As a triumph scrambler 1200xc owner, this is the 400 scrambler i had in my head when it was anounced that they were coming out with one a couple years ago. When both 400's dropped i was like , ok, i understand, but.
The svartpilen 801 is, without a doubt, a beautiful motorcycle. The problem is when we compare with the 401 (old) and 701 models… which for me are some of the most beautiful motorcycles out there. But this design was one of extremes, we either loved it or hated it. The new models are not extreme, but they lose their appeal for lovers.
23:40 It's always been the way MV Agusta released new models. First, they bring out the Serie Oro editon usually limited to 500 units , followed by the standard production model, followed by more limited edition models. They are usually the RC - Reparto Corsa celebrating the race team, celebrating various anniversaries, People - Giacomo Agostini, markets - America , race tracks - Nurburgring and Assen etc. LXP Orioli in essence is the serie oro model of the enduro veloce model. Orioli is in tribute to the rally rider Edi Orioli.
The Scout 101 is my pick, looks fantastic. I have traction control on my Pan Am, the only place I've found it useful is dirt roads, as the bike has bags of power off road. I find TCS annoying in the wet because it tries to reduce throttle when I'm taking off from the lights, and if the back wheel spins I can just close the throttle slightly, then I've been riding for 50 years without TCS.
The Aprilia has a reverse, finned NACA duct as part of it aero, thats just super clever and part of trick design features you get with an Italian motorcycle.
The only thing I would change would be on the 101. I feel like they need to raise the suspension on that one about an inch. Since it’s the performance model. Much like how they lower the suspension for the bober For the style
Nice chat. I bought a GSX8R over the 8S because of the fairing ultimately. It's more versatile & looks better imo. I also heard the 8R was on course to outsell the 8S & V-Stroms. Have to respectfully disagree thst the 8S & Hornet look the same. They do not at all! The Hornet is a good bike but it couldn't be more beige vanilla if it tried. It's also cheap feeling & looking compared to the 8S & it's only about £300 cheaper now if you want like for like. Although, you can't argue that it has more bang for buck than the Suzuki with 8bhp more & 12kg less but Suzuki's extra torque more than compensates. Supposedly the Hornet hasn't been released in the US due to noise regs which has also held up releasing the CBR750 variant too.
Rob, I hope you’re scratching the custom itch cause you’ve really got an eye for detail. I completely agreed with your breakdown of the 401 Husky vs the 801. I loved the look of the Custom Triumph Scrambler 400, my immediate reaction was I want one but seconds later realised that although I’d love a Scrambler, it’s a Scrambler I’d like and that was far too pretty to Scramble on.
Interesting that the MT07 is still a top seller in the UK (no Hornets left?). I was considering a MT07 in 2022 but supply was very limited and OTD prices were much higher than now in spite of the then lower retail. I picked up a GSX 8S (that I'm very happy with) at the end of last year and have been surprised that they have been discounted pretty much since introduction (currently $2,000 off). Here in the US (Arizona) most dealers have a few 8S and 8R Suzuki's but a large supply of MT07's even though there is no Hornet here to compete with so I'm assuming MT07 sales aren't that great here. IMO the new Husqvarna 401's and 801 look much better than their previous models. Instrumentation, elongated fuel tank, and rear fender treatment look more balanced to me and though I don't care for the exhaust/muffler as much it's easily fixable with a slip-on. Interesting that 401's are a good deal cheaper than the Duke 390 yet the Husqvarna 801 is much more expensive than a Duke 790 (?).
Agree with the lines on the 400x being wacky, and the gold forks are a problem for sure. Hate the speedo relocation. I personally am a huge fan of the way bmw and moto guzzi have don’t their analog displays for their bikes, not a huge fan of the screen off to the side.
Triumph have finally built a good looking bike with the new 400. That custom version is not my cup of tea, however the exhaust is not bad at least the header shape is good.
I thought I was going to watch a well rounded take on upcoming bikes but I only heard about two guys tickling each other's pickle! What kind of sight site are you running here? Ha ha ha! Thank God, I needed a laugh today. Carry on...
