Presenting Frank Zappa's solo debut, along with the Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra. Zappa did not perform on the album. It was released briefly in '67 by Capitol Records but then withdrawn due to a lawsuit by MGM Records. It was re-edited in 1968 and released by MGM in '68. The edited recording contains two musique concrète pieces that combined elements from the original orchestral performance with elements of surf music and the spoken word, thus the slight differentiation between the two recordings. It was praised for its music and editing. Lumpy Gravy also happens to be one of my favorite Zappa albums.
I've been listening to the MGM version since it came out. Today in March 2022 was the first time I ever heard this fully uncut orchestral version of the album. What a revelation. I really had no idea existed until I stumbled on it by accident here on RUclips. I typed in lumpy gravy expecting to hear my old favorite color and I was rewarded with the new treat
I have yet to see an actual original Columbia non-acetate vinyl pressing surface. I think they only released a few copies of the 8-track before it got shut down.
"You think with your love you can change all of fools all of the hate, I think you're probably out to lunch." Quintessential Frank Zappa, we're so fortunate to have had him our lives. Mr. Zappa saved from a life of hell, I was the most bullied person in high school (Edison H. Tulsa, OK). After being fed shit all day I'd go home, puff on a 'j' and put the head phones on and my world was immediately absorbed by the brilliant music I was hearing.
You certainly were the only clever and sensitive one in the surround...I'm from France,but had the same feeling at the time,surrounded by motherfuckers listening to Abba and all this shit(preparing their life of good males fiitted for procreation) ...you are so lucky not belonging to them!(excuse my verry bad english)
So here's my theory: first a disclaimer or two, I've never looked hard for the answer so, but it IS interesting and I can't be the first one to say; The resemblance of Oh, No to - well, you know - and so the 'you' of "You say love is all you need..." So what are the chances it's not about John and Yoko? (you probably think *I'm* out to lunch)
@@johnhenrycurry8209 It is about that in fact. The melody, however, was composed {and recorded as this version} two years prior to the broadcast of "All You Need is Love" in 1968. The lyrics were added later and sung by Ray Collins.
I never heard the original until now. I'm digging it. I'm used to the second version and enjoy it, but nice just to hear the instrumentation. Solid effort throughout. The master had such a way with melody and rhythm.
I believe the later version had a lot of dialogue. The Head in a Drum, and Pigs 'n Pony's jabber (or, I'm confusing this cd with We're Only in it For the Money. Hey, I'm drinking beer. I have both on CD, I'll get back to you when i'm sober.
You have to be impressed that Capitol Records A&R representative Nick Venet commissioned an album of orchestral music composed by Frank Zappa and spent $40,000 on the album. In 67 / 68, that's a lot of money,
michael bouwman woah, had no idea. I heard that the 'orchestral named were a bunch if studio musicians Zappa hired? I'd love to learn the details of this album's production. Love it so much!
When ever I hear the first notes of "Up and down" I'm completely melting...sounds like every fairytale woven into one touching sound... 💙🎶🙏🏼 THANKS, Maestro, for his AWWWMAZING album and all your wonderful and unreached music!!!
Hola querido amigo ! Esa melodía la escuche por primera vez en álbum " Were only in it For the money " precisamente en " Mother People " sobre el final y pensé que música más hermosa. ❤❤❤
I wouldn't say underrated as much as underappreciated. Zappa was never radio-friendly. A few good progressive stations in good college towns would sneak his records onto the air periodically, but outside of the stupid hits like Dancin' Fool and Valley Girl, you never heard "good" Zappa music. Certainly never on format radio. Critic reviews of the 68-72 era of Zappa's music was good, but without any exposure, underappreciated is more apt than underrated.
@@zolarczakl3880 On one of his early album covers there's a quote "No commercial potential"--a noted LA disc jockey, I think he may have a tune named "No commercial potential". Peace man
"Nothing but blank...empty...space..... I know he's in the control room, listening to everything I say........ But I truely.....don't ......care..........(helloooooooooo, Frank Zaaaaaappaaaaaaaa)
"Tomorrow I get to do another Frank Zappa creation... and the day after that... and the day after that... also, at the same time, I get to work with The Velvet Underground, which is as shitty a group as Frank Zappa's group..."
