Can I just mention something that I didn't hear in the video about the importance of twin spell on a Divine Soul Sorcerer that makes reviving characters EVEN MORE important? When you twin revivify and raise dead etc etc, just like all other spells, you only consume the spell components once when you twin it. That 500gp diamond you found also gets double the value when you twin raise dead.
@@maid_of_heart3261 I believe that would be up to the DM, but as written, I would interpret "sole effect" as if it meant if the spell is only restoring you to life and not someone else, so the material component would still apply.
My Favored Soul Sorcerer uses twinned Healing Word - upcast as needed - all the time. While you're not quite the heal- bot that a Cleric of Life is, it's enough to make a difference..
I had two party members die to a remorrhaz in Storm King’s Thunder and I got to twin revivify them. The image in my head has always been epic and I want to get it commissioned one day.
I'm surprised you didn't mention two amazing high level spells for Divine Soul Sorcerers. Bestow Curse and Contagion are absolutely hilariously good on a Divine Soul Sorcerer. You can either use Distant metamagic to make the touch spells have a range of 30 feet, or you can use Heighten to make Bestow Curse a disadvantage save or suck spell (At higher levels non concentration spell too!). Not to mention if you get two really nasty enemies lined up next to one another you can even twin these spells to absolutely ruin those enemies day.
@@neverendar1778 only requirements are having a Range other than Self, and being incapable of targetting more than one creature. So hell yeah, divine boxer is a go!
To the people that ask why a sorcerer would be within melee range, I say...meet my white dragon draconic sorcerer shield dwarf with battleaxe/warhammer, army of agathys hueheueheuehue
Distant spell metamagic is amazing for the cleric spells that require touch. Being able to cast inflict wounds at 30 feet makes you feel like Darth Vader force choking enemies. Not to mention if someone goes down outside your range than a 120 ft healing word or a 30 ft cure wounds can keep you safe without having to wade into combat.
Absolutely. I got distant spell and healing word and I can pop people back up from incredible distances. It’s amazingly powerful as a squishy healer hiding in the back.
Played a divine soul sorcerer tortle for a while. A hippy sort that encounter something in an ocean cave. And gained some powers. The signature being absorbing salt and water out of creatures by touch. (Inflict wounds). That can be a brutal spell twinned. And the divine favour is a big help on painful misses. Had inspiring leader as a feat. Would just hang out and tell stories.
Protector Aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer here, played in a Tier 4 oneshot recently. I don't think my DM, who I've been playing with for years, has ever hated me more than when I had 4th level Spiritual Weapon, a twinned Haste on the Monk and the Paladin (which made the boss miss no fewer than 5 attacks they would have hit on) and then Counterspelled a Circle of Death that was going to mince the whole party. Good times indeed.
I’m running a DSS Protector Aasimar and I’m brand new to D&D. First campaign I’ve ever done. My DM is allowing us all a respec because we just finished a one shot to get down the basic concepts of how to play. But I have some questions, if you would be open to helping me out. Totally understand if not, but thought I’d shoot my shot anyway lol you’re the first person I’ve come across who has run the Protector Aasimar DSS.
I'm so glad this wasn't an April Fools joke! I've been asking for this video for a year and I'm so happy with this end product! One thing not mentioned extensively is the pairing of distant spell metamagic and all of the touch spells. Being able to cast touch spells from a distance of 30ft or short range spells like healing word from much greater distances is potentially huge. Especially for campaigns with long sight lines such as a ocean campaign. Anyway loved the video!
@@BrummieRoader incorrect my good man. Sunbeam says as an action you fire another beam, not recast the spell. The spell is concentration so I'm technically focused on it. I'm just firing it twice
@@BrummieRoader the only other SPELL you can cast on your turn is a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action. You can still use your action for anything else, like attacking (extra attacking) using a magic item, or using a special action granted by a spell like Sunbeam
In one of my campaigns, we kind of messed up our party composition, and didn't have a great healer. I originally chose the Draconic bloodline sorcerer subclass, but when it came time to level up, I talked with my DM about retraining my subclass (optional rule in TCoE), and we reflavored that my draconic scales and features actually came from Bahamut, and that this was revealed to my character in a dream sequence after we had a really tough encounter.
“Why on earth are your sorcerer within 15f of enemies?” Yeah, that is usually what my group keeps asking me 😊 That and “What the F… are you doing 30f in front of the barbarian???”
They told me the same. Then I cast inflict wounds at 2nd lvl and use my already present spiritual weapon for a grand total of 52 dage in 1 turn at lvl 5. They stopped asking
I can understand that. Not playing a Divine Soul in this campaign and currently lvl16 but I get the same thing until I point out AC21 (DM modified Staff of Power that is Artifact gives AC 13+ casting Mod (+6) then the +2 from Staff of Power ability.)... I just realized my go to is either Shocking Grasp or Firebolt, with Polymorph, Animate Objects, or Disintegrate being the leveled spell or a Fireball/lightening bolt from the staff. Other than being tied for Top AC and 2nd for HP why am I within 15 ft. of enemies?
Im technically a sorcerer too... Stone sorcerer-1, Forged Druid-17~ My beast forms have an AC of 19-21~ Lez go, the healer is 5ft infront of the boss😭😅
@@coffeeonmyfoot86 like the build. Personally, I look at it as you are the class you have the most levels in...unless your multiclass is Warlock or exceeds four levels. I have a Tempest Cleric that is simmilar (Cleric 17, Wizard 3) he began studying Wizards to deal with Halister, found a Staff of the Magi and recieved a copy of Halister's collected spellbooks so I have a Cleric with a spell book with all 1st and 2nd lvl Wizard spells, a Brass dragon Fimiliar (Pseudodragon) and to make it worth wile a headband of Intellect to help his 13 INT. I'm waiting for an Adventures League Epic to play him in as there are so few T4 games.
Playing a Divine Soul is so much fun. I had one who really was the dedicated Healer of the party. Barely any damage dealing spells, but all the heal spells and Distant Spell + Twinned Spell (we were only level 4 until the campaign unfortunately ended). Luckily my DM back then was very generous and gave us all some very specific magic items that were fitted for our characters. I had a ring that healed everybody around me for 1d6 whenever I used Sorcery Points... I miss these days ^^
I mixed divine soul with hexblade for for an archangel build. I also went Aasimar, and the RP is that he's inhabited by an archangel ala Supernatural style.
I mixed Divine Soul with a 2 level start in Paladin which gives me -Small Lay on Hands Pool -Martial Weapons and Heavy Armor -A Fighting Style -Access to some low level divine spells that can be prepared on a long rest to let my known spells breath -And most importantly I can smite using my larger amount of Sorcerer Spell Slots - Combine that raw smiting damage with things like booming blade, spiritual weapon, and spirit guardians and you have yourself a true warrior of the gods
@@theonlymatthew.l i am making a lvl 8, i was thinking of life cleric 1 and divine soul sorc 7. For the bonus to heals. How did you do it, how good did it feel?
Green Hawk, it's been a year. How did this build play out. I've been looking into making the same thing. I'm about to start my first game and was wondering if being in melee was working with the lower hp of the sorc. I've done my research but couldn't find anything on this particular MC. Do you have any tips to help? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
@@nathans.3618 i've only had the chance to play it in a handful of oneshots, but the key is to make sure you and your DM really know how your MC works, and what kind of nonsense you can do (like creating additional spell slots craziness). Make sure you also go sorc first for the constitution prof, make sure you take spells that dont have too much concentration and either immobilize enemies or enhance your weapon attacks/damage, and lastly make sure you know when to disengage. Make sure you take the pact weapon invocations, and if you dont get war caster, take the invocation that lets you have advantage on concentration. Dont fall for trap spells like hex (switch it out when you can, which is on level up i believe) and remember to focus on single target damage. Dont be afraid to eldritch smite on your first attack even if it doesnt crit. Personally i like taking spells for out of combat, and then burning the slots for smite or converting. You can become a sorta omnipotent being with spells such as detect thoughts, and zone of truth, while also being this mysterious wrath/mercy of god entity. I got a lil rambly, but hope this answered your question. Just remember what your intent is. You are a melee warrior enhanced by gods to do their bidding, use eldritch blast from a distance and let enemies come to you... and dont forget that with the right invocation/pact you can have pretty much any weapon, not just melee.
