfer switch. It cannot be charged via grid while discharging to the transfer switch due to n/g loop problem. My only option (other than the ridiculously expensive SHP 2) is to charge via the DC ports. What a disappointment!
There is a way around this. Using a AC to DV charger I am able to plug into low solar input…. So if power goes out it continues to run and charge.
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And also thank you so much. Appreciate it. 😀👍🏼👊🏼
This is an outstanding review! Can you elaborate on how to switch over from grid power to the DPU using a generator inlet box and an appropriate cable? Does that have to be done manually by first disconnecting the main panel somehow? I would like to use the DPU to go off-grid completely for the 4-hour peak rate period we have. The 6.144 kWh from a single battery is more than enough to give us unrestricted use within our home for this time period. Of course, we would also use it for backup in the event the grid is down.
First off thank you. Now if you want to use DPU as back up power really just think of it as a battery generator, or power station really. You hook it up the same way as a gas generator if just using it as a stand alone device. When ever you have a generator inlet box installed a disconnect must be added as well as to not back feed into the grid. This is simple by adding an interlock on the main panel. Both are simple for a electrician to install. Once installed, you turn off your main breaker slide the interlock switch. This allows you to flip your breakers to allow generator power to power up your panel which would be your ECOFLOW Delta pro ultra.
Or like my setup with a critical loads panel or some call it a transfer switch this has anywhere from 6-10 circuits to transfer power to what ever areas of the house I choose. And the disconnect and switch are in the same box. Simply flip from grid to generator or power station.
If you want full automation then the smart home panel 2 is needed.
Very good review Jon.
Correct Jon, the current EcoFlow Smart Generators will NOT charge the DPU via DC.
There are rumours of a new larger 8,000 watt EF smart generator which will charge 2 DPUs at same time but I haven’t seen anything official from EF yet.
Also, no details on method (i.e. charge via DC or AC) of connecting new EF SG to the DPUs but I suspect if it is a "smart" generator, EF will use the 5 x 8 connector to charge DPU via DC and communicate between DPU and SG for the auto on/off feature.
Yes people were expecting the SG to charge this but this is going to be a full new system for Ecoflow and that little smart Gen would have to run for a long time to charge anything more than one battery. And yes there are rumors of a SG 2….but those are just rumors 😉😁
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So many content creators are putting out these EcoFlow commercials all at the same time. EcoFlow must have spent a lot on marketing. Its hard to trust these videos, not a single negative thing is said.
I wouldn’t call these commercials especially since this is my second video, and I have hours and hours of testing. I will have a 3rd video when I have more data for long term to find problems. But honestly this was a build as they listened to several of us and what we wanted for a back up system that could do more. Is it perfect for everyone? No but it sure is a nice build with a lot of expandability. But it was also launch day so the rest of the testers are putting these out. Some people are more thorough than others.
@@johnnysweekends I hope I didnt offend you. I really like the style of your videos and I subscribed. I had just finished watching 3 of these EcoFlow videos before yours. No one was comparing them to non-EcoFlow products, so I assumed it was a restriction from EcoFlow. It seems like a solid product, but even at the heavily discounted launch price, its nearly 2x the cost of buying a few batteries and an inverter with the same capabilities.
No offense takin and everyone has their own opinion. The price for it is actually not because its plug and play. Not much time to setup and you go. So time is money essentially. Sure a pieced item is cheaper but you will need your own cables and mounts or racking and more. So those items add up and people never include those in “oh this is cheaper”. In the long run yes, but in a bundle price for those for 2 batteries and if you want SHP2 it’s pretty competitive. Is it right for everyone? Not at all but it really fills a big gap.
I was originally looking at a Powerwall and am now considering this Ultra option. I had always thought the automatic failover was because the entire main panel is smart enough to draw power from the battery packs in the case of a grid blackout.
I didn’t realize I had to pick and choose which breakers/rooms/outlets can be supported by the backup battery option! Does this apply to both the Ultra and Powerwall?
Thank you!
