@@jackodriscoll3817 hmmm, Kinda. It was crazy how they had mandolorian episode for the book of boba but at the same time boba was SO.BORING. Why TH is he staying at these tuskens & wanting to be an "crime" boss
I think can't believe that The show was really just the Rebel live action Anyone can be force sensitive Anakin just hanging with ashoka despite HIS SON AND GRANDSON NEEDING HIM that horse scene where they all survive an orbal bombet and just so much more
Do you get it? In the film they say “nothing anyone old did was important” since all they did was destroy one death star when there were thousands of back up ones, and they overthrew an evil empire just for it to immediately take back over. And the film writers are saying “nothing anyone old did was important” by making the original trilogy make these movies WORSE by watching the originals.
I once heard that this movie was described as "a culmination of 1/10s and 9/10s that all form together to make a very average experience.". I can't for the life of me figure out what the 9s were, or even anything higher than a 2.
Dude the visual effects are amazing, these movies are 10/10 whenever characters aren't talking or advancing the plot or the movie is showing something that doesn't make sense
@@LampolukeAmazing visuals? They’re computer graphics 100% localized to the exact frames that they’re shown in. They only exist in those specific shots. Do you know what video games are? Imagine computer graphics, like in the movies, except it can be a massive, interactive, three dimensional world with all manner of different systems simultaneously at play. After Red Dead 2, I could give a monkeys shit about a movies CGI. It means literally nothing. They SHOULD be amazing visual spectacles when a 200 billion dollar company is funding it to be a visual spectacle. That’s expected. Praising the visuals in a Disney Star Wars slop is like praising McDonalds because your burger came in a bun. Yeah, that’s the least they could do. They fuckin better, at this point.
@@christopherkinsella3912I concur, this is sort of akin to saying that a Pixar film has decent animation. That is the BARE minimum - it would not be a good Star Wars film and/or Disney without some effort put into VFX and SFX.
@@christopherkinsella3912preach my guy. i cant, for the life of me, understand how aMaZiNg vISuAls is a positiv argument anyone would make for a mutli hundert million dollar movie
Something I didn't think about until now. Palpatine zaps Luke in the OT for like 30 seconds straight and he lives but Rey sharts out one small zap of lightning and explodes a ship lol.
The "cant go up" thing is so much worse than you think. Space is in EVERY DIRECTION *EXCEPT* DOWN! They can go forward, backwards, sideways... space is everywhere
It is possible that some Jedi survived, even the EU had that before Disney, but I still have to agree with you. It looks like in the Disney canon, so many survived that it kinda breaks the original trilogy by possibly having hundreds of Jedi all over the galaxy.
Tbf, even the EU and video games did that. Although, it's more egregious in the Disney canon. At least in other media, it was like small amounts in hiding.
Ayy Wolf killing it with the consistent and high quality uploads. Really appreciate it man. It seems like you’ve got a hell of a process down or you’re working hard as fuck(or both).
Finn: "I'm going to talk to the locals." Writers just gave up on creating a meaningful chain of in-world cause-and-effect and declared that the character uses the Gather Information skill.
I remember Episode 66 releasing during the greatest week of my life, when my girlfriend at the time was visiting for the holidays. Makes me so nostalgic to see highlights from it today.
She came to visit you over the holidays and you decided to use that time to watch a 7 hour stream about one of the worst movies ever made. I like your style. That’s what they call ‘moxie’ and kid, you’ve got it.
Imagine that Han and Leia only meet for the first time in the last scene of ESB and absolutely no chemistry in RotJ. Actual insanity. Rey and Poe should have met at the least halfway through TFA.
It truly was a special episode, everyone is having such a great time, laughing while tearing this piece of shit movie apart, I had such a blast during this one.
Ah, this was the episode that got me into EFAP - see, I came in after listening to MauLer's Unbridled video on TRoS, and I was curious as to where this footage was from. You guys have been a constant companion for the past four years of my life. Thank you for everything.
I feel like JJ just finished watching Avatar: The Last Airbender and Legend of Korra when the whole "All the past Jedi/Sith live in you" was written into the story. Like being a Jedi is somehow the Avatar State and tapping into it somehow links you to every past Jedi or Sith somehow. This, as well as "Oh boy, cameos and memberberries in the finale!"
Something to keep in mind is Wolf has repeatedly said he doesn't like his behaviors prior to leaving the internet And rants like those probably fall in line of things he doesn't want to do anymore. So while the famous wolf rant may be still on the table I think those are a far way off.
DUDE!!!! that arc at 11:44 would have MADE a whole new star wars that people would have enjoyed and could get behind with a new generation.... like damn man that sounds sooooo gooood
It’s not that they brought back Palpatine (he was resurrected in the EU so at least there’s precedent) it’s the fact that his return wasn’t hinted in the previous films AT ALL, even a throwaway line like “there’s somebody pulling the strings & it ain’t Snoke” or “there’s a presence on planet Exogul that’s shrouded in the Dark Side” would’ve sufficed
As a trilogy it's absolutely dreadful, so little connective tissue between them. The scraped dual of fates version of this movie may not have been perfect but at least it connects up with the rest rather than this abortion. Never seen a trilogy so openly fighting itself and lore.