It is FUCKING LUDICROUS how rare this version of the album is, fuck finding a copy. I HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND MORE THAN A SINGLE IMAGE OF THE ORIGINAL COPY.
I was listening to one of the "Shut and Play Your Guitar" (I think)LP's, I'm a hardcore fan of Zappa music, as in nothing is too extreme; but an instrumental played and I said, "God what is this shit? I can't wait for it to be over." Then checked out the playlist, he was playing a tune he titled "Canadian Customs" ha-ha-ha, it still brings a smile to my face.
You know what would make this better? Adding several minutes of people just talking nonsense about cars and horses without any musical accompaniment. I say that with love, you understand.
This is pretty damn good, especially considering it was apparently written and arranged in 11 days. There's some interesting stuff not included on the later Verve issue (The latter part of the lovely Up & Down contains the seeds of the 'Golden Arches' motif from Uncle Meat, for example).
@@aquamatic2446 Overall it took closer to 10 months. And on the original the cover says, Is this phase one of Only In It For The Money. Still have all my originals from the '60s.
Thank you so much !!!! I wondered what the original (or primordial) version sounded like. A lost masterpiece that makes the Verve version sounds like Zappa intentionaly salvaged it. I will now try to locate a cheap copy of the RSD vinyl relase for my collection.
200 Motels has a lot of great music, one of the few times Zappa used vocal soloist and choir. Fantastic. I wished he would have edited all the Orchestral music out into a single album. Particularly the opening to the film with the Orchestral remake of Holiday in Berlin Full Blown. Outstanding. By the way, looks like Bela Bartok as your photo. Have you heard Bartok's String Quartet No. 4, 5th movement, Allegro molto?It's about as good as music gets written in 1928, it may as well be the anthem for Progressive Rock, 40 years ahead of anything else, particularly Fripp and King Crimson.
@@andragg at the age of 16/17 i found bartoks "concerto for orchestra" among my mother´s classical records - i took it out because that owl like face on the cover (of course bela himself) made me curious - i was hooked instandly, haha - and it´s my orchestral favourite until today... during the early 90s i had one nice listening adventure with that: i was visiting a friend in berlin and when i woke up in the morning, summer, window open, i heard the familiar and beautiful intro of that very concerto from somewhere out another open window in the backyard, and it found its way past the bicycles and dustbins into my ears - so i lay there and listened through the whole damn thing, yay!!! i followed your suggestion to that string quartet and i know of course what you mean - and you will certainly know the "sacre du printemps" by strawinsky? i also listened to that one countless times after an uncle gave it to me as a christmas gift... :-) it´s from the early 20th century and had premiere in 1911 i think - a huge scandal... :-) i was a big admirer and fan of frank zappa during the 70s, but turned my back on him when "zoot allures" came out, and then "bobby brown" or that live album with "titties and beer" - although that one worked perfectly, haha: all the zappa haters went on the dance floor: he´s not THAT bad is he? and there was other music that fascinated me a lot more... now i recently came back to listen again, i still have a huge respect for his skills and the tremendous work he did, but he somehow is too much "head and shoulders" for me, maybe you understand what i mean - well, quite a while ago i downloaded "200 motels" - saw the film back in the day and LOVED it - that´s why i was almost afraid to listen again, afraid i might be disapointed... after reading your comment here i felt encouraged to do it at last - what can i say? i sat there and listened to the whole album from the first to that last tone and LOVED it again - i still knew almost all by heart all those little nuances and the incredible voice talents and everything, yesssss - what a treat!!! now i just found this cute little thing, maybe you like it either... ruclips.net/video/g7Edm5p7410/видео.html thanks mate! love and greetings from germany
@@andragg The first time I encountered the term “progressive rock”, if I remember right, was in a Stereo Review, um, review of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer’s first record. The first cut on this album is “The Barbarian”, an arrangement of Bartok’s “Allegro Barbaro”. I bought this album before I read the record review, without knowing anything about it or about the group. I just liked the cover. So, yes, I’ve always associated Bartok and progressive rock. (I have the Emerson Quartet’s complete recordings of the Bartok quartets on CD, but I don’t recall that particular movement offhand. I’ll have to refresh my memory. Thanks.)
