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@@jameskelly2145 be carefull, watch demolition ranch. One literally just blew up In his hands, on the fourth magazine, fresh out on the box, seriously, call them and voice your concern. They take 6 to 9 months to build. It is not to late for you to contact them and make sure they fix the problem this weapon system has.
If you're 62 now and you wanted one at 16 for $495, then that price was around '74 or so. There's been ~475% inflation since then, so the $495 price tag would be around $2900 today.
I bought my Auto Mag in 1982. Believe it or not, it was my every day carry, in a Bianchi shoulder holster. I was 22 and the weight didn't bother me. It came with a set of dies and that got me started down the road of reloading. It broke beyond repair in 1984. The barrel lugs broke and so did the bolt locking lugs. Hope the new ones are stronger.
Fantastic. For you personally, how was it as a carry gun (looking back in retrospect)? I'm in no place to afford one now but I'd like to order one down the road for the same purpose, albeit in a custom leg holster.
That brings back memories. I owned two Pasadena Auto mags back when they first came out. I hand made 100 Auto Mag cartridges out of 308's. That was a hell of a lot of work.
I have loaded thousands of 06, 44 mag, 308 plus many more however re loading 100 auto mag was far more difficult. A cut down 308 has a very thick wall. Each case needs a special step ream. Each case takes up to two hours or more to hand ream it to the proper thickness whiteout cracking it to seat a 44 magnum bullet.
I had a AutoMag IV made by Irwindale Arms (IAI) -- Met the Owner and he custom built me one in 10mm Magnum -- Talk about a totally orphan ammo -- Loved that gun... and talk about totally stopping everyone shooting on the range and coming to see what was making all the noise, had a problem with people picking up my brass and putting it into their pocket before I could collect it -- Don't have the gun anymore but I've still got 15-20 rounds of the ammo in the safe for when people call BS... LOL
I first heard about the Auto Mag in the mid 70's while reading Mack Bolen books, then one day I saw a TDE model in a gun store display and had to have it. I traded it for something else several years later when factory ammo became scarce, and still wish to this day that I had kept it.
From what I have heard, the problems with the old Automag were down to the fact that they couldn't machine to the right tolerances back in the day. With all the CNC stuff now, they can bring the tolerances right down to where they need to be for proper function. If I lived in a free country (rather than the UK) my name would be on that waiting list!
My first knowledge of the .44 AutoMag was from reading the Executioner books with Mack Bolan blasting the mafia henchmen!! It graced the cover of many of these Don Pendleton books!!
The Automag used in 'Sudden Impact' was so unreliable (probably due to the blanks) that Clint Eastwood got so frustrated that he threw it off the pier into the ocean and they needed a diver to retrieve it.
Yes, they couldn't make it function with blanks which isn't surprising. Most 45 autos on film are actually 9mm with special barrels because anything that takes a lot of power to cycle won't function with blanks. I've shot the original automags back in the mid-70's. Loaded for them with cut down 30-06 cases and 240 grain 44 mag bullets. Reliable and seriously powerful. My favorite was the .357 automag, a necked down 44. Didn't own any but my buddies had 3 between them.
@@thomasulbrich971 Blanks have almost no recoil. The actor has to fake the 'bounce' up. It's hard to learn and according to guys who were actors and shooters in real life, it tends to mess with your control. Sort of deliberate flinch. Of course the automag that Eastwood used was unreliable in the extreme, because blanks won't function well with any big automatic. And when it failed the producer and director which was Eastwood himself, was out a LOT of money every time they had to stop shooting.
The AutoMag made its FIRST splash in popular consciousness via the first action-adventure novel series called The Executioner. Dirty Harry just piggy backed on this. Mack Bolan is the original AutoMag bad ass.
Had one, put 20 rounds through it, then sold it for $500 more than I paid for it ($1850 at auction in 1977). I did not enjoy shooting it at all, it was "cool" enough, but had no desire to keep it, and bought my 1st Colt AR 15 at a different auction a week later. And no, I don't wish I had kept it.
Thanks, Justin. I just wish you had mentioned "Mack Bolan, the Executioner". He made me want an Auto Mag, so bad. I was in my twenties, then, and I wish you hadn't mentioned that it was FIFTY years ago.
I got turned on to those books in high school. When I was in the Air Force back in the 1980s my TI found one of them in my wall locker during an inspection. We ended up having a twenty minute conversation about the auto mag while everyone else was still standing at attention.
My brother introduced me to the Mack Bolan series of books. They got me through middle school and high school. Lost my entire collection due to flooding several years ago.
My advice? Pay beretta 3300 and buy the Manhurin MR-73. It uses more common .38 spl and .357 magnum, was built to take 150 full house 357s a day for 20 years and fits in K frame holsters. You get a work of art that was built to work for a living and you’ve got 500 bucks left over for ammo and a really nice holster
The Automag has always intrigued me every sense I first laid eyes on one in the Dirty Harry movie but I could never find one for sale, so maybe just maybe that time is getting closer to me adding one to my collection..Great Video..Thank You, I’ve been a fan of this channel for a long, long time..🇺🇸👍
Great video. I was in the Marines when I heard the Auto Mag was ceasing production. I have wanted one since I first read about them. Glad to hear they’re being made again! Thanks for the info!