Tesla power wall will use a type of smart switch device. You can essentially have it power your whole panel, but doesn’t mean you can power your whole house. Think of it like a generator inlet box to the main panel. The generator is supplying power to all circuits but you still only get 50amps total output power or what ever the size of the generator is. Same with a power wall the more power you want the more batteries you need. I don’t remember exactly but I think one tesla power wall is 30-40 amps total output..🤔
The DPU uses the SHP2 to switch power from grid to circuits you choose for your house. Up to 12 circuits. Or you can use a double throw for a total of 24 but when power goes out you are trying to conserve and use what ya need or you will deplete you energy pretty quick and be back to a generator to top off the batteries. People think you dont need a generator but in these times you still do lol. But also depends where ya live and your set up.
So far DPU seems to be getting a great response and has a place. Enphase and Tesla are great but a little more spendy and are more a permanent mount. If you plan to stay in the house those could be good options. If you plan to move in 5yrs or less the DPU can go with you really easy.
If using the Delta Pro Ultra (DPU) with the generator inlet box option that you mentioned, without the Smart Home Panel 2 (SHP2), doesn’t that limit the DPU’s AC output to 7.2 kwh at 30 amps? So, we would lose the benefit of the 50 amp breaker with the SHP2 option right? Or am I missing something?
Great video. Thanks!
No matter what the DPU can only output 7200 watts. If you want more power you will need another DPU unit and battery. You can then use a parallel box and double output. I suggest not using shp2…just use a critical loads panel with maybe 12 circuits and load shed all day and charge a small EV. But you need a decent amount of solar.
Johnny is it possible to install the DP Ultra, have input of (10) 400w panels and the grid but only use the grid when the usage in the house exceeds the solar input or the batteries deplete to a specified level. I just want to drastically reduce the need for for the grid.
You will need SHP2 in order to load shed or utilize grid power. It will prioritize solar for charging and loads but then use grid when battery depletes or cannot provide enough power.
Hello, thank you for the review. I have the EF Delta Pro with the transfer switch. I was wondering what would be the limitations if I get another Delta Pro battery to equal 72kw, which is the same as the DP Ultra? I know the transfer switch is not the same as the Smart Home 2 box with the automatic switch over, and it would be a lot cheaper. I'm trying to figure out if I would miss out on anything if I just have 2 DPs connected with the Hub and connected to a Transfer box, instead on of the DPU/Smart Home box? Please share your thoughts. Thank you!
Two delta pros can get you the same 240 power as the DPU but your solar input is way way less. Plus the running temp of the DP is much higher as it doesn’t have X cooling, which this is really quiet. Many are happy with two delta pros and some extra batteries plus the pride of the DPs have really come down but you amount of room they take is also much more.
@@johnnysweekends oh thank you for your response. I didn't think about the solar input or the running temp being some additional factors. That's a good point. The DPU is great, but the price is a little steep, especially since my electrician states I would need to update my circuit box and breakers because it's about 40 or 50 years old, and the project will cost about $8k including adding the transfer box for the DP. Whew! It's a lot of money, but I will have to work towards adding the DPU along with the DP after I get the main project finished. Thanks again for your feedback!... Oh, What are your thoughts on the Jackery 2000 or the Oupes brand?
@hecarriedmethrough jackery used to be it… used to be. Now your paying for a lot and not getting nearly what you could with the options out there like a UGREEN power roam or Ecoflow or Bluetti or budget pecron models. Opus is ok. @jasoniod did a review on them if you want to check it out 👍🏼
Have you had a problem with delta pro ultra sold by amazon? The a/a:"Is ac pass through possible with 120v input? A:Use the c20 outlet for a bypass mode with a 120v input. There is nobypass mode for 240v input. AC output is turned off at this time."