I'm playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer in a Tomb of Annihilation game right now. I took Distant Spell as one of my metamagics specifically so I could use Spare the Dying at range. So far it's been a lot of fun, especially with the interaction between my Divine Soul Aasimar and the Cleric.
Actually playing Divine soul Sorcerer ( a little kiddo tiefling!) as my first character and it has been super fun! at lv 11 at the moment and each time I get new spell slots I need a week to decide what to pick, lol :'D Spoiled for choice! I've more or less been a swiss knife of the party with buffs and debuffs, as well as some healing (since we don't have a dedicated healer in the party). It's a subclass that I will definitely give another play in the future, there's so much potential to build a character around it.
I actually asked for that in the Sorcerer's video, because i find it really hard to build a Divine Soul Character, and this video so far is meeting all my expectations :D Thanks!
One thing they didnt mention is that divine soul sorcerers are amazing support casters. Twinning shield of faith, casting aid and warding bond is really really great. Also being able to clear house with stuff like fireball make this my favourite way to play these sorcerers
@@alexinfinite7142 you can. The problem is that the limited number of spells known, combined with the fact you can only concentrate on one thing at a time, means there's great spells you end up passing up. Often you can't afford to have redundant concentration option. At level one, the following are great twin options: Shield of Faith Guiding Bolt Healing Word Command Protection from Evil and Good Plus Bless is a killer concentration option. You'll want to have at least one, and possibly two, of Mage Armor/Shield/Absorb Elements. And sorcs in general will often have to give up their level one spells in order to get crucial options at higher levels. Before you get twin, Bless is probably the best thing to be concentrating on. From level five, most people will want to twin Haste, or cast Spirit Guardians. So I totally get DocFrost72 thinking it's brilliant, and the Dudes leaving it out. It's really tough.
I’ve always wanted to play as Necromancer (witch) who’s character backstory was based on seeking knowledge of resurrection so they could bring their loved ones who had burned at the stake, back from the dead. I had been considering multiclassing as a wizard/cleric as I’m greedy and wanted the arcane power of the wizards damage but the divine power of healing like the cleric, and had never even thought of Sorcerer until your video you made a few weeks ago ranking sorcerer subclasses and briefly discussing divine soul sorcerer! Since looking into it this is definitely the road to choose for my character as it has all the spell flavour I wanted for them that worked perfectly with their backstory.
I appreciate that you guys mention that the Tasha’s race rules are optional, but it could be cool if you went into a bit more detail on interesting race options for those of us who aren’t using those optional rules.
Well they did mention aasimar, tiefling and half elf, as well as the dwarf with the optional rules. Honestly these would be my top picks even if they didn't say anything
@@terrariaman2507 because tbh this rule is stupid. It is supposed to be like "there are not only dexterous elfs right here" but D&D already have system for that... called stat distribution and "Ability Score Increase". Stats are supposed to be universal scale between races, where for 10 (or zero in terms of modifier) is average adult human (or why human PC still have +1 to any because your adventurer is not average). And if you want to craft smart but clumsy elf - you just put points into int/wis and have low dex. Yes, you will have +2 mod to dex because you are the elf, but it is because even your PC being clumsy it is still being carried by being elf and having dexterous build from the genetics... Like different dog breeds...
My Protector Aasimar celestial warlock/divine sorcerer laughes and blasts with eldritch lightning-explosions while buffing and healing while soaring in the sky
I have a circle of the stars druid and took the meta magic feat with twin spell. That has come in clutch saving party members before. Chalice form + Healing spell of choice + Twin spell :)
Platinum draconic angel, divine soul sorcerer with cleric domain spells/paladin of Bahamut, who is struggling between his divine and draconic side while training to become a champion of Bahamut, and has to keep his powers hidden or become targeted by the followers of Tiamat. Best damn character I've played so far, and its only been 5 sessions.
Also having a blast playing him, I'm playing him as a kind of gentle giant character. He's very imposing in both figure and charisma, yet he's the most chill man most will ever meet to the point of having to throw a wis save whenever fighting against anything humanoid or hold back his magic even against evil. This lead to a fun situation of him scaring the life out of an entire clan of bandits, and then shooing them away from attacking a caravan.
The Extended spell on Aid etc is a great way to make use of any leftover slots at the end of an adventuring day. Spirit Guardians note: if the enemies have a choice between stabbing you ad being torn to shreds by spirits, or stabbing your friend and not being torn to shreds by them, they probs won't go for you. So it's effective even if you're not in the very thick of combat.
Late as hell but I was going to mention this! There's also Death Ward, Mage Armor (cast it on familiars and pets too!), etc. - between the two spell lists, you can effectively get extra spell slots. If the DM allows Gift of Alacrity spell, pick that up with Fey Touched, and give everyone a boost to initiative. This is also one easy way to translate the Elves' Trance feature (only 4 hours for a long rest) into a direct mechanical advantage, as you'll start adventuring with 12 hours of buffs. Take Inspiring Leader and you can deliver a ton of passive support to the whole party. There's a large opportunity cost due to limited spells known for Divine Soul, and you won't be able to apply all the buffs if you had a rough day of combat and had to use most of your slots, so I wouldn't say it is broken. But it is very strong.
This makes me excited to play. I have a divine soul sorcerer ready to go for my brothers homebrew legend of Zelda campaign. Though we have home brewed the subclass to be more along the lines of the new Tasha sorcerer subclass and gives me bloodline spells
I'm currently playing a Changeling Divine Soul of the chaotic affinity. It is super fun and very flexible; last session I spent most of a combat in the midst of the melee, ACd up with Mage Armor and Haste on myself, Shillelagh (magic initiate feat) and green-flame blade, quickening Cure Wounds when someone went down and swinging away with two actions. Imitation gish? Maybe, but very satisfying
I was thinking of making a Lawful-Good Divine Soul Sorcerer sooner or later to become this soft boy with unironic and not silly optimistic views on life. I had backstory mostly done and the personality but I needed help on mechanical part because having both cleric and sorcerer spell list as well as tons of customization options is overwhelming. Thank you for this video, I'll use it as guideline to make both RP appealing and combat/mechanic potent character!
I'm a DM, one of my players is a kid (12-13) and his first ever character was a Half-Orc Divine Soul Sorcerer. He used Tasha's variant for the CHA, and I changed up his Savage Attacks to where it worked with critical spell attacks instead of critical melee attacks (called it "Berserk Mage") I think he was 5 levels in before he realized that clerics had some powerful non-healing spells lol. Still used fireball a lot.
Been playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer for a year and a half, currently level 14, came to check out what tricks I’ve been missing. Turns out, I’m killing it with Twin Healing Word and Heal, and extended spell Aid and Death Ward as my signature moves haha. Great advice throughout though, wish I’d rolled better so I could have more feats
Oh hell yeah, I was just thinking of playing a Divine Soul Sorc/Fiend Lock that's descended from Avernus and flavor it as divine and demonic sorcerer magic but I don't know much about DSS, but I love the Cleric so let's buckle up Dudes.
I miss my Paladin Divine Soul lol. My DM hated me cause I kept quickening Mirror Image lol. Or Quicken a Guiding Bolt and then attack said target with advantage. And having high lv smites at the lower levels was nice.
@@Exisist5151 For me, at very least, what makes the Four Elements Monk so bad is the discrepancy in the promise and delivery. The subclass promised an Avatar-like bender where you can control the four elements and have that be the main thing your character does, it does not deliver that, as well as being very weak. If it was designed as a monk that just dabbled in a bit of elemental magic it still would suck, but it would not be as hated.