You have no clue. Europe-wide EVs cause trillions in costs which we will pay in taxes. Plus the massive inflation from skyrocketing electricity prices.
@@78Outlaw Yeah, I was unclear: I was agreeing and adding to your comment. Well, I did also mean you have no idea how absolutely horrendous the costs are...as most don't as it's been purposefully and systematically hidden from everyone. The costs are so horrendous it's crazy that's not the main conversation every day.
So many good looking bikes about. The 801 is gorgeous but I gotta stick with my fugly KTM 450 exc. I don’t have the cash for multiple bikes 😢 so it’s built for doing, not for showing.
I love how Lucky Explorer looked, but now with the price of the standard version I feel like I can get a nice Multistrada for that price v2 with accesories or V4 even.
When you say 'very engaging', do you mean Utterly Terrifying? Do non- TC Indians come with their own bespoke, customised weather stations - with built in Sunday only alarm clock?
The svartpillen 801 looks like a cheap naked to be honest... It's all fancy tech and no beauty. They should let MV Agusta design their bikes now they are main share holder instead of China CFKTMOTO
You were doing so well with the safety advantages of TC, especially at low speeds. Then, you ruined it by saying that you 'probably' don't need it as you're experienced now. That is such an old trope and totally fallacious. You may be a better rider but your reaction times won't have improved. TC will get there 1000x quicker and hunt for any available grip. You would be a passenger for the first, crucial, second or 2. Influencers' blight, imo. Still, like the vid, like the format; your mate is sensible.....please continue. Ta
Why are u always talking about new crappy bikes? take a look at the used ones that are often so much more bang for the buck than the new bikes that are made on a dime which the old ones were not.(not to this crazy extent) steel frame on every bike now and cheap parallel twins.
I agree about the MV Enduro. Ducati Dessert much better option. Even the BMW 1300 GS with a lot of options for the same Money. In my view, these luxury bikes in the dirt, have 100 hp more than what you need, but more importantly, 150 kilos in excess
I think regardin the Husqvarna you guys are confusing 'pretty' and 'good looking'. I think it looks great, but its not objectively 'pretty'. Dont think any of them were pretty, but all looked cool.
As a triumph scrambler 1200xc owner, this is the 400 scrambler i had in my head when it was anounced that they were coming out with one a couple years ago. When both 400's dropped i was like , ok, i understand, but.
I’m the 63 year old new owner of a Moto Guzzi V100S Mandello, I enjoy listening to the podcasts!
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It’s an awesome motorcycle for sure!
The svartpilen 801 is, without a doubt, a beautiful motorcycle.
The problem is when we compare with the 401 (old) and 701 models… which for me are some of the most beautiful motorcycles out there. But this design was one of extremes, we either loved it or hated it.
The new models are not extreme, but they lose their appeal for lovers.
That Scrambler looks ace. Tim's right about the mudguards though, some chunkier 70's style mudguards would finish the bike a treat.
That scout 101 is beautiful
23:40 It's always been the way MV Agusta released new models. First, they bring out the Serie Oro editon usually limited to 500 units , followed by the standard production model, followed by more limited edition models. They are usually the RC - Reparto Corsa celebrating the race team, celebrating various anniversaries, People - Giacomo Agostini, markets - America , race tracks - Nurburgring and Assen etc. LXP Orioli in essence is the serie oro model of the enduro veloce model. Orioli is in tribute to the rally rider Edi Orioli.
The Scout 101 is my pick, looks fantastic.
I have traction control on my Pan Am, the only place I've found it useful is dirt roads, as the bike has bags of power off road. I find TCS annoying in the wet because it tries to reduce throttle when I'm taking off from the lights, and if the back wheel spins I can just close the throttle slightly, then I've been riding for 50 years without TCS.
Totally agree. Svartpilen 801 is a disappointment design-wise. Bulky. Lost its charm.
