The "Do it all" god Mage: D&D
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- This is the god sorcerer, maximum spell versatility with excellent Battlefield Control, Debuffing and Buffing options.
Warning: The "completed" character does not have the correct Clockwork magic spells due to D&D Beyond not having the ability to switch Clockwork magic spells, but here is the link:
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However, since this video has been made, I've been sent this fix for D&D Beyond Clockwork sorcerers - check it out:
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
3:10 Goals of the Build
5:44 Level 1
16:10 Level 2
22:10 Level 3
24:20 Level 4
29:17 Level 5
31:59 Level 6 (and Recap)
38:37 Level 7
45:10 Level 8
49:40 Level 9
52:21 Level 10
55:19 Level 11 (and Recap)
1:00:02 Level 12&13
1:01:25 Level 14&15
1:03:01 Level 16&17
1:04:19 Level 18&19
1:07:00 Level 20 (and recap)
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Love how modest you're trying to be. "Got me a little know in the optimization community"
Every guide written after yours kept trying to copy you. Lol
I'm not to familiar with optimization history. Did he do the blue green thing first or something?
@@batterylevellow5473 That's the thing.
@@MrNikolasMorith Oh my god
@@MrNikolasMorith Seriously?!
@@batterylevellow5473 yep
When the God Wizard Author talks about a God Mage....i listen and click like.
When someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES.
A God wizard with no wizard 😁
@@mcullennz that sound the OZ-car right Dorothy 😏
@@mcullennz Treant is the god wizard he refers to, the build being a god mage is different and broader
Good news Treantmonk, Order Domain Cleric was also added into Tasha's Cauldron of Everything
Clockwork Soul is the subclass that's reinvigorated the Sorcerer kick for me. The spell choice just feels almost endless, it's so exciting!
I did too! Really excited to make one, might actually take sorceror straight instead of multiclass like I have for years!
@@philwalsworth4085 I have this recurring character I play that is a martial sorcerer, and clockwork inspired me to remake him with this subclass. A lot of the things you get lend really well to playing a melee character. Armor of Agathys + the 6th level ability makes for a surprisingly tanky character. Before I was using Draconic for the free mage armor and +1 HP, but I think Clockwork just adds so much, plus it makes me excited to build it.
Honestly it is so good for a sorlock as well. The fact that it can remove disadvantage fixes a big issue with the base build which is melee enemies. That plus the insane versatility of the spells (originally I would go divine soul for more versatility this gives even more spells so awesome)
Plus it makes going polearm master with a sorlock a viable strategy. When they enter your reach as a reaction you can blast out 4 eldritch blasts the first one without disadvantage due to the ability. And the rest without disadvantage due to no longer being in reach. That combined with the extra survivability
I started homebrewing other sorcerers to have expanded spell list for my groups games. Divine soul gets to choose domain spells instead of picking an alignment. Doing this from all origins really spices up the class.
Clockwork soul is definitely the next sorcerer I'm playing. For a subclass whose flavor is seemingly based on enforcing rigid normalcy, it's lovely to see how flexible and open-ended it is mechanically.
Personally, I like the idea of a character who gets their magic from order, vut has to make their choices in a chaotic manner (planning a Warforged or a Kenku who can't decide on complex choices alone, so they use dice to decide stuff).
@@WinterPains I like that concept! I myself am planning a gambler who's unnaturally lucky until they're "cursed" with a connection to Mechanus for being too improbable. They find out they can use Mechanus's energies to fuel their powers later in life.
@@hyruleenigma I like that. Obviously the Gambler background. Likely with the Lucky feat. Perhaps a halfling as well?
@@WinterPains it'd be a shame not to!
@@hyruleenigma I'm also really into Artificer right now.
My current favourite flavourful build is an Anubis Cleric.
Obviously a Grave Cleric, mutliclassed into a Battle Smith Artificer who fights with a scythe (reflavoured glaive), has a Jackal Steel Defender, and uses magic bandage-like cloth he weaved himself (Weaver's Tools).
I think you missed the fact that when you bump your wisdom to 14, you get a third cleric spell to prepare each day. Small bump, but a bump nonetheless
Nice, that leaves room for Healing Word which seems borderline broken with Voice of Authority. Trading a bonus action 1st level spell slot for a rogue sneak attack is just crazy.
resilient wis feat to not become frightened etc.
so he gets wis to 14 eventually
Checking in a year later if you have access to silvery barbs you get to debuff, buff, and use voice at the same time. Use wither and bloom to damage, heal, and voice at the same time.