Awesome! Glad its finally back. My Dad had a Pasadena model when I was a kid. I was able to shoot it often while in my late teens. It was exactly as you described. Mostly very reliable under good conditions, If you ran it hard you kept it clean and properly lubed. Due to the high bore axis and hot loads needed to properly operate it, they always kick much more than you expect them to. A S&W model 629 44 mag with a 6'' barrel appears to have far less perceived recoil. I'm looking forward to the next video. I'm especially interested in what has been changed on the new gun. Thanks for another great video
The first and only time I held an Auto Mag was in 1978 in Harlingen, Texas while my mother was visiting me at Marine Military Academy. For a long time I had told her that I wanted one more than any other gun, ever. She said she would let me buy one under her name after graduation (I would be 18 at the time). I graduated, but I could not find one to save my soul. Luckily, a new-in-the-box Ingram M-10 submachine gun in .45 ACP was available for $175 from someone who purchased a few at the MAC Bankruptcy Auction, so she bought that and registered it in her name. So for a few years I had to drag my mother with me to the range to fire it before I transferred it to me. Then for my 19th birthday she bought me a S&W Model 29 with a 6.5" barrel. I figure she was sympathetic to my disappointment over the Auto Mag (the submachine gun DID help a lot, though). Damn, that thing was GORGEOUS! I don't have the .44 anymore, but the wood box in which it came now holds the fragments of the Kiddush Cup from my wedding almost thirty years ago, and it's in the dining room on top of the bookshelves so I see it all the time and remember...
I just received my Founders Edition about 6-7 weeks ago, was waiting for 3 1/2 years to get it. It is a work of art, beautiful gun, much nicer than my North Hollywood collateral gun that was made in 1972.
Had a chance to handle an original AM in .44 Mag. back in 1975; I couldn't rack the slide until I thumb-cocked rhe hammer, and it still took both hands to pull the slide back, holding the grip between my knees! Awesome machine...
Back in the day the same company produced a .22 baby mag that was the finest finished firearm that I had ever seen,( up to that point) but the price was way above my income at the time. The Auto Mag was also the choice of fictional hero Mack Bolan in the Executioner series by Don Pendleton.
The .22 magnum is almost impossible to time correctly in a semi automatic. That's why semi auto .17 and .22mags are too long. Essentially whatever semi auto .22mag exists usually only works with one brand of ammo. They are picky. Keltec seems to have figured it out.
I have done edm (wire) work for them. As they were trying to get everything correct. It was very technical as in trying to make fixtures to hold the parts to be wired.
Thank you so much for sharing! I've had a poster of this gun in my closet growing up! I have yet to hold one in the flesh but that has never stopped me from coveting this iconic pistol! Thank you for giving me hope that I can own one of these now!
Awesome!!! Blown away-no pun intended. Is it chambered for the original auto loader cartridge or modified to fit straight-walled .44cal revolver cartridge?🧐
I have an Auto Mag 3 that works really well. It feeds several different factory ammos and reloads flawlessly. It has an excellent factory smooth trigger. I like it better than my Glock.
I almost bought one of these in 44 and one that they made in 9mm auto mag too. The shop had them when they came out and no one bought them right away. It is like everything else...hindsight is always 20/20
@@saltybuttskin Been a long time since I have seen the Beverly Hills Cop II, so there may have been one, but most of the guns they called Automags were definitely Desert Eagles.
Bought my automag in 1974 and, like an idiot, sold it. In reality, it had feed problems but was fun to shoot. But first knowledge of the automag came from Mac Bolan Enforcer book series. Mine had zebra wood grips, too.
This is great! Now, I may be able to acquire a big brother for my 22 auto mag, which I hope they also produce again with a 1911 type safety instead of the safety that operates backwards.
Looks like a giant Ruger 22 Mark 2. Looks really cool. Also since I'm a hunter looks like you could put a scope on and have a great pack gun for some close range hunting.
What About True Auto-Mag Ammo? It has not been production for a long time. It can be made made from .308 brass cut down, case mouth reamed to 451, resized in .44 mag dies, and fired. it's a process i used to do for a friend who has an original. would love to have one now...
Well done. Now that they are in production, I can take my 50 year old out more often. I was always afraid of breaking something. I've always liked letting knowledgeable shooters that knew what is was shoot it. I took it on a buffalo hunting trip to S Dakota. Took a 1700 lb animal with one shot at about 40 yds. No brass when I bought it so it was a tedious task making brass out of 308 cases. Did 100, still have 99. Lost one on the buffalo hunt. Some years ago I bought 300 Star brass. I also got lucky on Gun Broker and acquired a Lee Jurras 357 Auto Mag barrel. I like the 357/44 caliber. I have a contender in 357 Bain and Davis. Boy am I going to have fun shooting and letting knowledgeable people shoot it.
I had a Wildey .45 Win mag in the 90’s and I’ve shot the Desert Eagle. Both have unnecessarily large grips for guns with single stack magazines. The Automag seems to have much better proportions. The new one definitely interests me.