Smart Home Panel 2 using a generator..... a manual interlock switch needs flipped to go from "Grid" power to "Generator" power. Is this the case for the battery banks too? A manual interlock switch needs to be flipped before using battery bank power to not backfeed the Grid power lines? Thanks
Incorrect - that panel is automated. It has relays to automatically switch off of the grid and disconnect to be safe. I'm not sure if it's per line side on the panel or individual circuits (Smart Home Panel 1 was individual circuit relays).
Great video Johnny, I am gonna buy you a coffee☕
Watch some will prowse videos if you buy all the components separately with just a small amount of assembly you will save a ton of money and have a bigger system
I have watched many…. And was hanging out with him this last weekend
But there is a market for those that have little knowledge and just want to plug and play and be done. Plus many systems you build are not automated with features.
Just adds another option 👍🏼😀
So did an embargo lift in the last couple days or what cause I've seen a dozen or more videos about this product in the last 2 days.
It was official launch day..👍🏼
Curious. If you already have solar. Can you charge these batteries while using them simultaneously?
Typically no because the existing solar is already going into the grid more than likely. But it depends on the system you have. If you have microinverters then no as it is hard to transition them over. If going into an older type all in one inverter then you could add a switch to swap where you want the power to go but can’t supply both at the same time.
the Smart Home Panel 2 has a slot labeled "generator", would it be possible to hook up a grid-tied solar array/inverter to that generator slot? if grid power goes down would the delta pro ultra enable the solar inverter to continue to produce power and keep the ultra charged?
It wouldn't automatically switch. There is a manual interlock that needs flipped to go from "Grid" power to "Generator" power. Best bet is to wire directly to the Ultras
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw ah thanks didn't see that
So a question or two , in my house I have 1 olde fuse box and for the attached in-law suit a breaker box . How would that work ? And well I also have a detached garage.
I can’t see this or any setup working in my situation.
I honestly cant answer but it would be installed after main panel where the main meter is. But I would consult an electrician.
Does this replace your normal home 100A or 200A breaker box?
No it does not. The main service panel stays and this goes after it as a sub panel
Hi how are you? do you think I could use the Ecoflow dual fuel smart generator to charge a Anker Solix F3800? I really like the smart generator
If it's not plugged in to an EcoFlow product that runs at the same voltage, it's just going to be a typical yet expensive small generator... so it could probably charge pretty much anything that plugs into AC. It definitely would not be able to charge in the more efficient DC. I would recommend saving your money and going for a different dual fuel generator. You will also have more outlets
And capabilities that way. You can actually find some really great options right here on this channel!
That would go good in the bunker
Oh yea!!
Love the naming scheme they have going. Pro ultra lol. Wonder what's next? Pro ultra mega
Yea not sure why the kept the delta name on this verses something different for this new line
lol reminds me of that Simpsons episode with the name Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Net
John, you mention "permitting" with the smart panel, and insinuated no permitting with the just the DPU by treating it like a generator. If the smart panel has an auto transfer switch, why is a permit required, since it's not a grid-tied system, intended to backfeed?
Technically any upgrade to your home over $500 needs a permit at least in CA and I assume many other states. You always want to check with your electrician and see if a permit will be required for the amount of work is needed for SHP2
Ladt mth i bought the delts that has 1060 wtts ,it ran my frig for 12 hrs and still had 43 % left.i like it so much i just bought the delta 2 max,it has x2 the power.w solar it chargded up in 4.5 hrs .if i had the money i would have bought the pro.for all u who think its a rip off,i can run my house over night and charge the system durning the day.u lose i dont
Haven't done the price comparison yet but wonder the ROI difference would be with EcoFlow vs Tesla Powerwall w/ solar?
Well you would have to get maybe the last two years of electric bills and add this year with 5% added to the annual since prices have gone up on everything.
Then get 3 quotes for your Tesla solar and batteries ….
Then if they offer the 20kw system then price the Ecoflow 20kw setup with SHP 2 installed m… then a separate contractor to install solar down to an inlet for DPU.
Then you can start to calculate ROI
I’ve seen this on the tubes and the biggest thing besides price is the fact that you must have internet connection to upgrade and operate this,my opinion is that it isn’t off grid if you want a long term solution to power your home! You also need a professional electrician to install the system to your breaker panel!