Now you can tank, dps, heal, buff, and debuff all at the same time.
If dm allows strixhaven background (even without the feat) you take quandrix so that circle of power opens up to you
That's what I did, but we had a 35 point, point buy and a free first lvl feet for any race. The other casters are baffled by my spell list haha
Wood elves can also "ignore" the heavy armor penalty
Well, not really, but with a base walking speed of 35, with the 10' penalty, they're at the same as a dwarf who ignores the penalty
I was thinking about this. I mean, the dwarf "suffers no penalty..." beyond being a dwarf. But, being a dwarf IS a movement penalty.
So, besides Wood Elves, there's the Centaurs, Leonins, Dhampirs and Satyrs. Plus the atypical movement boosts for Tabaxis and Orcs, and the Feral Tiefling only gives up 1AC (swapping to med armor) for flight.
I'm not saying anything against the Hill Dwarf choice. Just saying that the racial choice isn't as limited as that.
I think the bonus hp made the difference and i get why!
My lvl 5 wizard has 25 hp cause i rolled for hp and had a 14...ill never play a caster that squishy agin!^^
How does he wield a shield and cast spells?
@@levipeterken4020 with the other hand? My paladin/sorcerer has a morning star or lance in one hand and a shield in the other and still casts spells. Gotta be sure they're verbal only or a paladin spell where I can use my shield/holy symbol. For spells like Shield, I have to use subtle spell.
@@levipeterken4020 to be safe put your holy symbol as an emblem so it can be on armor or shields, sorcerers can use arcane focus (I recommend staff for the use as a quarter staff until you can get a blood well vial and use the necklace to get around everything.
For a fix on D&D beyond for Clockwork Soul, see the video description. Also, I was reminded that the Order domain is in Tasha's, but for some reason I couldn't select it in D&D B without Magic content turned on.
My work around was to create a Homebrew based of the subclass. I was able to edit the spell list that way and still have all the other abilities. Not the easiest way, but it works.
Just want to give a shout out to the Protection from Good and Evil spell. If you’re character happens to find themselves Barovia, or the hells, for example, I would consider it a top tier, low resource, buff spell. Not to mention that it works great with both Twin Spell, Voice of Authority, and it doesn’t even need to push out any of your spells known, as your Cleric preparations allow you to pick it up as needed.
my paladin in Barovia has used this to great effect, esp the can't be charmed or frightened part against hags. Concentration does eventually get lost, but as the only tank has allowed me to draw fire just by proximity. Getting Haste next level but hate the lose a round effect when dropping Concentration.
I just need to say, I'm so happy to see you do an Order Cleric 1 / Sorcerer X build finally. Back before TCoE came out I played a very similar character with Divine Soul, focusing purely on buff spells (since Dwarves couldn't boost CHA back then, and it was also just fun to play without ever taking an ASI). I figured that Clockwork soul could probably be used to better effect, and glad o see I was proven right.
I appreciate your acknowledgement that aberrant mind sorcerer is a more popular subclass, but you strongly support your feelings for the clockwork soul! Force cage alone is hard to argue with, if the campaign gets to that level. Also, this build has one of the best single level dips I've ever seen.
I've been waiting for this build ever since the clockwork soul got officially released! Thank you
This is how I've wanted the sorcerer's mechanic to work, I'm so happy.
This build is great!
When TreantMonk makes a caster video, and it's an hour. I know I'm in for it. Amazing work always. You know the game so well.
This channel is so good. For a seemingly simple system like 5e ive found tones of things I hadn't considered on these videos.
Holy shit! I didn’t know you had a RUclips channel!! Your wizard guide forever changed how I view the class. Thank you sir!
The perfect build doesn't ex... Well take me sideways through Limbo, this is awesome.
Me, "Sorcerers should get free spells like clerics."
Friends, "That's too powerful, if they ever did the spells would suck."
WotC, "I got you fam, here you go."
I've been playing with this build almost identical to this, and I took ritual caster with that 13 Wisdom. I will say, traditionally sucky metamagic like Distant and Extended are actually good on this build. Two hour Agathys is great for dungeon crawls, and 16 hour Aid is perfection. Staying in range with counterspell, dispel magic, and the buff spells (touch and otherwise), is wonderful for this build
Doesn't distant not work with counterspell? Since the "Casting time" specifically says "a reaction when a creature within 60' casts a spell"
and not
"a reaction when a creature within range casts a spell"?