@@thebranchyboi It really does not deliver on what it promised. With the new optional rules in Tasha's you can make a somewhat decent 4 elements monk build but it won't be as potent as an open hand or a kensei monk (you can combine Polearm Master, Ki-Fueled Attack and Water Whip to pull an enemy close and hit them twice with a quarterstaff for a nice amount of damage, but it does cost you your action, bonus action, reaction and 2 or more ki points to do so)
I'm playing a divine soul sorcerer and it's amazing, I have to say it's not the strongest build, but I'm having the most fun I've ever had with a character for a long time. Also, twinned spell guiding bolt is op XD
I waited for this greatly. So a great thanks for you dungeon dudes for another great video. I thought a ton about this great subclass which I had not yet a chance to play. I personally think the best metamagic for cleric spells is distant spell. Cause, the contenders are extend and twin right? So, extending aid? That's exciting? No it's not. Yeah so you can give a 3 players the ability to take another hit, without using resources, in the right circumstance. Not a big deal at all. Twin- Healing word- a spell for raising Ko'd people. The amount of times you have two party members down in the same mkment is small. It's a good use, no doubt, but niche. Death ward? A fine spell, but really- two of your party members got knocked out and now are on 1 hp. Casting something like hypnotic pattern or slow is much cheaper and will increase survivability by far. I do not really think there are good cleric spells to twin until heal and harm. Maybe sanctuary is interesting. That said, twin is a must because of polymorph/haste. Not because of divine spells. Distant spell take 3 spells to a whole new level(and costs 1 sorc point only)- Cure wounds- combined with beacon of hope, you can easily apply this hard applying spell and heal tons of hp- you are not always in touch range to a needing party member. Even without beacon of hope, this is good. But admittedly the worst use for distant. Inflict wounds- terrific. You can now apply from afar and to flying foes, a spell that scales greatly, and offers no saving throw but depends on hitting. Well divine souls are wonderful at sticking such spells- favored of the gods and seeking spell metamagic are great for it, not to mention empower spell that can increase damage. Also- no magic resistance, no legendary resistance. It's an underrated damage spell made fantastic with distant. Bestow curse- when added with range, it's an improved hold monster. Wis each turn like hold monster, but it does not go away after succeeding. And only 3rd level. Downside if 30ft range against 90ft range. I'll take it. It can be upped to 5th level(as hold monster) , to be non concentration! I think while these are not the most powerful options among the entire sorc-clr list, these are the most benefiting options fron applying metamagic to divine spells. So I would pick distant and twin for a divine soul, and then really have a hard time at 10th between seeking, empowered and subtle.
as for meta magic, I"d agree with your recomendation, but I'd say swap subtle spell for distant spell, since you can extend range of stuff like curewounds, and you don't need to then take healing word to do party recovery from a distance. and you can pick the "good" alignment andget cure wounds for free. (I think its good...)
I'm playing a Shadow Sorcerer and there's also a Divine Soul Sorcerer in the party. I love how Sorcerers being so focused instead of being the swiss army knives like Clerics or Wizards makes it easy to have two Sorcerers in our party that aren't stepping on each other's toes at all. He does some healing with Healing Word, some buffs (Bless, twinned Haste or twinned Polymorph), and tosses around some Fireballs. I cast debuffs like Bane (from Fey touched), Hold Person, Blindness/Deafness, or Slow, and I summon a Hound of Ill Omen fairly often as well. I also use Tasha's Mind Whip, Mind Sliver, or Chill Touch to completely master the debuffs category. We are two Sorcerers in a party of four, but we're completely not stepping on each others' toes at all because Sorcerers are so much more specialized than Clerics or Wizards are.
About to play a Order Domain Cleric / Divine Soul Sorcerer Astral Elf in Spelljammer. The synergy with Silvery Barbs and Voice of Authority should be fun. Twinned Spell as well, and maybe distant spell. I'm the party's dedicated healer/support, my character is a pacifist so he doesn't have a single damage dealing spell or weapon. I'm excited!
Hats off to my absolute beast of a Divine Soul Sorceress Aasimar - Solaris - embodiment of the phoenix. There is nothing more kick ass than activating your wings, rezzing your party, then turning right back around to cast Meteor Swarm. Respect the Divine Soul Sorceress. Twin Spell that bitch to provide simultaneous support and crowd control.
@@viniciusgomes1747 its amazing it has a serious main character vibe going on And since no one in my tables likes yo have cha based characters, i am normally the bard, sorc, pal, warlock or a multiclass of the four.
The Transmuted Spell from Tasha's is also a great Metamagic for a Divine Soul. I'm playing Descent to Avernus now and the ability to take Fireball and transmute the damage to non-fire damage is amazing.
MOst people think of telekinnetic as push people around, but forget you get an invisible mage hand!. Telepathic also fits with the sorcerer, and the detect thought spell is a nice thing to have. Fey/Shadow touched also are nice. you can, for instance, use one of them to pick up mage armor I think with fey touched? hand Misty step is always a nice get out of trouble thing tohave until you can fly. Other good spells in fey touched are bane? silvery bards (I think). Metamagic adept is nice to take early on, I agree. (as for not useful on other classes,I found bards can benefit from this feat picking up subtle spells). Ritual caster is a very nice thign to have! I agree with taking twinned spell!. Spells I'd take is Guiding bolt indeed! I like sacred flame a lot, and Guidiance are cool stuff to have. I also like shield of faith and Mage armor. Hightened spell is a metamagic to take! Bless & Bane are so usefull as well. Normally I'd say take subtle spell on most classes. I don't always do it on this class, though. I usually start with quickened & hightened, then extended and twinned, and go to something else after that.
Even if your just playing a cleric, picking up Metamagic Adapt and getting Twinned Spell with Distance or Extended Spell is a really strong option. Variant human for the win!
@@pmgmsd "A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a mystical cipher. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any Material Components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. " So, presumably a Divine Soul caster could read scrolls from both Sorcerer and Cleric lists. This means that cleric spells that they may not want to take as one of their own personal spell list but which are useful in a pinch can be relegated to scrolls.
Especially if you can dump sorcery points to create a high level slot for it! For example a level 7 DSS/CWS (or level 5 with Metamagic adept now) can create a fifth level slot for +20 hp to three allies.
Can you make a video about the best things to do with your bonus action? For spell casters and non? I just discovered the use of flaming sphere and tiny servant
One thing I’m doing is I’m replacing the extra spell you get by picking your deity’s alignment, with picking a cleric domain and getting the domain spells as you level up. I’m sure someone has already had this idea, but I figured I might as well mention it here
Spell sniper plus distant spell turns inflict wounds from the jjba life drain, into a supernatural ability to mug someone from other side of a 60 foot room.
I think another good way to pick up medium or even heavy amour (if you are willing to put 13-15 in str,) is taking 1 or 2 levels of cleric. depending if you want to get the lvl 19 ASI or the lvl 2 channel divinity
OMG! Another video from the Dungeon Dudes! My drow Divine Soul Sorceress of Lolth thanks you very much for the advice! I think DS is an amazing support class: let's not forget Twinning Shield of Faith, Extending Mage Armor, but also Heightening Contagion is not bad at all... ok, the last one is not ver supportive...
As a divine soul sorcerer, I eventually gained access to Planar Ally. Using Magic Circle and Banishment along with Heightened Spell Metamagic as backups in case things go south, I acted as a middle ground diplomat between a Solar and another PC in our party. He was interested in multiclassing into Warlock, and Me being the main “healer” of the group was starting to weaken a bit. So he settled on the Celestial Patron. Feel Free to steal this idea if you want. It’s pretty fun to use as a Divine Soul Sorcerer because Sorcerers are naturally good at Charisma based skills, making you genuinely love debating with Fey, Fiends, and Celestials all around, asking for information, making deals, etc. It made my party rely on me when it came to getting information. I felt like Harry Dresden throughout the campaign.
With me a feat you over looked in the PHB is ritual book or Magical Adept and picking up Find Familiar because this will let you cast cure or inflict wounds threw the familiar if you are not going to be a weapon using character
Far and away my most powerful character was a Grave Domain 2/Divine Soul 3. Quicken And Empower metamagic, Inflict Wounds. As a half elf he was going to take Elven accuracy but I retired him after his second session bc I could tell the DM was struggling (Path to the Grave, Quicken IW and Empower on a crit dealt more than 100 damage to an aquatic boss that was supposed to be a multi stage fight). I had him flavored like he was cursed and he couldn’t touch other people bc “his touch was destined to kill the one he loves most.” I’ll revisit the build when AL comes back.
