Not surprised that there was a tree along the mainline. The Sierra is not a friendly terrain and has slides and falling debris quite frequently. Even when you bronco up (a highrailer that goes two miles ahead of the train) you can still come up upon a slide, it's just railroading in the Sierra.
True. Several years ago, my boys and I were walking along track 1, about a mile or so south of Colfax, and stumbled upon the remains of a tree that had apparently fallen across the tracks. Tree carnage. I can only imagine what that looked like at the time.
Thanks so much for that info! I learned a little more about how steam locomotives work, today! And with a great crew lead by Ed Dickens, Jr., I know the "Big Boy" will be okay. 👍
Being in a railroad family I know more or less how cylinder cocks work, but your video today was again highly educational and fascinating to see about the Pike's Peak engine too
EVEN ON DIESEL LOCOMOTIVES THE CYLINDERS THERE, ALSO HAVE CYLINDER COCKS! THIS IS FOR POSSIBLE COOLING WATER LEAKING INTO THE CYLINDERS WHILE SHUT DOWN! ALSO IT IS POSSIBLE WITH AN DEFECTIVE FUEL INJECTOR TO HYDROLOCK AN CYLINDER! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍
@@rossbryan6102 I’ve hydrolocked a jet ski. The seals were leaking in the engine compartment door. And when I’d dork it over the engine would suck water! I’d take out the spark plugs and turn it over. Water mixed with oil everywhere! Keep cranking. Squirt some starter fluid in there. Plugs in. Duck tape the door closed. Back out on the lake!
@@ToyManTelevisionAN INTERESTING NICKNAME GIVEN ON THE SANTA FE WAS THE NAME “ HACKSAW”!! THE GENTLEMAN WITH THIS NAME WAS HENRY KANIVE WHO RETIRED AS AN HIGH UP MECHANICAL DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR ABOUT THE TIME I STARTED WORKING FOR THE SANTA FE MECHANICAL DEPARTMENT, SEPTEMBER 1964. WHEN HE HIRED IN AS AN MACHINIST APPRENTICE, HE WAS ORDERED TO REMOVE THE MECHANICAL LINKAGE FOR THE CYLINDER COCKS BY HIMSELF, WITH NO MACHINIST JOURNEYMAN PRESENT! AT THE JOB, HE COULD NOT FIGURE THE PROPER REMOVAL PROCEDURE, SO WENT TO THE TOOL CRIB AND CHECKED OUT AN HACKSAW, AND REMOVED THE PARTS IN PIECES! FROM THIS TIME UNTIL RETIRED , “ HACKSAW HENRY “ WAS HIS NICKNAME!!😅😅 KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍
I was in Auburn when it hit the tree. We knew there was damage to “a valve” but there were no further details. Appreciate the explanation! For those wondering the train has a tool car (with parts) and the “steam team” made the repairs on the spot. It took several hours but they were very thorough in making the repair and post inspection.
Thanks. I had searched to find the extent of the damage. I managed to find a forum where a guy theorized that 4014 could run on three sets of cylinders, but that apparently wasn't the case.
Well, that’s a piece of Steam history that I never knew about. Your knowledge and your desire to document this historic Steam engine’s travels brings me much joy! Gracias🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nice to learn Union Pacific Big Boy was restored to operational condition and pulling cars. Been following Canadian Pacific 2816 steam locomotive and train tour of Can, US, Mex during recent months. Thanks for video, helping explain steam locomotive logistics, valves, and functions.
I just learned something new about steam engines. I did not know that was why they released the steam. Thanks for sharing and hope it does not delay them to long. GOD BLESS 🚂 💕 🚂 💕 🚂 💕
If you ever visit the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden, CO to see the 491, RGS 20, or 346, you should do a collaboration with Mark E. “Hyce” Huber who works there. They have one of the Pike’s Peak locomotives as well there, and Hyce’s (if I recall the right number of greats) great-grandfather was the Edward Huber of the Huber Steam Tractor Company. After seeing this video, I bet you two could talk for hours on the mechanical details! Even swap stories about the Uintah Railway, I’m sure.
