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The History of Disney's Trackless Ride Vehicles
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Today we explore the history of Disney's trackless dark technology. Iterations of this technology have been around for decades and even today it's still a rare opportunity to ride a trackless attraction.
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We're glad that this video has sparked a lot of discussions! We'd just like to clarify that we don't dislike Luigi's and Ratatouille, but we believe that they don't utilise the trackless ride technology to it's fullest potential like Mystic Manor or Pooh's Hunny Hunt. - Dom
Are you going to make a reveal of disneyland Paris, and the 3 futures zones of Disney Studio Paris wich will opened between 2021 and 2025 ? (Marvel, Arendel and Star Wars, all of that around a new artificial lake) (and maybe later to complete the surrounding of the lake : Avatar Pandora zone) 😁😅
I can agree with that the Ratatouille Adventure in Paris has an over reliance on screens an i’m very interested to see how the Imagineers “Plus” the upcoming version in Epcot. However I have to disagree that it could be replicated with a traditional track system, there are parts (and only parts) that can could only be down with a trackless system.
ReviewTyme so true
aw no mention of the upcoming Beauty and the Beast trackless dark ride coming to Tokyo? The AA"s for that are looking incredible.
2 years later, Florida has two trackless systems like this, in Hollywood Studios. Rise of the Resistance and Mickey&Minnie's were two of the most impressive rides I've experienced at Disney
me too! those are what brought me here. my theory was that they operated with electromagnets, but i guess i was wrong haha
When I was a kid in the 80's, I used to have nightmares that I fell out of a Disneyland attraction vehicle that was trackless so I could never figure out where to stand so as to not get hit by another vehicle. Or I could never jump back into a vehicle because I couldn't figure out the track
We honestly need to get Mystic Manor in both of Disney’s US parks. It’s so awesome!
Definitely. I'd love to see it at the Studios as a "prop warehouse" where famous Disney and cinema artifacts come to life, OR a new Muppets ride.
Hanon Ondricek I would want to see the original Mystic Manor as an attraction in adventureland. It seems to make a good fit in that area.
Were kinda getting that with Star Wars.
I love the ride system itself, and I agree with you that Mystic Manor and Pooh's Hunny Hunt are the best examples of how you must implement a TRS. I've never been on those unfortunetly, but I've been on Ratatouille, and oh boy, what a shame that they didn't go all out with the system. Don't get me wrong, it's a great ride, but most of the time It's riding from screen to screen, and the effects are a bit... anti-climax.
Love your video's!
How to do Disney attractions right...let OLC foot the bill
lol so true 😂
I feel like you criticized Luigi's Rollicking Roadsters unfairly. It was a desperate replacement of it's previous opening-day ride, Luigi's Dancing Tires because that one was so poorly-received for the guest that experienced it, complaining it was too slow and the tires themselves that they rode on didn't move in the direction that they wanted properly. So they had to replacement it with something better. I mean, Roadsters is about Luigi having his whole family from his home city of Carsoli in Italy to Radiator Springs for a reunion and throwing a dancing celebration. So all his family members that the guests ride on just dance to one of the Cars-style revisions of famous Italian songs in sync. They rock and spin 360 degrees to each one of the songs. It's also a much tamer ride for kids compared to Carsland's Mater's Junkyard Jamboree and especially it's signature high-speed E-ticket ride, Radiator Springs Racers. So what were you expecting from it?
Yeah, that ride is not meant to be immersive or even exciting for that matter, it's more like Mater's Junkyard Jamboree, not Aquatopia.
Great video!!!
I love trackless ride but over time, they leave marks on the floor and you can sort of see where it goes.
I think they need to repaint the floor every few years.
That's the reason why I love the floor in 'Symbolica' @Efteling, Netherlands. Look for a POV and you'll see that the floor is fully themed and it makes the experience better. That said, the ride is nowhere near the quality that Disney can make, but hey, what can you expect...
