I ran a dedicated 20 amp line from my breaker box to a dedicated heavy duty 4 gang box using hospital grade plugs I installed in the wall behind my system. Use this for amps and source components only. My router, cable box, turntable light and anything else run to a standard 15 amp house circuit, that I added a 4 gang box, giving 8 places to plug those in. My main amp plugs wire run straight from the plug, straight to the breaker.,keeping as pure as possible
Your not supposed to run Amps through surge protector or a avr / pre pro. According to gene from audio alcoholics. I think I still have the article saved if you care to read it . I ran 3 20 amp circuits and put 3 20 amp sockets in the wall to run my home theater. Some of the best money I spent for my ht..
I've been binge watching some of your videos at work and just came across this one. I was actually contemplating these two exact power conditioners 2 weeks ago LOL. I guess I'm on the right path in my audio journey. I ended up going with w-3900 and 10awg power cord because it is the cheaper option now. I'll have to look into the PineTree power cables, thanks for the tip!
Appreciate everything you do brother I ordered the emotiva power conditioner few days ago about to order the pine tree power cord again thank you also GR research has some wire you can buy that has the cotton rope in the middle I use that for my DAC you could tell the difference
My pleasure my friend. I really try hard to only bring truth as it is to me. If you scroll wayyyyy back in my video history, you will find me talking about not being able to hear a difference. It was only when I got to a level of resolution in my system that let those nuances through, could I notice a difference. And I don’t run super high end stuff. But it does take a certain level to really let it shine through. ❤❤❤❤
@@abxaudiophiles I will visit older content. Agree with the resolution needed to hear the smallest changes. Good or otherwise. I want your thoughts and take. What does your ears tell you. I respect what reviewers observe. Helps us all make an informed decision.
The difference in power phase can often be “measured”, by comparing the difference in emission from the chassis of a device with a AC sensor one like the Supra pen. Apparently you also can get a measurable potential on the cabinets of interconnected devices, that are “out of phase”. I don’t have much understanding about how these things work, but have personally had my amplifiers transformer stop humming in response to my TV’s brightness and had severe phono stage hum go away by turning plugs. In each case I turned the plug of a different device then the one displaying the issue and in each case I could re-introduce the problem by turning that plug again. Using a mix of grounded and ungrounded components might be a factor.
What are you currently using for your power filtration/distribution? Shopping around but so many options. Looking at a AS-EU08 as an option and maybe the Emotiva.
I use the Tripp lite isobar8 ultra with my stereo. Designed for AV applications and Functional/ many connections for my equipment. They also insure my equipment if there was some form of electrical damage.
I just bought an EMI meter, and my Waudio 3900 is actually adding more noise to the system. I do not recommend. This is in a new construction building, single family house.
@@abxaudiophiles unfortunately I am past the return period. You should pick up an EMI meter. That could be some great content for your channel. Not enough out there currently about what actually works. Same for Ethernet filtering.
what i would like to know is why my audio is so edgy during the day, at 6pm it gets better and by 10pm its smooth and delightful ? 10pm is not always a good time to crank it up anyone have or had and solved this issue ? it would be nice to know the exact solution rather than spending on 3k filter that has 10 stages of filtering when i omly need the 1 or 2 stages that fix the issue i have ..ty ty ty
It is a REAL thing... The only thing I know of that will fix it completely is a true reginator like PS-Audio has. Otherwise full filtering at the panel and dedicated line... ALL EXPENSIVE...
@@abxaudiophiles thanx for the reply, it's just strange to me no one is home during this time so I basically have the transformer in the backyard all to myself during the day, so I'm left to think it's the closing of businesses using 3phase 🤔
It has been my understanding that the Emotiva CMX-6 does only AC line noise filtering. I was just reading their description of the CMX-6 on the web page and it states that it also does "Precision DC offset filtering". Did Emotiva change the CMX-6 so it does the same DC filtering as the CMX-2 now or is the current description wrong on their web page?
Well, that is actually kind of backwards, In a Lo-Fi system you may be hard pressed to hear a difference as typically those systems are not a resolving and revealing. In a Hi-Fi or even upper Mid-Fi system these changes and upgrades in linear power supplies can be drastic!! Cheers.. :) Stay tuned as we find out all the great details. PS - I have about $17,000 in my main system and it is VERY revealing to the slightest change. This should be a fun experiment.
