The WEIRD resin printing trick that PERFECTLY tensions my resin vat FEP Sheets
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2020
- So I cannot tell you how many FEP sheets I wasted because I could never get the tension right or had uneven tension, Then I figured out this simple hack that changed how I change my FEP vats on all my non Mars and Photon printers.
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Mounting the FEP is like stretching a canvas. Its best to start your mounting screws in the center of the armature not the corners otherwise the center will loosen as you poke holes. This allows you to tug the corner to maintain tension if needed and makes sure that the tightest point of the stretched material is the center where printing most often occurs.
That process definitely makes sense but does run counter to quite a bit of "official" instructions of most of the printers I own. Fortunately with most things in printing, there are several solutions to the same problem.
I do appreciate the clear explanation in mechanics of tensioning the FEP sheet like a canvas on a frame and I'll pin it to provide value to anyone else reading in the comment section
That's the way I do it too but this hack might make it even easier.
You are quite right, Dynath. Stretch from a point halfway down each side to the center of the opposite side, and then to the center of the two remaining sides, as with a canvas, rather than starting with a corner. I'm sure you know if you start with a corner, you can usually get the first side right-straight, but if you fail to keep tension on the second side, the line of holes can creep inward. Do that again for the third, opposite side, and you are, perhaps, setting the stage for a sag as you near the end of the fourth side...which would be pretty disappointing.
Well spotted!
Then proceed to corners? or lateral middles?
What about using a drum head tensioner to get equal tension all the way around.
Information starts at 4.30. . . .
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Thank you
Thank you
Not all heroes wear capes.
I'm good. I Wana hear what he has to say. I'm a newbie so I'ma listen and not rush, he got a new subscriber
I have failed twice at replacing my FEP and was getting frustrated. Watched this video and 20min later success, this worked like a charm, very easy to do and turned out better than the original. Much appreciated Hiro!!
Okay this is a wild and awesome tip! I’m 100% going to try this
Awesome! Glad you liked the tip. It really shines with larger vats. Another subscriber swears by the cardboard frames for replacing FEP sheets on his Transform.
It works perfectly
@Uncle Jessy everytime I see yiur pfp, I see Prince Sidon
Design and 3d print a jig for this on your FDM printer. I'm going to design one for my Saturn.
As a new person to resin printing, I am glad I ran across this video early. I think you saved me some headaches in the future! Thx subbed
Welcome to the amazing rabbit hole of an adventure that is 3d printing.
Video starts at 2:16
Shorten the intro, it will increase viewer retention. Good tip though!
thanks
4:16
Thanks. This isn't weird, it's a practical solution to a complicated problem and it is really appreciated. Your thinking is in order :)
Just wanted to say thanks. Saw this video posted on an FB group. First time changing an FEP, followed your technique, and it turned out great. Onward with printing!
Awsesome! Glad to hear the hack worked for you! More printer hacks to come :)
I've just changed my Sonic Mini 4k's nfep film with this trick and it's awesome!! I got successful tensioning before without this with a lot of effort but still was not perfect. With this I got perfect tensioning, first try, effortlessly. You rock!!
About to change my first FEP, this looks to be an awesome way to ensure I don't have a bad time! Thanks!
Nice idea. Also your explanation of how the different vats are assembled answered the question I was looking for. Thanks!
Finally a proper tip for installing the FEP, thank you!
Man that is great how you found this ideal. I would never though of this. Great job 👏
i came across ur method before i had ever needed to replace my FEP, so i have only ever used this and it works really well... i enjoy ur other videos also, many thanks for ur advice, glenn
You have no idea how happy I am to see a new video from you in my notifications!
I am slowly coming back online. So hopefully I will be more visible on the feeds
Good stuff! I came up with a similar solution using the vat and frame to do the same thing, just without stapling to cardboard first. The advantage to your system is that you don't have to worry about the FEP slipping while you're setting the screws!
So simple and yet so efficient ! I was searching for a way to get the good tension on my LD 002R vat, gotta try that one ! Thanks
Did it work for you?
I just did this, first time replacing the FEP and it worked perfectly, Went in nice and tight. Thank you.
would be cool if someone designed a fep-installation frame that can be 3d printed!
I love the vibe and style of your videos. I'm working on starting my channel, as well, and I wish you all the best on this journey, I think you've definitely got the right personality and content.
I'd love to see videos on exotic colors or formulas, if you have any of those!
Drop a link to your channel in the comments, I am always up for supporting fellow small creators.
I have been really blessed to be able to experiment and test with a ton of new experimental resin blends from an awesome new resin startup. I definitely have more resin content planned both for specifically about the resins as well as new things I learned about resins in general.