Hi Dale, hope you and Karyn are well. I really appreciate that your explanations are factual and correct. I would also add cylinder cocks are opened at any time that water is carried over during priming to prevent damage. Which includes loosening of piston heads, Piston cylinder covers and liner walls, bent Piston rod cotter pins or total failure with smashed Piston covers. The pressure relief valves are supposed to prevent that, but blue Peter in England was a classic example of the damage priming can do. Keep up the good work. Cheerio from Down Under .
EMD diesels have “Condensation cocks” on each cylinder that are opened. The engine (Diesel Engine) is “Barred over” one revolution by hand using a 1.5”by 48” round bar. This is to blow out any water that might be on top of the piston. The engine is turned over a few revolutions without turning on the fuel pump. Then the cocks are closed and the engine (diesel) is started. This will prevent hydrolock which could damage the piston. My dad was a round house helper for the Pere Marquette RR at North Yard in Muskegon Michigan. He told me that if the cylinder cocks weren’t opened, the water could blow the cylinder head off the cylinder.
Great vidio, like the steam effect while engine is blowing off so i installed a smoke unit by the coal , water , facility, neet.Thanks for the morning coffee...
I see Donner is continuing its proud tradition of saluting passenger extras with trees. It did the same thing in 1869 to the CP's Golden Spike special. That's why Jupiter was at Promontory-the originally scheduled locomotive-Antelope-was in the shops getting repaired.
The Pikes Peak steam engines will no longer be operating. When they rebuilt the rail line, they changed the cog/rack system. While they updated some of the former diesel railcars for the new rack, they have no intention of going through the expense to change the cog wheels on the steam engine. I did ask the company directly and that was essentially their answer.
I am priginally from Colorado Springs and have ridden behind steam engin #4. The only way to do it. I love steam. Much better than today's modern cars. That said, I would go to the top of Pikes Peak any way I could, if only it were possible.
Thanks for a great explanation. I'm 77, and maybe should know better by now, but I've always been completely confused about the inner workings of steam locos. I still am, but at least I understand what you're saying about those steam release valves! Fascinating about the Pikes Peak train, too. Genius! Question: do they really still run steam at Pikes Peak? I thought I heard they stopped running steam when they rebuilt everything a few years ago.
Correct. There are four surviving engines. Two of them are still on the railroad and number four was running when I shot that video in 1988 I think. Rate number four could easily be made to run it would just have to be brought up to proper inspections Right now they have no interest in doing that.
@@ToyManTelevision Thank you. Let's hope that interest in steam is rekindled. Those are great looking tea kettles and an important part of the railroad's history.
I was going to chase that day but some medical issues kept me away. From others that I know that were out there I got reports of other delays. Passengers needing to get off train at Immigrant Gap , brakeshoe fire at Shed 47, crew change east of Truckee. Pretty long day by the time they got to Sparks.
I suppose they are ready for almost anything with a support team and parts on board. How many crew live on the train when it is out and about? And who gets to ride in the dome cars?
Hey there, any idea why the Diesel Locomotive is back? I'm kind of thinking the PTC they built into the tender is not working right? Or is it because of the need for better dynamic braking? When he left Cheyenne on June 30th, and I took video of him leaving, there was no Diesel Loco. Then watching other video's, I saw the Diesel Loco was back, in a video dated July 4th. So any idea why?
According to Ed Dickens at the Roseville Q&A session on Friday (7/12), it was for help going over the 2.5 percent grades that Donner Pass has, he said the Big Boy handles 2% or lower grades. Nothing mentioned about dynamic braking, I wouldn't think it would be needed... remember, Big Boy was handling long/heavy loads back in the day before dynamic breaking was a thing.
Grey Pines are dangerous and shitty trees - they are prone to sudden splitting, cracking and snapping in the middle of the summer as well as winter windstorms.
I can't confirm the validity of this information; I heard through a few circles that the tree fell across the tracks just as the Big Boy was exiting the tunnel. That would explain why it was there and no one knew about it. Again, I cannot confirm if this is true or not.
Would you do a video on the change of cars on 4014. When it left Cheyenne it had cargo cars and when it got to Roseville it had passenger cars. No one has an explanation of the change or reason.
According to the news, the rest of the run was canceled. Unless something has changed since last night... nope. Just checked. This tree ruined the rest of the run and Big Boy is, presumably heading home.
