Lego Rewind Ep.25- Space Police
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Spoke to a designer at some point about the human-alien divide in SPIII. Apparently they tried introducing human baddies and alien cops, but the kids weren't having it in the playtest sessions.
Mahj I’ll have to touch upon that in the next episode. Thanks for the info.
@@NickonPlanetRipple This feels odd to say- but please don't trust randos on the internet like me. I can of course swear on my mothers eyeballs that I met this designer and had this conversation, but everyone can claim their uncle works at Nintendo.
@@NickonPlanetRipple I quickly looked up some concept sketches on the lego wiki and it seems, that there were some human bad guys planed too. Both looking like the stereotype Metalhead, but still, humans.
That's logical, after it would make more sense to children for the "good guys" to fight the "monsters" as opposed to the guys who look just like them.
Mahj Not bad, but still a shame.
Man I love how, due to mostly early technological limitations, the "villain faction" mini-figs all always have the soft warm smile. Like yeah they just raided civilian supply ship but awww look at them. Or you can imagine them having permanent shit-eating grin, whichever works.
That's why I love the generic Minifig smiley face
I feel similar about duplo police sets. They lock a criminal in the typical Lego open free for public punishment cells but everyone is just happy about it. Everything is awesome.
Or maybe they have that soulless look, always smiling, no other emotion, like puppets
Kind of pleasantly humanizing
Everyone is just vibing out
classic lego space lore is so underrated
My fave Lego lore tbh
I thought you said bth and got confused lol. But yeah I’d agree.
That’s harsh
"The [Blacktron] minifigs themselves weren't particularly evil-looking"
Words of someone who never saw them with the visor down.
I always thought that was so weird!! Something as simple as just lowering a visor could just change the whole personality of a character!! With their visors down, IMO, Blacktron always looked like a whole band of Darth Vaders or something!!
@@Goldenbane it dehumanizes them when you can't see their face. Like they're just a faceless drone amongst an army of faceless drones. This sort of concept is valid in real life too
H.R. Giger on creating the Xenomorph: I took the eyes away from the design because humans rely on sight and eye to body language. Eyes are said to be the windows to the soul, but what if come across something that has no eyes?
I kind of feel bad for blacktron fans. Bionicle got a reboot in 5 years, but Blacktron hasn't seen the light of day since the 90's, apart from references and sets with similar color choices.
On the bright side, the precious little cameos Blacktron gets in the Collectible Minifigures line implies their tech base has _significantly_ advanced.
From patchwork cyborgs to sentient infiltrator drones, to their recent bounty hunter... yep, maybe they're playing it smart and not falling on Space Police radar for a while now?
yo not gunna lie tho that bounty hunter minifigure from series 16(i dont really know) has everything that can make you believe they're a rogue blacktron member
The good thing is - it's not hard to make your own reboot - as black pieces are not hard to find at all!
@@davydigger708 perhaps, but Blacktron minifigs and trans neon yellow/green pieces don't grow on trees
As someone who loved Space Police III's short run, I mostly see it as a goofy romp. I mean it's basically "POLICE IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE!!!" Not something to take that seriously and would likely be a pitch for a Saturday morning cartoon, most likely from the 80s or 90s. Not much depth to it, but still enjoyable.
While there weren't any non-villain aliens in the sets for space police 3, the stop-motion animations on the site portrayed a few extraterrestrial citizens. I loved those shorts, they gave the setting a real sense of presence. Its just a shame we never got to see any of it in the actual playset. I'd have loved to see a couple of City-like models portraying the everyday life in space (or even a large exclusive in the style of the modular buildings)
i think the character i memorized the most was an alien banker.
but that would be really cool! Lego space city!
I was at the LEGO museum, Prague, and that feeling, seeing all sets that you told us about in real life... ice planet, Vikings, castle, trains... that feeling was majestic... you are one of those great channels that RUclips needs.
Damn, I wish I could see that in person. Something to add to the bucket list.
Y r u eating a buttfly
WTD Studios and it’s pretty good
I live in the Czech Republic and yeah it's an absolute beauty. Really want to go there again someday. So many great builds and sets. It'll make any lego fan cry tears of joy.