So the range of counterspell gets doubled to 120', but you can still only use it on a target within 60?
@@adamkaris that’s an incredibly strict raw reading. I guess folks should take that up with their dm beforehand. I’m a pretty strict raw dm, and even I would allow that asterisk to match the spell’s described range
@@adamkaris Typically the response by CP is that the mechanics that more focused (Sorcerer Metamagic over Spell) is the suggested mechanic to follow unless there is a specific statement addressing the topic in the books.
It was probably your guide that first keyed me in to why Bless is usually better than Bane, and it's the same problem to solve that your one-shot players faced: enemies don't want to be affected by your spells, but your allies do. So, thanks!
I'm playing this build with a few alterations and I absolutely love it. My DM has a bunch of 3rd party content and UA available so I've switched a few things up. Right now we're at lvl 5 and I'm feeling like the most powerful charecter at the table, but doing it in such a way that I'm never overshadowing the other charecters at the table. Fist time playing a god wiz and I love it. Thanks for the build Chris!!!
I saw a Reddit discussion going over this build. Took a few comment strings to get the right answers but I like just watching a video over it. Thanks!
Recently i made a Hexblade Aberrant Mind character, i felt like it was super optimized (although i focused a little bit more on damage, but still), but after some of your arguments in this video i see a lot of flaws on my build. Also i grew to appreciate the clockwork soul a little more (when i read it at first, i didn't think it was nearly as good as aberrant mind), the spell list on this subclass is a lot better than the aberrant mind gets. Keep it up, i like your optimizations ideas a lot .
*casts command on the rogue* "Attack!"
I like the idea here I imagine you were going for sort of a Battle Master concept but wouldn't this just be a waste of a spell? The command issued by the command spell doesn't take place until a creatures turn as stated in spell. So a rogue would not milk another sneak attack nor would they gain any advantage from this other than the clerics ability to give them a reaction attack. Which is perfectly fine but sort of a waste of a spell slot when you could just hit them with a buff all the same.
@@slickrickard fairly sure that the idea is that the rogue just hides and never attacks lol. had one of those in my last campaign >.>
@@slickrickard it was a joke, my dude
Edit: I was shocked that he didn't mention Minor Illusion first in his list of cantrips.
Nobody would have been more shocked than me if I didn't take it!
This is probably one of my favorite builds that i've seen you make.
Thank you for posting this build - its phenomenal! I started playing Descent into Avernus with a group of players less interested in optimizing. It’s great to help them out without overshadowing them. Really fun!
I wouldn't get rid of lesser/greater restoration, they are not obtainable later if I change my mind about the spell selection. Besides that, this is probably the best character build i've seen in a while :D
There should probably be an errata that you could change it back to the original spells on the list...
@@godminnette2 that would be perfect
Depends on whether you've already got a cleric or druid in the party. If so, you really don't need these on your spell list.
I assume since he is doing a Sorcerer he isn't trying to fill those roles. I agree he could, but sounds like that is low on his priority list. If he wanted those spells he would play those classes.
I still prefer Aberrant Mind because of the theme and all the lovely mind control + improved subtle spell, but you've definitely shown how ridiculously versatile clockwork is.
I have an NPC I run in my games who was a warlord in 4th edition and what you've made here evokes that really well for me. Thanks for the video!
I always find it ironic that the class that works best with an Order cleric is Rogues.
Great build as always.
Awesome build! Love it! Really good, simple, to the point, and sounds like a ton of fun to play.
Took tiny servant for my build with this. Anytime I drop a hypnotic pattern, poison dragons breath or synaptic static the tiny servant can use their voice of authority reaction attack.
dude, your videos are always so awesome, informative, and helpful!
Wonderfull as allways. God I missed a mage build made by you. Colby keeps scratching the itch but this is the real deal! Thanks!
I love your attitude to optimizeation, I love to rp but also have strong builds but a lot of people ignore the practical aspect of playing at a table with it. I followed this video for a character of mine a couple months ago and had so much fun, thank you x
Another use of Restore Balance would be to help your rogue teammate as it prevents the disadvantage from making sneak attacks not happen.
rogue teammate got knocked unconcious? step next to that enemy, use healing word to revive the rogue, voice of authority triggers and the rogue can attack with reaction, restore balance to remove disadvantage and because you are next to the enemy the rogue can sneak attack
I just finished a campaign that actually surprisingly got to level 20 and my friend used this build while I played the peace cleric 1/chronurgy wizard 19 from tabletop builds and it was such a blast. We really had an answer to basically every problem, and at no point did any of the other players feel overshadowed. The DM didn't even feel upset at how optimized we were. Thank you so much for putting this build together.