Thus far I'm not seeing any changes being made on the Union Pacific Steam Schedule, but I'm keeping an eye open for any changes. As of the time of this writing, the Steam Location Tracking map is showing that the No. 4014 locomotive is stopped at Hazen, NV.
@@WandereroftheLabyrinth I don't think it was the rest of the entire schedule that was cancelled, the long delay from the tree incident did cause them to cancel the planned whistle stops at the Colfax and Truckee depots, and the planned viewing at Sparks. The rest of schedule after Sparks still shows intact. It was already in the plan to start heading back to Cheyenne after the Roseville, CA event.
In the immortal words of the cow to the asparagus, “OK, this is bad enough, nobody scream cabin or underwear”. Three toots on the whistle if you get what two movies I just referenced.
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Clear, informative, expert explanation.
Thank you!
You are welcome!😊😊🚀
Not surprised that there was a tree along the mainline. The Sierra is not a friendly terrain and has slides and falling debris quite frequently. Even when you bronco up (a highrailer that goes two miles ahead of the train) you can still come up upon a slide, it's just railroading in the Sierra.
Yeah, there’s a bit of thunderstorms that were rolling through. Even in the Midwest.
Yup. Lived there for two years shoveling snow with a front loader!!
True. Several years ago, my boys and I were walking along track 1, about a mile or so south of Colfax, and stumbled upon the remains of a tree that had apparently fallen across the tracks. Tree carnage. I can only imagine what that looked like at the time.
Thank you for the explanation, helps to understand the trials and tribulations of present big boy railroading!!!!!
Had not idea about the Big Boy and thanks for the story about the Pikes Peak RR and the braking system. Dynamic braking with steam! 😊
@@garyacker7388 never thought of it that way but YES!! 👍
Это выдающийся паровоз😊❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much for that info! I learned a little more about how steam locomotives work, today! And with a great crew lead by Ed Dickens, Jr., I know the "Big Boy" will be okay. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! We have a traction show coming up soon!
Being in a railroad family I know more or less how cylinder cocks work, but your video today was again highly educational and fascinating to see about the Pike's Peak engine too
Thanks!!!🚂🚂🚀
EVEN ON DIESEL LOCOMOTIVES THE CYLINDERS THERE, ALSO HAVE CYLINDER COCKS! THIS IS FOR POSSIBLE COOLING WATER LEAKING INTO THE CYLINDERS WHILE SHUT DOWN!
ALSO IT IS POSSIBLE WITH AN DEFECTIVE FUEL INJECTOR TO HYDROLOCK AN CYLINDER!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
👍👍
@@rossbryan6102 I’ve hydrolocked a jet ski. The seals were leaking in the engine compartment door. And when I’d dork it over the engine would suck water! I’d take out the spark plugs and turn it over. Water mixed with oil everywhere! Keep cranking. Squirt some starter fluid in there. Plugs in. Duck tape the door closed. Back out on the lake!
@@ToyManTelevisionAN INTERESTING NICKNAME GIVEN ON THE SANTA FE WAS THE NAME “ HACKSAW”!!
THE GENTLEMAN WITH THIS NAME WAS HENRY KANIVE WHO RETIRED AS AN HIGH UP MECHANICAL DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR ABOUT THE TIME I STARTED WORKING FOR THE SANTA FE MECHANICAL DEPARTMENT, SEPTEMBER 1964.
WHEN HE HIRED IN AS AN MACHINIST APPRENTICE, HE WAS ORDERED TO REMOVE THE MECHANICAL LINKAGE FOR THE CYLINDER COCKS BY HIMSELF, WITH NO MACHINIST JOURNEYMAN PRESENT!
AT THE JOB, HE COULD NOT FIGURE THE PROPER REMOVAL PROCEDURE, SO WENT TO THE TOOL CRIB AND CHECKED OUT AN HACKSAW, AND REMOVED THE PARTS IN PIECES!
FROM THIS TIME UNTIL RETIRED , “ HACKSAW HENRY “ WAS HIS NICKNAME!!😅😅
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
👍👍
I was in Auburn when it hit the tree. We knew there was damage to “a valve” but there were no further details. Appreciate the explanation! For those wondering the train has a tool car (with parts) and the “steam team” made the repairs on the spot. It took several hours but they were very thorough in making the repair and post inspection.