Hi Justin, im a german guy that has 20 years the first Automag,Pasadena. in 1998 i sold this nearly "unbreakable "gun to friend of mine. nearly every time of disfunktion was the ammo, hp 240 grs. made in mexico1 iha only ca. 1.5oo rounds fired, but sometimes it jammed! later i polished every cartrigde with brass polish... by the way:: NO PROBLEMS with throwing out more. after ca. 50 shots the inbus screws looses, wich come in to press the springs left and right ! i took locktite half strong. and thats it! Is it thrue that ingineurs building a gun first time around a patrone, the Wildcat 30.30 or 30.06? not usually otherwise? Youre the Specialist, wish you lot of fun, greatings from hamburg: Tom
The first semi-auto pistol I ever bought was an AMT hardballer .45 .. Who is one of the original manufacturers of the Automag in the Clint Eastwood era 🤘🏻🇺🇸 I love to see this
@@77Infidel Special. Norma made orig. Basically a 308, 30-06, or 243 cut down, and inside neck reamed to accept the .44 Bullet. No rim, just the extractor groove. About the same power as a .44 Magnum tho.
Supposedly one of the main feeding issues with the original Automag was due to friction issues between similar stainless steels. I believe that appropriate lubrication mostly fixed the problem but I assume this has been corrected in this new model? BTW, I have had the privilege of firing an original one and was pleasantly surprised. Guess I better start saving now!
Got a chance to shoot one in the mid 90"s ..30 carbine and hot handloads..loved it..big coffee can at 50 yards dancing on the hill..3" fireball out the muzzle..
I think it would be interesting to see a shooting comparison of this and a .44 magnum Desert Eagle, both with the same barrel length if possible, and maybe a Wildey as well, if one could be found.
Are these really all new or made from leftover parts and pieces? I know they were at SHOT Show a few years ago and they were trying to figure out how to reengineer the parts - the castings in particular- and having a tough time finding a foundry to make new components for this project.
I actually owned one of these back in the seventies. It was a p.o.s. sheared ears off the bolt never work right. Send it back oh, they had it for over a year. I didn't think I was ever going to get it back. Finally got it back and hear the Bulls
Small gun companies that make older classics don't hang around long. For example about ten years ago a company brought back the Coonan .357 auto mag. It look good and it was getting stellar reviews. Then the company said sayonara and if you have one good luck in finding parts. The same could happen here especially at the price they are asking and the fact that it is a novelty gun. Here today, gone with the wind tomorrow.
I got a chance to 'field' test one of these back in 72 under military combat conditions 'overseas'. The one issued to me had a shorter barrel and an off green/grey kind of parkerized non-reflective finish (bright stuff got you killed in the boonies) and had some initial reliability problems which were corrected in 'my' gun by the best armorer I knew of before my command chain allowed me to take it into the field. I only tested it for a short while because, 1. it was fairly heavy, and not well balanced, and its dimensions didn't allow it to 'sit' right in my hand, 2. the report was abusive and 'distinctive' thus giving it a unique 'signature' to anyone within earshot, 3. the tight tolerances were unforgiving in the day to day muck and junk encountered in the jungle, 3.managing the ammo was an issue, and 4. Under combat conditions, it really didn't have a defining 'role', and; 5. Finally, my understanding was that it was determined to be too expensive for the military to justify what it brought to the table. When I turned it back in, frankly, I did not miss it.
I don't know if you are aware, but we live in a time where things like these can be checked. There were NEVER any military trials not testing of the Auto Mag handgun. Nice lie though.
@@Totemparadox Sigh, You might be surprised at what events 'somehow' never make it into 'official' records..You assume too much. You should consider the possibility, that the world may not "be" what you *know* it to be..In my own life I have often found that the 'powers that be', in what ever field of endeavor, are rarely disposed to 'full disclosure'.
@@seeratlasdtyria4584 Bruh we have legit disclosed documents about human mind control experiments, possible UFO's and chemical experiments on the US people, but a pistol trial is too hush hush? Gtfo.
@@MrJstorm4 If I remember correctly, the idea was that it was intended as a 0 to 75/100 meters readily available sidearm for 'long gun' carriers so that they didn't have to hump multiple rifles through the boonies en route to their designated 'business' locations. For myself, I favored a specially slung pump 12 gauge Mossberg which could send a proverbial 'chit load' of lethal projectiles downrange in a hurry without the need for precise aiming, which in heavy foliage was a real issue with the 16.
did you ever own, shoot, or review one of the Dayton 44 automags that came out in the70's? I've always wanted to own one of those. They had such a Buck Rodgers look to them. Early pieces has some issues, but my understanding is that they became a good gun, al be it a hand cannon and requiring one to pay attention to what he was doing when the trigger was pulled. Would be interested in your opinion and thoughts on that gun. I suspect that they are collectable, and that there are still some in circulation for sale.
I had one of those about 40 years ago. Paid $1000 for it used with dies and some brass. It was somewhat load finicky. Dialed in it was a decent gun for elk inside 200yds. Can't imagine what a box of ammo for that thing goes for today. As I recall it used cut and trimmed .308 brass?
One of the issues that tanked the original was the requirement to manually cut and load 308 cases to make 44 AutoMag. Is there going to be any factory ammo available?
Will the automag cycle 44 magnum rounds loaded to lower levels equal to a standard 45 Colt cartridge? I reload 44 mag cases to 45 Colt loadings to make shooting more comfortable for my aging hands and wrists.