@@andragg I listened to the Bartok movement in question. It just sounds like typical Bartok to me. I object to your use (apparently in imitation of certain uninformed rock critics) of the term “anthem”, by the way. An anthem is a hymn. (A “national anthem” is a “national hymn”.)
I bought "We're Only In It for the Money" and "Lumpy Gravy" (1967 or 1968) when they first came out on Verve. I don't remember this Capitol version, but it turns out these tracks are available in the "Lumpy Money" CD set.
This, the Capitol version, is the original. It was almost released in 1967 but Verve Records bitched about Frank being their property, not Capitol's. So Frank butched the whole thing, inserted a lot of dialogues and other weird things, and gave it to Verve who released it almost a year later. That's the version we're all used to. This is the first version, as originally conceived by Frank Zappa, finally released now that there's no record company screwing it anymore.
@@IozziEric it was released, albeit briefly, on four/and or/ eight track but was pulled very quickly. There are images of copies kicking around but I have never seen one for sale
Its like the great composer continues to compose even while decomposing. It seems to get better and more relevant as the decades pass. Bravo maestro 👏.
This is the first time that I've heard the Capitol album. It looks like a copy of Lumpy Money will have to be added to my ever-expanding Frank Zappa collection. Thanks for sharing.
If Frank's stuff came out years from now instead of years ago,it would still be ahead of its time. Will there ever be another even a little bit like him? We need it.
+sterioapple I don't think he was ahead of his time at all, he was just ahead of USA... People before him did that kind of stuff... John Cage, Stravinsky, Varese... Zappa just contributed to it and also appropriate himself those frame. He was a genius and a very clever buisness man too...
You're wrong, because you know what John Cage, Stravinsky, and Varese never did, and never will? "One Size Fits All', "Roxy & Elsewhere" and numerous other masterpieces that are completely outside anything created by the above composers. Zappa was ahead of them all in this regard.
+Michael wessel Frank Zappa is the greatest composer and musical innovator of the past 70 years. He was the first to combine Rock and Classic, the first to combine Jazz and Rock and the first to combine R n B and Classic and Rock in one Song. Not to mention the fact that he was a Huge Innovator on the E-Guitar that influenced Steve Vai, Mike Keneally, Guthrie Govan and Mattias Eklundh
It was commissioned and briefly released, on August 7, 1967, by Capitol Records in the 4-track Stereo-Pak format only and then withdrawn due to a lawsuit from MGM Records. MGM claimed that the album violated Zappa's contract with their subsidiary, Verve Records. In 1968 it was reedited and released by MGM's Verve Records on May 13, 1968. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpy_Gravy
Cool version of this album, thanks for sharing it! Very different from the one I'm used to listening to. Honestly this version has less randomness, some of which still makes me laugh, but I think this particular version has better flow for a "New Zappa listener:". (someone who is new to the Zappa world of musical craziness & may become overwhelmed by the obscure nature of the music).
I actually asked frank what pipco Meant because i always heard that no one really knew,i met him when he was signing his book and back then i had no money and a fan noticed i had no book to be signed and he gave me the sleeve off his book.when it was my turn to have frank sign my book all i had was the cover and frank asked if there was a naked book in the store.that day he was telling everyone that he was only signing one thing per person,he signed two things for me that day and answered the question of pipco.....i asked him what does pipco mean and he said what are you referring to and i said the shirt youre wearing on your album and he responded what album? Anyways he said it stood for santa monica pipe company. Those were franks words not mine. The secret is out.....
@@johnsnyder9875 Oh. I just Googled the word PIPCO and it came up with the Baltimore thing and a picture of a similar shirt. I wouldn't try to foist disinformation on the public. Sorry. I know he'd lived in Baltimore when he was young.
