Odd choice to put SS frets on the middle model but not locking tuners. Perhaps an easy enough mod to make but even if they built the standard to a price point they could have stuck them on the professional model. Not the least because the professional model has little or nothing tangible to set it apart from the standard.
It would be more fair comparison if the Revstar was with humbuckers and not P90S, apart from that I think that the p90s compliment really nicely your style of playing, nice clarity and articulation :)
Got my Revstar standard 2 weeks ago and cannot put it down. I have a couple much more expensive guitars and the Revstar holds up without a doubt. It’s an awesome guitar. I had the 502t for a couple weeks but returned it because I didn’t like the neck. The standard is phenomenal.
i remember when the original revstars came out, there was this green one with p90’s at guitar center for a long time but everytime i went there i couldn’t put it down. it wasn’t even the high end model but it just felt and sounded excellent.
Fantastic playing bro , and a terrific review, revstar is just so versatile, and that cleaner tone from the p90 is just lovely, only problem in Australia is we can’t get stock after the initial release, patiently waiting for more stock to arrive , cheers from Australia 👍😎
Love love love this video. Not sure about these things, but to me it would make better sense to compare a LES PAUL with P90s to a Revstar with P90s and a LES PAUL with Humbuckers with the Revstar with Humbuckers. The Revstar with Humbuckers definitely has a warmer tone. There I said it. haha. My next guitar will probably be the Revstar with the Humbuckers. I just can't find one to try out. They are so popular that none of the stores have them on the walls.
Have a revstar standard with P90s, it's ridiculously good and addictive. For the money it's ridiculous I don't think anything compares. I have been tempted by the top tier but I'm not sure a couple of carbon fibre rods in the body are enough to justify the extra outlay. I think the P90s have become my favourite pickup. (I still love my Les Pauls though).
When I played them both side by side with Ross from yamaha, I can't say it was night and day - especially now I've found out that they're both Stainless frets...I'll try and sort a standard
@@johnnathancordy I guess they still apply more carefoul sourcing on the materials for their MIJ stuff, as well as that IRA treatment that's supposed to make them feel more broken in / relaxed / played. Pickups and hardware or electronics do not seem different, so it must be the overall materials quality and the craftmanship plus that spa treatment of theirs. I too am insterested if you find some details since this time around the price gap is quite huge for what apparently isn't that much of a difference. The indonesian made guitars are notorious for their often not quite dry wood and sometimes iffy finish colors and layers, but apart from the fact I've seen two Revstars with dead notes (G octave thereabouts on actually both) to me they seem more or less the same as PRS SE. On the other hand I've also seen dirt cheap older japonese guitars made of plywood that felt really better to play and hond than guitars ten times their price :) Who knows.
Just get a twin humbucker model and slap in a humbucker sized P90. Even P-Rails with the special frame to select between humbucker series/parallel, single, p90 would work if you don't mind its look. OR get a p90 sized dimarzio super distortion (they have them) and slap it in a p90 revstar. Game over.
@@andreil1234 Yes and no. The sound is not totally the same, plus the aesthetic is a big part of it. Yamaha already makes at least 2 models of their Pacifica line in that same configuration, so it shouldn't be a stretch. It's not everyones cup of tea, but with multiple brands offering the soapbar/HB configuration, it must be popular enough.
I have thought the same thing ... I'd kind of like to hear it in their version first, but I have another guitar with that set up and I absolutely love that combination ... (On Gretsch, that's a "Duane Eddy style") ...
If I could have a Revstar with an ebony board and Lollar Imperial pickups that would be ideal… The humbuckers on my HH Revstar are pretty good though - low output, relatively clear: sort of halfway between those P90s and the Slash pickups. Lovely playing btw
I am in love with my Revstars. Never even considered a Les Paul. You don't need to buy the Japanese model. The Standard is fine. Looks-wise the Revstar is the coolest of any to me.
Very interesting you say the Rev sacrifices the in-between tones because for me the middle position is very important for quality funk tones & of course other rhythm styles. Great comparison dude they are both great guitars anyhow.
I meant the kind of sounds where you can turn down the neck pickup/treble pickup - the in between pickup options on the Rev are super useful - sorry I wasn't very clear with what I was saying!
Excellent, and so clearly presented, just the information I was looking for too. Many thanks Indeed John. Yamaha will need to settle up with You for all extra sales. Your playing demo's are quite something. Thanks Again
Im buying a Revstar but that Led Paul is an exceptional example. It sounds better than most I must say. Still the Revstar is calling me. They also make it with Humbuckers such may have been a better comparispn. Nice playing
I have actually played the two side by side.. very recently. Limited example (single sample) but the 2018 Revstar 620 (mine) build quality is better overall whereas the 2022 Gibson Standard 60s tone is better overall. The 61 Burstbucker pickups in the LP are just so dang sweet. Neither overreach the other by much in any category except price. I wound up sending the LP back for a few very minor quality issues. Which is the 2nd one to be returned, the other being a 2016 Standard. I had high hopes they would be keepers.
@@martyshwaartz971 - had the same thought but a set of 61 Burstbuckers are really pricey and the Yamaha humbuckers are actually quite nice, just different. So not gonna go there.