Almost certainly, "no". A lot of energy is needed to properly cycle the action and do so with proper timing. There is a 'sweet spot' for the ammo that is much higher than 45 Colt.
I hope this one is better than the original. I bought one in 74 or 75. Every time I shot it the magazine would fall out. I got rid of it at a gun show in Houston lol.
New 44 carbine with pistol grip. Concealed carry anyone? Very cool looking thing. What's a new one worth (or did I miss that bit)? Is there a model that is fitted with wheels and a tow hitch?
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Where can you get 44 auto mag ammo
@@jameskelly2145 That seems to be the $64,000.00 question.
I Ordered the pistol anyways eventually I will ge ammo for it
@@jameskelly2145 be carefull, watch demolition ranch. One literally just blew up In his hands, on the fourth magazine, fresh out on the box, seriously, call them and voice your concern. They take 6 to 9 months to build. It is not to late for you to contact them and make sure they fix the problem this weapon system has.
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I remember when my dad refused to buy one for $495. I'd read all The Executioner books and really wanted one at 16! Still do at 62 👴
My dad bought one and now I have it love this gun.
@@ArizonaDevil-ep9ux Doesnt it jam and falls apart after shooting it a few times?
How much does a typical gun cost in the us now? How much did it cost 10 years ago?
If you're 62 now and you wanted one at 16 for $495, then that price was around '74 or so. There's been ~475% inflation since then, so the $495 price tag would be around $2900 today.
Hope you can buy one now! I'm in the same boat.
Clint almost single-handedly revived AutoMag. Great concept. I'm glad to hear it's back.
The .475 Magnum Wildey comes to mind when I see the 44 auto mag. Charles Bronson would be proud.
I'd sooner the Wildey
Death wish 3. He special ordered it and it arrived in the mail. That was back in 1985. Now, things are different.
I bought my Auto Mag in 1982. Believe it or not, it was my every day carry, in a Bianchi shoulder holster. I was 22 and the weight didn't bother me. It came with a set of dies and that got me started down the road of reloading. It broke beyond repair in 1984. The barrel lugs broke and so did the bolt locking lugs. Hope the new ones are stronger.
Fantastic. For you personally, how was it as a carry gun (looking back in retrospect)? I'm in no place to afford one now but I'd like to order one down the road for the same purpose, albeit in a custom leg holster.
Hot loads?
Oh wow, they are finally making those again?! Pretty neat, brings back a lot of Bronson&Eastwood vibes from when I was a kid🤗
Bronson used the WIldey... :)
@@mdd1963Well I was like 8 and haven't seen those movies since so😋😂 But seriously thank you for the info, seems I have conflated the 2😉
I’d say those are a butt ugly design known from other countries. Never knew of that Dirty Harry movie certainly not this. Is it a target gun maybe? 🤔
@@mdd1963 “ Nothing is too good for our friend, Mr Wildey”...
@MGTOW Paladin But he also had a Beretta 93R!!!!!
That brings back memories. I owned two Pasadena Auto mags back when they first came out. I hand made 100 Auto Mag cartridges out of 308's. That was a hell of a lot of work.
I have loaded thousands of 06, 44 mag, 308 plus many more however re loading 100 auto mag was far more difficult. A cut down 308 has a very thick wall. Each case needs a special step ream. Each case takes up to two hours or more to hand ream it to the proper thickness whiteout cracking it to seat a 44 magnum bullet.
I had a AutoMag IV made by Irwindale Arms (IAI) -- Met the Owner and he custom built me one in 10mm Magnum -- Talk about a totally orphan ammo -- Loved that gun... and talk about totally stopping everyone shooting on the range and coming to see what was making all the noise, had a problem with people picking up my brass and putting it into their pocket before I could collect it -- Don't have the gun anymore but I've still got 15-20 rounds of the ammo in the safe for when people call BS... LOL
I first heard about the Auto Mag in the mid 70's while reading Mack Bolen books, then one day I saw a TDE model in a gun store display and had to have it. I traded it for something else several years later when factory ammo became scarce, and still wish to this day that I had kept it.
From what I have heard, the problems with the old Automag were down to the fact that they couldn't machine to the right tolerances back in the day. With all the CNC stuff now, they can bring the tolerances right down to where they need to be for proper function. If I lived in a free country (rather than the UK) my name would be on that waiting list!
My first knowledge of the .44 AutoMag was from reading the Executioner books with Mack Bolan blasting the mafia henchmen!! It graced the cover of many of these Don Pendleton books!!
Same for me!
Me too. Jeez we're old 😂🤣
@@ragnarmjolnir9654 LOL!!! 😂
I still have a trunk full of those books!! Mack Bolan, Phoenix Force and Able Team with Stony Man Doctrines!! Those were awesome!
I read a ton of those in my youth
The Automag used in 'Sudden Impact' was so unreliable (probably due to the blanks) that Clint Eastwood got so frustrated that he threw it off the pier into the ocean and they needed a diver to retrieve it.
nice story..... lol
fustrated for what, the recoil?? he had more with the .44 mag S&W Mod. 29!?