Thanks. I had searched to find the extent of the damage. I managed to find a forum where a guy theorized that 4014 could run on three sets of cylinders, but that apparently wasn't the case.
Thank you for sharing this information, footage and explanations! We really appreciate you!
@@JDubya96 thanks!
Well, that’s a piece of Steam history that I never knew about. Your knowledge and your desire to document this historic Steam engine’s travels brings me much joy! Gracias🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks!!!!!🚀🚀🚀🚂
Insightful video... loved seeing Big Boy in Roseville, what a treat for railroad enthusiasts to say the least!! Thanks for sharing 👍 🚂''''""""
You are so welcome!! 🚀🚀🚀
What a beautiful and amazing piece of machinery!
True!! 🚂🚂🚂
Nice to learn Union Pacific Big Boy was restored to operational condition and pulling cars.
Been following Canadian Pacific 2816 steam locomotive and train tour of Can, US, Mex during recent months.
Thanks for video, helping explain steam locomotive logistics, valves, and functions.
I just learned something new about steam engines. I did not know that was why they released the steam. Thanks for sharing and hope it does not delay them to long.
GOD BLESS 🚂 💕 🚂 💕 🚂 💕
Thanks! Blessings right back. 😊
If you ever visit the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden, CO to see the 491, RGS 20, or 346, you should do a collaboration with Mark E. “Hyce” Huber who works there. They have one of the Pike’s Peak locomotives as well there, and Hyce’s (if I recall the right number of greats) great-grandfather was the Edward Huber of the Huber Steam Tractor Company. After seeing this video, I bet you two could talk for hours on the mechanical details! Even swap stories about the Uintah Railway, I’m sure.
Love the place!!! I have old video to with Robert Richardson. 😊😊🚀🚂
Hi Dale, hope you and Karyn are well. I really appreciate that your explanations are factual and correct. I would also add cylinder cocks are opened at any time that water is carried over during priming to prevent damage. Which includes loosening of piston heads, Piston cylinder covers and liner walls, bent Piston rod cotter pins or total failure with smashed Piston covers. The pressure relief valves are supposed to prevent that, but blue Peter in England was a classic example of the damage priming can do. Keep up the good work. Cheerio from Down Under .
Interesting that I’ve not been able to find any other videos or articles on this
Can't tell when mother nature is going to throw a curve ball!!. Great info on releasing steam. I had no idea!!
Great job, thank you.
EMD diesels have “Condensation cocks” on each cylinder that are opened. The engine (Diesel Engine) is “Barred over” one revolution by hand using a 1.5”by 48” round bar. This is to blow out any water that might be on top of the piston. The engine is turned over a few revolutions without turning on the fuel pump. Then the cocks are closed and the engine (diesel) is started. This will prevent hydrolock which could damage the piston. My dad was a round house helper for the Pere Marquette RR at North Yard in Muskegon Michigan. He told me that if the cylinder cocks weren’t opened, the water could blow the cylinder head off the cylinder.
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Great vidio, like the steam effect while engine is blowing off so i installed a smoke unit by the coal , water , facility, neet.Thanks for the morning coffee...
Very cool! I want to try that.
On the east coast we hit trees all the going up the rail time. Usually after a good storm. It's unfortunate that it caused that damage.
I missed it going through Utah but hoping I see it coming back. I took Friday off just for this.
Wow you never know what you may encounter on the rails.
Tree!!!!! Oops.
good to c u again
I see Donner is continuing its proud tradition of saluting passenger extras with trees. It did the same thing in 1869 to the CP's Golden Spike special. That's why Jupiter was at Promontory-the originally scheduled locomotive-Antelope-was in the shops getting repaired.
Opening the valves allows the steam to preheat the cylinders so water doesn’t condense in cold cylinders
The Pikes Peak steam engines will no longer be operating. When they rebuilt the rail line, they changed the cog/rack system. While they updated some of the former diesel railcars for the new rack, they have no intention of going through the expense to change the cog wheels on the steam engine. I did ask the company directly and that was essentially their answer.
I am priginally from Colorado Springs and have ridden behind steam engin #4. The only way to do it. I love steam. Much better than today's modern cars. That said, I would go to the top of Pikes Peak any way I could, if only it were possible.
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Hmmm very intresting
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In the winter time it so cold that it takes up to 5 mins having those open.
