and its a rolling lap so cars starting lap at different speed. A proper comparison lap should be from stand still with same driver, same conditions. Its the only way to compare cars really
Laptimes in motorsport aren't measured from a standing start. Its always a flying lap. 0-60 times are for starting from a stand still. Laptimes should always be a flying lap.
This is incredibly unfair anyway... One car was a Hatchback Record Holder on the Nurburgring for 6yrs straight and one is a non turbo affordable sports drifter for the casual car fan???
Different drivers, different start speeds, but most important different tyres with the Renault wearing sport tires while the GT wearing the "grippy" Michelin primacy...
@@JG-ze7md I have a BRZ and was wondering if you also changed the diameter of the wheel, mine is stock but debating to go for an 18 inch or keep it at 17 inch, your response will be greatly appreciated.
@@saulespino2510 Changing the tires will do most of the difference. I drived my BRZ on semi slicks on 16 inches wheels (205/55r16) in the last 3 years, way more grip than with the "standart" michelin primacy. Going to 18 makes sense mostly for looks or if you target precise tires (for instance the michelin PS4s, only available for18 inches and above)
@@cleonzenasro2998 The tires alone make the gt86 1.5-2s faster on an average length track, in terms of normal cars it isn’t much but in terms of f1 it is a whole year
not that long ago, they said the Megane RS was more fun to drive than a 370Z. Now they say the opposite. It's a brilliant show, but they jump to (bad) conclusions too quickly
@@smilepermile8165 prefer the gt86 from the outside, inside is very nice mind on the gr ....the both cars look like they could hit 60 in around 5.5 seconds shame they don't.
@@scotty2036 I thought you said in your original comment "if it had a 0-60 of around 6 seconds this Toyota would be awsum.". Toyota stated that this 2.4 with 30ft lbs more torque at a much earlier RPM can make the new GR 86 get from 0-60 in 6 seconds.
all tester use factory car, they not modify absolute nothing. but if you know that it´s tires are shit buy a 86 and change it, and you will not be regret! PS: Sorry about my inglish!
Vicki, are you single yet...no, well ok then, maybe next year... Since we don't get the Megane here, the BRZ/86 wins for me. I believe it is a great chassis let down by bean counter wheels/tires. The car has so much potential, I don't think people really understand it and is the main reason why it seems to be misunderstood. It is like going to a burger joint and being able to build a burger yourself, layer by layer, versus ordering it one way or another and getting it the way it was prepared by someone else and not really to your specifications. You can leave it plain and enjoy it or you can spice it up and enjoy it. Sky's the limit.
The poms are a mish mosh of both. They didn't have the balls (or maybe the intellect) to go fully metric. Australia did it properly. Km/h, kw, nm, mm is where it's at. Imperial is such a flawed system.
Only thing i don't like about these comparisons, is that they use different drivers for time trials
and its a rolling lap so cars starting lap at different speed. A proper comparison lap should be from stand still with same driver, same conditions. Its the only way to compare cars really
Laptimes in motorsport aren't measured from a standing start. Its always a flying lap. 0-60 times are for starting from a stand still. Laptimes should always be a flying lap.
Tyres are the biggy. Same rubber on both and it would be very close.
This is incredibly unfair anyway...
One car was a Hatchback Record Holder on the Nurburgring for 6yrs straight and one is a non turbo affordable sports drifter for the casual car fan???
@@dgbucko Untrue... Be about the same.
Different drivers, different start speeds, but most important different tyres with the Renault wearing sport tires while the GT wearing the "grippy" Michelin primacy...
The first thing I changed on my 86 was 1 inch wider rims and a good set of tires. Completely changed the grip on it .
@@JG-ze7md I have a BRZ and was wondering if you also changed the diameter of the wheel, mine is stock but debating to go for an 18 inch or keep it at 17 inch, your response will be greatly appreciated.
@@saulespino2510 I kept them at 17 inch and just went wider.
@@saulespino2510 Changing the tires will do most of the difference. I drived my BRZ on semi slicks on 16 inches wheels (205/55r16) in the last 3 years, way more grip than with the "standart" michelin primacy.
Going to 18 makes sense mostly for looks or if you target precise tires (for instance the michelin PS4s, only available for18 inches and above)
@@JG-ze7md what brand of tires did you get?
I wish fifth gear was still on :(
Only 2second with stock Tyres .. 😅 The GT86 is very good
As Jeremy Clarkson said " one second on the track is a year of difference "
If you're in a F1 car
@@cleonzenasro2998 The tires alone make the gt86 1.5-2s faster on an average length track, in terms of normal cars it isn’t much but in terms of f1 it is a whole year
I really love fifth gear but you need to work on your cinematography. To many jump cuts imo. It is still the same nervous camera style.
Tiff and Vicki should have their own show :(
FozzyWig Tiff and Johnny are actually going to be having their own show on Motortrend as the duo has tweeted.
Little Man
They should bring Vickin and Jason too.
not that long ago, they said the Megane RS was more fun to drive than a 370Z. Now they say the opposite. It's a brilliant show, but they jump to (bad) conclusions too quickly
That guy never stopped talking, teasing Vic and he was still slower ;-)
So? that's what makes it entertaining.