The 2022 Revstar Standard and Pro have completely different pickups, neck, and focus switch than the 2018 models. Not sure, does the 2018 even have a 5-way switch? Either way I don't remember it having the delayed phasing at positions 2 and 4. The 2022's are really a different animal, and especially in tonality than the 2018.
@@martyshwaartz971 That's right! I put a set of Lollar Imperial in my Revstar 620. Even with this mod, the Revstar option is in the price range of a Les Paul... Studio or Tribute.
Just bought one. I just heard way too many good things about it. There was one left in stock and every website I checked they wouldn’t be in stock until December so I just grabbed it. It was the black model.
Your Les Paul sounds better when you played the two next to each other. The LP sounded warmer with better note bloom. With that said, I really want to get a Revstar to add to my collection because I already have some LPs. You make both sound extremely great!
Really nailed that description, couldn’t agree more. I love both, this Yamaha definitely has a unique sound to it. Whereas the Gibson is just so iconic and familiar
Nice playing dude…I bought the sunset burst p90, incredible guitar…probably overall the best guitar I own…those pickups are so damn punchy and clear…there’s SO many sick tones in this this..best neck I’ve ever played too…EVERY neck should be satin
I just bought a Revstar and am waiting for it to show up. My steady girlfriend is my Gibson Les Paul Custom Axcess w Floyd Rose , I don't think she will get too jealous if I play around with the Revstar . The Axcess is built to give axcess to the higher notes and with the Silver Burst it pretty much rules my entire collection , BUT I still play the others a lot . The Revstar with the stripes got my eye and Sweetwater said the Revstar will resemble my Les Paul .
Dude! You’ve got the high end Japanese made RevStar Pro to compare that Gibson to. There is no comparison! Gibson could never match the sheer quality of a Japanese made Yamaha because even their American made LPs quality has turned to shit over the last 20yrs! Gibson has got to the point where they charge you way more for way less in return!
FWIW, my 2017 Classic T Les Paul was/is flawless, great QC, frets etc. I definitely agree the Revstar feels more like playing an LP, but with advantages of an SG. I don't think you sacrifice in between tones on the Revstar. Opposite in fact.
Just returned the RSS02t in Sunset Burst for a RSS20 in Flash Green. I like the humbuckers more, even though the Sunset Burst and the tailpiece on the 02T were totally pissa. I had an issue that I fixed with the RSS20; The signal was completely cutting out intermittently. It turned out to be that the factory used shielding paint in the tight output jack hole and because it's so tight in there, if the jack isn't positioned just right on the jack plate, the signal can short out on the paint (that's why I hate shielding paint). I immediately threw out the cheap Korean single-sprung jack, removed what shielding paint I could with sandpaper, lined the jack hole with electrical tape and installed a Switchcraft #11 jack. I used heat shrink on the solder connections. Problem solved.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video. Now the big question: which rev do I get... p90s or humbucker? Could be a nice comparison to do for your next video 😉
After playing my brother in law's Gibson SG I wanted a new humbucker guitar and after watching many reviews about the Revstar Standard I went ahead and bought one with the humbuckers. The fit and finish is great however my feelings about the sound are still pending. The Revstar sounds somehow more robotic than the Les Paul's creamy heavy tones. Neither guitar sounds muddy if the pickup height is set correctly. If you are trying to get a Les Paul sound out of the Revstar I haven't found it. But that doesn't mean it isn't a great playing guitar and a better feeling guitar than the Les Paul. The gibson Les Paul is legendary for a reason, that classic rich dark creamy rock sound only seems to come from some Les Paul's if you are lucky enough to get a good one. I am sure I will find a tone that I like on my Revstar with more messing around.
Just got myself a Gibson Les Paul Standard 60s Faded which I like very much. I prefer the satin finish and the sound of the 60s Burstbucker over that of the 50s Burstbucker 1 and 2; it is much clearer and thus gives you more options with the tone controls. This being said, I would never buy a Gibson without trying it first, even though the quality control is supposedly better nowadays. I do love my new Les Paul, but I must admit that the attention to detail is lacking compared to other less costly instruments like my Godin Summit Classic Convertible Gold HG; it is night and day. For the same attention to detail, would I need to spend 5K for a Custom Shop or more for a Murphy Lab? It does not make any sense. I would not be surprised at all if the Yamaha Revstar was superior in terms of quality and consistency, even the Standard model.
Revstar is amazing but it's not a Les Paul, for better or worse 😂 That said with some 70+ years between designs the Revstar does boast some fantastic features and the perfect blend of modern against traditional - For the price you can't beat the Revstar! I still want a Les Paul more though 😝
Would be interesting to hear the Revstar against a Les Paul Special. I was considering the Gibson Tribute P90 Special and the Revstar standard, I went with the Gibson because they were in stock but still interested in the Yamaha. That said the Gibson is great, it has the clarity and lighter weight than a full fat LP, and would be closer to the Revstar, having P90's.
I have the RSP20, Excellent guitar... I love it. This guitar is a Tone Monster through a tube amp. ( I have Blackstar Studios, the EL34 and the 6L6 models.) I have a Les Paul Tribute with missing Link Audio pick ups in it, and I love the Tribute with those PU's installed. A different, warmer Tone Monster through the same tube amps. Both of your guitars sounded amazing (great playing) but I kinda liked the tones from the Les Paul a tad bit better. I like warmer tones though. Still, I plan on adding one of the Standard P90 Revstars to my lil collection.