Don't have a printer yet, but I watch all the vids I can. This is a GREAT video!!!! I'm now subscribed. THANKS!!!!
Impressive ! Gave you a thumbs up and you got another Sub. I don't own a 3d resin printer maybe next year, but I need to learn as much as possible before pulling the trigger. This video was very educational and provided a necessary process that one should learn. Thanks for sharing.
another tip i'd suggest is to not tighten down the screws in a circular motion. you should always use a "star" pattern to tighten things. you get each screw started and then tighten them corners first alternating from far corner to far corner all the way around the vat. you never fully tighten all screws at once you work them in slowly until all are tight.
Thanks for putting this together! I've been battling this on my Saturns for a few weeks now... Such a handsy process. Would be amazing if there was some sort of clamping, sealing type process to bypass all these screws and also to minimize tension issues.... Maybe in time we'll get some major leaps on these things.
Great hack buddy. I'll definetly try it when I change my FEP sheet and I will give you a shout.
Now if the FEP sheet manufacturers got wind of this, maybe they could start pre tensioning and mounting the FEP on cardboard during manufacture. It would make their product much easier to use
imagine if they came with a slight gasket like a car motor head gasket or something. unscrew old, clean tray, pull new one from an envelope, screw it in, attach vat and fill. easy.
@@aunderiskerensky2304 Yes please
sounds great, haven't had the need to change my FEP sheet yet but I will try to remember the trick
It’s brilliant,let them hate you ,we love these hints ! Keep at it .
Great idea. I was afraid of trying to change my fep, but not anymore
Elegoo Mars owner here. Thanks for stating that the hack is not useful for me. Thumbs up on the video for that.
Great ideas are always simple...nice one!
Thank you so much! I'm finally getting prints again :)
I can confirm that this hack does indeed work, and not just work... It works 1000%. I've been 3D printing for a little over a year and have been using this tip on all of my resin printers and the results are flawless. Getting the perfect amount of tension is vital for a successful print and although I have suffered some print failures this was never down to the FEP. So, Thank you SO SO much for sharing this tip it has saved me a fortune on buying replacement FEP as I have been able to use a single FEP sheet continuously for up to a month if not a little longer before needing to replace. :D
I think it would be very easy to over-tighten your FEP doing this exactly as shown. I don't mean like you suggest in your video, pulling it tight to the point it starts to deform - thats WAY beyond overtensioned: you actually need your FEP to be a little bit loose so that the peeling action is spread over the surface of your FEP. This is why some use a bottle cap under their Anycubic style gasket when replacing a FEP.
If your FEP is too tight then layers of the print, as they peel off will be in contact with the whole FEP. You want it to be a bit loose so that whilst it peels from the edge, the middle is still attached. This spreads the forces across the layer gradually, rather than everywhere at once. You'll see less suction related fails this way.
Yes, thats the awnser...i do it that way
Currently trying to find the distance for my FEP on an AnyCubic Photon M3 Max, I am sure a bottle cap is not the same between models and adjustment is needed for bigger films...
Awesome hack for keeping the FEP taught while installing it onto the vat!
Thanks! :)
simply genious... great engineering solutions come from simple ideas like this... practial, low cost and efectice
mate , ive had my phrozen tray needs it replaced this hack makes me not so scared, liked and subscribed :)
Thanks! I basically had the same idea, just to use tape insted of a stapler. Your video convinced me, that my idea was okay. And yeah: today for the first time in my
life I changed a FEP (on my Saturn 3 ultra) and it sits perfect at first try! 😸
DUDE: this hack is SIMPLY AWESOME AND THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
you only have 8k subs!? You deserve more!! Your vids are super helpful and awesome!
Really cool tip, I'll give it a got when time comes.
Subbed
Thanks! :)
Brilliant! Just about to try it now. Liked & subscribed - thanks for the vid.
guess i got lucky replacing ma first FEP
but I also understand the logic in what you are doing here.
nice idea!
got a feeling it's time to change ma current FEP.
will try this out
This worked perfectly for me! Thank you!!!!!
As a drummer, this is exactly the same as tensioning a tom. I even tap on the sheet with my finger at each screw location to listen for identical tone!
Hey Hiro (Yasu) I’m new to your channel. Thank you for your educational tips!
Glad to have you here! Hopefully the new resin print tips is helping make printing easier for you.
The manufacturers probably have some kind of installation jig that helps them install them quickly and easily, something like an external frame that they can quickly clamp onto a sheet to keep it just right.