@@CarlosAmigos i would say that it is definitely disney quality.. even better in some ways since they arent tied to the same old bullshit.. that ride looked refreshing.
I'd like to see an updated version of this, with your discussion of the use of the trackless ride system at Rise of the Resistance.
Watching your videos always brings a smile to my face and makes my day. Do you think once Star Wars Land comes out you’ll do a review video including the building process and opinions of the finished product? Keep up the great work man!
Hey Aiden, thanks for the kind words! We have a trip booked later in the year to do both the D23 Expo and Galaxys Edge! When that comes about we plan to give out opinions on as well as look at the history and technology that brings Black Spire Outpost to life! - Luke
Luigi's is brilliant. They had a lot of space constraints after the tire debacle.
I don't really agree with the criticism on Ratatouille. While the ride does primarily focus on the use of screens it is absolutely not a bad ride. The advanced motion vehicles allow for some really spontaneous movement. I don't agree with you saying that there is a "lack of any real utilisation of the trackless darkride technology" -- the trackless darkride technology on Ratatouille is actually used to it's fullest potential allowing the seating to tilt allowing for more dynamic movements, which fully immerse you into the screens. You can actually really feel the movements on the screen in your trackless vehicle. I think Ratatouille should be perceived as a trackless simulator darkride as POVs really don't do justice to the ride's advanced movement system. To conclude, I don't look at Ratatouille as "an excuse by Disney to use the trackless darkride system" I look at it as an experiment of Disney providing simulator-like elements to a trackless darkride. (And in my opinion this experiment has paid off quite well.
This comment is not meant to demotivate you. I really love your vids, I just didn't quite get the criticism on Ratatouille. It was after all a fun and entertaining video like always :)
Ratatouille's ride system could have easily been more traditional, with a visible track... In fact, there are so little paths that you can actually see the tracks...
Also, the biggest shortcoming; the flat floor, is hugely visible, as it cuts down visibly the lower part of the screen... And gives away an immersiveness elemet : grounf theming .
Fuerthermore, while the motion system is great, it rarely works to it's fullest potential, so it's pretty pointless...
omegaPe I think I might’ve been a bit too positive in my comment above because I do agree with some points you make. (However I still dont see how the ride could as well utilize a “tracked” system as the vehicles do cross each other’s paths multiple times). Though the ride might not be as good as poohs hunny hunt(which I’ve never ridden before) Ratatouille still really impresses me and I personally don’t think it deserves the massive amount of criticism it gets.
@@quintenvaneijk6891 In most of the scenes, vehicles just line up in front of the screen, and stay in a rigid line. The overall path is very linear, and you don't really "explore" any room, you just pass through the it... Which means that track switches could perfectly do the job...
Dominic, I'm enjoying your reviews and your voice. As a child at DisneyWorld Florida between 1984-1989, I loved the fun of the "boats" that travelled through the waterways and wished that all rides used the waterway theme. I have not yet gone back but I am looking forward to it.
Nitpick. Pooh's Hunny Hunt opened on September 1st, 2000, not 4th. Maybe got confused with DisneySea's opening on September 4th (2001).
I really love your video’s, but it almost sounds like you haven’t had a chance to ride Ratatouille. I truly believe this is one of the few rides that benefits from screens and a trackless ride system. Usually I’m not a fan of screens (feels bland) and trackless rides (most feel empty if done poorly). But in Paris it allows the guest shrink down to the size of a rat thanks to the giagantic screens and every vehicle is well positioned due to the TRS, everyone has a front row seat!
I agree. I love Ratatouille!!
Totally agree, except the screens in rise of the resistance seems really necessary and a perfect blend! But ratatouille is so immersive!!!!
I've never had the chance to experience the contemporary trackless dark ride, except for Empire of the Penguin at Seaworld. That ride is quite underwhelming, but what it does do well, is utilize the trackless dark ride to make the ride longer. In a limited space, it backtracks and shows you new scenes, as well as dances along with other cars like in Pooh.