@@thomasulbrich971 The gun constantly jammed wrecking multiple shots
Yes, they couldn't make it function with blanks which isn't surprising. Most 45 autos on film are actually 9mm with special barrels because anything that takes a lot of power to cycle won't function with blanks.
I've shot the original automags back in the mid-70's. Loaded for them with cut down 30-06 cases and 240 grain 44 mag bullets. Reliable and seriously powerful.
My favorite was the .357 automag, a necked down 44.
Didn't own any but my buddies had 3 between them.
@@thomasulbrich971 Blanks have almost no recoil. The actor has to fake the 'bounce' up. It's hard to learn and according to guys who were actors and shooters in real life, it tends to mess with your control. Sort of deliberate flinch.
Of course the automag that Eastwood used was unreliable in the extreme, because blanks won't function well with any big automatic.
And when it failed the producer and director which was Eastwood himself, was out a LOT of money every time they had to stop shooting.
A Wildey Magnum was Charles Bronson's personal firearm he used it in Death Wish 3.
"We need help."
"Don't worry, my friend Wildey is coming."
Yes, I was thinking the same lol, Wildey is probably a very expensive handgun.
.475 Wildey.
I would rather have a Wildey , I almost bought one in 45 win mag .
I bought a Wildey Magnum back in 1990 chambered in 45 win mag. Fun to shoot, but it does jam up pretty often. Now its more of a conversation piece.
With a bump 😎😎🚬🚬🖖
I bet a scaled down version of that would make a great platform for the 10mm.
The AutoMag made its FIRST splash in popular consciousness via the first action-adventure novel series called The Executioner. Dirty Harry just piggy backed on this. Mack Bolan is the original AutoMag bad ass.
I am convinced that the cover model used for the original Mack Bolan books was Bruce Campbell of Ash vs Evil Dead fame.
@@KaiserSoze-vx6vo that would be something. When the first Mack Bolan book came out in 1969, Bruce Campbell was 11.
Love the Mack Bolan pocket books
" Marksman Metal " in goo 👍
@Mike Haseltine The best ones are the original Pendleton books. Gold Eagle ruined the series, took away the AutoMag and made it a comic book serial.
@@NoGoBu It was a Marksman Medal.
Had one, put 20 rounds through it, then sold it for $500 more than I paid for it ($1850 at auction in 1977). I did not enjoy shooting it at all, it was "cool" enough, but had no desire to keep it, and bought my 1st Colt AR 15 at a different auction a week later. And no, I don't wish I had kept it.
Thanks, Justin. I just wish you had mentioned "Mack Bolan, the Executioner". He made me want an Auto Mag, so bad. I was in my twenties, then, and I wish you hadn't mentioned that it was FIFTY years ago.
I got turned on to those books in high school. When I was in the Air Force back in the 1980s my TI found one of them in my wall locker during an inspection. We ended up having a twenty minute conversation about the auto mag while everyone else was still standing at attention.
My brother introduced me to the Mack Bolan series of books. They got me through middle school and high school. Lost my entire collection due to flooding several years ago.
Hi Justin, Thanks for letting us know the great news about the .44 Auto Mag return. I Sooooo Want One!
Schwarzlose Model 1898 had a rotary-bolt, that might have been the first. Still, nice to see the old classic back.
And glad to have you back!
I use to read Mack Bolan the Executioner series of books, the main character used the Automag as a sidearm.
And a supperssed Beretta 93R... Its why I fell in love with BOTH those guns!!
Mack Bolan is what got me really into weapons. Love the Automag and the Beretta 93R. Would love to own both.
@@rickmerritt8035 He was kind of gay sounding , but that was Pendelton expressing his feminine side.
@@rickmerritt8035 I have a high end airsoft 93r replica thats pretty fun!!
Yeah me too brother that was the first book series that I ever read pretty much completely besides the wingman series by Matt Maloney
I am a revolver guy, but this really interests me. I imagine the price for such limited production by a small company to be > $2,000 USD.
$3800.
That’s an early 80s price tag.
My advice? Pay beretta 3300 and buy the Manhurin MR-73. It uses more common .38 spl and .357 magnum, was built to take 150 full house 357s a day for 20 years and fits in K frame holsters. You get a work of art that was built to work for a living and you’ve got 500 bucks left over for ammo and a really nice holster
Wow! This is just one of countless temptations. Could I afford it today? Yes. Is it supportive of my financial goals? No!
@rib bit Mid range Ar's are an easy 800 to 1,000. This gun is over three times that.
I Have one! Bought it brand new in 1977 out of a sporting good/ gun shop in Seward, AK
The Automag has always intrigued me every sense I first laid eyes on one in the Dirty Harry movie but I could never find one for sale, so maybe just maybe that time is getting closer to me adding one to my collection..Great Video..Thank You, I’ve been a fan of this channel for a long, long time..🇺🇸👍
Really Nice ! Your enthusiasm shows Justin, Great history and a classic gun. Glad to see them making it again!
Great video. I was in the Marines when I heard the Auto Mag was ceasing production. I have wanted one since I first read about them. Glad to hear they’re being made again! Thanks for the info!
Thats a beauty!!! Look forward to seeing the full review of this iconic firearm.
Justin looks like he's starting a Tom Petty cover band.
Don't do me like that!
