Thanks for the analysis. I went for the Panasonic G100. Interchangeable lenses, external mic input, separate viewfinder, plus the flip out screen WITH touch controls on the screen, and longer battery life.
I am thinking the same for the compactness of G100, the big EVF and ability to change lenses, though my objective is photography. I might get a small prime and the 12-35 f2.8
After seeing the better video image quality of the G100 in many parts of this video demo, I agree the Panasonic G100 is the best of the 3. The iphone and ZV-1 did not look good in some parts of this review, especially the lower the light went.)
And it's a lot better than it gets credit for. Only real downside is the 2160p crop. If you want quality 2160p, you really need to look at a different price point. For quality 1080p, it's an excellent camera.
@@BillyBobDingledorfall I use is 1080 p 60 anyways especially for streaming and it’s great on a tripod because you could disable the stabilizer and gets rid of all crop at 1080 in 4k it crops no matter what so that’s kinda whack
You guys are crazy if you thought the ZV1's audio was better than the G100. Hell, even its auto setting (which i'm sure it was on since you didnt bother to show its other ones) outperformed the ZV1 by miles.
The g100 is the the most flexible of all the cameras presented here with greater lens selection and for options for audio. The Panasonic and iPhone will be the most reliable cameras as the zv pop out lens system is Significant future failure point. The G100 was designed as a 1080 optimized video camera and stills camera. V-logging does not require 4K video as this video seems to suggest. Most people watch videos on portable devices and streaming to these devices is not done in 4K there’s no reason for it which is why the Panasonic is optimized for 1080. Additionally it does appear that the Panasonic uses the 4K signal and down samples it to 1080 which provides a higher quality video sample similar to what a few years ago cinema cameras like that Canon C 100 used to do. I kind of feel like the heavy 4K crop on the Panasonic was outlined as a negative whereas there was no or little mention of the 1080 video it provides which is an unbalanced review. I’m pretty sure the old iPhone Xr it was also not shot in 4K which is not featured here. And the Sony is also cropped 4K which makes for a similarly too tight for unusable vlogging look. Simply the 4K modes of the Sony and Panasonic are used to provide stabilization for 1080 video. From the manufacturer’s perspective they opted to allow access to 4K for filming because that’s what people are assessing as a value option for purchase and called it feature set. However the down sampling is what is used to provide electronic stabilization without more expensive and mechanical hardware. They understand that full readout 4K is not necessary for intended application. I get that they trying to do it out of the box comparison with these three cameras but once you start down the road of filming then you’ll quickly see that the limitations of the Zv1. With the Sony there are no options outside of what you purchased in the first place. With the Panasonic you can add ultra wide angles and telephoto lenses from mid range to high quality. When you’re buying a camera you’re buying a platform. The platform can be the cell phone which has limitations to the built in cameras and some external mic options to full cinema cameras. The point-and-shoot camera style of the Sony has limitations of a single lens system with no adaptability. The Panasonic has the most flexible choice for focal lengths. The Panasonic is also a really great stills camera. Going back to the platform argument, the ZV is so limited it’s really hard to justify other than perhaps it’s size This video doesn’t speak to workflow at all, which is the other half of the equation. Which camera offers the fastest or easiest import to an NLE, what requires the least amount of post processing to I can get my videos out to you tube. Using the iPhone and an NLE is not necessarily the easiest of tasks if you’re not using something like final cut pro. But more importantly that a lot of people want to edit their videos on portable devices , laptops and tablets, but as you start getting into 4K video for 720 / 1080 P delivery typically, you’re just using a lot of computing power and hard drive space for no real gain. I honestly think that this review should have been done by comparing the 1080 output, done with the cameras being hand held and on sticks from an arm’s-length distance as a vlog would do. The review could also have included some narration from behind the camera while filming something and you would quickly see that the rear facing mic on the Panasonic is very good idea. After watching a lot of RUclips videos on various cameras over the years I think I’m just a little frustrated sometimes about the lack of objectivity that goes into these types of reviews. There’s a lot of talk about hardware but not the implications of utilization of the hardware in the day-to-day tasks that they are meant to be used for. There are reasons why hardware is designed the way that it is and features or lack of features are often looked at as a negative when compared to another device whereas that feature may not have added any real value whatsoever. If the zv1 offered 6k would that be better? If the Panasonic offered ibis would it be better? Well 6k will kill your battery and drive space, while ibis increases the size, weight and decreases battery life. Can it be done, yes... but are these features adding real value to the task at hand. Tangental feature sets are a case study in consumer and industrial design. More is not always better.
Many good points. This review was not done well. For example, did they really listen to the audio output? The G100 outperformed the others by a mile overall. Oh well, no surprise. This is why I don't subscribe to DPReview.
When it is all said and done, and on RUclips, the Panasonic looks the best to me. I also thought the audio sounded better than the Sony. Thank you for doing this comparison!
I actually think G100 is quite better in almost every regard from both, but it require other lenses then the kit one, it is not built for just one. And the autofocus was improved as you said. And it is the biggest sensor. But it can also do close and far object. And the stablilization if you lower the level of it will have less crop, the highest setting is for the back mic and you behind the camera, but the lower one is comparable with the other 2 and give you wider view, and with another lense it can give you even more. And the sound is unfair, because ZV1 is with in the box this fur, but if you add it to the panasonic g100 will sound much more comparable and very close to Sony. So I think with some smart choices of lenses, fur, and tweaking of the profiles in the camera Panasonic can be easily the winner...
G100 sounds much natural too me where ZV-1 sounds very thin and muffled, like you'd hear underwater recorded sound. Also I'd prefer G100 SOOC colour than ZV-1.