I remember picking from the bionicle part box and trying to find a hordika torso. The employee was so cool, he helped me with it and I was surprised to see he was also a bionicle fan
Hey look, an inverted Triforce
Haha he didn't like, triggered
@Tesla-Effect lorules triforce is dead
I really liked how you described the relationship between the different Classic Space themes as a "Cold War," I never thought about it that way but it makes sense. Definitely an interesting way to look at it.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They shall be of iron will and steely muscle, no disease may blight them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They shall have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe may best them. They are my bulwark against Terror. They are the defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines. And they shall know no fear"
I dunno felt relevant with the whole "humanity conquering the entire galaxy" thing
Lego did release a minifigure at one point that kinda felt like a Space Marine.
When he said "humanity conquering space" 40k was the first thing that sprang to my mind
I always took wave 3 as more being like MiB. Things all look more traditional cause that's the force still home protecting Earth, which would also make a little more sense on why it would be all humans. Sort of a prequel.
I won't be suprised if LEGO releases Space Police under LEGO City line, since we had Swamp, Moutain and Sky Police...
One Maker Studios might be considered military now that space force is a thing.
I was reminded of the sky police skit from the Simpsons, thanks for the laugh.
@@masonjones7777
Considering we have a Clancy Wiggum - sorry, _Wiggins_ - minifigure, I wonder why nobody's tried rebuilding that scene in LEGO?
Maybey lego space city like everything that Lego city has but Spacey
All those pre1989 figs smile all the time no matter what. It took some real pushing to finally get faces with expressions. Space Police 3 was my son’s favorite when he started really getting into LEGO. My favorite character was Brick Daddy. You are right - it’s disappointing that the tens to always make aliens the bad guys
Brick Daddy sounds like a Rapper.
HASEnoncorperated and looks like a pimp.
@@RAFMnBgaming One of Squidman's nicknames during the SP III animations was "P-Squidy." Maybe they got into a few rap battles?
BRICKTSAR!!!!!!!!!!
@@brayden141 Team Brickstar!!
Something I've always liked in sci-fi and space themed entertainment (Movies, shows, books, games etc.) is getting a sort of feel of the world they live in without being directly told. I think civilian aliens would be an awesome addition and opens up a ton of MOC potential! I personally think it would be a welcome change to do less ships and more structures like buildings, bases, ruins, landmarks, stuff that's different from a police station.
That sounds like a cool theme! Maybe it would be based around a huge space station, were humans and aliens from all over the milky way live together... decently... Each race would have a different ascetic, but I would have the general look be similar to No Man's Sky. Colorful, some what chunky, and the aliens would have wild designs (maybe have some be brick built, or a space spider...)
@@polaris_draws What I would love to see is multiply time setting. It doesn't need time travel but what if there was set build on progress as whole. Let's follow for example "Life on Mars" footsteps. Stage 1 Two civilisations encounter each other Stage 2 both factions unite to achive specific goal and Stage 3 divide... however it doesn't mean war or anything. Times have changed and new factions were born and continue existance thanks to knowlage they got thanks to working together. Some Humans and aliens follow one path and rest the other.
@@38procentkrytyk So each wave of sets would be a different point in time? Wave 1 would be us meeting the aliens, wave 2 would be us building the station, and wave 3 could be the satiation completed with other aliens coming to to live on it?
Am I understanding you correctly? Cause that's a cool idea!
@@polaris_draws Yes. That's basic concept but again this is Lego! You can put something from yourself. Although I was thinking more like 1) Aliens and humans arrive on alien planet which is alien for both of factions 2) Everybody together builds up base and vehicles 3) After mission is done everyone has to find new goal in their life so they made new factions and leave this place or stay there. What I would love to see is difference between wave two and three. In first sets it would be basicly like traditional lego set with faction vehicle or whatever but in wave two sets need somethins like frankenstain monster estetic as to show this is something new for everybody and finally in third wave new sets are build on the same technology but perfected like it was most obvious thing in the world.
@@38procentkrytyk You mentioned that this would be the two species uniting for a common goal: What would you have that be?