Wow. Didn’t know.
Thanks for a great explanation. I'm 77, and maybe should know better by now, but I've always been completely confused about the inner workings of steam locos. I still am, but at least I understand what you're saying about those steam release valves! Fascinating about the Pikes Peak train, too. Genius! Question: do they really still run steam at Pikes Peak? I thought I heard they stopped running steam when they rebuilt everything a few years ago.
Correct. There are four surviving engines. Two of them are still on the railroad and number four was running when I shot that video in 1988 I think. Rate number four could easily be made to run it would just have to be brought up to proper inspections Right now they have no interest in doing that.
@@ToyManTelevision Thank you. Let's hope that interest in steam is rekindled. Those are great looking tea kettles and an important part of the railroad's history.
Thanks 😊😊
Good night
@@jeffbangkok night
I was going to chase that day but some medical issues kept me away. From others that I know that were out there I got reports of other delays. Passengers needing to get off train at Immigrant Gap , brakeshoe fire at Shed 47, crew change east of Truckee. Pretty long day by the time they got to Sparks.
PLEASE CALL IT CYLINDER DRAINS FOR MY PASTORS LOL😅
This has to be the worst thing to ever happen in Donner Pass! Wait a minute....
I suppose they are ready for almost anything with a support team and parts on board. How many crew live on the train when it is out and about? And who gets to ride in the dome cars?
Hey there, any idea why the Diesel Locomotive is back? I'm kind of thinking the PTC they built into the tender is not working right? Or is it because of the need for better dynamic braking? When he left Cheyenne on June 30th, and I took video of him leaving, there was no Diesel Loco. Then watching other video's, I saw the Diesel Loco was back, in a video dated July 4th. So any idea why?
According to Ed Dickens at the Roseville Q&A session on Friday (7/12), it was for help going over the 2.5 percent grades that Donner Pass has, he said the Big Boy handles 2% or lower grades. Nothing mentioned about dynamic braking, I wouldn't think it would be needed... remember, Big Boy was handling long/heavy loads back in the day before dynamic breaking was a thing.
Grey Pines are dangerous and shitty trees - they are prone to sudden splitting, cracking and snapping in the middle of the summer as well as winter windstorms.
No Christmas tree fer sure!
Not the 4014!!😢😢
the train hit the tree? or stopped because it was on the tracks?
Dale, is 4014 performing some sort of revenue service with all those cars it is pulling?
I can't confirm the validity of this information; I heard through a few circles that the tree fell across the tracks just as the Big Boy was exiting the tunnel. That would explain why it was there and no one knew about it. Again, I cannot confirm if this is true or not.
Would you do a video on the change of cars on 4014. When it left Cheyenne it had cargo cars and when it got to Roseville it had passenger cars. No one has an explanation of the change or reason.
There were paying passengers on the trip from Roseville to Sparks The passenger cars were deadheaded out to be used for that leg of the trip.
I wondered why it was stopped for so long in the middle of nowhere near Auburn.
Yup. 5 hours.
Do you know if this will delay the Big Boy schedule?
According to the news, the rest of the run was canceled. Unless something has changed since last night... nope. Just checked. This tree ruined the rest of the run and Big Boy is, presumably heading home.
Thus far I'm not seeing any changes being made on the Union Pacific Steam Schedule, but I'm keeping an eye open for any changes. As of the time of this writing, the Steam Location Tracking map is showing that the No. 4014 locomotive is stopped at Hazen, NV.
@robertemmons2260 Hmm. Well then hopefully the article I read was wrong. Fingers crossed.
@@WandereroftheLabyrinth I don't think it was the rest of the entire schedule that was cancelled, the long delay from the tree incident did cause them to cancel the planned whistle stops at the Colfax and Truckee depots, and the planned viewing at Sparks. The rest of schedule after Sparks still shows intact. It was already in the plan to start heading back to Cheyenne after the Roseville, CA event.
@3henry214 Ah. Fair enough then. Thanks for the info. ^_^
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In the immortal words of the cow to the asparagus, “OK, this is bad enough, nobody scream cabin or underwear”.
Three toots on the whistle if you get what two movies I just referenced.
so sad
Pikes peak does not have a operational steam locomotive any more tge new rack system does not work with the old engine
I'm