You dont always need the internet connection only to do an update if you want but will still work with out it. And yes like any big back up system an electrician is needed. But again just a critical loads panel can make it much simpler or a generator inlet box.
no internet needed donald to operate it.
Great video with good information. Can a system like this power a smaller EV? Exploring options or is it simpler to save electricity cost elsewhere? Was thinking charging a decent battery with solar then charging the EV with that battery.
Yes it can, but you’ll need more than one battery. I think 3 minimum. Then enough solar to charge it most every day. For short commutes this would be great. I’ll be playing with it soon..!!
Hi how are you? do you think I could use the Ecoflow dual fuel smart generator to charge a Anker F3800 solix?
Yes you can. The smart gen can be used to run or charge other items but only out of the single ac 120v outlet up to about 1800 watts. But no auto start or stop just you controlling it manually or with the app
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for your speedy reply
So you wouldn't recommend the EDPU for shifting your whole home power consumption to off-peak?
Sure you could do that. The new updates now let you set more variables for kWh cost, peak offset and more. So far it’s turning out to be pretty cool. The SHP2 is still a little buggy as they work out bugs and install new firmware which has been helping. I believe my discounts are still valid below.
How does this perform in extreme cold? My garage isn’t climate controlled. Will the batteries struggle to hold a charge?
How extreme? Big difference of 35F verses 0..The batteries do have heaters and can self heat but this will use a ilittle bit of power unless its really cold then they may run more often
I see that I'm three months behind. Could you please tell me what the launch time window might be?
This is already available. Mine has been running non stop since install using 4-6 circuits as I play around with stuff. I still may have a discount somewhere, but I would also stay away from home panel and just use it for load shedding and home back up. To other scenarios
I can't find the installation manuals for Eco Flow power panel?
I don’t think it’s listed yet since it just launched
Can you tell them to put an ATS sense switch option on the panel for Gen auto start?
Can your review this generator Pulsar 9500W Tri Fuel Gasoline Propane Natural Gas Portable Inverter Generator
Thanks for the video. Just can't justify the price in any situation. DIY systems or gas generators are much better value.
Yup it’s just another option or tool if you will..👍🏼
You could buy 20 kw of batteries and an all in one inverter for that price
Like you say control with an app from a phone! How long does the cell phones work in a grid down situation?
Cell phone towers have emergency back up power and generators to keep them working for EMS pretty much always
If I’m reading the specs correctly, once the cell service is set up, you could still manage the unit with Bluetooth, which doesn’t require internet (but has limited distance control range) or, the unit itself has manual controls that do not “require” the phone app, once the original set up is completed ( except if you want to go in and readjust settings later).
I think the information in this video is great. I was shocked when I heard you throw out a 2-3-4 year payback period reference though. I don't see any world where this unit can pay for itself in that short of a period of time.
You're going to need solar arrays, cabling, racking, etc. in addition to this. Even if you are able to run 18 kw per day through this battery every single day 365 days per year, that's still only $700 of electric savings per year. $4,500 for the unit, $1600 for the panel, and another $2,000 for solar. That doesn't even include install costs. You're talking over 10+ years payback time with extremely optimistic outlays.
It all depends how you use it, when you buy it and were you source you panels and more. 2 year yea that’s definitely a little off but hard to remember all exact details in every video. But if you sourced your panels cheap, lightly used and throw them on a small rack and if you are using the do im prime time rates where some kWh can be $.35-45 cents or more this is where it can pay back much quicker.
All depends when you buy it and how much solar and how you use it will determine payback
Depends where you live. Here in Puerto Rico we pay $3000+ a year in electricity. It wouldn't take long to pay for itself. Not even counting the tax rebates offered here in the USA, plus being able to get a partial write off if you work from home. I could probably get my money back in just 2 years.