@@johnsnyder9875 Oh, none taken, be certain. I was just idly speculating on something I spent about two minutes Googling. It turns out that there's several companies that have used those letters, and the t-shirt I'd seen had nothing to do with the company I mentioned. I'd always wondered what it meant. Now I know. Thanks.
This is the work of a musical genius. The best version I've heard. I have all Frank's albums on vinyl and CD but I don't have this Thank you, sir, for posting this. Is it available on CD, Vinyl or download? I have the Lumpy Gravy album but this is so much more, Again, thank you.
Just learning about Frank now. Introduced to him in ‘97 on the Ice Storm soundtrack (Dirty Money); got Apostrophe(‘) only ten years ago. A long time between drinks. Now going through the back catalogue (stop 3, obviously). I am hearing this as a soundtrack to a dramatic movie. I can’t imagine being a musician being asked to play this! Obviously a lot of Zappa purists out there worrying about blue or green hats on Fuchal. I’m sure Frank was above and beyond that sort of crap! Whether this is the original or a remastered version of his work really isn’t relevant. It gives those of us without access to Frank’s work a means of learning about it in our own time. Incredible is a word that doesn’t do this work justice. Frank Vincent Zappa 1940-1993 R.I.P.
Ce que Frank Zappa exprimait, c'était une magnifique passion pour son art. Que l'on apprécie sa musique est une bonne chose. Que l'on compose à notre tour l'aurait certainement enchanté ! ...
@@velyogendra1287 actually this recording isn’t the capitol version, is slightly different (capitol begins with king kong). the real capitol mix finally was released in a LP called “lumpy gravy primordial”.
First time hearing the Capitol version. I like it a whole lot, but the Verve version was the one I heard first so I enjoy the dialogue in between. I need to get a copy of Lumpy Money now. Thanks for sharing this.
+Jammin Clemmons Apparently Ahmet and Diva are the ones in control, and Gail gave less of the trust to Moon and Dweezil compared to the younger two (20% each for Moon and Dweezil; 30% each for Ahmet and Diva). As of yet, it appears that Ahmet has learned some lessons from Gail, and not in a good way.
Intersesting......MOON and the Dweeze have always been closer to Frank. This begins to make sense. Gail was against others spreading Zappa's music for a profit. One cover band comes to mind, "Project Object" .....When Frank was alive, he was quoted - thousands of times, "Spread my music." If Project Object visits a town near you, I recommend the roadtrip. It's as close to Dweezil doing ZPZ as you can experience. Napolean Murphy Brock has toured and Ike Willis as well. -Cheers-Adam-Cheers-
Гротеск и сарказм - суть его музыки. Всю жизнь он играл музыкальные карикатуры. Я слушая этот альбом смеялся 20 раз😆. Grotesque and sarcasm are the essence of his music. All his life he played musical cartoons. Listening to this album I laughed 20 times😆.
I much prefer this release to the later Verve one. It's more musically pure, hell it's just more musical as the annoying (to me anyway) vocal interludes aren't included and there's a lot more music and less studio experimentation. And the music is terrific!
He was an instructor at musicians institute for many yrs, was there the yr i was there 91-92...a good fella and an immense talent that sadly passed away. Happy to say i got to rub elbows with the man as well as several other Zappa alumni...that yr turned me into a much better musician as well, go figure. :)
I was getting nostalgic for great nights listening to jazz at the old Alfonse’s in Toluca Lake, CA one night and found a picture on the internet. Charlie Chiarenza managed the place but he was also a guitar player. He played in the Baja Marimba Band and with Burt Bacharach. Anyway - this picture - Frank, Tommy, Charlie and a couple other guys around the table at an Italian place in Sylmar. Everybody’s laughing. I don’t know if they are all Italian guitar players, but looks like a fun evening. Search “Tommy Tedesco Frank Zappa” and it should come up.
Do you think if this had have had wider release Zappa as a composer may have been viewed differently and maybe progressed down a different path............