Hahahaha I made that joke on the podcast....Tom Pettys brother Dom Petty
@@michadsshootingbench Yes - but after the show had ended! Made me use my razor-sharp wit into an empty mic. LOL
No, Justin looks like he eats, Tom petty, yeah not so much...
Pure sex appeal.
Awesome! Glad its finally back. My Dad had a Pasadena model when I was a kid. I was able to shoot it often while in my late teens. It was exactly as you described. Mostly very reliable under good conditions, If you ran it hard you kept it clean and properly lubed. Due to the high bore axis and hot loads needed to properly operate it, they always kick much more than you expect them to. A S&W model 629 44 mag with a 6'' barrel appears to have far less perceived recoil.
I'm looking forward to the next video. I'm especially interested in what has been changed on the new gun. Thanks for another great video
Thank you for sharing the of the. 44 auto mag. After 50 years. By the way great show.
The first and only time I held an Auto Mag was in 1978 in Harlingen, Texas while my mother was visiting me at Marine Military Academy. For a long time I had told her that I wanted one more than any other gun, ever. She said she would let me buy one under her name after graduation (I would be 18 at the time). I graduated, but I could not find one to save my soul. Luckily, a new-in-the-box Ingram M-10 submachine gun in .45 ACP was available for $175 from someone who purchased a few at the MAC Bankruptcy Auction, so she bought that and registered it in her name. So for a few years I had to drag my mother with me to the range to fire it before I transferred it to me. Then for my 19th birthday she bought me a S&W Model 29 with a 6.5" barrel. I figure she was sympathetic to my disappointment over the Auto Mag (the submachine gun DID help a lot, though). Damn, that thing was GORGEOUS! I don't have the .44 anymore, but the wood box in which it came now holds the fragments of the Kiddush Cup from my wedding almost thirty years ago, and it's in the dining room on top of the bookshelves so I see it all the time and remember...
I just received my Founders Edition about 6-7 weeks ago, was waiting for 3 1/2 years to get it. It is a work of art, beautiful gun, much nicer than my North Hollywood collateral gun that was made in 1972.
Yep - these guns are special.
One of the best 1911’s I had was an AMT hardballer.
Now I feel inspired to re-watch all the Charles Bronson Death Wish movies.
That was a .475 Wildey Magnum. Dirty Harry was the .44 mag. All great movies!!!
Had a chance to handle an original AM in .44 Mag. back in 1975; I couldn't rack the slide until I thumb-cocked rhe hammer, and it still took both hands to pull the slide back, holding the grip between my knees! Awesome machine...
Beautiful looking gun, a work of art.
Back in the day the same company produced a .22 baby mag that was the finest finished firearm that I had ever seen,( up to that point) but the price was way above my income at the time. The Auto Mag was also the choice of fictional hero Mack Bolan in the Executioner series by Don Pendleton.
I had one of those...had. Didn't shoot for crap. Only gun I've ever gotten rid of.
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Here is a review of his Baby Auto Mag….
The .22 magnum is almost impossible to time correctly in a semi automatic. That's why semi auto .17 and .22mags are too long. Essentially whatever semi auto .22mag exists usually only works with one brand of ammo. They are picky. Keltec seems to have figured it out.
The real Baby Auto Mag was in .22lr and there were only 1000 made. They go for quite a bit more than the full size version when they come up for sale.
My friend Frito Dandito used to have an original Pasadena he showed me in 1976, you could be holding it because he sold it several decades ago.
The One Used In Clint Eastwood Sudden Impact Best Gun.
I was trying to remember the name of that one
@@mikerichardson7417 44 automag Clint Eastwood used in Sudden Impact.
Its beautiful, and i have never been into auto mags. Just fantastic.
Super report..and hello from Australia mate.
I have done edm (wire) work for them. As they were trying to get everything correct. It was very technical as in trying to make fixtures to hold the parts to be wired.
And here I sit playing with a 1903 Colt hammerless pocket pistol. Life ain't fair.
Thank you so much for sharing! I've had a poster of this gun in my closet growing up! I have yet to hold one in the flesh but that has never stopped me from coveting this iconic pistol! Thank you for giving me hope that I can own one of these now!
Was there a variant? In one of the Death Wish movie Charles Bronson has one shipped to him in the movie. Any info is appreciated.
That's a Wildey Hunter. This and that share the same idea and puspose, but were made by different companies with somewhat different mechanisms.
@@Totemparadox awesome, thank you for the info.
How does the 44 automag stack up to the 454 casull ? Can't find stats to compare the two.
Beautiful gun! Very cool to see a review on this piece.
Awesome!!! Blown away-no pun intended. Is it chambered for the original auto loader cartridge or modified to fit straight-walled .44cal revolver cartridge?🧐
Original .44 AMP round - rimless.
I have an Auto Mag 3 that works really well. It feeds several different factory ammos and reloads flawlessly. It has an excellent factory smooth trigger. I like it better than my Glock.
Harry Callahan was a great character. I would love to get myself one of these BAD boys.
GREAT video Thank you.
I almost bought one of these in 44 and one that they made in 9mm auto mag too. The shop had them when they came out and no one bought them right away. It is like everything else...hindsight is always 20/20
Just a bit of historical info. The Schwarzlose 1898 featured a rotating AR-style bolt as well, which puts it a good 70 years before the Automag.