Personally after reviewing these video samples I would put the winner as the Panasonic G100. Why? It clearly has superior video "image quality" over the other 2 cameras which have smaller sensors. Also, not all vloggers have to shoot at 4K or want to. You could easily vlog at 1080P at 30 frames. Sure in some areas of this video, the others are better in use, but in the end, the image quality of the m43 sensor of G100 wins. If walking with the G100 keep in 1080P, and use stabilizers at 30 fps, but don't walk as fast and video is fine. Some creators capture in 1080P then after their final edit, they uprez to 4K before posting on RUclips. Some only post at 1080P. For the low cost of a G100 in this price range, is it in my view better for vlogging over these other 2. (However, if you going to a higher price, you might consider Sony ZV-E10 or Nikon z30 or Canon R10 as alternatives with larger APSC sensors. Note, that the lenses get larger the bigger sensor you go).
I’m fairly sure they were taken with the front-facing selfie camera. Don’t forget there is a far superior camera with a much larger sensor on the back of the iPhone. Also, don’t forget you can purchase a $5 pro video app to get complete control over frame rate, bitrate, audio, stabilisation, etc.
Unfortunately I think most people don't even notice it and want that. I mean a few of the most downloaded apps sole purpose is to make your skin and face look as unnatural as possible. There are music videos with 200k$+ budget shot on Arris and Reds which get completely destroyed in post production by skin smoothing. Watch like any Kpop MV. Videos like Blackpinks Du-Du-Du have super expensive makeup artists yet they decide it's not enough and they gotta obliterate anything that resembles human skin. Influencers in china already started using special makeup that raises contrast on their face so the filters work better for their livestreams (look at South China Morning Posts "Live-streamers use scary make-up to look perfect on camera"). We've reached a point where a huge amount of people expect their camera to make them look like that.
@@KiinaSu it's a big part in many asian cultures, gaining popularity in the US, BUT not really accepted in most other places. Apple made the camera work like this without the option for a more Natural look by choice, to cater especially to the chinese market, their most important target.
The iPhone was muffled as hell, absolutely should have come last. The Panasonic was richer than the Sony but not as good at eliminating wind noise so it's a bit of a toss up between those two.
2021 HOLIDAYS UPDATE: US $648 at B&H for the Panny G100 with lens and tripod grip kit. Use standard digital, plus lens stabilization in either 4K or 1080p, update the firmware, and it will blow the other two into the weeds. Later you can add a Laowa 7.5mm f/2 to your kit (it's manual focus, but the new version connects electronically for aperture control) for all the wide angle loveliness you'll ever need. Oh, and the OZO audio is extremely versatile, just like the rest of this camera's features. Bad job on this one DPReview.
Lol to me panasnic is first. You can do any lense you want. Phones cant do it and sony cant do it. For non beginners this is the killing feature.panasonic also has the biggest sensor , better picture quality. Very strange comparison i disagree with most you said. But at least you make i phone users feel better about their crappy phones😂 no one who is a little bit serious about vlogging would chose a phone over the panasonic
tell me did the G100 Af improved? it seems great :) I so wanna buy this camera... I am afraid about the AF though, on the other G100 DPreview it seemed so bad:( Thanks :)
I disagree. The Lumix only cuts with full stabilization, there are other options. It also has a mic input like the Sony and they don't even mention it. It can record the sound from behind for when you explain something that you are recording and they don't mention it either. In order to ignore its main advantage, the lenses, they say it is a test of what is in the box. ETC.
This was terrible. Your rankings didn't match your samples. The biggest example was your audio rankings. In your audio examples, it was a bit difficult to tell. In all your other examples, the Panasonic sounded best.
Hard to understand the logic behind this review. The entire purpose of the interchangeable lens and mic input is that you can extend the capabilities beyond, your favorite phrase, "what is in the box". This is like me comparing a computer with a fixed graphic card to one that is upgradable and incorrectly thinking the fixed graphic card is better. The Panasonic can grow with you as your capabilities improve, the Sony gets sold on eBay.
I think the wider the focal length, the more difficult is to pack with a large aperture. 24mm seems tight, but for me its better choice for general video shooting
I feel like you should have also included the canon m200, Sony a5100, and fuji xt200. My opinion is that if someone is going to spend the money to upgrade from their phone they should really consider an interchangeable lens system that will allow them to upgrade to better glass in the future.
i listened this video with a good headphone and i need to be agree with them, Panasonic's is thin and doesn't have much body and picking a lot of detail from environment.
Absolutely Lumix G100 with all its capabilities checked all boxes! Compact, lightweight, flexible lenses, natural color science, EVF, nice sound, fully touchscreen, pretty decent AF, nice looking menus and easy to operate, design looks pro. I don't need 4K, why so underrated?
Out of the box the Panasonic is an interchangeable lens camera. Easy to put on lenses from fisheye to telephoto. There are plenty of fast lenses available at f1.4, f1.2, and f0.95. Restricting the test to just the kit lens is hobbling the Panasonic in regards to where it shines. Changing lenses makes the Panasonic the best of the 3 in low light, and makes it the best for a wide view. This is an out of the box capability.
Well, it is pretty fair if you look at pricing though, plus do you want to put some honking fast glass on it and still use it for vlogging around town? ( I have owned most of the fastest glass in MFT, and it is fantastic, but expensive and heavy). In terms of portability the ZV-1 and Iphone simply will beat the G100, even with the kit lens. PS, I now use the ZV-1 for carrying around, webcam etc, and Panasonic S1R for my most important stuff ;)
@@tosvus I like the ZV-1 for on tripod product shooting, but handheld outside, especially after dark, it is a terrible camera. I cannot get sharp photographs hand held at night, whereas both the Panasonic G9 or Olympus EM-1 III are fantastic for shooting hand held after dark. I like the ZV-1, but am painfully aware of its limitations as well as its strengths. I think that while buying lenses costs extra, it can be done slowly according to affordability, and the vast creative and practical possibilities it opens up is worth it.