I mean... I am very certain they don't have some guy sitting in a corner putting these in. This is definately machine work
Just got my first resin printer, will remember this when the time comes to replace the FEP. i think I might try to design and print (on my FDM-printer) a frame for this purpose, maybe a two part one that clips or screws together to pretension the FEP.
Amazing hack. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for this - You've earned my sub.
That power armor is amazing!
Great tip buddy, thanks!
Fantastic, simple hack!
this is actually pretty sick. Thanks man.
I'm going to have to try that.
what a life saver man, thanks a lot
Brilliant. Great idea.
Awesome hack, Thank you
really good video !
thanks for this one,so so much better than how ive been doin it
Great tip! Thanks!
Thanks! :)
Thanks you so much, useful hack for my Halot One Pro
Awesome, I went through like 5 sheets for my elegoo saturn because of how frustrating it was. I ended up sending the whole printer back and going back to FDM printers. Just a big nope... but I may try again one day because of this.
Good hack! Thank you so much
AMAZING, maravilloso. Ur a genius, too easy, to great.
Holy shit!! Thank you so much for this!! I wanted to throw my printer through the window. 😂😂
Phrozen mighty 8k has the sandwhich style pretensioner for the fep -- purchased mine in february 2023. Gottta say -- the quality of the screws/threads is very tight. Maybe that means it'll last longer? But it's a PITA to change. Atleast they updated it to be less of a PITA though!!!
Subbing, this is a cool hack! I have the Mars Pro 2, so thinking it has the initial soluble vat feature but this is great to know
Got my sub with this vid. Thanks Hiro
I love this method. The only things that made this feel sketchy was being told it wasn't sketchy and that manufacturers hate it.
Make a cheap rig to keep tension on your FEP, and saying it is wat cheaper and easier than designing, printing or building a permanent mounting tools is making a disposable frame...
I hate "company hates this trick" but I do love your content
I also hate click-bait titles like, the TRUTH about..., or before you buy, you HAVE to watch this. Gets old.
Thanks! very clever!
The sensual hand grab got you a sub. lol 😂
Worked great on an Anycubic Photon M3. Just split the plastic original into the two halves and then did the trick....
Hold up, Anycubic is using plastic gaskets for machine as large as the M3?
great idea
works awesomely!
Awesome tip, thank you
No problem!
Nice, I’ve found a video with the same trick in the usb key of my SLA. About 2 years ago.
That's actually pretty neat!!!:) SUBSCRIBED:)
I think, you can do the same (without the cardbord frame) if you didn't push metal frame into the VAT just before pokeing and screwing the FEP!. Simply lay the FEP on the VAT, then lay the metal frame on the FEP (without pushing it), poke the holes and screw the FEP in few steps (first just to hold the FEP in right position , next few steps to increase eavenly the tension )
Found this by accident while searching for nFEP videos actually. Will try this trick out! Cheers :)
Subscribed too! Will check your other content when I get a chance!
I learned that I don't have to worry about this with my Elegoo Mars. Very helpful information lmao.
With these new larger resin printers its just going to get more challenging, thanks for the awesome tip! I just got the Phrozen Sonic Mighty and I am watching my first print slowing rising out of the swamp, this will really come in handy when I have to change my FEP for the first time on this monster. Thanks!
Simple and makes perfect sense
Elegoo sell their vats and I'm pretty sure they fit most of the other brands that use the same format. You'll have to put up with a red plastic vat (unless they started selling the metal ones again) but they work.
i used this trick and it worked. thank you
Glad the trick worked out for you! :)
@@HiroCreations just used your trick again. worked again :)
@dumbcat Awesome! Glad the trick still holds up.
thank you for shairing
Sooner or later I need experience the 1st time to change my FEP, I hope with this method, it’ll work out so I can continue printing with the same quality as the old FEP from manufacturer ... :)
Makes sense, thanks.
5:02 Lol at how you stroked that, and then quickly grabbed it. Should I try this with a date? ;D
beautiful tip*
Hey ppl so I'm new to this and I know this is an old video, so the FEP is similar to a drum head and if you go to a music store you can get yourself a head tensioner. I haven't used one but the other day I was tapping my Mars 2Pro FEP and realized that when I go to change it I will try it.
Ha. You are so much fun to watch and listen to.
Video starts at 2:50 very useful.
wow... this makes me so happy to have an elegoo.
just tried ur trick... hope i did it right... fingers crossed for no leaks. Wish me luck! lol
DUDE. BEST. HACK. EVER.
You earned a subscriber
Thanks!
I bought a New frame after messing 2 fep sheets and now I hate myself for not findings this video before
2 words… Embroidery hoop.
They make rectangular ones. It would put some tension on the FEP sheet without having to staple holes in it.