@@king-manu2758 so? I still commented on it ;-)
Because the gt86 is much slower. He raced even in f1 in the 80s.
He is a legend
Name the most recent car with hydraulic power steering, cable-operated throttle, manual transmission, and front-engine-rear-wheeldrive layout...
Not the 86, has electronic steering
It's like a dad teaching his daughter to drive! :D
Would buy the GT86 I mean if you want to be faster then just put a Turbo in or Supercharg it
For that Money you can Push the megane at least to 350 hp
A lap around Nurburgring the Megane would be a mile in front.
I dont drive a car for numbers but for feel and fun💁🏼♀️
renault has 150% more torques than 86 lol
And lower in the power band not at the top
What a biased review the megane rs holds the record for nurburgring . Gt 86 is about 15 seconds off doesnt even male top 30
Renault megane 👍🏆
Gt86 is a car which tell us fun to drive but it has much potential for dynamic customizing.
Megane RS ❤️
Wouldn't mind slipping Vicki into fifth gear
7.7 sec to 100?? Thats slow as fuck, my clio with the same hp does 0-60 in 6.8 sec
GT86 is such a beautiful car ...shame it's underpowered ....if it had a 0-60 of around 6 seconds this Toyota would be awsum.
It does. 7.7 is if you're a complete nonce of a driver
Mellow Yellow what do you think about the GR 86 with its 2.4 engine?
@@smilepermile8165 prefer the gt86 from the outside, inside is very nice mind on the gr ....the both cars look like they could hit 60 in around 5.5 seconds shame they don't.
@@scotty2036 I thought you said in your original comment "if it had a 0-60 of around 6 seconds this Toyota would be awsum.". Toyota stated that this 2.4 with 30ft lbs more torque at a much earlier RPM can make the new GR 86 get from 0-60 in 6 seconds.
@@smilepermile8165 all the reviews I've seen are saying 6.3 to 60
Vicki would have won driving the 86 hands down.
Phil Martin Man she is fine as heck, and can handle a wheel.
Dream lady right there!
2019 and fifth gear only have the budget for a hand held stopwatch.
The GT86 is not a hot hatch!
Nope and never will be!! Pig ugly too!
why dont they use better tires on 86 when testing
all tester use factory car, they not modify absolute nothing. but if you know that it´s tires are shit buy a 86 and change it, and you will not be regret!
PS: Sorry about my inglish!
What tires ???
Megane is a different league of car to the Slowyota 86 ;)
Vicki, are you single yet...no, well ok then, maybe next year... Since we don't get the Megane here, the BRZ/86 wins for me. I believe it is a great chassis let down by bean counter wheels/tires. The car has so much potential, I don't think people really understand it and is the main reason why it seems to be misunderstood. It is like going to a burger joint and being able to build a burger yourself, layer by layer, versus ordering it one way or another and getting it the way it was prepared by someone else and not really to your specifications. You can leave it plain and enjoy it or you can spice it up and enjoy it. Sky's the limit.
forgo all practicality so you can do big lairy power slides to the shops
Fifth gear
Mph, kilograms, horsepower. Still can’t work out if the English is imperial or metric
The poms are a mish mosh of both.
They didn't have the balls (or maybe the intellect) to go fully metric.
Australia did it properly.
Km/h, kw, nm, mm is where it's at.
Imperial is such a flawed system.
Guys, Soviet This work really sounds pretty attoundingon ..
I would still rather have the Renault looks so good and more power 😁
Can't stand Tiff, just doesn't stop yapping.
Would rather get the Renault
Come back fifth gear!! What happened?
But the GT86 looks more fun
200hp VS 265hp...
Similar Prices shame on Toyota
With only 2 sec difference😂
2 seconds is huge on a track!!!
@@vancehibberd7544 not for 65 hp of difference...
3'50 bas shift down for thé engine
Now put Toyota's optional TRD wheel/tire package with actual sport tires and it would match Megane
No it wouldn't 😂
0:50 who tf would switch gears like that ffs it annoys me so badly :D
Shut up Japan Car Fanboys..
This is Renault Sport.
Gt86 any day
Let me know, when it can lap the Nuremberg in under 8min's.......⏲
@@brycem0 It probably never will but lap aren’t that important to me. I’d Prefer to go sideways at 20 than set a fast lap time
and the magane strikes again.....hahahaha.....
0-60 on a gt86 or brz is 6 seconds btw lmao
Mad photoshop skills 03:05
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Wow, Renault includes dishwashers in their cars as standart
Herr Novak good one ha
Péssimos condutores
Tiff mansplaining to Vickie the whole time is annoying
What a lame toyota..a wannabe "sportscar"for posers without power....😴
Lmao you're a fucking clown
Tom dimc shut up mong
@@lelisamohamed4355 uhhhh...😂😂lame comment you monk
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toyota is nice car and that makes it winner but mugan is for stupid bloody old grandpa s
But grandad won :)
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