@@artistjoh agreed, though if anyone plans to expand their lens lineup, I would much rather have them consider G90/95 or even better G9 (which I used to own and you also mention) if they can find a good price. Well worth some extra money over the G100. I find good ibis is key for mft cameras.
I have to disagree with a lot. First, why the hell 4k? Use 1080p on the g100 and upacale, it will still be miles better tham the iphone. Audio was also strange... Ergonomics? What is it, right?
The fact that the lens is fixed and NOT wide enough for vlogging, makes this Sony no-go from the very start. It's not even 24mm equivalent, more like 26.
Its zoom lens, and i think the focal length its better choice for general video shooting, wider lens usually doesnt have large aperture. If wide lens is priority i think go pro hero 8 might be a better choice for vlogging
I second that. And the Sony colors are horrible on this video! On the other hand, I got an iPhone XR, and while it is very limited as a video camera, the colors I get with good lighting are honestly much better than what I see here.
If you stick a small mirror to the back of the iPhone, you can use the much better rear camera to film yourself. If you can see your reflection in the mirror, you’ll be correctly framed.
Sorry, that iPhone's audio wasn't good. It might have been richer, but it sounds really weird and gritty and tunnel-y. It sounds like there's some block in the mid-highs missing, making it sound muffled. Not that the Sony or Panasonic were all that good, either.
V and S log should NOT be considered “out of the box” bcs you’ll be needing additional hardware and software. Using logs is like using filters or better lenses! Be fair guys don’t fool newbies.
@@josecolon8143 I mean you can literally download log to rec709 LUTs or premade color grades, your claim that you need "additional hardware and software" is a total joke
Btw through my TV sound bar the iPhone sounded bloody terrible, like seriously is this channel just trolling or sponsored by apple? Honestly the iPhone sounds crap, stating the iPhone sounds better can seriously damage your reputation I mean really!. So no offence it sounds idiotic to suggest the iPhone sounds better than the two cameras especially the Sony!. It actually makes me laugh genuinely!.
I think I know what this video was trying to do, be a showcase for some "new" (iphone xr ain't exactly new or even the best cell phone for vlogging) products that are relatively different from one another, but the underlying premise is quite silly, not everyone has a iphone sitting in their pocket, even if everyone did have an iphone in their pocket, does anyone want to watch more vlogs done on iphones or point n shoot cameras? The video should have been titled "which device to get the least awful, but still terrible looking content on the internet as easily as possible that no one is gonna bother watching", none of these are the best vlogging tools in this price range (fuji x-t200? Panasonic G7?) and the hosts probably know that, heaven forbid they do a "best vlogging cameras you can get second hand on ebay, with enough leftover for a decent lens"
Autofocus doesn't work, 4K is cropped, no stabilization at all and photo quality is destroyed by shutter shock. It is cheap, it has 4K but thats where pros of this camera ends. I still have G7 on shelf, because thats the first camera I bought with my money and I have a lot of memories with it, but I wouldnt recommend it to anyone. Save up for G85 and you will get magnesium body, weather sealing, very good IBIS, no shutter shock, more FPS in continuous photo mod,e 2x bigger buffer, faster UHS interface, SD card slot on right instead of bottom, slightly larger EVF magnification and electronic stabilization option. Still I probably forgot about many other G85 advantages. Or you can get GX80 which at least in my country is the same price as G7, but it has IBIS.
@@piotrplenzler3519 It is relative. I've watched many videos record with the G7 and they are great. Of course the G85 is cool, but to start the G7 is fabulous.
@@piotrplenzler3519 4k is cropped. No one cares for vlogging. No stabilization. That is not true. I've never experienced shutter shock. Anything else? PS.. Best doesn't mean perfect.
@@LiveWellUkraine GX8, GX80 and GX9 has Dual IS G80, G90, G9, GH5 has Dual I.S. 2 G7 DOESN'T have ANY stabilization, just Google "Dual I.S. / Dual I.S.2" and go to Panasonic site - where do you see mention of G7?
Guys I have to compliment you and the outstanding way you put together videos all these years, you don't talk too much fluff wasting viewers time, you don't sit at a table the whole video, for every subject you mive to a different location for eye relief of viewers. You use just enough comedy while taking the review serious and are fair. I've learned some of this for my channel if I'm honest. Much respect.
Out of the box is such a stupid limitation, as in real life no-one is sticking to Out of the box. Get the Panasonic, slap a cheap Chinese 7.5mm wide angle lens on it and it will be the best vlogging camera from this bunch.
Andreas Buder take it easy, just saying the M50 isn’t all that either. All the cameras in this price segment have their issues. The M50’s 4K focus is terrible and a much bigger crop than the Pana. Both cameras have full sensor in full HD, and high frame rate AF on the Pana is pretty reliable. 4K24p is where it struggles
@@walrusgumboot no worry, I did not take any offence. I just see the M50 (several years old) still ahead of today’s offerings at that price point. What in and of itself is kind of confusing.
I think you forgot the ZV1 is unlimited recording. Phone video makes your skin look like you are a waxed figure. Yuck. I want the S1H video quality in a ZV1 body. any questions?
in iphone 12 era (dpreview shows off an IPHONE XR) seems at least you should use 11 instead althrough it is a old tech, but 11 has much more more better audio and video vs the XR
I just can't find videos about cameras shooting videos, only vlogging. I'm doing hiking videos (walking with gimbal). Not GoPro. I'm not swimming, running, cycling... What's the best camera for just making videos? Make awesome video with great stabilisation, 4k at 60fps, USB-C connector, can make even great photos? Please help. So many cameras out there.
And yet, if most of the people here were asked: What camera out of these 3 would you pick? Almost all would say Panasonic, for the mount. I get the comparison with out of the box things, but then you can say: On iphone, you can edit your videos, and share them. If you are spending that much money on vlogging, you are at least semi-serious. And out of the box is not how they would use the cameras.