They should have given Divine Souls Sorcerers Bloodline Spells, but instead of a single list they can choose a Domain from the Cleric list and gain those spells. This represents which type of Deity favors the Sorcerer.
I'm currently playing a drow divine soul in Dungeon of the Mad Mage. The versatility the cleric spell list brings is just awesome, and I was glad to see them focus on that. Candidly, I feel like I'm still grappling with how to make the character more optimal (not perfectly optimal; I chose drow as opposed to something like Aasimar for RP reasons) so I appreciate the good tips here. The problem I've been facing is that I'm the party's only full caster, so I end up filling a LOT of roles: healer, blaster, and defensive magic. Took drow high magic as a feat so I could get levitate and dispel magic, plus detect magic on command. Twinning toll the dead has been an effective combat move. I haven't quite been able to make darkness work for me like I hoped I could though.
I’ve played a fighter 2/Divine Soul 6 character wore full plate and after getting an Amulet of Health became the party’s tank. As they stated it’s easy to focus on the buff/healing aspects the Cleric spell lists gives the Divine Soul access to but having access to attack spells that can do 3d10 or 4d6 (Inflict Wounds and Guiding Bolt, respectively) as early as level 1 shouldn’t be overlooked.
The best Option for a spell which got me into the idea of playing a divine soul is a twinned life transference. You still take 4d8 of dmg but you now heal 4 Times as much instead of twice, now that is what I call worth it.
I made a changeling divine soul sorcerer whose real deity is Cyric, but whenever he shapeshifts he has a bunch of holy symbols and pretends to be a cleric of different deities all the time. This ties a lot into his and Cyric's relationship, which is really fun bc they're just going to treat all of these impersonations like funny jokes and they're literally just homies, its a lot of fun. He also doesn't have the highest wisdom score, so he's just comically confident about it and will just go around flaunting about the idea that he's clerics for different deities, its a lot of fun. you can also do this with eladrin seasons
You can use the summons from animate dead or create undead to grapple and help in combat if not meat shields as well I built mine to be such while also use animate objects to do so much damage lol
I have been playing a divine soul Aasimar for the last 2 years. I'm level 12 right now with 10 in sorcerer, 1 in war cleric, and 1 in hexblade warlock. my character is leaning very heavily into the angel side of her heritage so she's all fire and brimstone, with heavy armour and melee combined with healing and long-ranged magic.
My kobold is a divine soul sorcerer. I spent the better part of an entire day making a road map of which spells to take on every level up. I had to cut so many great options that the last three that needed to go took hours of internal debate. Each.
These types of videos are my favorite. I listen to a lot of Dungeon Dudes while I'm driving. I love where you talk about character concepts and how the class would work with the races. Excellent stuff you guys are putting out. Thank you!
Heightened Spell + Planar Binding Spell on a charisma based character, just saying. Also don't forget access to Planar ally, Magic Circle, Wish (Glibness), and Skill Empowerment (double proficiency). Get some social skills and even demon lords will be happy to serve under you.
I unfortunately never tried to get any demon lords under my rule, but it was very fun for me to use Planar Ally with Magic Circle. I tried to use it to make deals with Celestial, Fey, and Fiend alike, sort of playing detective on things by asking creatures questions and doing stuff in return, often making persuasion and deception rolls in the process. Planning ahead, me and another PC actually talked with our GM. My friend was a Paladin who wanted to multiclass into Warlock mostly for those sweet Warlock Cantrips (Eldritch Blast) and invocations. With some thematic planning on both our parts, I summoned a Solar and acted as a diplomat for the Paladin. Needless to say, he got what he wanted.
Also Distance Spell metamagic, how do you not have that. We have far distances with my games, as well as trying to stay away from most enemies = distance spell metamagic.
Friendly reminder that if your DM has enemies heal themselves or their allies and they’re close enough, you can use Empowered Healing to try and get a lower result
There are two cleric spells that benefit greatly from Distant Spell: divine word, word of radiance. These are probably the only two area of effect spells whose area can be increased by distant spell.
Multiclassing with 1 level dip in Order cleric makes this the best support in the game. Combining voice of authority with your meta magic is so fun and feels incredibly powerful. Start sorcerer for constitution save prof then take one level in order cleric. If you have a 14 dex you can have an 18 ac with scale mail and shield. Take shield spell and shocking grasp for a melee attack and you can survive anywhere on the battlefield
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Me, who is playing a Divine Soul/Celestial Warlock: Please don't be an April Fool's joke, please don't be an April Fool's joke
Same...like I'm playing a divine Soul sorcerer/celestial warlock too.
And I'm hoping not an april fools joke too.
Divine soul infernal warlock 🤟
I'm 5 levels deep into Celestial Warlock (Pact of the tome), 1 more level and I'm switching to Divine Soul Sorcerer
Could a Divine Soul make a Warlock pact with their Celestial parent?
I'm also playing a Celestial Warlock (Pact of Chain) Divine Soul Sorcerer!
It is NOT an April Fool's joke people, our Dungeon Dudes Delve in nothing but FACTS AND WHOLESOMENESS for their community!
Thats something someone WOULD say on april’s fools
Can I just mention something that I didn't hear in the video about the importance of twin spell on a Divine Soul Sorcerer that makes reviving characters EVEN MORE important? When you twin revivify and raise dead etc etc, just like all other spells, you only consume the spell components once when you twin it. That 500gp diamond you found also gets double the value when you twin raise dead.
If you target a zealot barbarian with a twinned revival spell, would that still negate the material component?
@@maid_of_heart3261 I believe that would be up to the DM, but as written, I would interpret "sole effect" as if it meant if the spell is only restoring you to life and not someone else, so the material component would still apply.
@@MasterFlarg89 Bit of a shame. But it's still cheaper than reviving both characters separately since you're using one spell slot instead of two
My Favored Soul Sorcerer uses twinned Healing Word - upcast as needed - all the time. While you're not quite the heal- bot that a Cleric of Life is, it's enough to make a difference..
15:10
I had two party members die to a remorrhaz in Storm King’s Thunder and I got to twin revivify them. The image in my head has always been epic and I want to get it commissioned one day.
Would love to know the image in your head.
I'm surprised you didn't mention two amazing high level spells for Divine Soul Sorcerers. Bestow Curse and Contagion are absolutely hilariously good on a Divine Soul Sorcerer. You can either use Distant metamagic to make the touch spells have a range of 30 feet, or you can use Heighten to make Bestow Curse a disadvantage save or suck spell (At higher levels non concentration spell too!). Not to mention if you get two really nasty enemies lined up next to one another you can even twin these spells to absolutely ruin those enemies day.
Heightened or twinned contagion, I'm here for it.
A Distant Inflict Wounds has always made me happy.
Chucking Inflict Wounds from 30ft away is one of the single most satisfying things in this game
Twinned Inflict Wounds, that's what im talking about
@@evanroach5025 can you twinned spell a spell that requires a melee attack?
@@neverendar1778 only requirements are having a Range other than Self, and being incapable of targetting more than one creature. So hell yeah, divine boxer is a go!
I just made s character and got to do this against an owlbear last session. Fun times
Anyone else miss the little intro story they would do for the subclass guides?
I loved those interludes! Sets the tone so nicely
It's easy to get overwhelmed with so many options, but always remember: Fireball will solve all the problems your other spells can't.
Just Fireball... Just Fireball.... JUST FIREBALL!!!!
With its best friend counterspell
To the people that ask why a sorcerer would be within melee range, I say...meet my white dragon draconic sorcerer shield dwarf with battleaxe/warhammer, army of agathys hueheueheuehue
No!
There is only Fireball!
can fireball bring my father back 😢
Distant spell metamagic is amazing for the cleric spells that require touch. Being able to cast inflict wounds at 30 feet makes you feel like Darth Vader force choking enemies. Not to mention if someone goes down outside your range than a 120 ft healing word or a 30 ft cure wounds can keep you safe without having to wade into combat.
tbh if you wanna be darth vader go sorcerer/paladin
it's also good for bestow curse and contagion, 30 feet instead of touch, talk about a happy accident.