As some one who grew up on LEGO Star Wars for the most part, looking at classic LEGO stuff you decided to take a look at in your series is just so cool. The creativity and possible lore that could be gleamed from all the different original sub themes, despite there simplicity I’d breath taking. The closest thing I experienced to classic space was space police 3, and the fact stuff like that and power miners have been forgotten you LEGO makes me sad.
I hope Lego makes another original space theme soon
Don’t count on it. Because no matter how much fans may want it, it would have to compete with LEGO Star Wars. I don’t think LEGO would want to have either theme cannibalize each other.
Lego has had plenty of original space themes since Lego Star Wars began. (Space Police III, Alien Conquest, Mars Mission, Galaxy Squad, etc.)
Well I wouldn’t really count alien conquest, galaxy squad, and mars mission in the same category classic LEGO space
I was just pointing out that there have been many themes set in space that have coexisted with Star Wars.
I think the real reason that we haven’t something like classic space is that conflict and violence sell toys, and Lego’s model for their lines used back in the day, where themes would run continuously for a long time with new factions being introduced over the years, has been replaced with themes with more story that last 1-3 years and are then replaced (with the obvious exception of things like City).
1:18 But if this Lego theme predates The Legend of Zelda (or at least the first depiction of the Triforce as we see it today), then that means the Triforce is actually an upside down Blacktron symbol.
Here we go boys, space police. Ive been excited for the past couple hours~
Im torn about space police 3.i like the use of aliens instead of just humans like older space lines. But theyre all enemies... which annoys me. Id still love space police 4; it could possibly have some aliens on the lawful, or even civilian sides (maybe only one or two alien races as to keep them kinda evenly distributed and not have the "this generic unit is only in the high end sets" problem), maybe an even villain distribution too. It could be done.
I kinda like how its all smaller criminals, though. It makes it feel more like police and less like a war.
I never really got any space police sets though. Wave 3 is the only onr that came out in my life, and at the time i was more focused on bionicle, power miners, and exo force
Some really out there alien cops wouldve been really nice
I'm doing my part.
7:49 I can work with that on Brick Theory. I've been aiming to make a timeline for space, town And castle and I can see that happen over time
All the old Space themes, god how I love them!
Also, I absolutely agree, that the thing with the Aliens in SP3 seems really odd.
There are also some references to the old Space themes in SP3. In the "5981- Raid VPR" set, the alien has a "Blacktron 2" suit. I also heard somewhere, that the yellow and black accents in the set "5985 - Space Police Central" are in fact references to the classic space line, not sure if that's true though.
I noticed it eons ago. ^_^
the worst part of blacktron not coming back with space police for sp3 was the fact one of the aliens had a blacktron logo on their torso, the one in 5981, raid vpr.
Fun Fact: the symbol the Triforce is based off of is the insignia for the Hojo Samurai Clan.
Thank you for the fact
I hope we get another space police line again someday. They literally made “sky police” in the more realistic City line, so space police doesn’t seem like that much of a stretch.
I hope with creator they do more scifi space things, that would be awesome, or maybe dedicate a new line and have rival factions fighting for control of older tech created in the space police and blacktron days
Wow, You produce these videos like a factory. I am impressed! Brings back all the nostalgia.
Literally any symbol: [has a triangle]
Zelda fans: TRI FOOOORRRRCE!!!!
Conspiracy theorists: ILLUMINAAAATIIIII
I just found your channel yesterday and binge watched all these rewind vids I really love them!
there was one criminal in space police III that work for Blacktron. he the green one at 8:13. but yeah I want the older space themes to return.
This theme is pure nostalgia for me
For years I've been oblivious to everything Lego did from after the mid-80's until my kid finally got old enough for normal Lego's in the past year or so. I did not know about all these old lines until watching these videos and my jaw just drops every time. I really wish they'd straight up reissue some (or several) of these old lines. There's really no reason they shouldn't.
Didn’t have many of these sets but they were so cool to look at in those great mini catalogs!
Dude, Most cosmic!
I never noticed how nice the space police 3 builds are. It came out in a time when I couldn't really pay attention to LEGO, so It must have flown under my radar.
The 3rd wave of space police was one of my first Lego!
My favorite theme's have always been the classic space ones, and they definitely still are. They just have so much potential.