In the real world, people in the Apple Ecosystem tend to be all Apple all the time (they've drunk the Kool-Aid). I can use my Apple Watch 5 as both a viewfinder and a remote trigger for my iPhone XS-not an option available with either Sony or Panasonic. Because of this I don't need to always have the camera in my hand-I can be more creative with composition. Also my Watch 5 has a built-in mic, obviating the need to stay close the the camera to record sound. With a smart-phone you can do your editing, using an app, with your phone. No need to rush home to your iMac, before airing. Another smart-phone plus is the ability to stream live. My iPhone XS has an IP68 water resistance rating (1 meter for 30 minuets), letting me sing and dance in the rain if I feel the urge ;-). Whats not to like 8-)
The image quality of the iPhone is awful. (and i'm just watching this in a 24 FHD display) Every thing lacks detail, specially comapred to the ZV1. and the skin looks like porcelain, not in the good way. I guess in my phone the image would be more than acceptable, but even an ipad would be big enough to notice the blurriness. (I still prefer the oversharpened image of the ZV1)
There's actually something VERY strange with the iPhone stabilization. Does not look smooth, and feels like some weird frame rate and flicker when you look at your face during that clip 10:35 .
The audio testing is so dumb to choose iphone at 1 place ,do you even heard the quality of the iPhone clip! It's so compressed like clip that's so unfair and wrong review
Uh was the XR chosen because of price point? Because there are newer and better iPhones out there... yes the 11pro line is much more expensive though. Not sure if the base 11 is identical to the XR though.
The iPhone 11 is a big improvement over the Xr, so I’m sure it would do even better with the competition. Also, is it or the Sony video looks very flat and pale. Chris looks like a corpse 💀
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The potential of the g100 is much greater. Evf, mic input, interchangeable lenses. Makes a much better video/photo hybrid shooter.
I thought the audio of the G100 was much better than the other two. I don't understand why it came third!
same
Thanks for the analysis. I went for the Panasonic G100. Interchangeable lenses, external mic input, separate viewfinder, plus the flip out screen WITH touch controls on the screen, and longer battery life.
I am thinking the same for the compactness of G100, the big EVF and ability to change lenses, though my objective is photography. I might get a small prime and the 12-35 f2.8
After seeing the better video image quality of the G100 in many parts of this video demo, I agree the Panasonic G100 is the best of the 3. The iphone and ZV-1 did not look good in some parts of this review, especially the lower the light went.)
And it's a lot better than it gets credit for. Only real downside is the 2160p crop. If you want quality 2160p, you really need to look at a different price point. For quality 1080p, it's an excellent camera.
@@BillyBobDingledorfall I use is 1080 p 60 anyways especially for streaming and it’s great on a tripod because you could disable the stabilizer and gets rid of all crop at 1080 in 4k it crops no matter what so that’s kinda whack
You guys are crazy if you thought the ZV1's audio was better than the G100. Hell, even its auto setting (which i'm sure it was on since you didnt bother to show its other ones) outperformed the ZV1 by miles.
Panasonic G100 quality looking ❤️😍🤩
The g100 is the the most flexible of all the cameras presented here with greater lens selection and for options for audio.
The Panasonic and iPhone will be the most reliable cameras as the zv pop out lens system is Significant future failure point.
The G100 was designed as a 1080 optimized video camera and stills camera. V-logging does not require 4K video as this video seems to suggest. Most people watch videos on portable devices and streaming to these devices is not done in 4K there’s no reason for it which is why the Panasonic is optimized for 1080. Additionally it does appear that the Panasonic uses the 4K signal and down samples it to 1080 which provides a higher quality video sample similar to what a few years ago cinema cameras like that Canon C 100 used to do.
I kind of feel like the heavy 4K crop on the Panasonic was outlined as a negative whereas there was no or little mention of the 1080 video it provides which is an unbalanced review.
I’m pretty sure the old iPhone Xr it was also not shot in 4K which is not featured here. And the Sony is also cropped 4K which makes for a similarly too tight for unusable vlogging look.
Simply the 4K modes of the Sony and Panasonic are used to provide stabilization for 1080 video. From the manufacturer’s perspective they opted to allow access to 4K for filming because that’s what people are assessing as a value option for purchase and called it feature set. However the down sampling is what is used to provide electronic stabilization without more expensive and mechanical hardware. They understand that full readout 4K is not necessary for intended application.
I get that they trying to do it out of the box comparison with these three cameras but once you start down the road of filming then you’ll quickly see that the limitations of the Zv1. With the Sony there are no options outside of what you purchased in the first place. With the Panasonic you can add ultra wide angles and telephoto lenses from mid range to high quality.
When you’re buying a camera you’re buying a platform. The platform can be the cell phone which has limitations to the built in cameras and some external mic options to full cinema cameras.
The point-and-shoot camera style of the Sony has limitations of a single lens system with no adaptability. The Panasonic has the most flexible choice for focal lengths. The Panasonic is also a really great stills camera. Going back to the platform argument, the ZV is so limited it’s really hard to justify other than perhaps it’s size
This video doesn’t speak to workflow at all, which is the other half of the equation. Which camera offers the fastest or easiest import to an NLE, what requires the least amount of post processing to I can get my videos out to you tube.
Using the iPhone and an NLE is not necessarily the easiest of tasks if you’re not using something like final cut pro. But more importantly that a lot of people want to edit their videos on portable devices , laptops and tablets, but as you start getting into 4K video for 720 / 1080 P delivery typically, you’re just using a lot of computing power and hard drive space for no real gain.
I honestly think that this review should have been done by comparing the 1080 output, done with the cameras being hand held and on sticks from an arm’s-length distance as a vlog would do. The review could also have included some narration from behind the camera while filming something and you would quickly see that the rear facing mic on the Panasonic is very good idea.