I think the Yamaha seems exceptional for the money but I prefer the Gibson’s two tones and volumes approach to maximise flexibility and control compared with passive boost and ‘in between’ positions.
Definitely the les paul. They have definitely had problems but I have a 2021 LP special and it is solid. The sound of a les paul. I seen the doobie brothers a while back. One had a strat and the other a les paul. They both did solos. Everyone kind of sat there through the strat solo. As soon as that guy stepped up with the les paul everyone was immediately on their feet and cheering. It just blows through the mix with a massive sound
The late '70/80s Yamaha SB2000was for me the best (off the shelf) "Les Paul" to be had amazing build quality, humbuckers w/tone pot coil taps playability neck through design, not lightweight built like a rock. Very consistent instrument. Bat Ears shape was kinda odd as is the Revstar but... I want a revstar but I'll buy used to save some money but that's a personal problem right now not a comment on the rice point of the Yamaha Revstar Standard, about $800.00 USD. I'd love the Revstar Professional but that's way out of my range.
As per your request - I have a bunch of newer Les Paul's 2020 through 2022 I do not see any QA issues with them. I think my oldest are the 2011 and 2012 and quite honestly I think they are all great. I have become a big fan of Yamaha when I bough my fist Pacifica in GC 2015?. Now I have settled on the Pacifica 212 VFM and the Revstar RS620, I don't have any newer Yam models. I think both Yamaha's are fantastic! Newer Epiphone not so much and they are not transparent at all - hiding production from the public is shameful.😁
Buy everything,,,play everything,,,,and enjoy all the Instruments. Your touch is the same, it depends how it reacts to your gear. Not hard to tell its you John on any instrument great playing yet again.
Don't think you will regret it. I've got the dark merlot with the P90s, it's amazing. Apart from lowering the bridge a bit, it was pretty much perfect out of the box.
Great playing! Well, I was expecting this to be a comparison between a humbucker equipped Revstal and a Paul. That seems to be the configuration anybody looking for a "working man's Les Paul" would go for, no? Also, I may have missed it, but I didn't hear you mention price. You can get the high end Made in Japan Rev for 2000$, but the 800$ certainly seems up to any task you can throw at it. You can't find a decent Gibson for that price, even used. I think when all is said and done, the main thing the Gibson still has going for it is that it's so darn pretty.
Thanks for the comparison. Nicely done. I have an older LP Custom 1979 Kalamazoo model which I like very much weighing in at just under 9lbs. However, I did try a Revstar the other day in a music store. The $1000 Canadian Dollar Revstar was not that great (could have been the set up though), but the $2500 version was really nice. The fretboard was so nice. Just wondering which one you have? The expensive version or cheaper version?
Thanks for sharing! Both are awesome guitars! Would have liked to hear the comparison with humbuckers in both guitars, the Revstar is a modern guitar nonetheless both guitars are a joy to have.
I was wondering the same thing. That is if the Revstar was in the same ball park of a les Paul standard. I don’t think you can go wrong with either guitar. I would like to see standard with humbuckers and see how they compare. But, I almost always find my way back to telecaster. Great Video! Thanks John!
I like having a Les Paul because it's the sound on the records. But it would be frustrating to me as a primary guitar. I'd rather have a modern design, still yet to play a revstar but I do like my DGT a lot. As you get towards the mid 00s you start to lose the quality improvements that the 90s had. Quality today is... Oof. I can't live with their electronics and so I would have to factor a harness and pickups into the purchase price. Oh and completely unrelated but I just added the pink Suhr Mateus Asato SIG strat to my collection. I think you'd enjoy it but I do know Suhrs are hard to track down and probably impossible to borrow.
Gibson CS making the best guitars they ever have these days but the prices are disconnected from what you get. Those Murphy guitars are as much as a Bartlett or a Knaggs or Yaron and you're never gonna convince me that site unseen I should buy a Gibson over one of those
I went to a store and ask about the revstar...They told me when they first brought revstar in their store...the guitar didn't even need to adjust or set up anything... ready to play...i believe Yamaha is great company.
3 points i would make 1. For me between these, it is the LP all day every day. There is a midrange that the Revstar doesnt quite have (i get this is not exactly apples for apples with P90s and buckers) I would really like to try a Rev though and i expect i would really like it, but being of the vintage that grew up on a steady diet of Led Zep and the like from that era it just sounds and looks so cool. 2. John i cant recall if you have covered this on other vids, but does your LP have 50’s wiring or modern? i really think 50’s wiring offers a really good range of tones once you get used to how the controls interact, and then paired with perhaps some lower output PAFs would probably reduce some of the muddiness you mention, worth a look at ‘cause that LP of yours is killer. 3. Yes Gibson is still making some great guitars, sure they have made some really poor ‘marketing’ decisions in the last few years and became an easy (possibly somewhat deserved) target for haters (i’m sure the quality control complaints are not without some basis either) but i have a 2021 60’s Standard LP that straight out of the box is hands down one of the best playing guitars i’ve ever seen (maybe i got lucky?)