Excellent video again, Nick! I love Space Police, so it's fantastic to see more detail behind it. Never quite understood how people hated them ;)
HI Dalek!
These are coming out at the speed of light!!!
Space police 2K was really cool and fun. I'm kinda sad it was too expensive for me at the time
"Space police"
In space nobody can hear you commit crimes
Lego's Space and Castle lines were my favorites when I was a kid in the '80s. I loved Blacktron and Ice Planet. My younger brother was all about Spyrius and Insectoids.
If you really want Space Police III to have alien police and human bad guys, just do what we did and swap some of their heads.
Actually I have a space police 3 set where the alien has a blacktron logo on his outfit
I forgot what the set was called, I'll say what it is when I look it up later
My favourite theme
God I'd adore getting Blacktron 3/Space Police 4. In getting back into Lego over the past few years, collecting sets from the second wave Blacktron sets have been some of my favorite, they just ooze character IMO, and kinda like you said, the Blacktron 1 sets even have them beat in originality in a lot of ways.
I think overall I'd just like to see a return to form with whatever next Space theme Lego gives us. Maybe even a futuristic City spin-off that would allow for a civilian/exploration take on Space rather than an exclusively conflict based theme, I think that could potentially sell really well.
Alternatively, if the next Space theme were to be conflict centered, I'd like to see more morally ambiguous factions with no real good guys or bad guys. Think kinda like Warhammer 40K, but more mild.
It’s kinda disappointing that we will probably not see another non-conflict-based fantasy space theme anytime soon, or even a series with multiple human factions. Lego really moved in the direction of a conflict between humans vs. something else with a lot of their more modern original themes (not just space).
I didn't grow up with Blacktron or Space Police 1-2, as I was born in 2004, I would like to see another Blacktron for I could see how it can be
I am so glad I stumbled into this series and your channel. Seeing these old sets is such a nostalgia trip, man. I wish lego would just re-issue their old themes. ICE PLANET and Rock Raiders I would blow all my money on
I like how you had two similar looking space craft in both Futuron and Blacktron II, though they functioned a little differently. Definitely gave the vibe of Corporate espionage to Blacktron II.
And, what's REALLY interesting to me is that when they released a mini figure collection with Both M-Tron and Blacktron, they included figures from BOTH Blacktron themes, as well as a lone Space Police 1st Gen in the group. It makes me theorize that you were getting to see the two faces of Blacktron. One was their covert ops arm with the TriForce symbol and in all black, and the other was the Public Face of Blacktron, offering their services to anyone willing to pay. This would include good manufactured from stolen designs.
I was waiting for this episode for a long time and you delivered man, good job.
I grew up with Space Police III. Really liked the Alien Designs and vehicles. I owned a good chunk of the sets, but nothing compared to what my Power Miners collection was.
The older Space Police and Blacktron sets seem interesting. Aught to pick them up sometime.
Great video! I've been rebuilding my old LEGO Space sets and collecting a few along the way since late January. I've recently completed the Blacktron: Future Generation (the 1990's run) line, and built the Super Vehicle/Model. The LEGO Space series of the 1990's are my favorite LEGO sets of all time! And that Space Police commercial at the end was a great touch; so many memories!
That robot dog set from space police three is probably the best small/tiny set LEGO has ever made.
im sure some people have already said this, but sp3 isn't without a rival faction, nearly all of the baddies in the line work for the gangster-esque villain from the limo set. and are known as the black hole gang. also, atleast one of them, from the set with the purple tow-truck style vehicle, is allied with blacktron, featuring a combination of the blacktron 1 and 2 uniforms.
Lego recently released an updated space police 1 minifig as a collectable minifig, so I came back to watch this again
First of all, I love your videos. They go pretty in-depth, and they are fun to watch. I doubt I will ever get tired of your voice.
I absolutely LOVE the looks of Space Police III and Blacktron II
I really hope I can get some of those old sets one day
Man those mocs are awesome and heck the Space theme is still popular today and even if I ever wanted a set or create my own Lego Space Police moc.
Sweet I really love these themes and learning more about them I wasn’t around for some of these themes because well I was born in 2002 but I did have the space police remake but not the original. It’s really interesting to learn more about differences that lego had back then and now. Keep it up i love this content.