After watching a lot of RUclips videos on various cameras over the years I think I’m just a little frustrated sometimes about the lack of objectivity that goes into these types of reviews. There’s a lot of talk about hardware but not the implications of utilization of the hardware in the day-to-day tasks that they are meant to be used for. There are reasons why hardware is designed the way that it is and features or lack of features are often looked at as a negative when compared to another device whereas that feature may not have added any real value whatsoever. If the zv1 offered 6k would that be better? If the Panasonic offered ibis would it be better? Well 6k will kill your battery and drive space, while ibis increases the size, weight and decreases battery life. Can it be done, yes... but are these features adding real value to the task at hand. Tangental feature sets are a case study in consumer and industrial design. More is not always better.
Many good points. This review was not done well. For example, did they really listen to the audio output? The G100 outperformed the others by a mile overall. Oh well, no surprise. This is why I don't subscribe to DPReview.
When it is all said and done, and on RUclips, the Panasonic looks the best to me. I also thought the audio sounded better than the Sony. Thank you for doing this comparison!
I actually think G100 is quite better in almost every regard from both, but it require other lenses then the kit one, it is not built for just one. And the autofocus was improved as you said. And it is the biggest sensor. But it can also do close and far object. And the stablilization if you lower the level of it will have less crop, the highest setting is for the back mic and you behind the camera, but the lower one is comparable with the other 2 and give you wider view, and with another lense it can give you even more. And the sound is unfair, because ZV1 is with in the box this fur, but if you add it to the panasonic g100 will sound much more comparable and very close to Sony. So I think with some smart choices of lenses, fur, and tweaking of the profiles in the camera Panasonic can be easily the winner...
G100 sounds much natural too me where ZV-1 sounds very thin and muffled, like you'd hear underwater recorded sound. Also I'd prefer G100 SOOC colour than ZV-1.
Personally after reviewing these video samples I would put the winner as the Panasonic G100. Why? It clearly has superior video "image quality" over the other 2 cameras which have smaller sensors. Also, not all vloggers have to shoot at 4K or want to. You could easily vlog at 1080P at 30 frames. Sure in some areas of this video, the others are better in use, but in the end, the image quality of the m43 sensor of G100 wins. If walking with the G100 keep in 1080P, and use stabilizers at 30 fps, but don't walk as fast and video is fine. Some creators capture in 1080P then after their final edit, they uprez to 4K before posting on RUclips. Some only post at 1080P. For the low cost of a G100 in this price range, is it in my view better for vlogging over these other 2. (However, if you going to a higher price, you might consider Sony ZV-E10 or Nikon z30 or Canon R10 as alternatives with larger APSC sensors. Note, that the lenses get larger the bigger sensor you go).
Hmm the g100 sounded and looked best to me...
the apple skin tones and face retouching are absolutely gruesome, what was apple thinking. Right out of Madame Toussauds
@Ziggi Mon well I am noticing on my phone screen
I’m fairly sure they were taken with the front-facing selfie camera. Don’t forget there is a far superior camera with a much larger sensor on the back of the iPhone. Also, don’t forget you can purchase a $5 pro video app to get complete control over frame rate, bitrate, audio, stabilisation, etc.
@@mklives2 of course, but only the selfie cam is relevant for blogging
Unfortunately I think most people don't even notice it and want that. I mean a few of the most downloaded apps sole purpose is to make your skin and face look as unnatural as possible. There are music videos with 200k$+ budget shot on Arris and Reds which get completely destroyed in post production by skin smoothing. Watch like any Kpop MV. Videos like Blackpinks Du-Du-Du have super expensive makeup artists yet they decide it's not enough and they gotta obliterate anything that resembles human skin. Influencers in china already started using special makeup that raises contrast on their face so the filters work better for their livestreams (look at South China Morning Posts "Live-streamers use scary make-up to look perfect on camera"). We've reached a point where a huge amount of people expect their camera to make them look like that.
@@KiinaSu it's a big part in many asian cultures, gaining popularity in the US, BUT not really accepted in most other places.
Apple made the camera work like this without the option for a more Natural look by choice, to cater especially to the chinese market, their most important target.
Definitely can’t crop out the beard. Absolute no-no.
The audio... Was it backwards? Cuz the first one sounded the best and the iphone the worst.
Exactly
I agreed!
The iPhone was muffled as hell, absolutely should have come last. The Panasonic was richer than the Sony but not as good at eliminating wind noise so it's a bit of a toss up between those two.
The iPhone was definitely the worst.
Panny natural sounding, Sony tinny and cheap.
2021 HOLIDAYS UPDATE: US $648 at B&H for the Panny G100 with lens and tripod grip kit. Use standard digital, plus lens stabilization in either 4K or 1080p, update the firmware, and it will blow the other two into the weeds. Later you can add a Laowa 7.5mm f/2 to your kit (it's manual focus, but the new version connects electronically for aperture control) for all the wide angle loveliness you'll ever need. Oh, and the OZO audio is extremely versatile, just like the rest of this camera's features. Bad job on this one DPReview.
The camera this video sold me on, is the Panasonic S1H. Gorgeous footage.
Lol it's like 4k bro. Id love to get that too
G100 sound quality is way better than iPhone's.
You lost credibility right away when you said Panasonic audio is 3rd. Lies the g100 audio is best hands down.
get a lens and a gimbal for your g100 if you want the best stuff... if you want amateurish stuff get the zv1
Lol to me panasnic is first. You can do any lense you want. Phones cant do it and sony cant do it. For non beginners this is the killing feature.panasonic also has the biggest sensor , better picture quality. Very strange comparison i disagree with most you said. But at least you make i phone users feel better about their crappy phones😂 no one who is a little bit serious about vlogging would chose a phone over the panasonic
tell me did the G100 Af improved? it seems great :) I so wanna buy this camera... I am afraid about the AF though, on the other G100 DPreview it seemed so bad:( Thanks :)
Luna Gaia Games watch the review of markuspix. It will answer all of your questions he did a wonderful and helpful review
Yeah, I agree with all of this.