Thanks for the reminder! I need to listen to this complete epi again. I wish I could remember the first EFAP epi I listened to. But it’s def around this time, when I needed to find a harmonial community in regards to DSW. 😊
"Droid rights" - is a thing pushed since disney took over, it was never a thing in the OT or prequels and its all because some over sensitive PC person misinterpreted the like "no droids, we dont serve their kind here"....because it was a bar, and droids don't drink and that person decided to make droind sentience a major issue in almost every single Star Wars movie Disney made....
Its answer is long and confusing, but the quick answer is.... There was a war against AI in the past. Thats why everything is "manual" despite being futuristic space nonsense. But... making droids usefull means making them "near sentient." The problem being that droids fairly regularly gain personalities. So they have to be regularly memory wiped. This is largely unexplored in the movies.
@@Pistonrager There's a lot that can be argued with that, but...By Disney's own rules, if it exists outside of the original movies, it's not canon unless it's mentioned BY Disney in which case we're back to it being an invention of Disney as Disney frequently cherry picks from the EU and manipulates it to their own need, which is why Clone Wars retcons a lot of things and why The Mandalorian is a completely disaster.
@@Pistonrager As do I. But that's the over all point of my comment, the "Droid rights" issue was never in the OT or prequels, but it's been in near enough (if not all) movies, shows and even games now with Star Wars: Outlaws that Disney has made and frankly, it's beyond irritating at this point. They're bent on fabricating this non issue that no one has ever cared about and trying to make some grand allegory/talking point.
Maybe Rise of Skywalker is Finn's dying brain fart as he breathes his last on the salt plains of Krayt after Rose Tico has crashed into him, and just before a gorilla AT-AT crushes his corpse.
6:40 im willing to bet if you told Kathleen Kennedy that the sequel trilogy makes the original trilogy useless and skippable, she'd probably "ohhh... that's bad." while smiling really wide. then she gets in her ride and goes to have a disney party to celebrate.
Something that’s always annoyed me about the ships not being able to just go up, it implies that in a universe where FTL is a very common technology the basic concept of a gyroscope is nonexistent. It’s literally a general rule of physics, it’s how even a basic bicycle stays up right. Even submarines have been using them for decades for underwater navigation, and JJ believes in a world where light sabers exist no one has thought to install a spinning wheel to tell them which way is up
Why now? The original is 4 years old... all this reminds me of is that Jay Exci is still not back after half a year. I miss them, I hope they are OK, wherever they are.
That desert world scene is also absurd. I once worked out that funding the exact ground opening at the exact time of the festival was roughly 1 in 1.5 sextillion chance, or in the same broad ballpark as finding a specific grain of sand. That's not even including the odds if Lando being in the right place at the right time either...
The more I listen to this episode the more I think "they don't know which way is up out there" was meant to be a figure of speech and everyone took it literally.
Imagine if the sequel trilogy had been phenomenal. The ramifications would be felt to this day. Everyone not named Adam Driver and Oscar Isaac would still have careers. Galaxy’s Edge would be packed every day. The franchise wouldn’t be irrelevant. Disney wouldn’t be reliant on key jangle to make fans excited about new projects.
Another annoying thing about finn not becoming a jedi is before the 7th movie, a book was written and came.out before the film called "star wars: before the awakening" it was about ray, finn, and poe and what they were doing before the film. In the book finn is a hand to hand/ melee weapon specialist. They establish that finn is the best in his whole unit when it comes to fighting up close and personal. Meanwhile in the films he always is weilding the lightsaber like an utter bafoon. Mind he isnt trained in the force and whatnot, his saber technique sould be significant
Remember the good ol' days of *checks callendar* 2019 when a product as recent as Fallen Order reminded us even hyperspace can take days and weeks when crossing the galaxy? I remember that.
1:02:45 RoS vs TLJ TLJ is RYAN's screw-up. He came in and just trainwrecked a big hole with a Holdo-like move. JJ gets the last word and drops the ball hard. TFA was his start-off. Then he gets the chance to fix Ryan's mess, but instead, he ruins everything else. They're still a close tie for worst, but it seems JJ has more responsibility for the whole.
Exactly their mission: …marketing to girls who would prefer George Lucas Star Wars. Jar jar abrams has zero business in this industry if he writes like this and neither does rian Johnson
30:00 The whole saga went from being Anakin's story to being Palpatine's story, we get to see is pre emperor life, then how he reigned in the OT and finished with how he controlled "everything" from the shadows. Its not great, but I prefer that to some of the other possibility.
I don't know if I or others have pointed this out yet, but what's Shad is essentially suggesting on the 11:00 mark (about Rey being the main antagonist and Finn being the unexpected hero) was done in Star Wars before, with the KOTOR series. Revan was the former dark lord turned mysterious protagonist trying to save Bastilla, a prodigy Jedi who succumbed to the dark side, mostly because of him. Like Revan, Finn would be the grim, scarred war veteran finding a deep connection with the untouchable flower girl, as he tries to save that one person that saved him from the brink as well. In fact, the dyad pish with Rey and Kylo is just the force bond between Revan and Bastilla. JJ and LucasFilm had a blueprint staring right at their faces and all they achieved was just a discount version of Revan's posse.
54:00 Ive had several people online and offline say that they gave it a higher/lower score then they wanted, because they didnt like the average score it had at that moment. And people trying to deflate/inflate the score because they heard other people do the same...
The *only* things from this movie that I liked was the new Y-Wing Fighter design and the TIE Dorito. That’s it. I’m so glad that I never once watched this pile of putrid piss puke.