I like the revstar but everyone needs a Paul first. The fluid power and sustain is a defining sound of electric guitar and why so many go back to it. From Les to Jimmy to Al Di and beyond.
This may sound a bit naff, but I would not buy a top of the range Revstar over a Gibson, simply because of re-sale.. €1800 for a Yamaha is wayyyyy too steep. A Revstar Standard, however, I’d buy that all day over a Les Paul.
Both are beautiful sounding guitars. My pros and cons are: potential headstock break on Les Paul; set necks are expensive to repair; the Les Paul is a beautiful looking guitar, but the Revstar looks like a toy because of the bad color choice. If I had to pick between those two guitars I'd pick the Les Paul as a financial investment, and the Revstar for playing. My advice is Gibson should fix their headstock breaking problem once and for all. Yamaha should pick better paints colors/types so their guitars don't look cheap toys, when they are actually excellent guitars. Avoid guitars with set necks, as bolt on necks allow for easily fixing many playability issues at no cost. In the end, whatever floats your boat.
Tell that set neck avoidance thing to acoustic guitar players :))) But ditto on their color choices. They had cooler stuff going on with their 1st gen, especially the striped finishes.
@@picksalot1 Wasn't aware Taylor did that bolt thing. Still sucks for those who prefer Martin or most non travel or thinline acoustics though :p Well I also have neckthrough electrics, now having those break would not be nice.
What do you think would be better…I’m looking for a second guitar that would compliment my strat best. Been thinking Les Paul or the Revstar and every other day a 335 hahaha.
I would choose Revstar over LesPaul any day and every day. I played a lot of LPs and somehow I am not a great fan of it. LP has a beautiful warmer and fuller tone, but the instrument's weight makes it not playable for a long time. I do not want to pick up my LPs to play them because of the heavyweight. Revs solves that. In addition, the p90s are very underrated.
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I bought the Revstar standard HH two months ago. It is truly amazing. the neck, the sound, the feel, it checks all the boxes.
Odd choice to put SS frets on the middle model but not locking tuners. Perhaps an easy enough mod to make but even if they built the standard to a price point they could have stuck them on the professional model. Not the least because the professional model has little or nothing tangible to set it apart from the standard.
It would be more fair comparison if the Revstar was with humbuckers and not P90S, apart from that I think that the p90s compliment really nicely your style of playing, nice clarity and articulation :)
I got the Revstar with humbuckers... and it’s a game changer! Such a nice instrument!
Got my Revstar standard 2 weeks ago and cannot put it down. I have a couple much more expensive guitars and the Revstar holds up without a doubt. It’s an awesome guitar. I had the 502t for a couple weeks but returned it because I didn’t like the neck. The standard is phenomenal.
I came here to ask, if you already have put it down so far?
Can you tell me how the Beck profile is? I prefer thinner necks, prs pattern thin or fender modern C...is the revstar comporable?
@@seanmarkowitz4216my main guitar is an American professional II Stratocaster. My Revstar feels very comfortable and it reminds me of my PRS SE.
Props for that opening loop! Deceptively hard to do with beautiful touch and phrasing- awesome
+1 for Revstar Standard P90 comparison. It’s on my wish list.
Mine too bro
I got this guitar and I love it
i remember when the original revstars came out, there was this green one with p90’s at guitar center for a long time but everytime i went there i couldn’t put it down. it wasn’t even the high end model but it just felt and sounded excellent.
I have owned the RSP20CR for over 2 years now and it surpasses any LP I’ve ever owned. Beautifully crafted guitars.
i prefer yamaha, refresh the new style and bring new air. tired of Ferder and gibson "old school".
Agreed🎉
Fantastic playing bro , and a terrific review, revstar is just so versatile, and that cleaner tone from the p90 is just lovely, only problem in Australia is we can’t get stock after the initial release, patiently waiting for more stock to arrive , cheers from Australia 👍😎
Your problem is not limited to Australia. We can't get them here in the States, either.
Love love love this video.
Not sure about these things, but to me it would make better sense to compare a LES PAUL with P90s to a Revstar with P90s and a LES PAUL with Humbuckers with the Revstar with Humbuckers.
The Revstar with Humbuckers definitely has a warmer tone. There I said it. haha. My next guitar will probably be the Revstar with the Humbuckers. I just can't find one to try out. They are so popular that none of the stores have them on the walls.
Love your playing so smooth and melodic. Thanks for sharing video on Revstar. Considering purchasing one
I had to pause the video to say to you that WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A REVSTAR STANDARD P90s in Hot Merlot. :)
+1 RS Standard review would be cool. Thanks, great videos!
2:35 dude that's probably the best lead fuzz effect I've ever heard, what's in the chain? Love your sounds and playing.
Have a revstar standard with P90s, it's ridiculously good and addictive. For the money it's ridiculous I don't think anything compares. I have been tempted by the top tier but I'm not sure a couple of carbon fibre rods in the body are enough to justify the extra outlay. I think the P90s have become my favourite pickup. (I still love my Les Pauls though).
Did they ever say what the carbon fiber rods in the body are for??
@@ksharpe10 they did, it's supposedly something to do with resonance. 🤔
I would be interested in your take on the Standard Revstar vs. the Professional, both with P90's.
I second that. Would love to hear thoughts on if there are any significant differences between the two or just minor fit and finish.