So this is the original version, as it was released in '67? Is this the full version? It's only 22 minutes. I'd love to own a copy of the original full version, if such a thing exists.
The way I hear it Barry this should be a very dynamite show.
Presenting Frank Zappa's solo debut, along with the Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra. Zappa did not perform on the album. It was released briefly in '67 by Capitol Records but then withdrawn due to a lawsuit by MGM Records. It was re-edited in 1968 and released by MGM in '68. The edited recording contains two musique concrète pieces that combined elements from the original orchestral performance with elements of surf music and the spoken word, thus the slight differentiation between the two recordings. It was praised for its music and editing. Lumpy Gravy also happens to be one of my favorite Zappa albums.
I thought it was a ballet.
Every time I see a Frankincensed comment I know I'm about to listen to some quality music
I've been listening to the MGM version since it came out. Today in March 2022 was the first time I ever heard this fully uncut orchestral version of the album. What a revelation. I really had no idea existed until I stumbled on it by accident here on RUclips. I typed in lumpy gravy expecting to hear my old favorite color and I was rewarded with the new treat
Pigs And Ponies.
I have yet to see an actual original Columbia non-acetate vinyl pressing surface. I think they only released a few copies of the 8-track before it got shut down.
It's astonishing that he was self-taught as a composer.
Sublime Music Channel obsessive compulsive disorder at its finest
his father being a mathematician didn't hurt, I'm sure, genetically.
He did one semester of music theory at community college. but yes, mostly self taught
@@tonymostromable DS t zzz's
A lot of people are self-taught in many fields. That's how you learn most stuff. No one's going to do all the hard work for you.
His albums were like cinema for the ears--amazing stuff.
Greatest American composer in history.
There is on and will never be a composer as great as he!
"You think with your love you can change all of fools all of the hate, I think you're probably out to lunch." Quintessential Frank Zappa, we're so fortunate to have had him our lives. Mr. Zappa saved from a life of hell, I was the most bullied person in high school (Edison H. Tulsa, OK). After being fed shit all day I'd go home, puff on a 'j' and put the head phones on and my world was immediately absorbed by the brilliant music I was hearing.
You certainly were the only clever and sensitive one in the surround...I'm from France,but had the same feeling at the time,surrounded by motherfuckers listening to Abba and all this shit(preparing their life of good males fiitted for procreation)
...you are so lucky not belonging to them!(excuse my verry bad english)
So here's my theory: first a disclaimer or two, I've never looked hard for the answer so, but it IS interesting and I can't be the first one to say; The resemblance of Oh, No to - well, you know - and so the 'you' of "You say love is all you need..." So what are the chances it's not about John and Yoko? (you probably think *I'm* out to lunch)
@@johnhenrycurry8209 It is about that in fact. The melody, however, was composed {and recorded as this version} two years prior to the broadcast of "All You Need is Love" in 1968. The lyrics were added later and sung by Ray Collins.
I’m happy you had some solace in his music, protection…you’re cool man!
@@eis904 Thank you so much for uplifting my evening. Hope you have a happy life.
I never knew he released this on Capitol. Thanks for the upload!
I never heard the original until now. I'm digging it. I'm used to the second version and enjoy it, but nice just to hear the instrumentation. Solid effort throughout. The master had such a way with melody and rhythm.
I believe the later version had a lot of dialogue. The Head in a Drum, and Pigs 'n Pony's jabber (or, I'm confusing this cd with We're Only in it For the Money.
Hey, I'm drinking beer. I have both on CD, I'll get back to you when i'm sober.
@@JamminClemmons : 2 years later ...
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@@JamminClemmons 4 years later...
@@JamminClemmons more beer
I thought I already loved Lumpy Gravy. I just got more to love.
You have to be impressed that Capitol Records A&R representative Nick Venet commissioned an album of orchestral music composed by Frank Zappa and spent $40,000 on the album. In 67 / 68, that's a lot of money,
michael bouwman woah, had no idea. I heard that the 'orchestral named were a bunch if studio musicians Zappa hired? I'd love to learn the details of this album's production. Love it so much!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpy_Gravy
sounds like a good investment to me...i'd of done it just for the love of...:)
Jews?