OMG I hadn't thought of that!
Absolutely. I got distant spell and healing word and I can pop people back up from incredible distances. It’s amazingly powerful as a squishy healer hiding in the back.
I came here to essentially post this... Distant Spell is #1 on my Divine Soul Sorcerer's Metamagic Feat List! Wasn't even mentioned in the video.
Played a divine soul sorcerer tortle for a while. A hippy sort that encounter something in an ocean cave. And gained some powers. The signature being absorbing salt and water out of creatures by touch. (Inflict wounds). That can be a brutal spell twinned. And the divine favour is a big help on painful misses. Had inspiring leader as a feat. Would just hang out and tell stories.
Dual cast Guiding Bolt is maybe the coolest visual ever.
Protector Aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer here, played in a Tier 4 oneshot recently. I don't think my DM, who I've been playing with for years, has ever hated me more than when I had 4th level Spiritual Weapon, a twinned Haste on the Monk and the Paladin (which made the boss miss no fewer than 5 attacks they would have hit on) and then Counterspelled a Circle of Death that was going to mince the whole party. Good times indeed.
I’m running a DSS Protector Aasimar and I’m brand new to D&D. First campaign I’ve ever done. My DM is allowing us all a respec because we just finished a one shot to get down the basic concepts of how to play. But I have some questions, if you would be open to helping me out. Totally understand if not, but thought I’d shoot my shot anyway lol you’re the first person I’ve come across who has run the Protector Aasimar DSS.
You all thought it was an April Fools Day video but it was actually a reference to Holy Week
You thought I was an april fools video but it was me, DIO
You thought it was an April's Fools Day video, but it was me, Alpharius
I’m playing a warlock multiclasing as a divine soul sorcerer. Those extra spell slots and favored by the gods have been clutch in the campaign.
which patron are you using? I chose not to go meta and am picking the fiend
@@lightning2034 a homebrew celestial I have no idea who they are
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I'm so glad this wasn't an April Fools joke! I've been asking for this video for a year and I'm so happy with this end product!
One thing not mentioned extensively is the pairing of distant spell metamagic and all of the touch spells. Being able to cast touch spells from a distance of 30ft or short range spells like healing word from much greater distances is potentially huge. Especially for campaigns with long sight lines such as a ocean campaign.
Anyway loved the video!
One filthy combo I found was to Quicken Sunbeam, and then using that turns action to fire it again.
Abit of DBZ beam action for one big turn 👌🏿
If you quicken a levelled spell, you can only cast cantrips with your action.
@@BrummieRoader incorrect my good man. Sunbeam says as an action you fire another beam, not recast the spell. The spell is concentration so I'm technically focused on it. I'm just firing it twice
@@BrummieRoader the only other SPELL you can cast on your turn is a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action. You can still use your action for anything else, like attacking (extra attacking) using a magic item, or using a special action granted by a spell like Sunbeam
@@robertmacneish4470 you're right, and that's awesome. Going on the list
In one of my campaigns, we kind of messed up our party composition, and didn't have a great healer. I originally chose the Draconic bloodline sorcerer subclass, but when it came time to level up, I talked with my DM about retraining my subclass (optional rule in TCoE), and we reflavored that my draconic scales and features actually came from Bahamut, and that this was revealed to my character in a dream sequence after we had a really tough encounter.
“Why on earth are your sorcerer within 15f of enemies?”
Yeah, that is usually what my group keeps asking me 😊
That and “What the F… are you doing 30f in front of the barbarian???”
They told me the same. Then I cast inflict wounds at 2nd lvl and use my already present spiritual weapon for a grand total of 52 dage in 1 turn at lvl 5. They stopped asking
I can understand that. Not playing a Divine Soul in this campaign and currently lvl16 but I get the same thing until I point out AC21 (DM modified Staff of Power that is Artifact gives AC 13+ casting Mod (+6) then the +2 from Staff of Power ability.)... I just realized my go to is either Shocking Grasp or Firebolt, with Polymorph, Animate Objects, or Disintegrate being the leveled spell or a Fireball/lightening bolt from the staff. Other than being tied for Top AC and 2nd for HP why am I within 15 ft. of enemies?
The wizard in my group always finds himself face to face with the session's boss or big boss lol
Im technically a sorcerer too...
Stone sorcerer-1, Forged Druid-17~
My beast forms have an AC of 19-21~
Lez go, the healer is 5ft infront of the boss😭😅
@@coffeeonmyfoot86 like the build. Personally, I look at it as you are the class you have the most levels in...unless your multiclass is Warlock or exceeds four levels. I have a Tempest Cleric that is simmilar (Cleric 17, Wizard 3) he began studying Wizards to deal with Halister, found a Staff of the Magi and recieved a copy of Halister's collected spellbooks so I have a Cleric with a spell book with all 1st and 2nd lvl Wizard spells, a Brass dragon Fimiliar (Pseudodragon) and to make it worth wile a headband of Intellect to help his 13 INT. I'm waiting for an Adventures League Epic to play him in as there are so few T4 games.
Playing a Divine Soul is so much fun. I had one who really was the dedicated Healer of the party. Barely any damage dealing spells, but all the heal spells and Distant Spell + Twinned Spell (we were only level 4 until the campaign unfortunately ended). Luckily my DM back then was very generous and gave us all some very specific magic items that were fitted for our characters. I had a ring that healed everybody around me for 1d6 whenever I used Sorcery Points... I miss these days ^^
I mixed divine soul with hexblade for for an archangel build. I also went Aasimar, and the RP is that he's inhabited by an archangel ala Supernatural style.
I mixed Divine Soul Sorcerer with Life Cleric. I mixed Hexblade with Shadow Sorcerer 👍
I mixed Divine Soul with a 2 level start in Paladin which gives me
-Small Lay on Hands Pool
-Martial Weapons and Heavy Armor
-A Fighting Style
-Access to some low level divine spells that can be prepared on a long rest to let my known spells breath
-And most importantly I can smite using my larger amount of Sorcerer Spell Slots
- Combine that raw smiting damage with things like booming blade, spiritual weapon, and spirit guardians and you have yourself a true warrior of the gods
@@theonlymatthew.l i am making a lvl 8, i was thinking of life cleric 1 and divine soul sorc 7. For the bonus to heals. How did you do it, how good did it feel?
Green Hawk, it's been a year. How did this build play out. I've been looking into making the same thing. I'm about to start my first game and was wondering if being in melee was working with the lower hp of the sorc. I've done my research but couldn't find anything on this particular MC. Do you have any tips to help? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
@@nathans.3618 i've only had the chance to play it in a handful of oneshots, but the key is to make sure you and your DM really know how your MC works, and what kind of nonsense you can do (like creating additional spell slots craziness).
Make sure you also go sorc first for the constitution prof, make sure you take spells that dont have too much concentration and either immobilize enemies or enhance your weapon attacks/damage, and lastly make sure you know when to disengage. Make sure you take the pact weapon invocations, and if you dont get war caster, take the invocation that lets you have advantage on concentration. Dont fall for trap spells like hex (switch it out when you can, which is on level up i believe) and remember to focus on single target damage. Dont be afraid to eldritch smite on your first attack even if it doesnt crit.
Personally i like taking spells for out of combat, and then burning the slots for smite or converting. You can become a sorta omnipotent being with spells such as detect thoughts, and zone of truth, while also being this mysterious wrath/mercy of god entity.
I got a lil rambly, but hope this answered your question. Just remember what your intent is. You are a melee warrior enhanced by gods to do their bidding, use eldritch blast from a distance and let enemies come to you... and dont forget that with the right invocation/pact you can have pretty much any weapon, not just melee.
I'm playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer in a Tomb of Annihilation game right now. I took Distant Spell as one of my metamagics specifically so I could use Spare the Dying at range. So far it's been a lot of fun, especially with the interaction between my Divine Soul Aasimar and the Cleric.
Actually playing Divine soul Sorcerer ( a little kiddo tiefling!) as my first character and it has been super fun! at lv 11 at the moment and each time I get new spell slots I need a week to decide what to pick, lol :'D Spoiled for choice! I've more or less been a swiss knife of the party with buffs and debuffs, as well as some healing (since we don't have a dedicated healer in the party). It's a subclass that I will definitely give another play in the future, there's so much potential to build a character around it.