And Beverly Hills Cop 2 the Automag had a good acting role in also.
They called it an Auto Mag, but they actually used Desert Eagles.
@@saltybuttskin Been a long time since I have seen the Beverly Hills Cop II, so there may have been one, but most of the guns they called Automags were definitely Desert Eagles.
Bought my automag in 1974 and, like an idiot, sold it. In reality, it had feed problems but was fun to shoot. But first knowledge of the automag came from Mac Bolan Enforcer book series. Mine had zebra wood grips, too.
This is great! Now, I may be able to acquire a big brother for my 22 auto mag, which I hope they also produce again with a 1911 type safety instead of the safety that operates backwards.
No ports in the barrel? What they did to improve the problems with the steel from the old models?
Looks like a giant Ruger 22 Mark 2. Looks really cool. Also since I'm a hunter looks like you could put a scope on and have a great pack gun for some close range hunting.
Those bullets sure do hit with... Sudden Impact
I HEARD THEY WOULD KNOCK YOU OUT OF YOUR SHOSES IF YOU WERE HIT WITH 240 G IT WOULD TAKE YOU OUT OF YOUR SHOSES HELLO
The first "Original" AutoMag used cut down .308 cases...FYI for anyone out there who didn't know.
They still do, because 44AMP brass is no longer made.
What About True Auto-Mag Ammo? It has not been production for a long time. It can be made made from .308 brass cut down, case mouth reamed to 451, resized in .44 mag dies, and fired. it's a process i used to do for a friend who has an original. would love to have one now...
Well done. Now that they are in production, I can take my 50 year old out more often. I was always afraid of breaking something. I've always liked letting knowledgeable shooters that knew what is was shoot it. I took it on a buffalo hunting trip to S Dakota. Took a 1700 lb animal with one shot at about 40 yds. No brass when I bought it so it was a tedious task making brass out of 308 cases. Did 100, still have 99. Lost one on the buffalo hunt. Some years ago I bought 300 Star brass. I also got lucky on Gun Broker and acquired a Lee Jurras 357 Auto Mag barrel. I like the 357/44 caliber. I have a contender in 357 Bain and Davis. Boy am I going to have fun shooting and letting knowledgeable people shoot it.
The Bob Ross of firearms. I can't fall asleep because I'm fascinated, but AFTER the video, ZZZZZZZZ!
Love my 475 auto mag. Awesome gun.
I had a Wildey .45 Win mag in the 90’s and I’ve shot the Desert Eagle. Both have unnecessarily large grips for guns with single stack magazines. The Automag seems to have much better proportions. The new one definitely interests me.
Clint is an awesome actor. I bet he was the cause why undercover narcotics/gang LEO units carried .44 Mags in the mid 80s in Chicago lol.
Hi Justin, im a german guy that has 20 years the first Automag,Pasadena. in 1998 i sold this nearly "unbreakable "gun to friend of mine. nearly every time of disfunktion was the ammo, hp 240 grs. made in mexico1 iha only ca. 1.5oo rounds fired, but sometimes it jammed! later i polished every cartrigde
with brass polish... by the way:: NO PROBLEMS with throwing out more. after ca. 50 shots the inbus screws looses, wich come in to press the springs left and right ! i took locktite half strong. and thats it!
Is it thrue that ingineurs building a gun first time around a patrone, the Wildcat 30.30 or 30.06? not usually otherwise? Youre the Specialist, wish you lot of fun, greatings from hamburg: Tom
Super sweet! Another want added to my list.
The first semi-auto pistol I ever bought was an AMT hardballer .45 .. Who is one of the original manufacturers of the Automag in the Clint Eastwood era 🤘🏻🇺🇸
I love to see this
New, but is it improved other than better CNC machining??
Hello --where do you find the SBR AUTOMAG AMMO--?????
Is there factory ammo available or do you still have to neck down 308 Winchester’s
Does it fire a regular 44mag or that special made one, that can't find?
Looking forward to it, what kind of ammunition does it fire and is ammo even available ?
I wonder the same, is it 44 magnum with the rim or a special round.
@@77Infidel Special. Norma made orig. Basically a 308, 30-06, or 243 cut down, and inside neck reamed to accept the .44 Bullet. No rim, just the extractor groove. About the same power as a .44 Magnum tho.
Do you have to load your own ammo? Does it still use cut down 30.06 brass? Are there any manufacturers that produce ammo for it?
I cover that in the full review - keep an eye out for that.
What’s the comparison with 44 de mag?
Supposedly one of the main feeding issues with the original Automag was due to friction issues between similar stainless steels. I believe that appropriate lubrication mostly fixed the problem but I assume this has been corrected in this new model? BTW, I have had the privilege of firing an original one and was pleasantly surprised. Guess I better start saving now!
Got a chance to shoot one in the mid 90"s ..30 carbine and hot handloads..loved it..big coffee can at 50 yards dancing on the hill..3" fireball out the muzzle..
Fun and interesting video on a great gun! Thanks, Dave!
I half expected you to break out the lyrics “I won’t back down”.
My dad bought one new in around 1980. I love it!