This is now my favorite character concept, its so nice to have a answer for everithing!
Wicked! Nice to see how effective that "swap out spells" thing can be. Super impressive caster that is very tempting to play.
I do like a good buff. Metagaming, as an Arcane Caster climbs in Level, the whole issue of "how can I contribute without overshadowing the rest of the party?" starts coming up. When I hit that point in Bilbron Bafflestone's game, I started buffing all the time (even though it's technically suboptimal) and great fun was had by all. My party Martials started getting addicted to that sweet sweet Haste juice, lol... and I had Spell Storing items so had plenty to spread around.
Haste does kinda sound like a drug...
Awesome build, gave me so many ideas for the tiefling clock sorlock I am about to play on Strahd.
That is a great build and a firm argument to the power of the Dwarf and the clockwork soul. I would have thought I never would really want those two flavors together but I like it.
I love how RUclips auto-captions starts your videos with "Hey upton answers". Yep. I'm an Upton Answer alright!
(Now to actually watch the video)
I keep coming back to this one, it's a really good build
Greater Restoration should stay on your list if you don't have a cleric/druid in your party, as when it comes up, its very important that you had it. But if you do, those two classes can prepare that spell when needed.
For anyone reading this 2 years later, I agree with both lesser and Greater restoration as options to keep depending on your campaign. If the one cleric is paralyzed, you can lesser restoration them and give them a attack afterwards. Maybe that matters, maybe not.
Same with your one other spellcaster with greater restoration memorized is petrified. Greater restoration removes petrified and gives them an attack maybe.
And that's just if it's the cleric. If it's another character that's blinded or charmed and the cleric needs to get a PC up with a spell or potion other than healing word, having the option to restoration someone else means the party gets two PCs back in one turn and helps avoid a death spiral.
Thank you so much for this video. I had been struggling trying to figure out how to build my character cause I wanted to play a trader/merchant kind of character which obviously does well with charisma but I wasn't feeling bard at all and wanted arcane casting but sorcerer just felt lacking in choices. This completely solves all my problems, though I won't be quite as tanky since I already decided to be a changeling for my backstory XD
Voice of authority+ healing word + restore balance = making your friend who just went down super happy.
Also, VOA + silvery barbs
VOA also works great with ranged martials and vortex warp, thunder step or dimension door. The healing from Wither and Bloom might also be appresiated.
I love the explanation for why Fireball is included: because the best crowd control effect is Dead.
you are the best man, i love and respect you and your content ,each video. "CONTINUA COSI FENOMENO"!!!
Here for the content - liking the great work that you do, and this comment is just for the algorithm - keep it up!
42:21 "Haste *always* works"
Cannot stress this point enough. I have a wizard who has a beautiful suite of battlefield control and debuff spells, but when you can't utilize a Hypnotic Pattern, and Slow just doesn't do anything to the enemy, Haste is a great way to still be effective with my casting.
I can't agree enough. Every time the opposition is heavy on resistances, immunities and Legendary resistances (which is often, on higher levels), I am grateful to have trusty Haste on my side.
Just cast Haste on a barbarian and watch the body parts fly.
With twinned spell Haste can be casted on two most damaging weapon users in the party, they will love sorcerer for this. Fantastic spell.
@@FelineElaj can recommend
One other thing haste has is a wave of lethargy after the spell ends. Makes maintaining concentration on it really important, but I can't help but think that there would be ways to use this on an enemy - just cast it on them, then drop concentration when its convenient.
That's one hell of a build! Incredible versatility.
I believe Order Domain was reprinted in Tasha's, so no need to have MTG content.
This build seems awesome! Definitely gonna play this in my next game.
I used a 6th level version of this build with a Warforged to join a friend's game that needed an extra player and it was awesome having so much utility for the party. Just wanted to say thanks for the fun build!
When I heard u first mention 'God Wizard' years ago this is the type of build I thought of. 👍
I really enjoyed this video, and it is an amazing build!
I have never been interested in playing a dwarf, though. I don’t know why.