I would straight up buy that Triumph Scrambler 400 X tomorrow it is Da BoMb 😂
Is that the bike in the thumbnail
Putting the Old and New Scout side-side, you’ll definitely see the Old looks better designed… 👍
Husqvarna 801 - black out side radiator guards, add gold/bronze rims. Done ✔️
That scout 101 could very much be my dream machine
Whats the bike in the thumb nial
37:45 Totally agree that old 401 is much better! Original Svartpilen owners are just pissed that the design direction goes wrong direction.
How can I find more information about this new version of the 400X?
The Aprilia has a reverse, finned NACA duct as part of it aero, thats just super clever and part of trick design features you get with an Italian motorcycle.
The only thing I would change would be on the 101. I feel like they need to raise the suspension on that one about an inch. Since it’s the performance model. Much like how they lower the suspension for the bober For the style
Nice chat. I bought a GSX8R over the 8S because of the fairing ultimately. It's more versatile & looks better imo. I also heard the 8R was on course to outsell the 8S & V-Stroms. Have to respectfully disagree thst the 8S & Hornet look the same. They do not at all! The Hornet is a good bike but it couldn't be more beige vanilla if it tried. It's also cheap feeling & looking compared to the 8S & it's only about £300 cheaper now if you want like for like. Although, you can't argue that it has more bang for buck than the Suzuki with 8bhp more & 12kg less but Suzuki's extra torque more than compensates. Supposedly the Hornet hasn't been released in the US due to noise regs which has also held up releasing the CBR750 variant too.
Rob, I hope you’re scratching the custom itch cause you’ve really got an eye for detail. I completely agreed with your breakdown of the 401 Husky vs the 801.
I loved the look of the Custom Triumph Scrambler 400, my immediate reaction was I want one but seconds later realised that although I’d love a Scrambler, it’s a Scrambler I’d like and that was far too pretty to Scramble on.
When I saw the first shot of that 400x I thought “take my money” it would probably never see a trail - I’d just have to look at it.
Husky Svarpilen 801 is just perfect, was listening to your praises MotoBOB so I ordered one 😊🤩😍 can't wait to get it ❤❤❤❤
What bike is in the thumbnail
Interesting that the MT07 is still a top seller in the UK (no Hornets left?). I was considering a MT07 in 2022 but supply was very limited and OTD prices were much higher than now in spite of the then lower retail. I picked up a GSX 8S (that I'm very happy with) at the end of last year and have been surprised that they have been discounted pretty much since introduction (currently $2,000 off). Here in the US (Arizona) most dealers have a few 8S and 8R Suzuki's but a large supply of MT07's even though there is no Hornet here to compete with so I'm assuming MT07 sales aren't that great here.
IMO the new Husqvarna 401's and 801 look much better than their previous models. Instrumentation, elongated fuel tank, and rear fender treatment look more balanced to me and though I don't care for the exhaust/muffler as much it's easily fixable with a slip-on. Interesting that 401's are a good deal cheaper than the Duke 390 yet the Husqvarna 801 is much more expensive than a Duke 790 (?).
I’m a sportsbike man, but that original Scout would look fine in my garage. What a machine.
The only Indian Scout that I have is Bobber, totally blacked out 🤟😉
Base model Scout at 1:50 looks good.
Were are the MV made ?
What are they going to call the new design 400x, and where can I find more information about it?
Agree with the lines on the 400x being wacky, and the gold forks are a problem for sure. Hate the speedo relocation. I personally am a huge fan of the way bmw and moto guzzi have don’t their analog displays for their bikes, not a huge fan of the screen off to the side.
Triumph Screambler 400X looks wicked! I have no idea where the license plate goes, but I'd buy this bike over any other version or the Husqy 401!
Triumph have finally built a good looking bike with the new 400. That custom version is not my cup of tea, however the exhaust is not bad at least the header shape is good.
What’s the bike on the thumbnail
I thought I was going to watch a well rounded take on upcoming bikes but I only heard about two guys tickling each other's pickle! What kind of sight site are you running here?