Whoa.
When ever I hear the first notes of "Up and down" I'm completely melting...sounds like every fairytale woven into one touching sound... 💙🎶🙏🏼 THANKS, Maestro,
for his AWWWMAZING album and all your wonderful and unreached music!!!
Hola querido amigo ! Esa melodía la escuche por primera vez en álbum " Were only in it For the money " precisamente en " Mother People " sobre el final y pensé que música más hermosa. ❤❤❤
@@diegopelozo2679 😌🩵👌🏼
@@diegopelozo2679yes- in Mother People it also happens...💫
I wish more people understood…
(1967) as performed by the Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra
No. Title Length
1. "Sink Trap" 0:01
2. "Gum Joy" 2:45
3. "Up and Down" 6:29
4. "Local Butcher" 8:21
5. "Gypsy Airs" 10:56
6. "Hunchy Punchy" 12:38
7. "Foamy Soaky" 14:44
8. "Let's Eat Out" 17:33
9. "Teenage Grand Finale" 19:06
Emuukah is his kids middle name
I love That Zappa Era from 1968 to 1972 a very underrated Era of Frank Zappa
Definitely, I agree!
I wouldn't say underrated as much as underappreciated. Zappa was never radio-friendly. A few good progressive stations in good college towns would sneak his records onto the air periodically, but outside of the stupid hits like Dancin' Fool and Valley Girl, you never heard "good" Zappa music. Certainly never on format radio. Critic reviews of the 68-72 era of Zappa's music was good, but without any exposure, underappreciated is more apt than underrated.
@@zolarczakl3880 On one of his early album covers there's a quote "No commercial potential"--a noted LA disc jockey, I think he may have a tune named "No commercial potential". Peace man
underated? thats when i first discovered zappa. blew my little 13 yr old mind....mind still gone
Oh you talking Mothers of Invention.It cant happen here?
A true master of the 20th century!
fantastic version of the mighty lumpy gravy,unknown to us so far.I guess this the serious version.Absolutely zappa essential
"Nothing but blank...empty...space.....
I know he's in the control room, listening to everything I say........
But I truely.....don't ......care..........(helloooooooooo, Frank Zaaaaaappaaaaaaaa)
It's a foreshadowing of how the band discuss and relate to Frank in 200 Motels.
@@dantean He stole everything and makes it up for the Movie
"Tomorrow I get to do another Frank Zappa creation... and the day after that... and the day after that... also, at the same time, I get to work with The Velvet Underground, which is as shitty a group as Frank Zappa's group..."
@Deli 6505 - Hi Jimmy. Where's Suzie Creamcheese?
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Classic. Personal favorite. One of many.
The mad genius at his creative best.....
This is very special for me, a masterpiece.
It is FUCKING LUDICROUS how rare this version of the album is, fuck finding a copy. I HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND MORE THAN A SINGLE IMAGE OF THE ORIGINAL COPY.
I was listening to one of the "Shut and Play Your Guitar" (I think)LP's, I'm a hardcore fan of Zappa music, as in nothing is too extreme; but an instrumental played and I said, "God what is this shit? I can't wait for it to be over." Then checked out the playlist, he was playing a tune he titled "Canadian Customs" ha-ha-ha, it still brings a smile to my face.
One of the greatest musical records. Bored out 90 over
"Oh no I don't believe it."
You know what would make this better? Adding several minutes of people just talking nonsense about cars and horses without any musical accompaniment.
I say that with love, you understand.
So glad this version is available, that Louie the Turkey stuff got old pretty fast.
talk about pygmies and ponies.
Yeah, I don't have that much love. I'll take this version, thanks.
PONIES !!
What about using chickens to measure?
I definitely prefer this version best. More music.
Amazing. Just amazing. And beautiful. Just beautiful. 10/10
Ridiculously technical ,...genius ,.... every album ,,...that was ZAPPA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such great music, this is one of my favorite Zappa albums.