These videos are the reasons why i got into lego again. So nothing than good wishes for you
Notification squad! Love these videos even though I don't play with legos anymore. It's always a treat when you upload and it's good to walk down memory lane.
I still have my insectoids and ufo, and way too many g1 bionicles. I've always loved classic space. The post 2000 space themes we've gotten lack the charm of the original lego system space themes. Your content is extremely good for the more nerdy types like me. I always stop what I'm doing to watch these. (Thanks for the heart, I rarely comment on videos.)
Sweet I like how you are going into more in depth into the the specific themes
there wasn't black tron properly in space police iii but the character "rench" does have their logo on the torso and also the overall design of it is a reference to black tron 1
If I remember right he was a Blacktron agent who was hired for a mission in Futuron at the time
Lego 6886 is my only childhood survivor. I absolutely loved the Space Police 1 and M:Tron sets.
There was a certain charm about the space sets from the 90s due to their exciting color schemes and the simplicity of the builds. The ships weren't as stream lined as the modern space or star wars sets but they still just looked cool.
Space Police 3 was the best generation in my opinion. We really, really REALLY need it back!!!
Another classical lego rewind from Nick the great
The MOCs these people come up with have blown me away time and time again, and I'm interested to see what others have whipped up
Watching these videos takes me WAAAAY back to when I was a little Legomaniac. It took me a moment, but I realized I had the set 6933 shown briefly at 3:37. Holy crap, I thought that set was balls-to-the-wall awesome to build!
you rock, man. Keep up the amazing videos! You make me a kid again.
Man, I looove the intro sound, it reminds me when I used to play with tve Playstation 2...
All those old space themes are a really weird memory, being born in 2001, I only used my dad's old space police wich had a long, hard life (almost half of the set was broken/lost) but still managed to build some small ones.
Thanks for all those videos, just don't mess with society.
I just broke out and cleaned up my old Galactic Peace Keeper ship today. One of the best presents I got from my Grandma back in that era of toys.
As for Blacktron II Mocks - I used to have that Futuron Pod robot thing: Cosmic Pursuer, I think it's called. With some bits from the different Marvel battle suits, and that Creator Shuttle 3-in-1 set, I was able to remake most of it in a sleeker, more functional form. Now I just need a classic dome for it. I actually want a Neon Trans Green one so that I can have a Blacktron II 'copy cat' to play around in for some of the spares I picked up, like that new MiniFigure from the 2024 collection. Even tempted to do one in Red for M-Tron.
I love space! First Blacktron and Space Police were the best for me :)
Just found this playlist as I am currently on a LEGO nostalgia trip...such a quality work. Love it. Next time you do space, hope you do Spyrius, Exploriens, or Unitron (and hopefully all of them eventually!)
Oh, I have something special planned for those in season 3.
Had no idea as a kid blacktron was evil. Also absolutely loved the neon green glass parts
Honestly, it would be nice to see space themes going simultaneously and build on common lore like back these from the 90s but this time including aliens to each faction, maybe with like some factions having some animosities towards specific alien species cuz of a harsh past, but not such definitive humans vs aliens scenario, and fact other factions team up with this species pumps up their rivalry, just a concept that i think would work really well if LEGO decided to try
This video just brings me back, spacepolice 3 was one of my favourate themes as a child (man id love a space police 4 especialy with some alien police)
I guess I never really looked further into the different incantations on the same themes, I had heard there was a space police 1, 2, and maybe even a 3, but never cared to see which was which. Turns out I grew up with the red headed step child 2. But I have to admit 1 looks the best, same with blacktron. Seems Lego is finally coming around on their old themes what with 2 castles last year, blacksmith, black forest, 2 pirate ships, and a blacktron thing coming up. Keep em coming Lego!
Yet another great video! Keep it up Nick.
I remember the original blacktron, space police 2 and m-tron back when I was younger. Definitely some of my favourite memories or lego growing up
Started to watch this series thanks to BrickTsar and his cameo appearances. Such an interesting format and something new to the Lego RUclips scene which is filled with just reviews of popular sets. Thanks to this series I actually built one Ice Planet 2002 set which I have had for years but never even thought about assembling it. Really waiting for new episodes!