Thematically, I am much more interested in the flavor and role-play opportunities of an Aberrant Mind Sorcerer. I am eager to see what you do with it! 👍🏻
RAW for level 18 ability repairs Staff of Magi that was used in retributive strike.
...every day after a long rest. That and capitalism and we got a fortune few hundred buisness going.
After you snap it in half, the two halves will take fuckloads of force damage, and i don't know if you can repair things after they've been reduced to thin wisps of smoke...
I am playing a cronurgy wizard with dips in Tempest domain cleric. I used to play a semi-blaster but after watching your god wizard story video, I wanted to make my cronurgy wizard similar. Having the ability to grant re-rolls to allies/ force opponents to reroll has made me realize this subclass can also be a god mage of sorts. In earlier sessions, my wizard would fight alongside the party sometimes showing up the tanks, now he hangs back, gives a greater invisibility bead to the rogue, hastens the barbarian and enjoys those clutch fate altering reactions (he has lucky so counterspells have advantage) and anyone else gets advantage on saving throws from Chronal Shift
I went a slightly different route for my level 5 Var. Human CS sorc, starting off with Metamagic Adept and Ritual Caster targeting the Wizard list, to create a character that not only has more spells available to cast then a Wizard, but doesn't even sacrifice the ritual functionality, having all the great stuff there. Also because they seemed fitting for this "gung ho sorcerer that believes he's a wizard" build, he got the Quicken and Subtle metamagics from Metamagic Adept in addition to Distant and Heightened. Heightened specifically to increase the chances one of those potent control spells takes effect on the target, and Distant because Counterspell at 120 feet solves the main issue with Counterspell.
Thanks for the awesome guide. I'll have to consider this for a character. My most recent favorites were divine soul+hexblade as a half drow and a mark of healing halfling artificer 1 then divination wizard. Both were a ton of fun to play with lots of options.
That is a game-changing build.
Throwing a synaptic static at a hydra is the only case where you can target a single creature.
I really like this! I'm early into a campaign (just leveled up to L5) as an aberrant mind sorcerer, and finding you're right about the clockwork sorcerer spell list is possibly the far better subclass list over all, but our campaign is much more social orientated than combat, so I'm getting a lot of use out of things like Detect thoughts, calm emotions, and Sending. So what I would point out about this list is that at most levels is that pretty much every spell choice is focused on combat casting.
This is fine, but there are going to be a lot of campaigns that involve less combat and more social interactions, or heists etc, where different spell choices actually make more sense, so as optimised and amazing as this is (and it really is and I've learnt a lot about spell choice order from it!), it shouldn't be everything you need to consider when picking your spells.
Final note is I love the order cleric one level dip for the L1 Class feature. Really creative way to make this *also* a damage build! It's got a very similar feel/effect to hasting a rogue who then holds their haste action to attack as a reaction!
After playing 2 sessions with my version of this build, it has been a blast (level 6). From dispel magic to fairyfire and haste, aid and gift of alacrity (meta magic extended so it lasts through a long rest) silvery barbs, and most spells causing free reaction attacks. I even lighting lured a gnoll into a pit. Never a dull spell!
With Fey Touched, I would recommend getting Dissonant Whispers instead of Tasha's Hideous Laugher. The Dissonant Whispers can trigger a lot of opportunity attacks, and if twinned can make two melee creatures waste their turn. Crucially, it does not use concentration, so it ages a lot better than Tasha's.
I agree. Dissonant whispers is excellent.
Isn't Dissonant Whispers unwilling movement? If so it wouldn't proc opportunity attacks, much like being pushed away from an opponent
@@Zepherus14 The spell forces the creature to use its reaction to move.
The text for opportunity attacks states that you don't provoke one "when you teleport or when someone or something moves you without using your movement, action, or reaction."
Since Dissonant Whispers makes you use your reaction to move, you do provoke opportunity attacks.
@@civilbeard Had to look it up... I... I am very confused, it appears you're right! I... don't know where I read that then? I know it's from something... How very very strange.
BUT! Thank you very much for clearing that up, I have learned something new today!
@@Zepherus14 maybe you got confused with booming blade, which requires the movement to be intentional (?)
I loved this build, and will be playing this next game when I get the chance. Half way through, I thought you would go forge domain cleric, but order domain works so much better. With this range of spells, I may have gone spell sniper and distant spell sorcerer points to make sure you don't have problems with people out of range. This character is a monster!