I like how Gum Joy later turned into a love song sung by Napoleon Murphy Brock.
The work of a genius
This is pretty damn good, especially considering it was apparently written and arranged in 11 days. There's some interesting stuff not included on the later Verve issue (The latter part of the lovely Up & Down contains the seeds of the 'Golden Arches' motif from Uncle Meat, for example).
You can hear "King Kong" in "Foamy Soaky".
this is not a ten days composition/production marvel,I guess it took just a little more despite zappas extraordinary abilities
@@aquamatic2446 Overall it took closer to 10 months. And on the original the cover says, Is this phase one of Only In It For The Money. Still have all my originals from the '60s.
I hear “Oh No” in this one too!
Thank you so much !!!! I wondered what the original (or primordial) version sounded like. A lost masterpiece that makes the Verve version sounds like Zappa intentionaly salvaged it. I will now try to locate a cheap copy of the RSD vinyl relase for my collection.
I wish I could hear more of his classical music written around this time, it has that authentic Varese sound.
200 Motels has a lot of great music, one of the few times Zappa used vocal soloist and choir. Fantastic. I wished he would have edited all the Orchestral music out into a single album. Particularly the opening to the film with the Orchestral remake of Holiday in Berlin Full Blown. Outstanding. By the way, looks like Bela Bartok as your photo. Have you heard Bartok's String Quartet No. 4, 5th movement, Allegro molto?It's about as good as music gets written in 1928, it may as well be the anthem for Progressive Rock, 40 years ahead of anything else, particularly Fripp and King Crimson.
@@andragg at the age of 16/17 i found bartoks "concerto for orchestra" among my mother´s classical records - i took it out because that owl like face on the cover (of course bela himself) made me curious - i was hooked instandly, haha - and it´s my orchestral favourite until today...
during the early 90s i had one nice listening adventure with that: i was visiting a friend in berlin and when i woke up in the morning, summer, window open, i heard the familiar and beautiful intro of that very concerto from somewhere out another open window in the backyard, and it found its way past the bicycles and dustbins into my ears - so i lay there and listened through the whole damn thing, yay!!!
i followed your suggestion to that string quartet and i know of course what you mean - and you will certainly know the "sacre du printemps" by strawinsky? i also listened to that one countless times after an uncle gave it to me as a christmas gift... :-) it´s from the early 20th century and had premiere in 1911 i think - a huge scandal... :-)
i was a big admirer and fan of frank zappa during the 70s, but turned my back on him when "zoot allures" came out, and then "bobby brown" or that live album with "titties and beer" - although that one worked perfectly, haha: all the zappa haters went on the dance floor: he´s not THAT bad is he?
and there was other music that fascinated me a lot more...
now i recently came back to listen again, i still have a huge respect for his skills and the tremendous work he did, but he somehow is too much "head and shoulders" for me, maybe you understand what i mean - well, quite a while ago i downloaded "200 motels" - saw the film back in the day and LOVED it - that´s why i was almost afraid to listen again, afraid i might be disapointed...
after reading your comment here i felt encouraged to do it at last - what can i say? i sat there and listened to the whole album from the first to that last tone and LOVED it again - i still knew almost all by heart all those little nuances and the incredible voice talents and everything, yesssss - what a treat!!!
now i just found this cute little thing, maybe you like it either...
ruclips.net/video/g7Edm5p7410/видео.html
thanks mate!
love and greetings from germany
@@andragg thank you for the info,not educated in classical so I'll use that as a starting point.
@@andragg The first time I encountered the term “progressive rock”, if I remember right, was in a Stereo Review, um, review of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer’s first record. The first cut on this album is “The Barbarian”, an arrangement of Bartok’s “Allegro Barbaro”. I bought this album before I read the record review, without knowing anything about it or about the group. I just liked the cover. So, yes, I’ve always associated Bartok and progressive rock. (I have the Emerson Quartet’s complete recordings of the Bartok quartets on CD, but I don’t recall that particular movement offhand. I’ll have to refresh my memory. Thanks.)