Those Star Destroyers managed to fly up through the ground by moving upward, as soon as they break the surface they go “ooooookay and which way now??” ……….🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
MauLer: .. finding McMuffin 3, that leads to McMuffin 2,.. Rags: it's all very complicated 17:32 Misheard that as "it's all very cupcake" and had to double check - would have been such a Rags thing to say 😂
I was just thinking through how much of the series you could skip if we accept the ST’s canonicity. You need some critical information about who the OT cast is so you can’t completely skip the OT. And, to understand who the Emperor is, you can’t really skip the PT. I think you’d watch The Phantom Edit for the PT, watch episodes 4 and 5, learn that Vader and the Emperor somehow died but then the Emperor somehow came back, then watch episode 7, learn that Luke and Snoke died, then 9. Phantom Edit cuts out most of TPM and AotC so basically 1.5 movies, cut out episode 6 for another, cut out episode 8 for another. So out of the 9 episodes, you wouldn’t need to watch over a trilogy worth to get the complete story. That’s depressing.
The Exogol thing blew my mind. Dude you're in a spaceship! Look out the window, if you see no planet just go, you'll be fine thats space. And dont get me started with the horses lol...just roll the ship and they'll fall off.
I think I can explain why Ep 9 is so much more palatable to normies: Star Wars was already dead. All it did was disrespect a dead body while kicking the crap out of TLJ which committed the actual murder. That was satisfying. If you have buried your dead, gone through the stages of grief and moved on, then there is only the satisfaction of seeing Rian's work dismantled and p*ssed on. 86%, booyah. But if you're still in the bargaining stage, holding onto things like Anakin's sacrifice, then there are all these fresh wounds that keep you from enjoying the revenge, which is really all it could offer.
Need I remind anyone that in the Star Wars universe even small craft are able to routinely navigate across the vastness of space? I know Abrams got handed a turd but couldn't he have come up with a better way to polish it?
41:01 they could've logically explained this slightly with his backstory. The ship is the First Order Star Destroyer, while the sith Star Destroyers obviously look like the Empire's Star Destroyers. Of course Finn would point out that ship since he's familiar with the design (not to mention Finn and Poe escape the same type of Destroyer in TFA). But oh well, he had a feeling
"Ren has gone mad. As much as hate your pitiful Alliance, there should be order in empire. Snoke brought order. Ren is nothing but chaos, like the rest of the sith. Uh..anyway...so yknow.. that's why I'm the spy." A line Hux could have said...
honestly i was hoping that finn would be the non force sensitive sparing partner for rey, he'd use the one storm trooper melee weapon and she'd use the light saber, or they'd use other things and switch it up.
Waste of potential, I really thought Poe and Finn had more chemistry together than Rey, a story of a Rebel member joining forces with an ex Stormtrooper that could become a new Jedi had a lot of potential. But unfortunatelly Finn was not a KK self insert so he had no chance of getting the spotlight.
Reminder that TO THIS DAY Rise of Skywalker on Rotten Tomatoes AUDIENCE RATING did not inch a percent. You can find videos and clips of it being 86% with 10k reviews, or 20k reviews in the first month of movie's release. Its up to 50k reviews these days, and still its not 87%, not 85%. Not changes. It was just that good huh.
Lore wise most droids have their memory wiped so they don't gain personalities and possibly goes against their programming In the Clone Wars this is memory wiping was supposed to be done to stop information getting into the separatists hand but Anakin didn't do it
I can't stop laughing at how wrong I was that Star Wars couldn't get worse after TLJ. I guess, in a way, they really did subvert my expectations after all. It's just a shame that they lack the ability to surpass them instead.
The only content that Disney made that I will watch is Rogue One, Andor, and 2 seasons of Mandalorian since they compliment what came before and not try to tear down and destroy.
I swear to god, malicious bad will always be leagues worse than incompetent bad. Rise of Skywalker was disappointing, Last Jedi just made me furious. The Rise of Skywalker was the twist of a knife, but the stab wound done by the Last Jedi so big and severe that I was long dead by that point.
Another suggestion for these shorts. In the weird off chance anyone is interested in the visuals or the chat of the clips, maybe instead of blurring the entire screen to show a time stamp, you can put a large tab on the top or side like on a filing folder. You can have a simple tab with the time stamp come down, and still with the stock sounds as a "notification", then have it go back up or out or something.
I don't think they ever would have let Finn beat evil Rey, but it would have been super cool to see the final movie/fight being 1v2: Rey/Kylo being evil pair and Finn bringing her back to the light side so it's 2v1 with their friendship being the focus (choose your family vs. lackluster focus on Skywalker bloodline, which to be fair, I guess was her choosing her family posthumously?). Would also be nod to the Darth Maul 2v1 fight from the prequels. I guess her being brought back to the light side is similar to Ben's rushed 3rd movie arc, but def remove the force healing turncoating. I suppose in 2nd movie, you could have similar, but from that scene where Luke sees her reaching for the darkness, she actually succumbs by the end of the movie, so then a truly disheveled Luke in 3rd movie has to get over that 2nd failure (compounds his mistake with Ben at the academy even though that probably needs to be reworked still for the sake of Luke's legacy; I am a fan, however, of even the most noble heroes falling at some point, so I'd probably keep the betrayal but not make it attempted murder, just he misstepped in his mentor role to Ben badly somehow) and train Finn to become a Jedi to win his friend back and right Luke's wrong. Then if you want to go bonkers, you have the projected Luke from end of TLJ make it a 2v2 final fight for a short time (projection broken to save Finn, nod to Obi death in OG?): Finn/Luke vs Rey/Kylo (latter nod to throne room fight which I'd like to keep, but probably rework to be part where she accepts Dark Side by taking Kylo's offer). Perfect world, have the final fight at that planet from 1st movie fight at nighttime in the snow again, or in the crater that broke up her and Kylo's 1st movie end fight, but I honestly don't remember if that planet/scene was still in play; it's been a while. My pitch probably also banks on less nostalgia, as I'm mostly using Luke, but I suppose Chewie is still helping out with the Falcon/Poe, Leia is still Commander. Force ghost or whatever Han I think definitely gets cut, makes his death more impactful. Maybe his voice somewhere in final fight if Ben is also brought back to the Light Side. Knights of Ren could also be used more in 3rd movie if it's Evil Rey and Kylo leading them. Would have to do my research, but I just got hyped thinking of what could have been (granted, we've seen these tropes before, who hasn't).