I want to mention, you say you won't be casting command, but it is actually a really good spell to trigger voice of authority. Just command your ally to attack.
Notice how we don't have any other first level spell that can safely target an ally and doesn't require concentration, that is why command is deceptively good on this build.
Im actually doing this with with the parties bbeg right now. A charismatic religious figure type. Loads of flavor and fun mechanics!
Or just cast healing word
@@prixiusnecrolance8531 I don't know how I missed that. I have run an order cleric/bard, where I always use my bonus action to inspire. So maybe that is why I didn't think about it.
Issue there is that once the creature does the command they end their turn. So if you command an ally to attack they cannot use a bonus action or their movement nor choose the optimal target. They must attack the nearest creature within range and then end their turn.
@@agilemind6241 well, it will depend on interpretation, but you can always order them to fight, or whatever else you can come up with that is non-disruptive
I have a soft spot for the Order Domain, especially that first level ability. Glad to see it being used here.
“Hey upton answers chris here”
Fantastic build!! (I'd have mentioned Demiplane for 8th level spells. As long as the DM is on board, it's a super useful utility.)
I'd also love to know your opinion of what spells to switch out if you are also the party transport and need Teleport & Planeshift.
What do you think about swapping enlarge/reduce for suggestion? I think suggestion + subtle spell is a great combo in social situations. Is there a different second level spell that would be better to swap?
You beautiful bastard. I just found this video. 7months ago was running a mini campaign for Forever DM's. I had two of these sorcerers along with two rogues spring this build on me out of nowhere.
A comment for support. Thanks for the video.
Came here from D4 deep dive and inadvertently recommended this exact combo before coming here. Should have known the master builder already found it
You've convinced me on the clockwork sorcerer.
Impressive! While this character doesn't get some of the insanity of an end-game wizard, the mid-game versatility is amazing, and in all honesty I've NEVER naturally gotten to 17-20 in a game. They always end around 15, and we maybe come back for a max level one shot. This character looks like it would make those first 15 levels smooth as butter, and the end game still gets wish (were I to ever get there)!
Yep, the goal of every Sorcer, Wizard, and Arcana Cleric Lvl 17 in the class.
Let me start with saying that I love your channel. Sometimes I disagree with your assessments and builds, but I always love your thought process. You said that you are going to play this character; I think it would be interesting to revisit this build after you get into higher levels (14-17) and talk about why you may have deviated from your initial ideas for the build, if at all. I'd like to here about what works or doesn't work after a hard play test at your table.
Thanks again for you work.
We'll see if I ever get a chance to actually play this to higher levels. I hope so. If I do, I'll definitely consider a recap video.
Thank you.
Friggin' LOVE the Clockwork Soul Sorcerer. Gonna be playing in Rime of the Frostmaiden soon, and so looking forward to trying it out!
Rime of the Frostmaiden might not be the best campaign for the build due to Armor of Agathys doing cold damage, which is resisted a lot. But, it's still a very solid choice!
I did a very similar build with divine soul and order domain. Using extend spell aid and inspiring leader to double our hit points in the low levels. Definitely gonna try the clockwork if I run it again.
Hi @trentmonk’s temple if you were able to add a few more feats onto this build what would you choose? I guess ritual caster or metamagic adept? Would you be able to recommend a few feats you would take extra if you were allowed to. Thanks great videos as always.
THIS is why I ❤ Treantmonk SO MUCH!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Great video. Thank you
Well. This this the first time I've *ever* even considered playing a sorcerer. And this one looks amazing. Not only do you have an ever larger repertoire of spells than the wizard, but you also have charisma to be a leader outside of combat. That was my only real problem with wizards, they're never very talky.
What an amazing build!
This combines most things I love about being the party caster. They would be very happy just to have you around it's great!
I personally like to have at least one healing spell (healing ward) to buff anyone who is down. I'd also consider social spells but that definitely depends on the campaign. I am very tempted to try this instead of aberrant mind.
Question: what is your opinion on quickcast mind sliver as a metamagic option (maybe instead of careful)?
I feel like I want to build this with a warforged just for the theme.
I envision a dwarf with dwarwen mother working as a mechanic and living with a war forged who gets the father role but is the effeminate one in the couple. Biological father is a mystery and there are many rumors about his genetic dad to give some backstory potential 😁.
This build is an absolute thrill!!!