I wanted one but the extra battery price was the killer. I went with the EG4 14 kw battery. and the EG4 6000xp . This is for a class a RV and I can mount it in a utility closet .2000 less than the ultra with extra battery. But I'll tell you I really wanted ultra just can't find the money..
That EG14k is a nice battery and the 6000xp. I was thinking the same and may try it. Only thing stopping me is the 308lb battery. It’s heavy, like very heavy and that doesn’t include the inverter and wiring so your 400+ lbs which is heavier than the old onan 5500 propane generator I had. I dont know if the walls would support it on mine. So kinda a no go for me.
@@johnnysweekends 14 Kw of battery is going to be heavy anyway you look at it.. The ultra would not fit in my closet so I was going to use it as a table ,that I would just roll out of the way. I also have on the bus Rv 2 diesel generators a 15 k and 7.5 K I am thinking about losing one .We shall see. I like the Idea of having a backup generator just don't like the extra 1000 lbs. Ha.
@CraigOlove true, I did the power kit because each battery was 85lbs each with heaters. So about 255 pounds for 15kw. And the DPU would be 330lbs for 18kw, so yea heavy anyway.
But yea to gens is a lot. I bet you could ditch one after all the adds and including solar. Each RV is a unique build in itself due to spacing…👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Yes every build is unique. I like the Idea of the EG4 6000xp being able to use any battery with it..That is a plus in my book. I'll be adding solar soon, so I'll be leaving one of the generators at the homestead ..Thanks for all your info ..I may see you on the road one day.. Safe wandering to you..
@CraigOlove yup possible, I’ll be In AZ next week…safe travels to you as well. 👍🏼
EcoFlow must have put out a lot of money to you guys to put out all of the favorable reviews on this system,honestly how many of us do you think have the money to spend on this system plus installation costs,and what is the longevity of this awesome system?
Just cause YOU can't afford a product doesn't mean advertising isn't a smart business move.
If they put out money then im still waiting. But being this is a LFP battery it will last over 10 years to 80% and still work unless you mis use it or fry it. And lots of people have money and lots dont. It’s all depending what you want or need.
@MokeAnit people buy 80K trucks all the time and dont even use them. But have a hard time spending $10k to make sure there house always has power 🤷🏼♂️
This 90kW... is it at 120 or 240 volts. Trying to wrap my mind around 375, or 750 amps. That requires stupid large wire and pipe to toss around. 600kcmil aluminum or 500kcmil copper in 4-inch pipe looks about right for 375A and parallel conductor for 750A.
It’s 7200 watts. 120 volt or 240 volt with one inverter.
@@johnnysweekends That makes way more sense. 60 amps is quite manageable and right in line with what I'd expect from a backup solution.
90kWH capacity
I always wonder if the Chinese power station people have gone past the people who really buy these for camping and the occasional down-grid scenario. If I was going to want that much power I would be looking into rack batteries and not one unit. I would buy a setup that would be made up of components and not one unit. One unit may malfunction and you have nothing. A component system may have one of its components fail and you can get another one from another country other than China.
It’s true buying a pieced unit can be better for some as you can really customize it. And maybe be a little cheaper in the beginning.
But a lot of people are getting away from wanting to build these. But it’s always a option
I'll absolutely give you that an individual component system is cheaper, but if you can't find the component, say during an "Event", to run your system how would it be any different than this system going down?
Hadn't thought about that😮 I also know that I I'm looking for this as a backup solution. Not as a full replacement of utilities kind of thing. So I think i'm an estate with my delta 2 max and smart generator Since I have forced air natural gas heating and a natural gas water heater (Which was my biggest concern to be able to run). I don't have to cook in my electric range and I can hang my laundry to dry. @@JohnSmith-wt3mw
There are much cheaper/half the price and just a easy or easier options available by other vendors.
That’s not exactly accurate for apples to apples and if including all smart features and more, plus the new items to come for this setup. Sure cheaper will always be around just like more expensive as well
What would you recommend?
I'd look at Bluetti or Anker X1 over this system any day.