What’s sad is that Kylo could’ve survived his crash landing in the TIE fighter if Disney didn’t do everything in their power to nerf Jedi/Sith. A Legends powered Kylo could’ve survived but the one we got should be pasted by their own rules
Finn: "You have to snap out of it, Rey! This isn't you!" Rey: "Wrong. For the first time I feel like my life makes sense! Join me, Finn! Come to the Dark Side and then you can let *others* clean the floors of Star Destroyers for you!"
The rise of Skywalker truly was ambitious, they were the first film to use a McMuffin instead of a macguffin.
So many McMuffins!
I wanted to make a comment, but there are already 66 comments
@@CMCAdvancedStill more McMuffins in the movie so make the comment anyway
No hash browns, either!
But it did come with a cup of nice, fresh, hot coffee.
27:45 "Disney doesn't know what they're doing with Ahsoka Tano"
And this was 4 years BEFORE the D+ show.
Right, the live action gals were the only reason it not in F
and they still don't, she not even the focus on her own show, just like obi wan
Not that impressive honestly.
It's like taking a guess that a turd is going to be smelly 🤷
@lulukomadori9651 And Boba Fett LOL.
@@jackodriscoll3817 hmmm, Kinda. It was crazy how they had mandolorian episode for the book of boba but at the same time boba was SO.BORING. Why TH is he staying at these tuskens & wanting to be an "crime" boss
@@lulukomadori9651
>Tuscans
Did Italy turn into Jakku when I wasn't watching?
lel
"They EFAP now!?!"
"They EFAP now!"
Somehow, EFAP's "Rise of Skywalker" discussion returned.
“I bypassed the off topic rants!”
No EFAP is ever really gone.
I am all the EFAP!
They EFAP now!
My baby brother was like 6 at the time and even he said this movie sucked
He should've just pretended it's what he wanted
@@Vesporeon Cause of the highlights I can finally catch up on the insider jokes XD
I was 15 when this came out and i turn 20 soon and its still iconic. The EFAP not the movie
Why did he think it sucked?
My baby sister was still in utero and communicated “this sucks” in Morse code through kicks.
41:43 "Ships can't even go up."
And the tradition lives on in the Ahsoka Tano series with Thrawn's ship not going up.
"Rey, Quigon was wrong. It was you all along. The chosen one. The savior of this rebellion and our hero" - Anakin Beachwalker.
"It was not me, where the fun begins. It begins with you Rey!" - Anakin Floorwalker
“But how did it make you ✨feel✨?”
"Like Sheeeet" 😂
What are the themes though
Massive
It makes me feel distasteful.
@@XenoSpyro "...To me
"
18:10 it's criminal he didn't get to finish his joke "she gets down with the sithness"
Finn wanted to tell Rey… “I knocked up Rose, can you use Force Abort on her?”
Abortion is illegal in that galaxy? Pill and vacuum?
No exceptions.
That part about Ahsoka did not age well in hindsight.
😂😂
and she was a good friend
@dimas3829 so much like your father 😏
I think can't believe that
The show was really just the Rebel live action
Anyone can be force sensitive
Anakin just hanging with ashoka despite HIS SON AND GRANDSON NEEDING HIM
that horse scene where they all survive an orbal bombet
and just so much more
She was the hottest piece of jailbait in the galaxy, barely legal in most systems. And she was a good friend.
Do you get it?
In the film they say “nothing anyone old did was important” since all they did was destroy one death star when there were thousands of back up ones, and they overthrew an evil empire just for it to immediately take back over.
And the film writers are saying “nothing anyone old did was important” by making the original trilogy make these movies WORSE by watching the originals.
I once heard that this movie was described as "a culmination of 1/10s and 9/10s that all form together to make a very average experience.". I can't for the life of me figure out what the 9s were, or even anything higher than a 2.
Dude the visual effects are amazing, these movies are 10/10 whenever characters aren't talking or advancing the plot or the movie is showing something that doesn't make sense
@Lampoluke Some of the visuals were pretty amazing. Unfortunately, that's about the only good thing in those movies.
@@LampolukeAmazing visuals? They’re computer graphics 100% localized to the exact frames that they’re shown in. They only exist in those specific shots. Do you know what video games are? Imagine computer graphics, like in the movies, except it can be a massive, interactive, three dimensional world with all manner of different systems simultaneously at play.
After Red Dead 2, I could give a monkeys shit about a movies CGI. It means literally nothing. They SHOULD be amazing visual spectacles when a 200 billion dollar company is funding it to be a visual spectacle. That’s expected. Praising the visuals in a Disney Star Wars slop is like praising McDonalds because your burger came in a bun.