In the meantime, there are plenty of others to binge.
@@NickonPlanetRipple That's what I've been doing lately. 😁
another amazing episode. imagine this now a days. the possibilitys. its amazing to think what we could get. maybe with some story stuff behind it like a tv show how they do other themes. could be good.
I’m glad you talked about this. I didn’t grow up during this era but I wish that I did these sets look fantastic I wish I had them.
After pirates, space police/blacktron is lego to me. Such a great video!!!
Once again Nick, another great video!
Loved this line! ❤️ so much nostalgia!
You know, there was *one* Blacktron figure in one SP3 set - one of the Aliens was wearing the uniform with the logo. He may have been in only one set, but that set *did* show Blacktron clash with the space police again for the first time in over a decade.
Awesome video Nick! I have the Galactic Mediator, rebel hunter and Galactic chief, and some blacktron 2 sets. Also, the lime green alien from sp3 is a blacktron, same as cyborg from lego minifigures 3 and evil mech from minifigures 11.
Maybe space police 3 is a prequel and the first part in the space timeline. This could explain the more normal look designs and the lack of aliens in the space police
Maybe the Space Police looked more terrestrial when they came back and Blacktron wasn't around because it is a prequel series. Maybe the Space Police were actually conquering aliens and Blacktron was a resistance cell that appeared to fight that tyranny later lol
wow never thought about Space Police III being Fascist, that makes the line more Dystopian and likely what Humans would do in the event we encounter other worldly life, Humans are Historically Imperialistic. I just found you but the gorilla documentary style of your uploads makes me want for this style of content inter-spliced with blurbs of interviews with AFOL's my age who were the intended age range when Futuron, Blacktron and Space Police I debuted! I know I have many fond memories about the transition from what we now call classic space to the trifecta of Space seen here. If I knew how to edit I would try to create videos like that! Heck #Bricktsar would be a perfect candidate for the series as an interviewee especially because he was basically already an AFOL OG when these themes hit the market!!! great stuff man keep it up and thanks for making me feel old by telling us you were born in 1991!
6:44 admittedly there is Blacktron in the theme...in one minifigure from the Raid VPR set. Yup an alien on foot sporting Blacktron gear but underdeveloped. Likewise with another alien referencing Insectoids.
I had 2 small space police 2 sets with a bit of a tragic story behind them, one of my mom friends got them as Christmas gift for her son, sadly he & his dad passed away in a accident 3 days before Christmas. Being 7 at the time, I did not understand the ramifications, I was just happy to get his Lego...
There was a reference to blacktron in the Raid VPR set 8:15. I had that set and the space crook that came in that set, called Rench. His torso was a remade version of blacktron 1’s torso with the blacktron 2 logo. There were also a few references in the LEGO minifigures series. The space villain from series 3 had the blacktron 2 logo on his torso. The chest armor piece from the “evil mech” minifigure had the blacktron 1 logo. (Inverted triforce). Sorry i wanted to mention these because space police 3 was one of my favorite themes back when I was a kid. And I’ve been a fan of blacktron since I discovered it years ago.
I loved the separate lines the sets used to have. I grew up in the 90s, so I had UFO, Aquazone, etc., but even with aqua zone if had the good guy aquanaughts and bad guy aquasharks.
I really love this sonic music you use in your videos
This rewind was “out of this world”...
I like to think of Space Police III as a prequel for the other themes, that would be why the vehicles are like today's police cars before Blacktron and other themes
Same
I wonder if someone has made a fan project based on that idea? A space police 4 that had a story focused on an expanding human race, and how we interacted with alien cultures? That would be interesting... But I don't think LEGO would touch it with a 10-foot pole, and if they did they would have to be very careful...
Oh man, that would be so cool.
@@RAFMnBgaming Thanks Man!
Blacktron inclusion was an excellent surprise. Awesome video as always!
I got the Futron Monorail for Christmas one year, and I normally didn't get big sets... Always wanted the bigger Blacktron, M-Tron, and Space Police ships, but still never got them to this day!
5:42
Ive been obsessed with this design ever since, Me and my bro used too modify it and everything
6:15 Alway Will Love that Colored Canopy Design !