Bluetti ahhh… Anker x1 maybe will see, prices are dropping everywhere and tons of products coming out
Eco flow must be behind on sales, you are the third tuber today fitting/reviewing this Pro Ultra
there are new "ULTRA" videos popping all over the place today.
more like an embargo probably ended today so all the video is made public today... no different to a new video card release or something
Today is the launch of this new item is why.
@@johnnysweekends clearly.
5k for a battery is just insane compared to a gas generator which will get you by though whatever it is .
It’s more than just that, you have to look at it as a system of components. Hybrid set up. Generators just run constantly even if a 100 watt load. Once you start to use these even if they are small, you start to see the benefits
Do you want to run your generator at night to keep your fridge running? Your neighbors will not appreciate it. I'm worried if power is out for days, everyone will know you have a generator and a bad guy may target your house.
My electricity bill was less than $1,000 a year so it would take almost 10 years to see any benefits from this and then it be outdated and have to be replaced.
Yup some things are not for everyone, like electric cars or trucks, it wont pull my 5th wheel. Well not very far. Someday soon.
Permits for what
Sub panel install. And if you mount a solar array, this will look different depending where you live.
holy shit that battery's bigger than my car
😂👍🏼
You would never pay that off by running a fridge. Call it what it is . A very expensive generator and panel. Build yourself a nice system as cheap as possible or buy a generator. But if you have money to burn and need the most expensive option . Sure.
And some people buy the stuff that is plug and play and ready to go and some buy it in pieces… all in what ya want 🤷🏼♂️
Nobody is buying this just to run a refrigerator...
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw that's about all it will run. I have 60 kwh battery and it is great in the summer but is off in the winter.
@frankz1125 huh? 7200watts @ 240!?!? It will run anything in my house. Granted not long with 6kw battery or all at once But throw in a few batteries and some solar to offset and I'll be good to go for any blackout. I already have 2 Delta Pro's and they can run everything but my stove...sont need that during a blackout
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw I know the math. It probably uses 100 w per hour just to be on. Be lucky if you get 30 min run time. I have 10 kw output on my system and its not needed. Also my system was very cheap since I built it myself. My power goes out for weeks at a time . Buy it if you think its a good deal. Lol
Pro: It's portable if you have a great back. Con: The ultra doesn't work with the rest of the ecosytem nor does ecoflow honor their warranty and their customer service is dismal at best. But I'm glad to see all the youtubers getting their free ultra..... to, ahem, TEST. The bonus for you is that you get the chinese "PRC" helping to manage your energy and having access to your internal network.
Well that's not true they certainly honor their warranty.
paid commercial
Not at all lol
@@N-M424 that's how embargos work
Today is launch day of this unit. Yes it was giving to me to test and make a video and give feedback back through hours of research and testing. My time isn’t free, plan and simple
EG4 is a better value.
All depends on what you need and who needs it. Eg4 is great stuff but can that person hook it all up or will they need to pay someone. Plus other small accessories no one mentions adds up. Different needs for different people and both have a place. EG4 is great but not really plug and play which is a big big market.
1500 plus all the breakers and moving circuits. you are insane.
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you said 1500 to install subpanel.
$1500 is a rough estimate to install the SHP2. Could be a little more or a little less depending how involved you make it. If you do a basic install it could be a $1000 with a couple circuits. If you do the fully loaded with all circuits and more than it could be $2500. Hence why you need to consult your electrician and get them on board with what you wanna do. If you do the basics you could DIY the rest later yourself. Plus people charge different rates through out the country so again rough estimate. Labor could be a lot different in Kansas verses CA or NY.
@@johnnysweekends so are they programming all the need feature on panel. seems you have to set it up on app and what amp or if is a 30 or 20 amp breaker as an example. Then sit down and teach you how to use it.
Jasonoid has more details than this
This is my second video… the first one has other details as well, and I had a small problem I had to work through with my unit that prevented further testing. But it’s working now, but with the holidays and trips to Florida and now Vegas the rest of the testing is delayed. But Jason’s info should be accurate.