Yeah, that’s the least they could do. They fuckin better, at this point.
@@christopherkinsella3912I concur, this is sort of akin to saying that a Pixar film has decent animation. That is the BARE minimum - it would not be a good Star Wars film and/or Disney without some effort put into VFX and SFX.
@@christopherkinsella3912preach my guy. i cant, for the life of me, understand how aMaZiNg vISuAls is a positiv argument anyone would make for a mutli hundert million dollar movie
The entire stream is almost 12 hour long and its incredibly entertaining
where can i find full stream?
@@michaelhope2983
"EFAP Order #66 - Full Breakdown/Review of Star Wars: Episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker"
Channel name: Mooler
@@xelldincht4251 absolute legend cheers mate 🤙
18:11 Rags' Down with the Sithness joke was actually funny, sadly didn't seem to land though.
Something I didn't think about until now. Palpatine zaps Luke in the OT for like 30 seconds straight and he lives but Rey sharts out one small zap of lightning and explodes a ship lol.
Luke was probably using a weak "force shield"....
Varying levels of creaminess.
The "cant go up" thing is so much worse than you think. Space is in EVERY DIRECTION *EXCEPT* DOWN! They can go forward, backwards, sideways... space is everywhere
They can apparently go up (as in out of the ground and into the sky) but can't just keep going that way for some reason.
26:45 "all the Jedi are dead due to Order 66"
Disney: "Nah, just a handful of Jedi are dead, we have TV shows to make."
At this point, I believe that Order 66 means just killing 66 people.
It is possible that some Jedi survived, even the EU had that before Disney, but I still have to agree with you. It looks like in the Disney canon, so many survived that it kinda breaks the original trilogy by possibly having hundreds of Jedi all over the galaxy.
Tbf, even the EU and video games did that. Although, it's more egregious in the Disney canon. At least in other media, it was like small amounts in hiding.
Ayy Wolf killing it with the consistent and high quality uploads. Really appreciate it man. It seems like you’ve got a hell of a process down or you’re working hard as fuck(or both).
Finn: "I'm going to talk to the locals."
Writers just gave up on creating a meaningful chain of in-world cause-and-effect and declared that the character uses the Gather Information skill.
I remember Episode 66 releasing during the greatest week of my life, when my girlfriend at the time was visiting for the holidays. Makes me so nostalgic to see highlights from it today.
Hey, that's really nice.
She came to visit you over the holidays and you decided to use that time to watch a 7 hour stream about one of the worst movies ever made.
I like your style. That’s what they call ‘moxie’ and kid, you’ve got it.
Imagine that Han and Leia only meet for the first time in the last scene of ESB and absolutely no chemistry in RotJ. Actual insanity. Rey and Poe should have met at the least halfway through TFA.
EFAP 66 was my favourite for a long while and i hope we get to remind the audience of all its great moments.
It truly was a special episode, everyone is having such a great time, laughing while tearing this piece of shit movie apart, I had such a blast during this one.
Efap 66 was my first experience watching efap
@@kieranhj8759 same, its a good start
"Execute EFAP 66."
Ah, this was the episode that got me into EFAP - see, I came in after listening to MauLer's Unbridled video on TRoS, and I was curious as to where this footage was from. You guys have been a constant companion for the past four years of my life.
Thank you for everything.
Oh God. The fact the sequels start to make some sense when you remove the original trilogy. That's crazy.
I feel like JJ just finished watching Avatar: The Last Airbender and Legend of Korra when the whole "All the past Jedi/Sith live in you" was written into the story. Like being a Jedi is somehow the Avatar State and tapping into it somehow links you to every past Jedi or Sith somehow. This, as well as "Oh boy, cameos and memberberries in the finale!"
Speaking of Y-Wings, when can we see your epic rant Wolf? ^-^
Honestly, I'm surprised the first things that were highlighted weren't all of Wolf's rants.
Something to keep in mind is Wolf has repeatedly said he doesn't like his behaviors prior to leaving the internet
And rants like those probably fall in line of things he doesn't want to do anymore.
So while the famous wolf rant may be still on the table I think those are a far way off.
@RyanGoosing I remember he said he didn't like his comedy, not necessarily his rants.
DUDE!!!! that arc at 11:44 would have MADE a whole new star wars that people would have enjoyed and could get behind with a new generation.... like damn man that sounds sooooo gooood
It’s not that they brought back Palpatine (he was resurrected in the EU so at least there’s precedent) it’s the fact that his return wasn’t hinted in the previous films AT ALL, even a throwaway line like “there’s somebody pulling the strings & it ain’t Snoke” or “there’s a presence on planet Exogul that’s shrouded in the Dark Side” would’ve sufficed
While it was silly in the EU, at least there it was a clone using existing, albeit illegal tech and far less stupid overall.
As a trilogy it's absolutely dreadful, so little connective tissue between them. The scraped dual of fates version of this movie may not have been perfect but at least it connects up with the rest rather than this abortion. Never seen a trilogy so openly fighting itself and lore.
EU wasn't gospel either, resurrecting Palpatine was one of the worst plots in some of the worst EU material.