Ha ha ha! Thank God, I needed a laugh today. Carry on...
I love this motorcycle, I wish they were a little taller and longer
Can’t believe the 101 scout still comes with the shite visually disgusting blinkers front and rear. The sport scout should have inverted forks.
Hmm…..scout sport probably…and just add the shocks
So it's a Triumph Scrambler in name only? Cos if you are off-road then you will likely come off, so how will that Speedo handle a slide?
Maybe it unplugs and you stick it in a bag 😅
Speedo location on the triumph 400 is stupid, and the exhaust location next to the riders leg is not nice either.
I'm hoping the rumored Suzuki GSX8S GT WILL BE RELEASED THIS YEAR!
Money no object; 101, or R3 Storm?
Good point re EV, only fleet leases are keeping EV car sales up, private sales collapsed and cost of running now closer, 🙈
You have no clue. Europe-wide EVs cause trillions in costs which we will pay in taxes. Plus the massive inflation from skyrocketing electricity prices.
@@pistonburner6448 don’t disagree re “costs” so think you misread my EV comment, simply noting that private EV sales tanked 🤷
@@78Outlaw Yeah, I was unclear: I was agreeing and adding to your comment. Well, I did also mean you have no idea how absolutely horrendous the costs are...as most don't as it's been purposefully and systematically hidden from everyone. The costs are so horrendous it's crazy that's not the main conversation every day.
@@pistonburner6448ahh 😎 👊 💰 💥
So many good looking bikes about. The 801 is gorgeous but I gotta stick with my fugly KTM 450 exc. I don’t have the cash for multiple bikes 😢 so it’s built for doing, not for showing.
Wait, your name isn't Bob! 🤯
I love how Lucky Explorer looked, but now with the price of the standard version I feel like I can get a nice Multistrada for that price v2 with accesories or V4 even.
Go ahead and feed the Volkswagen corporation and their elitist corrupt owners, NPC.
When you say 'very engaging', do you mean Utterly Terrifying? Do non- TC Indians come with their own bespoke, customised weather stations - with built in Sunday only alarm clock?
Electric bikes, I almost got one, but it just doesn't have the range for riding in Australia.
The svartpillen 801 looks like a cheap naked to be honest... It's all fancy tech and no beauty.
They should let MV Agusta design their bikes now they are main share holder instead of China CFKTMOTO
I bought a GSX 8R but I never had bought a 8S (because it’s ugly af😂) I’m guessing that I’m not alone with this description 😃.
You were doing so well with the safety advantages of TC, especially at low speeds. Then, you ruined it by saying that you 'probably' don't need it as you're experienced now. That is such an old trope and totally fallacious. You may be a better rider but your reaction times won't have improved. TC will get there 1000x quicker and hunt for any available grip. You would be a passenger for the first, crucial, second or 2. Influencers' blight, imo. Still, like the vid, like the format; your mate is sensible.....please continue. Ta
Why are u always talking about new crappy bikes? take a look at the used ones that are often so much more bang for the buck than the new bikes that are made on a dime which the old ones were not.(not to this crazy extent) steel frame on every bike now and cheap parallel twins.
I agree about the MV Enduro. Ducati Dessert much better option. Even the BMW 1300 GS with a lot of options for the same Money. In my view, these luxury bikes in the dirt, have 100 hp more than what you need, but more importantly, 150 kilos in excess
Another Volkswagen marketing victim who can't think. What do you base any of that on?
I think regardin the Husqvarna you guys are confusing 'pretty' and 'good looking'. I think it looks great, but its not objectively 'pretty'. Dont think any of them were pretty, but all looked cool.
Really enjoy your reviews Motobob, but the other man is a bit of a sedative. He looks genuinely disinterested and is hard to watch.
They can't force electric on us, the market will speak as it is. Electric motorcycles/bikes are just dumb imo. And the market thinks the same.
How can I find more information about this new version of the 400X?
What they are showing is not the new 400x, that is a Customized Triumph 400x, its the same bike that has been around from last year.
Thank you.