I actually asked for that in the Sorcerer's video, because i find it really hard to build a Divine Soul Character, and this video so far is meeting all my expectations :D Thanks!
One thing they didnt mention is that divine soul sorcerers are amazing support casters. Twinning shield of faith, casting aid and warding bond is really really great. Also being able to clear house with stuff like fireball make this my favourite way to play these sorcerers
For everyone looking for the April fool's joke, it's the dungeon dudes not mentioning twinned shield of faith for your fighter/barbarian.
I don't understand? Are you not able to do that?
@@alexinfinite7142 you can. The problem is that the limited number of spells known, combined with the fact you can only concentrate on one thing at a time, means there's great spells you end up passing up. Often you can't afford to have redundant concentration option. At level one, the following are great twin options:
Shield of Faith
Guiding Bolt
Healing Word
Command
Protection from Evil and Good
Plus Bless is a killer concentration option. You'll want to have at least one, and possibly two, of Mage Armor/Shield/Absorb Elements. And sorcs in general will often have to give up their level one spells in order to get crucial options at higher levels. Before you get twin, Bless is probably the best thing to be concentrating on. From level five, most people will want to twin Haste, or cast Spirit Guardians.
So I totally get DocFrost72 thinking it's brilliant, and the Dudes leaving it out. It's really tough.
@@BrummieRoader a fantastic write up. I just have a soft spot for a 20+ AC before 3rd level :)
How about twinned spiritual weapon :)
@@justicebrewing9449 wouldn't work, can affect more than one creature: twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/915691848273764352?lang=en
DIVINE SOUL SORCERER LETS GOOO
I’ve always wanted to play as Necromancer (witch) who’s character backstory was based on seeking knowledge of resurrection so they could bring their loved ones who had burned at the stake, back from the dead. I had been considering multiclassing as a wizard/cleric as I’m greedy and wanted the arcane power of the wizards damage but the divine power of healing like the cleric, and had never even thought of Sorcerer until your video you made a few weeks ago ranking sorcerer subclasses and briefly discussing divine soul sorcerer! Since looking into it this is definitely the road to choose for my character as it has all the spell flavour I wanted for them that worked perfectly with their backstory.
I appreciate that you guys mention that the Tasha’s race rules are optional, but it could be cool if you went into a bit more detail on interesting race options for those of us who aren’t using those optional rules.
Well they did mention aasimar, tiefling and half elf, as well as the dwarf with the optional rules. Honestly these would be my top picks even if they didn't say anything
Why would you not use the race rules?
@@daniellins4114 Yuan-ti is also a great option with the magic resistance and immunity to poison
@@terrariaman2507 because tbh this rule is stupid. It is supposed to be like "there are not only dexterous elfs right here" but D&D already have system for that... called stat distribution and "Ability Score Increase". Stats are supposed to be universal scale between races, where for 10 (or zero in terms of modifier) is average adult human (or why human PC still have +1 to any because your adventurer is not average). And if you want to craft smart but clumsy elf - you just put points into int/wis and have low dex. Yes, you will have +2 mod to dex because you are the elf, but it is because even your PC being clumsy it is still being carried by being elf and having dexterous build from the genetics... Like different dog breeds...
@@pda8987 then just don't use the rule if you don't like it.
My Protector Aasimar celestial warlock/divine sorcerer laughes and blasts with eldritch lightning-explosions while buffing and healing while soaring in the sky
I have a circle of the stars druid and took the meta magic feat with twin spell. That has come in clutch saving party members before. Chalice form + Healing spell of choice + Twin spell :)
extend spell plus spiritual weapon works quite well.
also now on the cleric spell list with Tasha's: aura of vitality
Platinum draconic angel, divine soul sorcerer with cleric domain spells/paladin of Bahamut, who is struggling between his divine and draconic side while training to become a champion of Bahamut, and has to keep his powers hidden or become targeted by the followers of Tiamat. Best damn character I've played so far, and its only been 5 sessions.
That sounds pretty metal, kang.
Playing a Tempest cleric Blue Dragonborn, lvl 6 so far, worships Bahamut, the eye of the storm. Simple righteous style but a blast. Go Go Bahamut!
Also having a blast playing him, I'm playing him as a kind of gentle giant character. He's very imposing in both figure and charisma, yet he's the most chill man most will ever meet to the point of having to throw a wis save whenever fighting against anything humanoid or hold back his magic even against evil. This lead to a fun situation of him scaring the life out of an entire clan of bandits, and then shooing them away from attacking a caravan.
What rulebook is the platinum draconic angel thing from? I want to read more about it, especially if there's a ruby draconic option as well
@@taelim6599 its homebrew
Oh god(s?), thank you! My prayers have been answered!
Troll or real, let's find our
Our what?
@@Infernal_Resonance I assume they meant "out" haha
@@Infernal_Resonance I can only presume leaving the sentence unfinished is the troll job. (that, or it's just a typo of "out" lol)
The Extended spell on Aid etc is a great way to make use of any leftover slots at the end of an adventuring day.
Spirit Guardians note: if the enemies have a choice between stabbing you ad being torn to shreds by spirits, or stabbing your friend and not being torn to shreds by them, they probs won't go for you. So it's effective even if you're not in the very thick of combat.
Late as hell but I was going to mention this! There's also Death Ward, Mage Armor (cast it on familiars and pets too!), etc. - between the two spell lists, you can effectively get extra spell slots. If the DM allows Gift of Alacrity spell, pick that up with Fey Touched, and give everyone a boost to initiative. This is also one easy way to translate the Elves' Trance feature (only 4 hours for a long rest) into a direct mechanical advantage, as you'll start adventuring with 12 hours of buffs. Take Inspiring Leader and you can deliver a ton of passive support to the whole party. There's a large opportunity cost due to limited spells known for Divine Soul, and you won't be able to apply all the buffs if you had a rough day of combat and had to use most of your slots, so I wouldn't say it is broken. But it is very strong.
This makes me excited to play. I have a divine soul sorcerer ready to go for my brothers homebrew legend of Zelda campaign. Though we have home brewed the subclass to be more along the lines of the new Tasha sorcerer subclass and gives me bloodline spells
Heroes Feast plus Extended Spell, or Quickened Spell. God that’s powerful
I'm currently playing a Changeling Divine Soul of the chaotic affinity. It is super fun and very flexible; last session I spent most of a combat in the midst of the melee, ACd up with Mage Armor and Haste on myself, Shillelagh (magic initiate feat) and green-flame blade, quickening Cure Wounds when someone went down and swinging away with two actions. Imitation gish? Maybe, but very satisfying
I was thinking of making a Lawful-Good Divine Soul Sorcerer sooner or later to become this soft boy with unironic and not silly optimistic views on life. I had backstory mostly done and the personality but I needed help on mechanical part because having both cleric and sorcerer spell list as well as tons of customization options is overwhelming. Thank you for this video, I'll use it as guideline to make both RP appealing and combat/mechanic potent character!
I'm a DM, one of my players is a kid (12-13) and his first ever character was a Half-Orc Divine Soul Sorcerer. He used Tasha's variant for the CHA, and I changed up his Savage Attacks to where it worked with critical spell attacks instead of critical melee attacks (called it "Berserk Mage")
I think he was 5 levels in before he realized that clerics had some powerful non-healing spells lol.
Still used fireball a lot.
Been playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer for a year and a half, currently level 14, came to check out what tricks I’ve been missing. Turns out, I’m killing it with Twin Healing Word and Heal, and extended spell Aid and Death Ward as my signature moves haha. Great advice throughout though, wish I’d rolled better so I could have more feats
I think we as a culture are done with April Fools crap after the last two years.
I love playing healers and the talker this is one of my favorite subclasses
this is my favorite subclass, I had so much fun playing it
I'm planning on making a cross class oath of redemption paladin/divine soul sorcerer. So spirit guardians will most certainly be on my spell list.