I think it would be interesting to see a shooting comparison of this and a .44 magnum Desert Eagle, both with the same barrel length if possible, and maybe a Wildey as well, if one could be found.
Are these really all new or made from leftover parts and pieces? I know they were at SHOT Show a few years ago and they were trying to figure out how to reengineer the parts - the castings in particular- and having a tough time finding a foundry to make new components for this project.
Completely new parts.
Very cool! These are awesome. Also good to know the originals are C&R now
I actually owned one of these back in the seventies. It was a p.o.s. sheared ears off the bolt never work right. Send it back oh, they had it for over a year. I didn't think I was ever going to get it back. Finally got it back and hear the Bulls
Small gun companies that make older classics don't hang around long. For example about ten years ago a company brought back the Coonan .357 auto mag. It look good and it was getting stellar reviews. Then the company said sayonara and if you have one good luck in finding parts. The same could happen here especially at the price they are asking and the fact that it is a novelty gun. Here today, gone with the wind tomorrow.
This.
Initial visual impression is that the styling and build resembles the Colt Woodsman
I got a chance to 'field' test one of these back in 72 under military combat conditions 'overseas'. The one issued to me had a shorter barrel and an off green/grey kind of parkerized non-reflective finish (bright stuff got you killed in the boonies) and had some initial reliability problems which were corrected in 'my' gun by the best armorer I knew of before my command chain allowed me to take it into the field. I only tested it for a short while because, 1. it was fairly heavy, and not well balanced, and its dimensions didn't allow it to 'sit' right in my hand, 2. the report was abusive and 'distinctive' thus giving it a unique 'signature' to anyone within earshot, 3. the tight tolerances were unforgiving in the day to day muck and junk encountered in the jungle, 3.managing the ammo was an issue, and 4. Under combat conditions, it really didn't have a defining 'role', and; 5. Finally, my understanding was that it was determined to be too expensive for the military to justify what it brought to the table. When I turned it back in, frankly, I did not miss it.
I don't know if you are aware, but we live in a time where things like these can be checked. There were NEVER any military trials not testing of the Auto Mag handgun. Nice lie though.
@@Totemparadox Sigh, You might be surprised at what events 'somehow' never make it into 'official' records..You assume too much. You should consider the possibility, that the world may not "be" what you *know* it to be..In my own life I have often found that the 'powers that be', in what ever field of endeavor, are rarely disposed to 'full disclosure'.
@@seeratlasdtyria4584 Bruh we have legit disclosed documents about human mind control experiments, possible UFO's and chemical experiments on the US people, but a pistol trial is too hush hush? Gtfo.
What purpose were they testing it for?
@@MrJstorm4 If I remember correctly, the idea was that it was intended as a 0 to 75/100 meters readily available sidearm for 'long gun' carriers so that they didn't have to hump multiple rifles through the boonies en route to their designated 'business' locations. For myself, I favored a specially slung pump 12 gauge Mossberg which could send a proverbial 'chit load' of lethal projectiles downrange in a hurry without the need for precise aiming, which in heavy foliage was a real issue with the 16.
did you ever own, shoot, or review one of the Dayton 44 automags that came out in the70's? I've always wanted to own one of those. They had such a Buck Rodgers look to them. Early pieces has some issues, but my understanding is that they became a good gun, al be it a hand cannon and requiring one to pay attention to what he was doing when the trigger was pulled. Would be interested in your opinion and thoughts on that gun. I suspect that they are collectable, and that there are still some in circulation for sale.
That's a lot of nostalgia right their.
Yes! I immediately thought of Dirty Harry in Sudden Impact!.
I had one of those about 40 years ago. Paid $1000 for it used with dies and some brass. It was somewhat load finicky. Dialed in it was a decent gun for elk inside 200yds. Can't imagine what a box of ammo for that thing goes for today. As I recall it used cut and trimmed .308 brass?
Very interesting. The weapon is made really close to me in Loris SC I see. I may go check out the company. Very nice weapon.
One of the issues that tanked the original was the requirement to manually cut and load 308 cases to make 44 AutoMag. Is there going to be any factory ammo available?
IIRC, Norma actually made a small amount of ammo for them. I even saw a box in a Big 5 Sporting Goods in the early 80's.
Thats an awesome display gun, I personally would never use it as a service pistol like Dirty Harry but a fun range gun
Will the automag cycle 44 magnum rounds loaded to lower levels equal to a standard 45 Colt cartridge? I reload 44 mag cases to 45 Colt loadings to make shooting more comfortable for my aging hands and wrists.
Almost certainly, "no". A lot of energy is needed to properly cycle the action and do so with proper timing. There is a 'sweet spot' for the ammo that is much higher than 45 Colt.
@@JustinOpinionChannel Figured so. Thanks for the info.
Question is this the old Wildey company now called AutoMag ?
No.
I hope this one is better than the original. I bought one in 74 or 75. Every time I shot it the magazine would fall out. I got rid of it at a gun show in Houston lol.
New 44 carbine with pistol grip. Concealed carry anyone?
Very cool looking thing. What's a new one worth (or did I miss that bit)?
Is there a model that is fitted with wheels and a tow hitch?
These are the coolest thing out there.
Can you add a scope or red dot on it??