@@abxaudiophiles No you have it backwards. any good system you buy have engineers who know more than you and even know more about their particular device and what exactly it needs and have thought this thing down to the last detail and built in the filter in the device. you adding another power filter is like washing your already sparkling clean plate again and expecting the food to taste better. pretty dumb. and in fact if you use a filter that was not designed for your particular device it can harm the performance by not delivering the power fast enough.
I disagree, and that's ok. We are on the same team, and I don't need to be right. That is just my opinion :). Companies cut corners all the time to hit a price point and market. Utilizing a cheaper SMPS over a hefty LPS is one way among many (many do this). Then, other qualified engineers and designers capable of designing an upgraded part or parts that may have been left out to keep at that price point do so, and we have what we see here in the new LPS. I appreciate your opinion, and I love the feedback and thoughts. But we will end it here and agree to disagree, online debates are not fun. I guess we will find out the truth when we get the unit in and do the swap and review. :) Cheers, and have an awesome day! Stay tuned.
@@BwanaJesuasifiwe ABX is a very specific test. I have done many of them over the years... It can be a fantastic tool... One of many that can be utilized alongside the ear . :) Cheers
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I plug my Hi-Fi system into the power strip with my coffee maker because it has a Filter. 😊
Heck yea John!!! Way to improvise!!! Cheers... :)
I ran a dedicated 20 amp line from my breaker box to a dedicated heavy duty 4 gang box using hospital grade plugs I installed in the wall behind my system.
Use this for amps and source components only.
My router, cable box, turntable light and anything else run to a standard 15 amp house circuit, that I added a 4 gang box, giving 8 places to plug those in.
My main amp plugs wire run straight from the plug, straight to the breaker.,keeping as pure as possible
Another great option if the individual has the funds and ability to do so. 😊😊👍🏼👍🏼
Your not supposed to run Amps through surge protector or a avr / pre pro. According to gene from audio alcoholics. I think I still have the article saved if you care to read it . I ran 3 20 amp circuits and put 3 20 amp sockets in the wall to run my home theater. Some of the best money I spent for my ht..
I've been binge watching some of your videos at work and just came across this one. I was actually contemplating these two exact power conditioners 2 weeks ago LOL. I guess I'm on the right path in my audio journey. I ended up going with w-3900 and 10awg power cord because it is the cheaper option now. I'll have to look into the PineTree power cables, thanks for the tip!
Thank you!! Keep us posted. Tons of good stuff on the market these days.
Appreciate everything you do brother I ordered the emotiva power conditioner few days ago about to order the pine tree power cord again thank you also GR research has some wire you can buy that has the cotton rope in the middle I use that for my DAC you could tell the difference
AWESOME !!! 🤩
Brave to discuss this topic. Can be very tough to. Appreciate your thoughts on some pretty affordable options. Thanks James. All the best.
My pleasure my friend. I really try hard to only bring truth as it is to me. If you scroll wayyyyy back in my video history, you will find me talking about not being able to hear a difference. It was only when I got to a level of resolution in my system that let those nuances through, could I notice a difference. And I don’t run super high end stuff. But it does take a certain level to really let it shine through. ❤❤❤❤
@@abxaudiophiles I will visit older content. Agree with the resolution needed to hear the smallest changes. Good or otherwise. I want your thoughts and take. What does your ears tell you. I respect what reviewers observe. Helps us all make an informed decision.
The difference in power phase can often be “measured”, by comparing the difference in emission from the chassis of a device with a AC sensor one like the Supra pen. Apparently you also can get a measurable potential on the cabinets of interconnected devices, that are “out of phase”. I don’t have much understanding about how these things work, but have personally had my amplifiers transformer stop humming in response to my TV’s brightness and had severe phono stage hum go away by turning plugs. In each case I turned the plug of a different device then the one displaying the issue and in each case I could re-introduce the problem by turning that plug again. Using a mix of grounded and ungrounded components might be a factor.
Good points.
Both of my cmx6 filters came with good heavy cords. 99.00 a piece
100%. 😉
What are you currently using for your power filtration/distribution? Shopping around but so many options. Looking at a AS-EU08 as an option and maybe the Emotiva.
Currently a used PS Audio regenerator.
I use the Tripp lite isobar8 ultra with my stereo. Designed for AV applications and Functional/ many connections for my equipment. They also insure my equipment if there was some form of electrical damage.
Very nice!!
I use the 3900 And it's great. I need the more plugs. I've tried Other brands that actually makes my system sound worse.
:) NICE!!!
I just bought an EMI meter, and my Waudio 3900 is actually adding more noise to the system. I do not recommend. This is in a new construction building, single family house.