Oh hell yeah, I was just thinking of playing a Divine Soul Sorc/Fiend Lock that's descended from Avernus and flavor it as divine and demonic sorcerer magic but I don't know much about DSS, but I love the Cleric so let's buckle up Dudes.
really huge fan of spirit guardians. Great mileage with my divine soul sorcadin.
Step one make a Paladin, step two multiclass.
I miss my Paladin Divine Soul lol. My DM hated me cause I kept quickening Mirror Image lol. Or Quicken a Guiding Bolt and then attack said target with advantage. And having high lv smites at the lower levels was nice.
I was honestly expecting this to actually be a sarcastic guide to the Purple Dragon Knight or Four Elements Monk.
Honestly how bad they are is blown massively out of proportion. They’re not good, but people pretend like they’re unplayable, which they aren’t.
@@Exisist5151 For me, at very least, what makes the Four Elements Monk so bad is the discrepancy in the promise and delivery. The subclass promised an Avatar-like bender where you can control the four elements and have that be the main thing your character does, it does not deliver that, as well as being very weak. If it was designed as a monk that just dabbled in a bit of elemental magic it still would suck, but it would not be as hated.
@@thebranchyboi It really does not deliver on what it promised. With the new optional rules in Tasha's you can make a somewhat decent 4 elements monk build but it won't be as potent as an open hand or a kensei monk (you can combine Polearm Master, Ki-Fueled Attack and Water Whip to pull an enemy close and hit them twice with a quarterstaff for a nice amount of damage, but it does cost you your action, bonus action, reaction and 2 or more ki points to do so)
I like the idea of a divine soul sorceror and a tortle. It's one way to utilize a high ac with cleric spells for your best oogway accent.
I'm playing a divine soul sorcerer and it's amazing, I have to say it's not the strongest build, but I'm having the most fun I've ever had with a character for a long time.
Also, twinned spell guiding bolt is op XD
I waited for this greatly. So a great thanks for you dungeon dudes for another great video.
I thought a ton about this great subclass which I had not yet a chance to play.
I personally think the best metamagic for cleric spells is distant spell.
Cause, the contenders are extend and twin right?
So, extending aid? That's exciting? No it's not. Yeah so you can give a 3 players the ability to take another hit, without using resources, in the right circumstance. Not a big deal at all.
Twin-
Healing word- a spell for raising Ko'd people. The amount of times you have two party members down in the same mkment is small. It's a good use, no doubt, but niche.
Death ward? A fine spell, but really- two of your party members got knocked out and now are on 1 hp. Casting something like hypnotic pattern or slow is much cheaper and will increase survivability by far. I do not really think there are good cleric spells to twin until heal and harm. Maybe sanctuary is interesting.
That said, twin is a must because of polymorph/haste. Not because of divine spells.
Distant spell take 3 spells to a whole new level(and costs 1 sorc point only)-
Cure wounds- combined with beacon of hope, you can easily apply this hard applying spell and heal tons of hp- you are not always in touch range to a needing party member. Even without beacon of hope, this is good. But admittedly the worst use for distant.
Inflict wounds- terrific. You can now apply from afar and to flying foes, a spell that scales greatly, and offers no saving throw but depends on hitting. Well divine souls are wonderful at sticking such spells- favored of the gods and seeking spell metamagic are great for it, not to mention empower spell that can increase damage. Also- no magic resistance, no legendary resistance. It's an underrated damage spell made fantastic with distant.
Bestow curse- when added with range, it's an improved hold monster. Wis each turn like hold monster, but it does not go away after succeeding. And only 3rd level. Downside if 30ft range against 90ft range. I'll take it. It can be upped to 5th level(as hold monster) , to be non concentration!
I think while these are not the most powerful options among the entire sorc-clr list, these are the most benefiting options fron applying metamagic to divine spells.
So I would pick distant and twin for a divine soul, and then really have a hard time at 10th between seeking, empowered and subtle.
The 2d4 to attack/saving throw once per long rest alone is great
Edit correction: short OR long rest
as for meta magic, I"d agree with your recomendation, but I'd say swap subtle spell for distant spell, since you can extend range of stuff like curewounds, and you don't need to then take healing word to do party recovery from a distance. and you can pick the "good" alignment andget cure wounds for free. (I think its good...)
I'm playing a Shadow Sorcerer and there's also a Divine Soul Sorcerer in the party. I love how Sorcerers being so focused instead of being the swiss army knives like Clerics or Wizards makes it easy to have two Sorcerers in our party that aren't stepping on each other's toes at all. He does some healing with Healing Word, some buffs (Bless, twinned Haste or twinned Polymorph), and tosses around some Fireballs. I cast debuffs like Bane (from Fey touched), Hold Person, Blindness/Deafness, or Slow, and I summon a Hound of Ill Omen fairly often as well. I also use Tasha's Mind Whip, Mind Sliver, or Chill Touch to completely master the debuffs category.
We are two Sorcerers in a party of four, but we're completely not stepping on each others' toes at all because Sorcerers are so much more specialized than Clerics or Wizards are.
About to play a Order Domain Cleric / Divine Soul Sorcerer Astral Elf in Spelljammer. The synergy with Silvery Barbs and Voice of Authority should be fun. Twinned Spell as well, and maybe distant spell. I'm the party's dedicated healer/support, my character is a pacifist so he doesn't have a single damage dealing spell or weapon. I'm excited!
I love my spirit guardians! My trickster cleric uses jackalope spirit guardians and they tear things up!
Hats off to my absolute beast of a Divine Soul Sorceress Aasimar - Solaris - embodiment of the phoenix. There is nothing more kick ass than activating your wings, rezzing your party, then turning right back around to cast Meteor Swarm. Respect the Divine Soul Sorceress. Twin Spell that bitch to provide simultaneous support and crowd control.
Twin spell on Regenerate is freaking fantastic.
hexblade divine soul sorcerer was my favorite playthouh ever
yep i'm with a divine soul 6/ hexblade 2 and is probaly the best damage dealer caster i ve played
@@viniciusgomes1747 its amazing it has a serious main character vibe going on
And since no one in my tables likes yo have cha based characters, i am normally the bard, sorc, pal, warlock or a multiclass of the four.
The Transmuted Spell from Tasha's is also a great Metamagic for a Divine Soul. I'm playing Descent to Avernus now and the ability to take Fireball and transmute the damage to non-fire damage is amazing.
MOst people think of telekinnetic as push people around, but forget you get an invisible mage hand!. Telepathic also fits with the sorcerer, and the detect thought spell is a nice thing to have. Fey/Shadow touched also are nice. you can, for instance, use one of them to pick up mage armor I think with fey touched? hand Misty step is always a nice get out of trouble thing tohave until you can fly. Other good spells in fey touched are bane? silvery bards (I think). Metamagic adept is nice to take early on, I agree. (as for not useful on other classes,I found bards can benefit from this feat picking up subtle spells). Ritual caster is a very nice thign to have!
I agree with taking twinned spell!. Spells I'd take is Guiding bolt indeed! I like sacred flame a lot, and Guidiance are cool stuff to have. I also like shield of faith and Mage armor. Hightened spell is a metamagic to take! Bless & Bane are so usefull as well. Normally I'd say take subtle spell on most classes. I don't always do it on this class, though. I usually start with quickened & hightened, then extended and twinned, and go to something else after that.
Great video. I've been thinking about playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer as my next character, now I've made up my mine.
Even if your just playing a cleric, picking up Metamagic Adapt and getting Twinned Spell with Distance or Extended Spell is a really strong option. Variant human for the win!
The scroll possibilities of the Divine Soul are huge.
Care to explain?
@@pmgmsd "A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a mystical cipher. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any Material Components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. "
So, presumably a Divine Soul caster could read scrolls from both Sorcerer and Cleric lists. This means that cleric spells that they may not want to take as one of their own personal spell list but which are useful in a pinch can be relegated to scrolls.
Excellent point!
The only april fool's joke was them not telling you to go great weapon pole arm agonizing hex blast like they do in literally every vid
My Divine Soul made a habit to use extended Death Ward on whomever he could before going to sleep. Very helpful.
Wow great timing! Building one right now for a campaign. Good stuff.
Extended spell and aid are a nice combo.