This is a Sony butt kiss video. Panasonic was better in EVERY WAY!!!
Am i the only one who thinks that the iPhone audio sounds the worst of the bunch? Especially handheld, I prefer the sound of the Sony way more.
I fully agree...
iphone sound horrible, why would he said it the best? 🙄🙄🙄
Totally flummoxed me, too. Chris was banging on about how well it handled the wind noise and all I could hear in the background was...wind.
‘That can look pretty rough’ - Switches to Jordan’s face
The Sony seems to be showing overexposed, blown out sky. The iPhone looks like horrible HDR sky with fake colours.
I disagree. The Lumix only cuts with full stabilization, there are other options. It also has a mic input like the Sony and they don't even mention it. It can record the sound from behind for when you explain something that you are recording and they don't mention it either. In order to ignore its main advantage, the lenses, they say it is a test of what is in the box. ETC.
This was terrible. Your rankings didn't match your samples.
The biggest example was your audio rankings. In your audio examples, it was a bit difficult to tell. In all your other examples, the Panasonic sounded best.
Hard to understand the logic behind this review. The entire purpose of the interchangeable lens and mic input is that you can extend the capabilities beyond, your favorite phrase, "what is in the box". This is like me comparing a computer with a fixed graphic card to one that is upgradable and incorrectly thinking the fixed graphic card is better. The Panasonic can grow with you as your capabilities improve, the Sony gets sold on eBay.
I might be dumb here, but to my eyes and ears the Panasonic G100 won almost everyone except the crop
Same here. But watch these guys other videos. Sony biased.
Not sure what you were listening too. The Panasonic was the best Audio by far. The Sony was terrible. You guys aren't hiding your Sony bias very well.
Not trying to change your verdict but Panasonic audio sounded better, by far
Many have said this and I agree. But Sony gives them free trips so....
ZV1 had a 18-50 lens, it'd be the perfect vlogging camera.
Agreed, the focal length choice is terrible for vloggers
Sony just used off the shelf parts repackaged, which is unfortunate. That camera would be insane with a wide lens and touch controls.
I think the wider the focal length, the more difficult is to pack with a large aperture. 24mm seems tight, but for me its better choice for general video shooting
@@azmihakam lol your 24mm after stabilization and 4k would be 33mm
I feel like you should have also included the canon m200, Sony a5100, and fuji xt200. My opinion is that if someone is going to spend the money to upgrade from their phone they should really consider an interchangeable lens system that will allow them to upgrade to better glass in the future.
I don't agree with the audio 2nd place for Sony. It didn't sound good at all in mine opinion. But maybe that's because I'm watching this on my phone.
the G100 sounded "better" but the sony sounded closer to how chris actually sounds?
i listened this video with a good headphone and i need to be agree with them, Panasonic's is thin and doesn't have much body and picking a lot of detail from environment.
You should try a quality speaker or headphone. The Pana sounded the worst.
@@tommihommi1 Though the same
Lo único que vi es que la G100 tiene más calidad que los otros. Usa un Gimbal con la G100 y resuelto el problema.
Absolutely Lumix G100 with all its capabilities checked all boxes! Compact, lightweight, flexible lenses, natural color science, EVF, nice sound, fully touchscreen, pretty decent AF, nice looking menus and easy to operate, design looks pro. I don't need 4K, why so underrated?
Out of the box the Panasonic is an interchangeable lens camera. Easy to put on lenses from fisheye to telephoto. There are plenty of fast lenses available at f1.4, f1.2, and f0.95. Restricting the test to just the kit lens is hobbling the Panasonic in regards to where it shines. Changing lenses makes the Panasonic the best of the 3 in low light, and makes it the best for a wide view. This is an out of the box capability.
Well, it is pretty fair if you look at pricing though, plus do you want to put some honking fast glass on it and still use it for vlogging around town? ( I have owned most of the fastest glass in MFT, and it is fantastic, but expensive and heavy). In terms of portability the ZV-1 and Iphone simply will beat the G100, even with the kit lens. PS, I now use the ZV-1 for carrying around, webcam etc, and Panasonic S1R for my most important stuff ;)
@@tosvus I like the ZV-1 for on tripod product shooting, but handheld outside, especially after dark, it is a terrible camera. I cannot get sharp photographs hand held at night, whereas both the Panasonic G9 or Olympus EM-1 III are fantastic for shooting hand held after dark. I like the ZV-1, but am painfully aware of its limitations as well as its strengths. I think that while buying lenses costs extra, it can be done slowly according to affordability, and the vast creative and practical possibilities it opens up is worth it.
@@artistjoh agreed, though if anyone plans to expand their lens lineup, I would much rather have them consider G90/95 or even better G9 (which I used to own and you also mention) if they can find a good price. Well worth some extra money over the G100. I find good ibis is key for mft cameras.
Why not iPhone 11 ? Sony and pany release in 2020 . iPhone XR 2 year old.
Jordan has an iPhone XR as his personal phone I believe
Especially odd as the iPhone 11 was the first to get a large update to the selfie camera (from 7MP to 12MP)
Their reasoning was the price but that doesn't hold up either. At least in here iPhone 11 is actually cheaper than either of those cameras.
You missed "Similar price"?
Yeah.. the iPhone 11 can even do 4k on the front facing camera. And it has the wide lens on the back
I have to disagree with a lot.
First, why the hell 4k? Use 1080p on the g100 and upacale, it will still be miles better tham the iphone.
Audio was also strange...
Ergonomics? What is it, right?
The fact that the lens is fixed and NOT wide enough for vlogging, makes this Sony no-go from the very start. It's not even 24mm equivalent, more like 26.
Its zoom lens, and i think the focal length its better choice for general video shooting, wider lens usually doesnt have large aperture. If wide lens is priority i think go pro hero 8 might be a better choice for vlogging
Umm, that ZV-1 is $750! That’s insane, even if it does so well for vlogging!