Same here. Can’t afford the professional so am interested in how big a difference there is.
When I played them both side by side with Ross from yamaha, I can't say it was night and day - especially now I've found out that they're both Stainless frets...I'll try and sort a standard
@@johnnathancordy I guess they still apply more carefoul sourcing on the materials for their MIJ stuff, as well as that IRA treatment that's supposed to make them feel more broken in / relaxed / played. Pickups and hardware or electronics do not seem different, so it must be the overall materials quality and the craftmanship plus that spa treatment of theirs.
I too am insterested if you find some details since this time around the price gap is quite huge for what apparently isn't that much of a difference.
The indonesian made guitars are notorious for their often not quite dry wood and sometimes iffy finish colors and layers, but apart from the fact I've seen two Revstars with dead notes (G octave thereabouts on actually both) to me they seem more or less the same as PRS SE. On the other hand I've also seen dirt cheap older japonese guitars made of plywood that felt really better to play and hond than guitars ten times their price :) Who knows.
Urea vs Tusq nuts
I just bought the revstar standard p90 and i am blown away by the sound. I love it. The best guitar i ever have.
I think their are far more tones in the Revstar. You're Les Paul is a great sounding example. I'd take the Yamaha myself.
You can buy a P90 and a Humbucker for Les than the price of 1 Les Paul Standard
Yamaha, please make a revstar with a p90 in the neck and a humbucker in the bridge. Thanks.
Just get a twin humbucker model and slap in a humbucker sized P90. Even P-Rails with the special frame to select between humbucker series/parallel, single, p90 would work if you don't mind its look. OR get a p90 sized dimarzio super distortion (they have them) and slap it in a p90 revstar. Game over.
@@andreil1234 Yes and no. The sound is not totally the same, plus the aesthetic is a big part of it. Yamaha already makes at least 2 models of their Pacifica line in that same configuration, so it shouldn't be a stretch. It's not everyones cup of tea, but with multiple brands offering the soapbar/HB configuration, it must be popular enough.
I have thought the same thing ... I'd kind of like to hear it in their version first, but I have another guitar with that set up and I absolutely love that combination ... (On Gretsch, that's a "Duane Eddy style") ...
Would be v interested in your take on the standard revstar as that’s the best of the range I can get as a lefty
I’ve watched a couple of your vids and everything you play on that blue Revstar sounds absolutely mint!
It's a really lovely guitar!!
If I could have a Revstar with an ebony board and Lollar Imperial pickups that would be ideal… The humbuckers on my HH Revstar are pretty good though - low output, relatively clear: sort of halfway between those P90s and the Slash pickups. Lovely playing btw
I am in love with my Revstars. Never even considered a Les Paul. You don't need to buy the Japanese model. The Standard is fine. Looks-wise the Revstar is the coolest of any to me.
I've owned both. I think the Japanese made Revstar are worth it. Mine is a Crisp Gold one.
I've been wanting a p90s guitar for my next one, and I'm now officially gassing HARD for this Revstar Standard. Awesome comparison!
Did you give in yet?
Every time I watch these comparisons, I think you'd like the PRS CE24 a lot.
Very interesting you say the Rev sacrifices the in-between tones because for me the middle position is very important for quality funk tones & of course other rhythm styles. Great comparison dude they are both great guitars anyhow.
I meant the kind of sounds where you can turn down the neck pickup/treble pickup - the in between pickup options on the Rev are super useful - sorry I wasn't very clear with what I was saying!
@@johnnathancordy No problem dude I get yer, love ur channel by the way.
Congrats for the 100K ! And thx for the video. Both guitars are great, but i'm in love with the shape of the Revstar
Excellent, and so clearly presented, just the information I was looking for too. Many thanks Indeed John. Yamaha will need to settle up with You for all extra sales. Your playing demo's are quite something. Thanks Again
I have the Revstar Standard with P90s. Love it. Currently my favourite to play.
Im buying a Revstar but that Led Paul is an exceptional example. It sounds better than most I must say. Still the Revstar is calling me. They also make it with Humbuckers such may have been a better comparispn. Nice playing
I have actually played the two side by side.. very recently. Limited example (single sample) but the 2018 Revstar 620 (mine) build quality is better overall whereas the 2022 Gibson Standard 60s tone is better overall. The 61 Burstbucker pickups in the LP are just so dang sweet. Neither overreach the other by much in any category except price. I wound up sending the LP back for a few very minor quality issues. Which is the 2nd one to be returned, the other being a 2016 Standard. I had high hopes they would be keepers.
Sounds like putting new pickups into the yamaha is the way to go!
@@martyshwaartz971 - had the same thought but a set of 61 Burstbuckers are really pricey and the Yamaha humbuckers are actually quite nice, just different. So not gonna go there.
The 2022 Revstar Standard and Pro have completely different pickups, neck, and focus switch than the 2018 models. Not sure, does the 2018 even have a 5-way switch? Either way I don't remember it having the delayed phasing at positions 2 and 4.
The 2022's are really a different animal, and especially in tonality than the 2018.
@@mikeapplegate5845 - That’s good to hear, but the 1st gen is really a fine “animal” in it’s own right. Yes, the 1st gens do have 3 way switches.