@@johnnysweekends oh ok will check it out
Way overpriced for a lot of weight and short run time, hard pass.
Yes it is pricey but with China on your heals and Biden sabotaging America for China. It will be well worth it not hand pumping water. Too many signs out there, it woke me up.
@shane what would you suggest as an alternative?
I think you might not understand the purpose of this. As a backup generator, the cost is MUCH less than the other available products. Example: tesla power all is 10-12k MINIMUM and overs 13kwh capacity. This system with TWO batteries would cost NO MORE than $9k and every 6kwh on top is only an extra $3k. The system is FAR less expensive than competitors AND is transportable with you if you move houses. Doing the match, 25kwh TESLA POWERWALL would cost about $25k, this system would cost about $15k. If you moved ONCE in your lifetime, you owe TESLA $30k for the same system, this one is only $15k. Research matters.
@crhpjeff I'm currently comparing the Ecoflow DPU with the Generac 24 Kwh. The DPU has a lifespan of about 10 years, and the Generac lasts around 30. I have a Delta Max and my greatest issue is recharging it in emergency situations. Most blackouts occur during bad weather, which means cloud cover. So in that situation, solar is a poor charging option. I don't have to worry about charging a Generac. It works on my home's natural gas supply.
@RN4LBlackSunday Yes, very true young Jedi, the force is strong in you. Wise and perceptive, indeed.
Way over priced. You can get all in one Inverter and a server rack for much less
Example with components….Ill be waiting
@@johnnysweekends I'll bite, but you deleted my comment the last time I provided this info on the pinned comment.
(1) EG4 6000XP | 8000W PV Input | 6000W Output | 48V 120/240V Split Phase
(3) X EG4 LifePower4 Lithium Battery | 48V 100AH | Server Rack Battery (~15kwh)
(1) Server Rack
(*) all cables and connectors needed
= $6,622.79
(1) EcoFlow DPU
(3) Batteries (~18kwh)
= $11,397
If I wanted to match the EcoFlow price I could get 7 batteries or ~35kwh with the DIY system.
Thank you. I like when people actually put the components as I assume you meant mostly these items from eg4. While being great components and I agree it’s cheaper there is still the install factor and price for that if you can’t do it on your own. Now sure a lot of people will be able to do it, but there are also a lot of people who can’t, and no nothing of electronics and AC and DC power. Hence this type of option. They both have a place and I’m also a big fan of eg4 products.
Also I didn’t delete any comments but if there was any link provided or profanity or sometimes just weird comments RUclips with filter and delete them due to crazy amounts of spam.
I can adjust the filter but it’s slight. I don’t allow links anymore due to so much spam that started early this year
Thanks for the info always great for others to see 👍🏼
@@PopsGG I put in a similar spec'd EG4 system as you mention here, and you're correct on price. It should be pointed out though that when you normallize the battery size, the cost difference is 20% less.
Even so, these number are correct and a DIY build can be cheaper if you do it all yourself and buy certain components, but that DIY system will not have the auto features, and remote controllability, or portability of the DPU. For this reason I decided to purchase the starter kit with smart panel. It's for a different application where I have a vacation rental in the woods. Trees frequently knock out power for short periods of time and the place has well water, so If I have a guest staying and the power goes out, they can't use the bathroom, wash hands, keep food cold, etc. This EcoFlow DeltaPro Ultra is going to be perfect for these critical loads in this application. The guest will not need to do anything as far as flipping switches or hooking anything up, and I won't have to make an hour trip to get them on a generator.
@brianmills4891 this is where the smart functions do come in handy that you dont have with other systems. Again all in what you need
Waste of money, nice idea but much to expensive.
Where is the rv power kit vid ? @johnnysweekenda
This one ..? CHANGING OFF GRID! EcoFlow Power Kit Review and Install Too Easy!!!
ruclips.net/video/VmZljmbYx4c/видео.html
@@johnnysweekends 😊 Thanks