STOP COMPARING WITH SHITY ICRAPS. USE AN ANDROID WITH A DECENT CAMERA
Panasonic is looking much better than Sony !
I thought so also. Sound was better by a mile. Their Sony bias is beyond laughable. I guess those free trips they get.
"Apple XR" instead of "iPhone XR" just sounds strange. Although I get you were talking about brands & model names..
Clearly you guys did not listen to the audio properly. Audio on the Sony and iPhone is way more tinny and quiet
Exactly what I thought Panasonic was the best by far. Then Chris talks about Panasonic from 2 months ago.WHAT?
@@richardgorski23 I think they just didn't like the camera from the offset.
IPhone 11: “Am I a joke to you?”
Another test paid by Sony. With the exception of autofocus, Panasonic was better in every comparison. Shame on you Chris ...) P.S. Sony colors suck...
I second that. And the Sony colors are horrible on this video! On the other hand, I got an iPhone XR, and while it is very limited as a video camera, the colors I get with good lighting are honestly much better than what I see here.
I want a spin off video with Jordan and that shampoo bottle. There's a lot of material to work with there.
G100 has a much better sound
thought same. Sony bias is evident
Why not the iphone 11!!?? It is priced similar to Sony!
It wouldn't have made a difference in the results
If you stick a small mirror to the back of the iPhone, you can use the much better rear camera to film yourself. If you can see your reflection in the mirror, you’ll be correctly framed.
the front camera also does the terrible face editing, not quite as extreme as the selfie cam, but it is distracting
@DPRreview you know, now I'm waiting for Garnier shampoo review !
Wow the focus breathing/hunting on the G100 at 8.40 ish was poor Look at the to the left and right of Chris’s face
I gotta be honest. In my TV at the highest res... The panasonic won ALL the categories (minus the AF).
It won audio?
@What Are You On About ok 😢
Sorry, that iPhone's audio wasn't good. It might have been richer, but it sounds really weird and gritty and tunnel-y. It sounds like there's some block in the mid-highs missing, making it sound muffled. Not that the Sony or Panasonic were all that good, either.
Is the Smartphone VFR or CFR--that's a real pain to deal with.
The ZV1 footage looks too contrasty. G100 looks far more natural.
For me an audio winner is G100. Second iPhone and Sony on third place.
Same Here. but remember they are Sony Biased. Just watch their videos it is beyond obvious.
V and S log should NOT be considered “out of the box” bcs you’ll be needing additional hardware and software. Using logs is like using filters or better lenses! Be fair guys don’t fool newbies.
What extra software or hardware do you need? Only the stuff needed for video editing anyways.
FYI you can color log footage using the rgb curves. Every video editing software has those.
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@@josecolon8143 I mean you can literally download log to rec709 LUTs or premade color grades, your claim that you need "additional hardware and software" is a total joke
iphone has terrible audio
6:53 is me approaching women at bars
Why Not iPhone 11?
It wouldn't have changed the results
Aaand the winner is S1H
The 10r sucks iq wise
Btw through my TV sound bar the iPhone sounded bloody terrible, like seriously is this channel just trolling or sponsored by apple? Honestly the iPhone sounds crap, stating the iPhone sounds better can seriously damage your reputation I mean really!. So no offence it sounds idiotic to suggest the iPhone sounds better than the two cameras especially the Sony!. It actually makes me laugh genuinely!.
Just got the G100 with the vlog stick for $600 on sale. I'm pretty happy with it :) Paying $750 for the G100? Nope.
I think I know what this video was trying to do, be a showcase for some "new" (iphone xr ain't exactly new or even the best cell phone for vlogging) products that are relatively different from one another, but the underlying premise is quite silly, not everyone has a iphone sitting in their pocket, even if everyone did have an iphone in their pocket, does anyone want to watch more vlogs done on iphones or point n shoot cameras? The video should have been titled "which device to get the least awful, but still terrible looking content on the internet as easily as possible that no one is gonna bother watching", none of these are the best vlogging tools in this price range (fuji x-t200? Panasonic G7?) and the hosts probably know that, heaven forbid they do a "best vlogging cameras you can get second hand on ebay, with enough leftover for a decent lens"
The audio on the panasonic was way better; how couldn’t you not notice that?
9:15 Is that mistake? It probably should be ZV-1 instead of G100.
If I was vlogging and walking, I would be using a gimbal or selfie stick so the 4k crop from the g100 wouldn't matter.
Love how the crap af on the Panasonic drifts horribly just as Chris says that none of the cameras will have issues focussing xD
Panasonic made the best blogging camera years back. G7
You can pick it up cheap.
Autofocus doesn't work, 4K is cropped, no stabilization at all and photo quality is destroyed by shutter shock. It is cheap, it has 4K but thats where pros of this camera ends. I still have G7 on shelf, because thats the first camera I bought with my money and I have a lot of memories with it, but I wouldnt recommend it to anyone. Save up for G85 and you will get magnesium body, weather sealing, very good IBIS, no shutter shock, more FPS in continuous photo mod,e 2x bigger buffer, faster UHS interface, SD card slot on right instead of bottom, slightly larger EVF magnification and electronic stabilization option. Still I probably forgot about many other G85 advantages. Or you can get GX80 which at least in my country is the same price as G7, but it has IBIS.
@@piotrplenzler3519 It is relative. I've watched many videos record with the G7 and they are great. Of course the G85 is cool, but to start the G7 is fabulous.
@@piotrplenzler3519 4k is cropped. No one cares for vlogging.
No stabilization. That is not true. I've never experienced shutter shock.
Anything else? PS.. Best doesn't mean perfect.
@@LiveWellUkraine
GX8, GX80 and GX9 has Dual IS
G80, G90, G9, GH5 has Dual I.S. 2
G7 DOESN'T have ANY stabilization, just Google "Dual I.S. / Dual I.S.2" and go to Panasonic site - where do you see mention of G7?