@@martyshwaartz971 That's right! I put a set of Lollar Imperial in my Revstar 620. Even with this mod, the Revstar option is in the price range of a Les Paul... Studio or Tribute.
The clarity of the Revstar kicks the Les Paul's behind in my opinion. yes, P90s vs Humbuckers of course...
Nice presentation. Great info. Nice playing. Thank you. 🌞
Just bought one. I just heard way too many good things about it. There was one left in stock and every website I checked they wouldn’t be in stock until December so I just grabbed it. It was the black model.
Mine Revstar comes tommorow! PUMPED!
Yes John..... Please review the newest Revstar Standard P90 model. Cheers.
Your Les Paul sounds better when you played the two next to each other. The LP sounded warmer with better note bloom. With that said, I really want to get a Revstar to add to my collection because I already have some LPs. You make both sound extremely great!
Really nailed that description, couldn’t agree more. I love both, this Yamaha definitely has a unique sound to it. Whereas the Gibson is just so iconic and familiar
I think this comparision is really hard though since it's not the humbucker rebstar he's comparing the Les Paul with. P99s are always more pockey.
Its not that the PL is better, its that you prefer the sound of the humbuckers.
Sounds like you believe in Snake oil. These are two completely different pickups lol.
Nice playing dude…I bought the sunset burst p90, incredible guitar…probably overall the best guitar I own…those pickups are so damn punchy and clear…there’s SO many sick tones in this this..best neck I’ve ever played too…EVERY neck should be satin
I’m still waiting for mine exactly the same spec can’t wait …
Did you get the standard or professional?
I just bought a Revstar and am waiting for it to show up. My steady girlfriend is my Gibson Les Paul Custom Axcess w Floyd Rose , I don't think she will get too jealous if I play around with the Revstar . The Axcess is built to give axcess to the higher notes and with the Silver Burst it pretty much rules my entire collection , BUT I still play the others a lot . The Revstar with the stripes got my eye and Sweetwater said the Revstar will resemble my Les Paul .
You have such a nice touch with the Revstar... sounds wonderful
Dude! You’ve got the high end Japanese made RevStar Pro to compare that Gibson to. There is no comparison! Gibson could never match the sheer quality of a Japanese made Yamaha because even their American made LPs quality has turned to shit over the last 20yrs! Gibson has got to the point where they charge you way more for way less in return!
FWIW, my 2017 Classic T Les Paul was/is flawless, great QC, frets etc. I definitely agree the Revstar feels more like playing an LP, but with advantages of an SG. I don't think you sacrifice in between tones on the Revstar. Opposite in fact.
Great video, would love to see a Revstar Standard HH vs. an Epiphone/LP Tribute.
Great comparison video showcasing how these guitars can sound when played by someone with exceptional skills.
Just returned the RSS02t in Sunset Burst for a RSS20 in Flash Green. I like the humbuckers more, even though the Sunset Burst and the tailpiece on the 02T were totally pissa.
I had an issue that I fixed with the RSS20; The signal was completely cutting out intermittently. It turned out to be that the factory used shielding paint in the tight output jack hole and because it's so tight in there, if the jack isn't positioned just right on the jack plate, the signal can short out on the paint (that's why I hate shielding paint). I immediately threw out the cheap Korean single-sprung jack, removed what shielding paint I could with sandpaper, lined the jack hole with electrical tape and installed a Switchcraft #11 jack. I used heat shrink on the solder connections. Problem solved.
Helpful analysis and brilliant playing!
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video. Now the big question: which rev do I get... p90s or humbucker? Could be a nice comparison to do for your next video 😉
Yes, would love to hear your comparison of the P90 vs Humbucker Revstars in a Jazz context.
My dilemma as well ... I think the real question is "which one should I get FIRST?!"
Since I got a Revstar Element (P90s) I couldn't use my Gibson LP (Tribute 70s) or my Fender Strat anymore. It became my MAIN guitar
Some really nice playing on this video, Good information. Try a p90 les paul and or a SG with p90's.
After playing my brother in law's Gibson SG I wanted a new humbucker guitar and after watching many reviews about the Revstar Standard I went ahead and bought one with the humbuckers. The fit and finish is great however my feelings about the sound are still pending. The Revstar sounds somehow more robotic than the Les Paul's creamy heavy tones. Neither guitar sounds muddy if the pickup height is set correctly. If you are trying to get a Les Paul sound out of the Revstar I haven't found it. But that doesn't mean it isn't a great playing guitar and a better feeling guitar than the Les Paul. The gibson Les Paul is legendary for a reason, that classic rich dark creamy rock sound only seems to come from some Les Paul's if you are lucky enough to get a good one. I am sure I will find a tone that I like on my Revstar with more messing around.
Just got myself a Gibson Les Paul Standard 60s Faded which I like very much. I prefer the satin finish and the sound of the 60s Burstbucker over that of the 50s Burstbucker 1 and 2; it is much clearer and thus gives you more options with the tone controls. This being said, I would never buy a Gibson without trying it first, even though the quality control is supposedly better nowadays. I do love my new Les Paul, but I must admit that the attention to detail is lacking compared to other less costly instruments like my Godin Summit Classic Convertible Gold HG; it is night and day. For the same attention to detail, would I need to spend 5K for a Custom Shop or more for a Murphy Lab? It does not make any sense. I would not be surprised at all if the Yamaha Revstar was superior in terms of quality and consistency, even the Standard model.