Dark Empire wasn't good either, but it was better than this, utilized the OT characters, and doesn't totally fuck Anakin's sacrifice.
and now every side piece of star wars material from the bad batch to mandalorian is retroactively trying to justify palpatine cloning himself
Every time Wolf posts a highlight I pee a little... Love ya man
Thanks for the reminder! I need to listen to this complete epi again. I wish I could remember the first EFAP epi I listened to. But it’s def around this time, when I needed to find a harmonial community in regards to DSW. 😊
EFAP 66 was my introduction to EFAP and its my overall favourite of EFAP, I like it so much I've rewatched it multiple times
Every character now treats c3po the way that Han Solo treated him
"Droid rights" - is a thing pushed since disney took over, it was never a thing in the OT or prequels and its all because some over sensitive PC person misinterpreted the like "no droids, we dont serve their kind here"....because it was a bar, and droids don't drink and that person decided to make droind sentience a major issue in almost every single Star Wars movie Disney made....
Its answer is long and confusing, but the quick answer is....
There was a war against AI in the past. Thats why everything is "manual" despite being futuristic space nonsense.
But... making droids usefull means making them "near sentient." The problem being that droids fairly regularly gain personalities. So they have to be regularly memory wiped. This is largely unexplored in the movies.
@@Pistonrager There's a lot that can be argued with that, but...By Disney's own rules, if it exists outside of the original movies, it's not canon unless it's mentioned BY Disney in which case we're back to it being an invention of Disney as Disney frequently cherry picks from the EU and manipulates it to their own need, which is why Clone Wars retcons a lot of things and why The Mandalorian is a completely disaster.
@@zeroryuj6093 i choose to ignore Disney making stupid decisions about canon.
@@Pistonrager As do I. But that's the over all point of my comment, the "Droid rights" issue was never in the OT or prequels, but it's been in near enough (if not all) movies, shows and even games now with Star Wars: Outlaws that Disney has made and frankly, it's beyond irritating at this point.
They're bent on fabricating this non issue that no one has ever cared about and trying to make some grand allegory/talking point.
The 10 hr version of this is one of my favorite videos on RUclips. The group of voices you collected to discuss this silly movie was fantastic. Thanks
Maybe Rise of Skywalker is Finn's dying brain fart as he breathes his last on the salt plains of Krayt after Rose Tico has crashed into him, and just before a gorilla AT-AT crushes his corpse.
"I am all the Jedi" why do I get the feeling someone was bit into the Legend of Kora?
6:40 im willing to bet if you told Kathleen Kennedy that the sequel trilogy makes the original trilogy useless and skippable, she'd probably "ohhh... that's bad." while smiling really wide. then she gets in her ride and goes to have a disney party to celebrate.
I’m listening to this on an early morning shift and I heard the word “McMuffin” so much during this I just ordered one 😂
Jay (kicked) but not forgoten.
Just kicked, God willing.
Ironic, episode 66 is when star wars order 66'd itself. It only went down from here.
TROS is at least the funniest SW movie ever made
I can't be TOO mad at JJabrams. The Last Jedi literally set everything on fire and left nothing to work with
You're talking as if the force awaken wasn't a shitty retelling of episode IV that killed Han solo for no reason.
ah, fond memories watching in it while doing midterm internship and losing my shit laughing, one of the GOAT episodes of the show
Something that’s always annoyed me about the ships not being able to just go up, it implies that in a universe where FTL is a very common technology the basic concept of a gyroscope is nonexistent. It’s literally a general rule of physics, it’s how even a basic bicycle stays up right. Even submarines have been using them for decades for underwater navigation, and JJ believes in a world where light sabers exist no one has thought to install a spinning wheel to tell them which way is up
10:42 Great idea but wouldn't sell toys
I bet they dropped the Finn x Rey thing to appeal to a certain country that is not very fond of such a relation but has a very big paying audience.
Why now? The original is 4 years old... all this reminds me of is that Jay Exci is still not back after half a year. I miss them, I hope they are OK, wherever they are.
He's taken a break due to mental health reasons I think.
Would love to see him back.
@@ThomasCostigan Yeah..... I know that. I read their community page. But thanks for sharing the info, I hope they return whenever they are ready.
That desert world scene is also absurd. I once worked out that funding the exact ground opening at the exact time of the festival was roughly 1 in 1.5 sextillion chance, or in the same broad ballpark as finding a specific grain of sand. That's not even including the odds if Lando being in the right place at the right time either...
One of the top tier EFAP episodes, delving into a horrible movie straight from the poop dimension.
The more I listen to this episode the more I think "they don't know which way is up out there" was meant to be a figure of speech and everyone took it literally.
Imagine if the sequel trilogy had been phenomenal. The ramifications would be felt to this day. Everyone not named Adam Driver and Oscar Isaac would still have careers. Galaxy’s Edge would be packed every day. The franchise wouldn’t be irrelevant. Disney wouldn’t be reliant on key jangle to make fans excited about new projects.
"Somehow Palpatine returned."
- Jar Jar Abrams, the next Spielberg.
The comments on the potential of Asoka, heard again years later, after the series, are quite comical... 😂
Another annoying thing about finn not becoming a jedi is before the 7th movie, a book was written and came.out before the film called "star wars: before the awakening" it was about ray, finn, and poe and what they were doing before the film. In the book finn is a hand to hand/ melee weapon specialist. They establish that finn is the best in his whole unit when it comes to fighting up close and personal. Meanwhile in the films he always is weilding the lightsaber like an utter bafoon. Mind he isnt trained in the force and whatnot, his saber technique sould be significant
Remember the good ol' days of *checks callendar* 2019 when a product as recent as Fallen Order reminded us even hyperspace can take days and weeks when crossing the galaxy? I remember that.