I'm excited to see how Disney utilizes this in Rise of the Resistance. I've also heard rumors that Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway will utilize this technology as well. Starting off connected like a train, I've heard that the cars will split up down the line and engage in their own courses. Hopefully this is the case.
Empire of the Penguin was my first trackless dark ride as well and I agree, whilst it's interesting to see the tech in use it could have been so much better which I especially realised after having ridden Pooh's Hunny Hunt and Mystic Manor. Let's hope Rise of the Resistance and Runaway Railway use the technology to it's full potential! - Luke
Nice video, and I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion on Ratatouille - yes I rode it in person, multiple times. While there are one or two moments where the trackless is indeed beneficial to the experience (when Luigi makes us spin with the broom / the individual screens scenes), otherwise it just comes with a lot of shortcomings, starting with the most obvious one: that dang black floor. The movements are also really sluggish (while we are supposed to be chased!..) and while the vehicles are on a motion plateform, it's barely noticable. Indeed, trackless vehicles can't have as much power as tracked rides - a reason why the Justice League rides at the Six Flags parks kept its track instead of going trackless.
Another flaw from the trackless approach (allowing multiple vehicles in one scene) is the lack of squinching, and for a ride entierly relying on screen, it's bad.
That makes Ratatouille a multiplex 4D theater where you vehicle takes you from one theater to another... But definitely not an immersive ride like Spiderman succeded to be.... while using a track.
I loved Aquatopia, we rode it so many times as we wanted to be able to pass through this section with a waterfall. It's one of the most perfect uses of this technology imo and it's great to have outdoor uses of it.
Great video! First time I've seen your channel - very well done! I just subscribed and am preparing to binge...
Finally a good video to help explain what a trackless ride is!
the ratatouille ride has one or two elements that could not be done with a traditional track ride. that being said, they could be altered to suit a tracked ride. still liked it tho
*MYSTIC MANOR IS BEST TRACKLESS*
I’ve always wanted to go on it but I’m a local to Disneyland so I haven’t been to any other disneypark
Rise of the resistance in my opinion!
IMO, the track version of Winnie the Pooh in California and the trackless version in Tokyo are VERY similar experiences and you would never guess the Tokyo one cost so much more to build. I think the trackless tech is way more hype than significant advantage for fun enhancement.
The mystic manor has the best attraction, gift shop, restaurant combo
underrated channel!!
I loved this video!
It's great to see how ride systems have advanced in the years. I went on ratatouille and I think it could be much better, but unfortunately there are too many screens..
I can't wait to Hong Kong disneyland to experience Mystic manor. i hope it will blow my mind :D
Also maybe a suggestion for a new HistoryTyme video. What about animatronics? they just announced the new A1000 animatronic wich will be used in galaxy's edge. i would love too see a video about that with some more additional information :D
Dark ride = interior indoor ride?
I'm reminded of a European attraction called Symbolica, which I believe uses similar technology. It's pretty mind-blowing in its potential applications.
Curt Clark It’s also use in Warner Bros World Abu Dhabi.
It's the same Dutch company that built most of these rides (the trackless part).
I think Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway is also going to use this tech
_beaugood just rode it today, it does
I'd have said that water ride thing in Toyko was kinda like the Flying Saucers only one water and actually working.
The trackless ride is made by ETF, and is founded in the very south of Netherlands in a very small town called Nederweert (a few kilometres from my home)… 😅
Always love your content.
Nice video! Very informative. The Mystic Manor trackless ride is absolutely amazing. Hopefully, the new Star Wars Rise of the Resistance ride will be as good.
A little correction to your video. In the beginning you said that wire guided vehicles used magnets, that is incorrect. The wire in the floor produces a magnetic field radiating from the wire and a specialized antenna on the ride vehicle is able to locate the origin of the magnetic field. A little bit of a shameless plug, if you search on youtube "Inductive Guided Robot" I posted a video of a small scale example of Inductive Guidance and explain in depth how it works.