Revstar is amazing but it's not a Les Paul, for better or worse 😂 That said with some 70+ years between designs the Revstar does boast some fantastic features and the perfect blend of modern against traditional - For the price you can't beat the Revstar! I still want a Les Paul more though 😝
Would be interesting to hear the Revstar against a Les Paul Special. I was considering the Gibson Tribute P90 Special and the Revstar standard, I went with the Gibson because they were in stock but still interested in the Yamaha. That said the Gibson is great, it has the clarity and lighter weight than a full fat LP, and would be closer to the Revstar, having P90's.
Same here!
I have the RSP20, Excellent guitar... I love it. This guitar is a Tone Monster through a tube amp. ( I have Blackstar Studios, the EL34 and the 6L6 models.)
I have a Les Paul Tribute with missing Link Audio pick ups in it, and I love the Tribute with those PU's installed. A different, warmer Tone Monster through the same tube amps.
Both of your guitars sounded amazing (great playing) but I kinda liked the tones from the Les Paul a tad bit better. I like warmer tones though.
Still, I plan on adding one of the Standard P90 Revstars to my lil collection.
I think the Yamaha seems exceptional for the money but I prefer the Gibson’s two tones and volumes approach to maximise flexibility and control compared with passive boost and ‘in between’ positions.
Finally people are coming round to revstars ❤
No guitar better for the budget.
Definitely the les paul. They have definitely had problems but I have a 2021 LP special and it is solid. The sound of a les paul. I seen the doobie brothers a while back. One had a strat and the other a les paul. They both did solos. Everyone kind of sat there through the strat solo. As soon as that guy stepped up with the les paul everyone was immediately on their feet and cheering. It just blows through the mix with a massive sound
The RS neck is a little chunkier than the LP 60s.
The late '70/80s Yamaha SB2000was for me the best (off the shelf) "Les Paul" to be had amazing build quality, humbuckers w/tone pot coil taps playability neck through design, not lightweight built like a rock. Very consistent instrument. Bat Ears shape was kinda odd as is the Revstar but... I want a revstar but I'll buy used to save some money but that's a personal problem right now not a comment on the rice point of the Yamaha Revstar Standard, about $800.00 USD. I'd love the Revstar Professional but that's way out of my range.
As per your request - I have a bunch of newer Les Paul's 2020 through 2022 I do not see any QA issues with them. I think my oldest are the 2011 and 2012 and quite honestly I think they are all great. I have become a big fan of Yamaha when I bough my fist Pacifica in GC 2015?. Now I have settled on the Pacifica 212 VFM and the Revstar RS620, I don't have any newer Yam models. I think both Yamaha's are fantastic! Newer Epiphone not so much and they are not transparent at all - hiding production from the public is shameful.😁
I have two revstars standards, one hamburgers, the other p90's! Yamaha knocked it outta the park spectacularly!
Very tastful playing - thanks!
I have a GIbson LP from 1969 (not a re-issue) and three Revtars.
That is all you need to know.
Buy everything,,,play everything,,,,and enjoy all the Instruments. Your touch is the same, it depends how it reacts to your gear. Not hard to tell its you John on any instrument great playing yet again.
Just buy both, but the Tele is best
Haha! Preach it bro.
Would be very interested to hear your thoughts on a Revstar Standard as I have one on order.
With humbuckers which are low ish output apparently and interesting switching with passive boost.
Don't think you will regret it. I've got the dark merlot with the P90s, it's amazing. Apart from lowering the bridge a bit, it was pretty much perfect out of the box.
Yamaha should replace the tone push/pull with a concentric tone control so you could separately adjust the tone on both pickups.
I do love your playing.
Great playing! Well, I was expecting this to be a comparison between a humbucker equipped Revstal and a Paul. That seems to be the configuration anybody looking for a "working man's Les Paul" would go for, no? Also, I may have missed it, but I didn't hear you mention price. You can get the high end Made in Japan Rev for 2000$, but the 800$ certainly seems up to any task you can throw at it. You can't find a decent Gibson for that price, even used. I think when all is said and done, the main thing the Gibson still has going for it is that it's so darn pretty.
Damn- nice playing! That Revstar is sweet.
Hey John, try a Godin Convertible if you get the chance. VERY versatile Les Paul-ish axe.
did you changed something in the preset between the two guitars in the comparison?? very beautiful thank u
the design of the Revstar is awesome!
Thanks for the comparison. Nicely done. I have an older LP Custom 1979 Kalamazoo model which I like very much weighing in at just under 9lbs. However, I did try a Revstar the other day in a music store. The $1000 Canadian Dollar Revstar was not that great (could have been the set up though), but the $2500 version was really nice. The fretboard was so nice. Just wondering which one you have? The expensive version or cheaper version?
Thanks for sharing! Both are awesome guitars! Would have liked to hear the comparison with humbuckers in both guitars, the Revstar is a modern guitar nonetheless both guitars are a joy to have.
I was wondering the same thing. That is if the Revstar was in the same ball park of a les Paul standard. I don’t think you can go wrong with either guitar. I would like to see standard with humbuckers and see how they compare. But, I almost always find my way back to telecaster. Great Video! Thanks John!