If you get access to mithril plate you definitely could do this build as Warforged
Nice thing about a Warforged is that you don't need to rely on Tasha's alternate racial rules for it to work. None of my DMs use those rules, so Hill Dwarf might not be the best race if I use this build at their tables.
i rolled some epic stats and built this as a human (had enough STR for heavy armor, enough wis to multiclass)... if I ever become unconscious without outright dying, I'll racechange to warforged. Inspired by Terminator movie
@treantmonk's temple Since you want this guy to be a buffer, instead of Tough would you have considered Inspiring leader feat ( knowing you're a charisma character ) ? I know it conflicts with Armor of Agathys but it helps other party members which is the concept you're looking for..
Perfection as usual
Nice build and i will play with tuff the buff :D but i am wondering how he can handle all the weight from his equipment? although you are negating the penatly for plate.. the character is still encumbered isnt he? and he will be not only because of the weight of his shield and plate but food/drinks and other equipment. Or am i missing something?
I'm currently playing in a campaign where we're leveling up fast and I'm trying this build.
Pros: It's awesome and effective.
Cons: We're going so fast that when he said "We're level 8 now, we've had our fun with fireball it's time for it to go." I frowned as I skipped levels 6/7 and went straight to 8 from 5 xD
Glorious build Chris!
I like your build. I’m just so old that it grinds on me that dwarves are using magic. Lol. Great video. Love it
I’ve been doing both aberrant and clockwork with the first feat being ritual caster wizard… this puts them over the top versatile for all types of play
Great video as always love the content keep it up. I'm starting get interested in playing D&D again haven't played since 3.5e what starting class or build in general would you recommend for someone that's new to 5e and doesn't know the fundamentals of everything in 5e that not to complicated and complex to use but simple to a point
....never thought of removing advantage from spell resistance....I facepalmed so hard I need a heal
Love your guide and made a fun character based on it. In practice though, I'm struggling to activate Voice of Authority more than once a fight, since almost everything that triggers it is concentration. I mostly cast bless, shield of faith, or web, then hold concentration for the fight. Am I missing something?
Also quick note that restore balance works on ability checks, so you can use it cancel out your own disadvantage for stealth rolls.
Your stealth still won't be great, of course, so you won't want to pretend you are a rogue. However, group stealth checks are not uncommon, in my experience, and are sometimes very important. Restore balance (which can be combined with magical guidance from sorcerer level 5 onward, NB) means that your heavy armor probably won't screw things up, at least.
Restore balance and darkvision also means that you can be surprisingly great at perception. Not top tier, but really good - cancel out the disadvantage from dim light, and (again) can be combined with magical guidance for those really important perception rolls.
This build in particular can really leverage both of those (and throw guidance cantrip into the mix, at that). I think it will actually get a lot of mileage out of restore balance.
Hearing your brief opinion on Bless in this video causing me to have PTSD. I have a Cleric and a Paladin in my Friday night campaign and neither of them have cast bless once (because SMITE always, amirite?). This clockwork sorcerer is super competent... I would love to hear your opinion on how to constructively motivate your players to explore their spell list and character sheets and not just use the same spells every encounter because they've heard that critical smites and Spiritual weapon are really good, thereby reliving themselves of their responsibility to be familiar with the mechanics of their character outside of their AC and Attack modifiers. I think just saying "Hey, cast Bless" (or heroism, or crusaders mantle, or Aid, or Anything really) robs them of discovering the value of a feature/spell and choosing to use it on their own.
I just started playing this build. My DM gave me an extremely tempting option for a familiar. You're right, the thought of taking ritual Caster at 4th is painful. I alittle bit of time to make the choice.
A sorcerer that isn't a one-trick pony???? Witchcraft!!! Or should I say... SORCERY!
I did a pure clock work sorc as a variant human. Took magic initiate: Warlock for Eldritch Blast and Hex. Then took eldritch adept at 4 for agonizing blast. I miss out on the armor and free interaction. But I got a really good combination of control spells from this list while using mind sliver to lower saves and then quickening a control spell to increase my chances of polymorph or hypnotic pattern to take effect. I also may switch out summon construct for banish if I'm In a campaign with alot of outsiders. Twinning banishment could be really effective.
I love the build and my DM is allowing me to switch out my TreantMonk Armadillo Wizard for this. It seems like it will play as a better version of that build, albeit built rather differently. Does this build make the Armadillo obsolete?