This is infinitely funnier now that Mauler and Fringy have seen Ahsoka. I wonder if Fringo still would want Ahsoka in the sequel trilogy now 😅
1:02:45
RoS vs TLJ
TLJ is RYAN's screw-up. He came in and just trainwrecked a big hole with a Holdo-like move.
JJ gets the last word and drops the ball hard. TFA was his start-off. Then he gets the chance to fix Ryan's mess, but instead, he ruins everything else.
They're still a close tie for worst, but it seems JJ has more responsibility for the whole.
41:57 dogs can’t look up
This entire EFAP is a highlight.
Exactly their mission: …marketing to girls who would prefer George Lucas Star Wars.
Jar jar abrams has zero business in this industry if he writes like this and neither does rian Johnson
OGs remember the bulging eyeballs in the thumbnail from the before times. God, that was a blast from the past. Lol
30:00 The whole saga went from being Anakin's story to being Palpatine's story, we get to see is pre emperor life, then how he reigned in the OT and finished with how he controlled "everything" from the shadows. Its not great, but I prefer that to some of the other possibility.
I don't know if I or others have pointed this out yet, but what's Shad is essentially suggesting on the 11:00 mark (about Rey being the main antagonist and Finn being the unexpected hero) was done in Star Wars before, with the KOTOR series. Revan was the former dark lord turned mysterious protagonist trying to save Bastilla, a prodigy Jedi who succumbed to the dark side, mostly because of him. Like Revan, Finn would be the grim, scarred war veteran finding a deep connection with the untouchable flower girl, as he tries to save that one person that saved him from the brink as well. In fact, the dyad pish with Rey and Kylo is just the force bond between Revan and Bastilla.
JJ and LucasFilm had a blueprint staring right at their faces and all they achieved was just a discount version of Revan's posse.
The Force Awakens was worse
The Rise of Skywalker was worser
The Last Jedi was worsest!
“THEY FLY NOW!!??”
“THEY FLY NOW! THEY DON’T KNOW WHICH WAY IS UP, BUT YES THEY FLY NOW!”
54:00 Ive had several people online and offline say that they gave it a higher/lower score then they wanted, because they didnt like the average score it had at that moment.
And people trying to deflate/inflate the score because they heard other people do the same...
The *only* things from this movie that I liked was the new Y-Wing Fighter design and the TIE Dorito. That’s it. I’m so glad that I never once watched this pile of putrid piss puke.
Those Star Destroyers managed to fly up through the ground by moving upward, as soon as they break the surface they go “ooooookay and which way now??”
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MauLer: .. finding McMuffin 3, that leads to McMuffin 2,..
Rags: it's all very complicated
17:32
Misheard that as "it's all very cupcake" and had to double check - would have been such a Rags thing to say 😂
I was just thinking through how much of the series you could skip if we accept the ST’s canonicity.
You need some critical information about who the OT cast is so you can’t completely skip the OT. And, to understand who the Emperor is, you can’t really skip the PT.
I think you’d watch The Phantom Edit for the PT, watch episodes 4 and 5, learn that Vader and the Emperor somehow died but then the Emperor somehow came back, then watch episode 7, learn that Luke and Snoke died, then 9. Phantom Edit cuts out most of TPM and AotC so basically 1.5 movies, cut out episode 6 for another, cut out episode 8 for another. So out of the 9 episodes, you wouldn’t need to watch over a trilogy worth to get the complete story. That’s depressing.
If kylo was trying to kill her, why is he going 40mph in his "Spaceship?" Why is he not going mach 7
A better question would be that, if Kylo WAS trying to kill her, then why didn't he just shoot her down.
cause kylo is the most inconsitent character - before somehow palpatine returned -
He could be flying triple the speed of sound and then some. She'd never even see him coming. It would be a sudden red mist
But if you skip the OT, you'd never watch any of the rest of the movies on purpose.
The Exogol thing blew my mind. Dude you're in a spaceship! Look out the window, if you see no planet just go, you'll be fine thats space. And dont get me started with the horses lol...just roll the ship and they'll fall off.
I think I can explain why Ep 9 is so much more palatable to normies: Star Wars was already dead. All it did was disrespect a dead body while kicking the crap out of TLJ which committed the actual murder. That was satisfying. If you have buried your dead, gone through the stages of grief and moved on, then there is only the satisfaction of seeing Rian's work dismantled and p*ssed on. 86%, booyah.
But if you're still in the bargaining stage, holding onto things like Anakin's sacrifice, then there are all these fresh wounds that keep you from enjoying the revenge, which is really all it could offer.
What's even more insane is how, to this day, audience score on rotten tomatoes for this movie is STILL 86% !!!
Need I remind anyone that in the Star Wars universe even small craft are able to routinely navigate across the vastness of space? I know Abrams got handed a turd but couldn't he have come up with a better way to polish it?
11:23 Oh wow.
That's Shad? So cool...
41:01 they could've logically explained this slightly with his backstory. The ship is the First Order Star Destroyer, while the sith Star Destroyers obviously look like the Empire's Star Destroyers. Of course Finn would point out that ship since he's familiar with the design (not to mention Finn and Poe escape the same type of Destroyer in TFA). But oh well, he had a feeling
"Ren has gone mad. As much as hate your pitiful Alliance, there should be order in empire. Snoke brought order. Ren is nothing but chaos, like the rest of the sith. Uh..anyway...so yknow.. that's why I'm the spy."