Nice thing about ordering on Amazon is a quick and free return if it doesn't work for you. My house is 25 years old and it worked well.
@@abxaudiophiles unfortunately I am past the return period. You should pick up an EMI meter. That could be some great content for your channel. Not enough out there currently about what actually works. Same for Ethernet filtering.
It looks like there is a new CMX6+ for $199.
It looks promising. I have not tried it yet.
what i would like to know is why my audio is so edgy during the day, at 6pm it gets better and by 10pm its smooth and delightful ? 10pm is not always a good time to crank it up
anyone have or had and solved this issue ? it would be nice to know the exact solution rather than spending on 3k filter that has 10 stages of filtering when i omly need the 1 or 2 stages that fix the issue i have ..ty ty ty
It is a REAL thing... The only thing I know of that will fix it completely is a true reginator like PS-Audio has. Otherwise full filtering at the panel and dedicated line... ALL EXPENSIVE...
@@abxaudiophiles thanx for the reply, it's just strange to me no one is home during this time so I basically have the transformer in the backyard all to myself during the day, so I'm left to think it's the closing of businesses using 3phase 🤔
@@phillipmorris9847 someone just did a review on this exact phenomena. It’s real, and strange. I feel ya buddy. 😊🤣
@@abxaudiophiles 😱 can you direct me to that review please, ty
Absolutely agree (as I think most do); only guess is sun rays disappear!?
Qual a diferença entre ele e um condicionado de energia
It has been my understanding that the Emotiva CMX-6 does only AC line noise filtering. I was just reading their description of the CMX-6 on the web page and it states that it also does "Precision DC offset filtering". Did Emotiva change the CMX-6 so it does the same DC filtering as the CMX-2 now or is the current description wrong on their web page?
I think its an error on their part
They updated them recently. Both are + models now. I just received the 6 plug version.
@@bryansteven83 Great update!! Thank you
if this improves the sound then your system is really LoFi
Well, that is actually kind of backwards, In a Lo-Fi system you may be hard pressed to hear a difference as typically those systems are not a resolving and revealing. In a Hi-Fi or even upper Mid-Fi system these changes and upgrades in linear power supplies can be drastic!! Cheers.. :) Stay tuned as we find out all the great details. PS - I have about $17,000 in my main system and it is VERY revealing to the slightest change. This should be a fun experiment.
@@abxaudiophiles No you have it backwards. any good system you buy have engineers who know more than you and even know more about their particular device and what exactly it needs and have thought this thing down to the last detail and built in the filter in the device. you adding another power filter is like washing your already sparkling clean plate again and expecting the food to taste better. pretty dumb. and in fact if you use a filter that was not designed for your particular device it can harm the performance by not delivering the power fast enough.
I disagree, and that's ok. We are on the same team, and I don't need to be right. That is just my opinion :). Companies cut corners all the time to hit a price point and market. Utilizing a cheaper SMPS over a hefty LPS is one way among many (many do this). Then, other qualified engineers and designers capable of designing an upgraded part or parts that may have been left out to keep at that price point do so, and we have what we see here in the new LPS. I appreciate your opinion, and I love the feedback and thoughts. But we will end it here and agree to disagree, online debates are not fun. I guess we will find out the truth when we get the unit in and do the swap and review. :) Cheers, and have an awesome day! Stay tuned.
@@abxaudiophiles one more thing, why do you call yourself abxaudiophile but don't do any abx?
@@BwanaJesuasifiwe ABX is a very specific test. I have done many of them over the years... It can be a fantastic tool... One of many that can be utilized alongside the ear . :) Cheers
Emotiva sold out of there's because of you.
Damnit!!! LOL
Yes -just to convince yourself
Or, just to see if it benefits your system or not.. :)
I run a cmx2 and cmx6
Stunning value and performance. Well done.
@@abxaudiophiles I did that since cmx2 is AC Line Filter With DC Offset Eliminator and cmx6 only does AC Line Filter. Not sure why
@@derekhoshaw3072 Good call!! I was thinking about that as well. Do you run your main power amps in the 2 then?
@@abxaudiophiles I have the cmx2 plugged into wall outlet and cmx6 plugged into that and my equipment in the cmx6.
@@derekhoshaw3072 Ohh, ok, makes sense now. Thank you for the clarificatioin
Hey, have you tried pine tree audio's iso power 15 amp power conditioner? Would be a good one to review. I can't find any videos of it on youtube.
We will hopefully be reviewing that soon! I have an email out to Jesse.