I like having a Les Paul because it's the sound on the records. But it would be frustrating to me as a primary guitar. I'd rather have a modern design, still yet to play a revstar but I do like my DGT a lot. As you get towards the mid 00s you start to lose the quality improvements that the 90s had. Quality today is... Oof. I can't live with their electronics and so I would have to factor a harness and pickups into the purchase price. Oh and completely unrelated but I just added the pink Suhr Mateus Asato SIG strat to my collection. I think you'd enjoy it but I do know Suhrs are hard to track down and probably impossible to borrow.
Gibson CS making the best guitars they ever have these days but the prices are disconnected from what you get. Those Murphy guitars are as much as a Bartlett or a Knaggs or Yaron and you're never gonna convince me that site unseen I should buy a Gibson over one of those
I went to a store and ask about the revstar...They told me when they first brought revstar in their store...the guitar didn't even need to adjust or set up anything... ready to play...i believe Yamaha is great company.
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LP sounds better in this video to my opinion
3 points i would make
1. For me between these, it is the LP all day every day. There is a midrange that the Revstar doesnt quite have (i get this is not exactly apples for apples with P90s and buckers) I would really like to try a Rev though and i expect i would really like it, but being of the vintage that grew up on a steady diet of Led Zep and the like from that era it just sounds and looks so cool.
2. John i cant recall if you have covered this on other vids, but does your LP have 50’s wiring or modern? i really think 50’s wiring offers a really good range of tones once you get used to how the controls interact, and then paired with perhaps some lower output PAFs would probably reduce some of the muddiness you mention, worth a look at ‘cause that LP of yours is killer.
3. Yes Gibson is still making some great guitars, sure they have made some really poor ‘marketing’ decisions in the last few years and became an easy (possibly somewhat deserved) target for haters (i’m sure the quality control complaints are not without some basis either) but i have a 2021 60’s Standard LP that straight out of the box is hands down one of the best playing guitars i’ve ever seen (maybe i got lucky?)
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I like the revstar but everyone needs a Paul first. The fluid power and sustain is a defining sound of electric guitar and why so many go back to it. From Les to Jimmy to Al Di and beyond.
Love a LP but I say 3 cheers for Revstar Pro
The yamaha just screams beauty in highs ! Get it high baby. Instant choice for the yam for once 👍
SG special w p-90 be great comparison w revstars
Revstar sounds great. They can cover a lot of ground.
Should of played the rev with humbunkers for a fair comp.
This may sound a bit naff, but I would not buy a top of the range Revstar over a Gibson, simply because of re-sale.. €1800 for a Yamaha is wayyyyy too steep. A Revstar Standard, however, I’d buy that all day over a Les Paul.
Both are beautiful sounding guitars. My pros and cons are: potential headstock break on Les Paul; set necks are expensive to repair; the Les Paul is a beautiful looking guitar, but the Revstar looks like a toy because of the bad color choice. If I had to pick between those two guitars I'd pick the Les Paul as a financial investment, and the Revstar for playing.
My advice is Gibson should fix their headstock breaking problem once and for all. Yamaha should pick better paints colors/types so their guitars don't look cheap toys, when they are actually excellent guitars. Avoid guitars with set necks, as bolt on necks allow for easily fixing many playability issues at no cost. In the end, whatever floats your boat.
Tell that set neck avoidance thing to acoustic guitar players :)))
But ditto on their color choices. They had cooler stuff going on with their 1st gen, especially the striped finishes.
@@andreil1234 Yeah, at least Taylor Guitars has paid attention. 😉
@@picksalot1 Wasn't aware Taylor did that bolt thing. Still sucks for those who prefer Martin or most non travel or thinline acoustics though :p
Well I also have neckthrough electrics, now having those break would not be nice.
Do you guys usually throw your guitars out of moving vehicles?
@@valebliz No need to do that. FedEx and UPS will do it for free before delivering your guitar, if the Airlines hasn't already done it for you. 🤭
Thanks for finally doing a comparison of these two. It’s pretty hard not to see the quality of the Rev. How would it compare to a 59 Epiphone?
Rev's are a way superior in term of wood, built, microphone. Rev beat the the ground. THEY ARE ALSO SUPERIOR TO FENDERS
I die to read the dumb things guitar aficionados have to say. It is comedy gold!
NIce opening/closing Space Rock jam man.
The modeller tends to make them all sound a little generic in terms of sight unseen sound.
What do you think would be better…I’m looking for a second guitar that would compliment my strat best. Been thinking Les Paul or the Revstar and every other day a 335 hahaha.
I’m in between revstar humbucker or p90.. do the p90 have 60cycle hum noise issue as everybody talk about?
very good comparasion. Which revstar model is that ?
P90 ! are they noiseless ?????
nope, but they do have 3 noise canceling switch positions where the hum is mostly gone.
I would choose Revstar over LesPaul any day and every day.
I played a lot of LPs and somehow I am not a great fan of it.
LP has a beautiful warmer and fuller tone, but the instrument's weight makes it not playable for a long time.
I do not want to pick up my LPs to play them because of the heavyweight.
Revs solves that. In addition, the p90s are very underrated.