A line Hux could have said...
honestly i was hoping that finn would be the non force sensitive sparing partner for rey, he'd use the one storm trooper melee weapon and she'd use the light saber, or they'd use other things and switch it up.
Waste of potential, I really thought Poe and Finn had more chemistry together than Rey, a story of a Rebel member joining forces with an ex Stormtrooper that could become a new Jedi had a lot of potential.
But unfortunatelly Finn was not a KK self insert so he had no chance of getting the spotlight.
There is no way Kylo could seem like a threat.
He lost twice back to back, losing at fighting and getting outwitted.
He's a loser.
Reminder that TO THIS DAY Rise of Skywalker on Rotten Tomatoes AUDIENCE RATING did not inch a percent. You can find videos and clips of it being 86% with 10k reviews, or 20k reviews in the first month of movie's release. Its up to 50k reviews these days, and still its not 87%, not 85%. Not changes. It was just that good huh.
Lore wise most droids have their memory wiped so they don't gain personalities and possibly goes against their programming
In the Clone Wars this is memory wiping was supposed to be done to stop information getting into the separatists hand but Anakin didn't do it
I think this was the first stream I caught Live after discovering who EFAP were
I can't stop laughing at how wrong I was that Star Wars couldn't get worse after TLJ. I guess, in a way, they really did subvert my expectations after all. It's just a shame that they lack the ability to surpass them instead.
The only content that Disney made that I will watch is Rogue One, Andor, and 2 seasons of Mandalorian since they compliment what came before and not try to tear down and destroy.
The face of a child says it all. Especially the mouth part of the face.
That thumbnail confused me and I was expecting a pitch-meeting.
I swear to god, malicious bad will always be leagues worse than incompetent bad. Rise of Skywalker was disappointing, Last Jedi just made me furious. The Rise of Skywalker was the twist of a knife, but the stab wound done by the Last Jedi so big and severe that I was long dead by that point.
Another suggestion for these shorts. In the weird off chance anyone is interested in the visuals or the chat of the clips, maybe instead of blurring the entire screen to show a time stamp, you can put a large tab on the top or side like on a filing folder. You can have a simple tab with the time stamp come down, and still with the stock sounds as a "notification", then have it go back up or out or something.
I don't think they ever would have let Finn beat evil Rey, but it would have been super cool to see the final movie/fight being 1v2: Rey/Kylo being evil pair and Finn bringing her back to the light side so it's 2v1 with their friendship being the focus (choose your family vs. lackluster focus on Skywalker bloodline, which to be fair, I guess was her choosing her family posthumously?). Would also be nod to the Darth Maul 2v1 fight from the prequels. I guess her being brought back to the light side is similar to Ben's rushed 3rd movie arc, but def remove the force healing turncoating.
I suppose in 2nd movie, you could have similar, but from that scene where Luke sees her reaching for the darkness, she actually succumbs by the end of the movie, so then a truly disheveled Luke in 3rd movie has to get over that 2nd failure (compounds his mistake with Ben at the academy even though that probably needs to be reworked still for the sake of Luke's legacy; I am a fan, however, of even the most noble heroes falling at some point, so I'd probably keep the betrayal but not make it attempted murder, just he misstepped in his mentor role to Ben badly somehow) and train Finn to become a Jedi to win his friend back and right Luke's wrong. Then if you want to go bonkers, you have the projected Luke from end of TLJ make it a 2v2 final fight for a short time (projection broken to save Finn, nod to Obi death in OG?): Finn/Luke vs Rey/Kylo (latter nod to throne room fight which I'd like to keep, but probably rework to be part where she accepts Dark Side by taking Kylo's offer).
Perfect world, have the final fight at that planet from 1st movie fight at nighttime in the snow again, or in the crater that broke up her and Kylo's 1st movie end fight, but I honestly don't remember if that planet/scene was still in play; it's been a while. My pitch probably also banks on less nostalgia, as I'm mostly using Luke, but I suppose Chewie is still helping out with the Falcon/Poe, Leia is still Commander. Force ghost or whatever Han I think definitely gets cut, makes his death more impactful. Maybe his voice somewhere in final fight if Ben is also brought back to the Light Side. Knights of Ren could also be used more in 3rd movie if it's Evil Rey and Kylo leading them.
Would have to do my research, but I just got hyped thinking of what could have been (granted, we've seen these tropes before, who hasn't).
Why was a navigation tower built on a First Order Star Destroyer, and NOT ANY of the sith Star Destroyers in the Final Order
JJ Directing is Tim Curry at the end of Clue?
The movie should have ended with Rey saying, "Rey. Rey Dameron."
What episode was Wolf’s last episode?
What’s sad is that Kylo could’ve survived his crash landing in the TIE fighter if Disney didn’t do everything in their power to nerf Jedi/Sith. A Legends powered Kylo could’ve survived but the one we got should be pasted by their own rules
Why no Shadiversity in the description?
Wolf HATES shad
My mistake - I was rushing to get this video out on time and must've overlooked it. It's added now.
@@EFAPHighlights Neat.
citation is i'm lying@awhellnah__
Finn: "You have to snap out of it, Rey! This isn't you!"
Rey: "Wrong. For the first time I feel like my life makes sense! Join me, Finn! Come to the Dark Side and then you can let *others* clean the floors of Star Destroyers for you!"
"toward the end of my TFA series"
yeah...