Especially if you can dump sorcery points to create a high level slot for it! For example a level 7 DSS/CWS (or level 5 with Metamagic adept now) can create a fifth level slot for +20 hp to three allies.
Can you make a video about the best things to do with your bonus action? For spell casters and non? I just discovered the use of flaming sphere and tiny servant
One thing I’m doing is I’m replacing the extra spell you get by picking your deity’s alignment, with picking a cleric domain and getting the domain spells as you level up. I’m sure someone has already had this idea, but I figured I might as well mention it here
Spell sniper plus distant spell turns inflict wounds from the jjba life drain, into a supernatural ability to mug someone from other side of a 60 foot room.
I think another good way to pick up medium or even heavy amour (if you are willing to put 13-15 in str,) is taking 1 or 2 levels of cleric. depending if you want to get the lvl 19 ASI or the lvl 2 channel divinity
Thinking back, a good April fool's joke would have been something like "how to play a purple dragon knight"
OMG! Another video from the Dungeon Dudes! My drow Divine Soul Sorceress of Lolth thanks you very much for the advice! I think DS is an amazing support class: let's not forget Twinning Shield of Faith, Extending Mage Armor, but also Heightening Contagion is not bad at all... ok, the last one is not ver supportive...
Dudes, I want to see your ratings about aberrant mind and clockwork soul😭
Free spells makes them 2 of the best subclasses for sorcerer. Nuff said.
As a divine soul sorcerer, I eventually gained access to Planar Ally. Using Magic Circle and Banishment along with Heightened Spell Metamagic as backups in case things go south, I acted as a middle ground diplomat between a Solar and another PC in our party. He was interested in multiclassing into Warlock, and Me being the main “healer” of the group was starting to weaken a bit. So he settled on the Celestial Patron.
Feel Free to steal this idea if you want. It’s pretty fun to use as a Divine Soul Sorcerer because Sorcerers are naturally good at Charisma based skills, making you genuinely love debating with Fey, Fiends, and Celestials all around, asking for information, making deals, etc. It made my party rely on me when it came to getting information. I felt like Harry Dresden throughout the campaign.
With me a feat you over looked in the PHB is ritual book or Magical Adept and picking up Find Familiar because this will let you cast cure or inflict wounds threw the familiar if you are not going to be a weapon using character
Far and away my most powerful character was a Grave Domain 2/Divine Soul 3. Quicken And Empower metamagic, Inflict Wounds. As a half elf he was going to take Elven accuracy but I retired him after his second session bc I could tell the DM was struggling (Path to the Grave, Quicken IW and Empower on a crit dealt more than 100 damage to an aquatic boss that was supposed to be a multi stage fight).
I had him flavored like he was cursed and he couldn’t touch other people bc “his touch was destined to kill the one he loves most.”
I’ll revisit the build when AL comes back.
I love this. I love this subclass I can make it so freaking edgy and I love it.
You can turn into an absolute frag grenade at low levels with triple casting inflict wounds in a turn
They should have given Divine Souls Sorcerers Bloodline Spells, but instead of a single list they can choose a Domain from the Cleric list and gain those spells. This represents which type of Deity favors the Sorcerer.
I'm currently playing a drow divine soul in Dungeon of the Mad Mage. The versatility the cleric spell list brings is just awesome, and I was glad to see them focus on that. Candidly, I feel like I'm still grappling with how to make the character more optimal (not perfectly optimal; I chose drow as opposed to something like Aasimar for RP reasons) so I appreciate the good tips here. The problem I've been facing is that I'm the party's only full caster, so I end up filling a LOT of roles: healer, blaster, and defensive magic. Took drow high magic as a feat so I could get levitate and dispel magic, plus detect magic on command. Twinning toll the dead has been an effective combat move. I haven't quite been able to make darkness work for me like I hoped I could though.
I’ve played a fighter 2/Divine Soul 6 character wore full plate and after getting an Amulet of Health became the party’s tank. As they stated it’s easy to focus on the buff/healing aspects the Cleric spell lists gives the Divine Soul access to but having access to attack spells that can do 3d10 or 4d6 (Inflict Wounds and Guiding Bolt, respectively) as early as level 1 shouldn’t be overlooked.
The best Option for a spell which got me into the idea of playing a divine soul is a twinned life transference. You still take 4d8 of dmg but you now heal 4 Times as much instead of twice, now that is what I call worth it.
Spirit guardians plus Distance Spell is also a great option
Would LOVE to play an Aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer of Beshaba...... Would absolutely be surrounded by Undead minions of "the unfortunate"...
Or one of Anubis, calling servitors from the sand
I made a changeling divine soul sorcerer whose real deity is Cyric, but whenever he shapeshifts he has a bunch of holy symbols and pretends to be a cleric of different deities all the time. This ties a lot into his and Cyric's relationship, which is really fun bc they're just going to treat all of these impersonations like funny jokes and they're literally just homies, its a lot of fun. He also doesn't have the highest wisdom score, so he's just comically confident about it and will just go around flaunting about the idea that he's clerics for different deities, its a lot of fun. you can also do this with eladrin seasons
You can use the summons from animate dead or create undead to grapple and help in combat if not meat shields as well
I built mine to be such while also use animate objects to do so much damage lol
yaaaasss more specific subclass build guides!!
I have been playing a divine soul Aasimar for the last 2 years. I'm level 12 right now with 10 in sorcerer, 1 in war cleric, and 1 in hexblade warlock. my character is leaning very heavily into the angel side of her heritage so she's all fire and brimstone, with heavy armour and melee combined with healing and long-ranged magic.
So you’re telling me I can meta magic split Guiding Bolt? Sounds good
My kobold is a divine soul sorcerer. I spent the better part of an entire day making a road map of which spells to take on every level up. I had to cut so many great options that the last three that needed to go took hours of internal debate. Each.
These types of videos are my favorite. I listen to a lot of Dungeon Dudes while I'm driving. I love where you talk about character concepts and how the class would work with the races. Excellent stuff you guys are putting out. Thank you!
Heightened Spell + Planar Binding Spell on a charisma based character, just saying. Also don't forget access to Planar ally, Magic Circle, Wish (Glibness), and Skill Empowerment (double proficiency). Get some social skills and even demon lords will be happy to serve under you.
Demon lords have legendary resistance, and they'd definitely burn their uses to avoid being forced to work under an aasimar.
@@JanusHoW Better keep them in the circle then, or get a few murderhobo companions to help in negotiations. ;)
I unfortunately never tried to get any demon lords under my rule, but it was very fun for me to use Planar Ally with Magic Circle. I tried to use it to make deals with Celestial, Fey, and Fiend alike, sort of playing detective on things by asking creatures questions and doing stuff in return, often making persuasion and deception rolls in the process.
Planning ahead, me and another PC actually talked with our GM. My friend was a Paladin who wanted to multiclass into Warlock mostly for those sweet Warlock Cantrips (Eldritch Blast) and invocations.
With some thematic planning on both our parts, I summoned a Solar and acted as a diplomat for the Paladin. Needless to say, he got what he wanted.
Also Distance Spell metamagic, how do you not have that. We have far distances with my games, as well as trying to stay away from most enemies = distance spell metamagic.
Friendly reminder that if your DM has enemies heal themselves or their allies and they’re close enough, you can use Empowered Healing to try and get a lower result
I believe that's only for allies?
@@MerijnH I could be wrong but I think it says any creature within five feet.
1 year late, but It’s specifically allies.
All your videos are on point!
There are two cleric spells that benefit greatly from Distant Spell: divine word, word of radiance. These are probably the only two area of effect spells whose area can be increased by distant spell.
(Touch spells...)
Multiclassing with 1 level dip in Order cleric makes this the best support in the game. Combining voice of authority with your meta magic is so fun and feels incredibly powerful. Start sorcerer for constitution save prof then take one level in order cleric. If you have a 14 dex you can have an 18 ac with scale mail and shield. Take shield spell and shocking grasp for a melee attack and you can survive anywhere on the battlefield
Clockwork Soul should get a revamp and allow 2 spells from level 1-5 from Cleric list as known spells like aberrant/clockwork soul.