@@piotrplenzler3519 I don't have to google anything. I'm looking at my actual menu. It has Stabilization
The stabilization of iPhone XR makes you jumping all the time! lool :D
idk why, but the shaky "STABILIZATION" tittle made me giggle, lol
What I learned from this video is S1H is superb and decent microphone is essential.
What I've heared from a few vloggers about the Sony is that if u stand behind the camera the audio is awefull!
Real nice comparison. Would love to see g7x3 vs zv1. Thanks again.
Guys I have to compliment you and the outstanding way you put together videos all these years, you don't talk too much fluff wasting viewers time, you don't sit at a table the whole video, for every subject you mive to a different location for eye relief of viewers. You use just enough comedy while taking the review serious and are fair. I've learned some of this for my channel if I'm honest. Much respect.
Raychristofer fully agree! I’ve unsubscribed from most other channels for this reason alone. And better yet, they don’t try to sell presets!
@@VicenteSchmitt haha lol. I never thought of that too
Phone in your pocket and therefore free. For 99% of people it’s a no brainer. I’m a Sony shooter btw.
I disagree with the iphone audio quality, in your video it sounds the worst of all. It sounds like sh*t dude.
g100 footage had the better video quality
Thanks to you guys, I can finally choose! Fructis sleek & shine 🙉
This is not an apple, it's an iPhone. Apple is the company of iPhone.
Out of the box is such a stupid limitation, as in real life no-one is sticking to Out of the box. Get the Panasonic, slap a cheap Chinese 7.5mm wide angle lens on it and it will be the best vlogging camera from this bunch.
Or I buy the M50 with a cheap wide angle lens and also have reliable autofocus.
Andreas Buder except no phase detect auto focus in 4K and a more than 2.5x crop right?
@@walrusgumboot Well, the Pana has no reliable autofocus in any mode, and also a substantial 4K crop, so there is no point to be made.
Andreas Buder take it easy, just saying the M50 isn’t all that either. All the cameras in this price segment have their issues. The M50’s 4K focus is terrible and a much bigger crop than the Pana. Both cameras have full sensor in full HD, and high frame rate AF on the Pana is pretty reliable. 4K24p is where it struggles
@@walrusgumboot no worry, I did not take any offence. I just see the M50 (several years old) still ahead of today’s offerings at that price point. What in and of itself is kind of confusing.
Loving the content focused on introductory/entry-level gear!
IPhone sounded the worst to me in the microphone test...
I think you forgot the ZV1 is unlimited recording. Phone video makes your skin look like you are a waxed figure. Yuck. I want the S1H video quality in a ZV1 body. any questions?
Not actually a dead kitten. Ya don't say....
in iphone 12 era (dpreview shows off an IPHONE XR) seems at least you should use 11 instead althrough it is a old tech, but 11 has much more more better audio and video vs the XR
The idea is to compare solutions similar in price. If you add accessories to the G100 and ZV-1 for the price differential, they'll be even better.
Ildskalli however, a zv-1 costs a double of a XR
The XR was released exactly 2 years ago and is already considered old tech? Our planets future doesnt look bright 😢
Anton Hei world changes so fast its a sad news.
I just can't find videos about cameras shooting videos, only vlogging.
I'm doing hiking videos (walking with gimbal). Not GoPro. I'm not swimming, running, cycling... What's the best camera for just making videos? Make awesome video with great stabilisation, 4k at 60fps, USB-C connector, can make even great photos? Please help. So many cameras out there.
Is the 4k vídeo as sharp as the g9?
Were do you guys live.... everything looks so beautiful 😍
And yet, if most of the people here were asked: What camera out of these 3 would you pick? Almost all would say Panasonic, for the mount. I get the comparison with out of the box things, but then you can say: On iphone, you can edit your videos, and share them. If you are spending that much money on vlogging, you are at least semi-serious. And out of the box is not how they would use the cameras.
In the real world, people in the Apple Ecosystem tend to be all Apple all the time (they've drunk the Kool-Aid). I can use my Apple Watch 5 as both a viewfinder and a remote trigger for my iPhone XS-not an option available with either Sony or Panasonic. Because of this I don't need to always have the camera in my hand-I can be more creative with composition. Also my Watch 5 has a built-in mic, obviating the need to stay close the the camera to record sound.
With a smart-phone you can do your editing, using an app, with your phone. No need to rush home to your iMac, before airing. Another smart-phone plus is the ability to stream live. My iPhone XS has an IP68 water resistance rating (1 meter for 30 minuets), letting me sing and dance in the rain if I feel the urge ;-). Whats not to like 8-)
The image quality of the iPhone is awful. (and i'm just watching this in a 24 FHD display) Every thing lacks detail, specially comapred to the ZV1. and the skin looks like porcelain, not in the good way.
I guess in my phone the image would be more than acceptable, but even an ipad would be big enough to notice the blurriness.
(I still prefer the oversharpened image of the ZV1)
There's actually something VERY strange with the iPhone stabilization. Does not look smooth, and feels like some weird frame rate and flicker when you look at your face during that clip 10:35 .
The audio testing is so dumb to choose iphone at 1 place ,do you even heard the quality of the iPhone clip! It's so compressed like clip that's so unfair and wrong review
Uh was the XR chosen because of price point? Because there are newer and better iPhones out there... yes the 11pro line is much more expensive though. Not sure if the base 11 is identical to the XR though.
The iPhone 11 is a big improvement over the Xr, so I’m sure it would do even better with the competition. Also, is it or the Sony video looks very flat and pale. Chris looks like a corpse 💀
The iPhone audio was simply awful in comparison to both of the cameras and I’m an Apple user. You got that wrong, big time.
The Iphone sound is awful ... anyway, does the Af of the G100 improved? It seems great, is it?
I like the HDR from Apple. Wish Sony could do something about it...