I am a firm believer that Disney's first trackless ride was Davy Crockett's explorer canoes. It may have cast members to keep it on course, but it's still a free moving experience
That was a very good video. Thank you!
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Great video. I love those rides but I do enjoy ratatouille as well
How could you forget the first trackless in America at SeaWorld Orlando? That was the big breakthrough of trackless technology that brought it into the mainstream market for use.
This video we mainly decided to focus on Disney's use of the technology, whilst Empire of The Penguin was the first use of the Trackless Dark Ride in America, by then Pooh's Hunny Hunt and Mystic Manor had already been opened and showed what can truly be done when the technilogy is used spectacularly well. - Luke
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you need a part 2 of this video with star wars and mickeys and minnies railway!!!
I believe these rides like mystic manor are not made by Disney like they were back in the day. They are made by companies that design and build them and Disney just pays for it.
The music almost put me to sleep but the info was great!
Wait is the boiler room on the second floor?
Yes, since they can't dig underground very far. (they'd hit the water table) The unload was below the boiler room/load, so they had to make it on the actual ground level. Thats why you walk up the hill before going into the building.
Excellent review!
I understand that this is about Disney trackless dark rides, but by far the best I've experienced is symbolica at efteling.
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We love you too Paul! - Luke
I love Luigi’s Rollickin Roadsters
I wish I could Cosplay in tokyo disneyland...
Luigi's is actually way more fun than Aquatopia, it has more movement and spinning and it is synchronized to a soundtrack.
when this channel blows up people are gonna see my comment and go "oh damn"
This is so interesting
why would they not take advantage of the freedom of movement , and make the rides interactive?
of course , for safety's sake , the riders will not control the ride directly, any input has to go through the 'Director' to stop the ride from turning into a bumper car arena...
I think you should look up the word exasperate.
Isn't the new TDL BATB ride also gonna be trackless?
It sure is! I didn't include it in this video because we don't have all that much information about the usage of the ride system apart from some brief snippets and pieces of concept art. - Dom.
Beauty and the beast?
Indiana Jones is still the best ride... coming in close is Shanghai Pirates but that ride is pretty empty compared to the dense effects in Indy. Of course Indy Disney Sea is the better of the two but I love the new trackless inventiveness. These rides do have to keep capacity in mind as it means nothing if it can take only a dozen passengers a day through it. Pirates and Haunted Mansion chew through guests with their ultra high capacity.
How about mystique manor
Trackless rides feel really empty for me, I prefer tracked rides by far. They also have a lot of element of surprise with rotation etc. and who's looking at the direction of the tracks anyways =|
The Pooh ride should be at Disney World
Look at eftelings symbolica..
Ive been on all these rides.... Mystic Manor is way too hyped and Rat is far better than some say. Pooh's Hunny Hunt is the oldest and still the best of the bunch. It moves the most and has the most thrill. Mystic Manor on the other hand has more classic Disney dark ride elements but is lame compared to the OG haunted mansion. Rat is more like a Universal ride so I think that's why diehard Disney fans tend to hate it. None of them are perfect but all of them are enjoyable.
The ride is never perfect, that’s why you need to reride…smart on Disney’s part.
What about DINOSAUR or Indiana Jones?
Great video but how dare you speak ill about Luigi's!
None of these work when I ride them.
How about you just do videos on all Dark Rides not just at Disney, But in other parts of the US and the world???
Ratatouille not as good because of screens!? What are you talking about? It's a genius idea, the cars act and work like an actual rat running around the oversized props, in no way do the screens detract from the experience.
You're making it sound like it's Disney's invention
Well, they revolutionized it and popularized it so I guess they should be credited.
@@gissneric no, ETF should be credited
pretty sad that disney understands that fans in other countries demand innovation while americans will continually consume the same old rehashed garbage.
Ratatouille is sooooo boring... What a waste of a great technology!
all disney does is talk about things looking up, it was fun at 5 and 10 but a complete waste of money and time from there on not to mention a complete BORE !