@@andragg I listened to the Bartok movement in question. It just sounds like typical Bartok to me. I object to your use (apparently in imitation of certain uninformed rock critics) of the term “anthem”, by the way. An anthem is a hymn. (A “national anthem” is a “national hymn”.)
I bought "We're Only In It for the Money" and "Lumpy Gravy" (1967 or 1968) when they first came out on Verve. I don't remember this Capitol version, but it turns out these tracks are available in the "Lumpy Money" CD set.
This, the Capitol version, is the original. It was almost released in 1967 but Verve Records bitched about Frank being their property, not Capitol's. So Frank butched the whole thing, inserted a lot of dialogues and other weird things, and gave it to Verve who released it almost a year later. That's the version we're all used to. This is the first version, as originally conceived by Frank Zappa, finally released now that there's no record company screwing it anymore.
@@IozziEric it was released, albeit briefly, on four/and or/ eight track but was pulled very quickly. There are images of copies kicking around but I have never seen one for sale
Its like the great composer continues to compose even while decomposing. It seems to get better and more relevant as the decades pass. Bravo maestro 👏.
A typical Zappa collage. Brilliant.
Frank is the #1 guy I think of when I think of a Musical Genius.
This is the first time that I've heard the Capitol album. It looks like a copy of Lumpy Money will have to be added to my ever-expanding Frank Zappa collection. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing!Frank Zappa was a genius.R.I.P.
If Frank's stuff came out years from now instead of years ago,it would still be ahead of its time. Will there ever be another even a little bit like him? We need it.
+sterioapple
I don't think he was ahead of his time at all, he was just ahead of USA...
People before him did that kind of stuff... John Cage, Stravinsky, Varese... Zappa just contributed to it and also appropriate himself those frame. He was a genius and a very clever buisness man too...
You're wrong, because you know what John Cage, Stravinsky, and Varese never did, and never will? "One Size Fits All', "Roxy & Elsewhere" and numerous other masterpieces that are completely outside anything created by the above composers. Zappa was ahead of them all in this regard.
Fact.
+Michael wessel
Frank Zappa is the greatest composer and musical innovator of the past 70 years. He was the first to combine Rock and Classic, the first to combine Jazz and Rock
and the first to combine R n B and Classic and Rock in one Song. Not to mention the fact that he was a Huge Innovator on the E-Guitar that influenced
Steve Vai, Mike Keneally, Guthrie Govan and Mattias Eklundh
I'll have to check out Govan & Eklundh. Never heard of em! Thanks!
It was commissioned and briefly released, on August 7, 1967, by Capitol Records in the 4-track Stereo-Pak format only and then withdrawn due to a lawsuit from MGM Records. MGM claimed that the album violated Zappa's contract with their subsidiary, Verve Records. In 1968 it was reedited and released by MGM's Verve Records on May 13, 1968. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpy_Gravy
Amazing album cover. I love the top hat. 🎩
How brave a great artist has to be to give this to us. Thank you.
Music is The Best
Cool version of this album, thanks for sharing it! Very different from the one I'm used to listening to. Honestly this version has less randomness, some of which still makes me laugh, but I think this particular version has better flow for a "New Zappa listener:". (someone who is new to the Zappa world of musical craziness & may become overwhelmed by the obscure nature of the music).
"PIPCO", on his T-shirt, is a heating and air-conditioning company in Baltimore.
I actually asked frank what pipco Meant because i always heard that no one really knew,i met him when he was signing his book and back then i had no money and a fan noticed i had no book to be signed and he gave me the sleeve off his book.when it was my turn to have frank sign my book all i had was the cover and frank asked if there was a naked book in the store.that day he was telling everyone that he was only signing one thing per person,he signed two things for me that day and answered the question of pipco.....i asked him what does pipco mean and he said what are you referring to and i said the shirt youre wearing on your album and he responded what album?
Anyways he said it stood for santa monica pipe company.
Those were franks words not mine.
The secret is out.....
@@johnsnyder9875 Oh. I just Googled the word PIPCO and it came up with the Baltimore thing and a picture of a similar shirt. I wouldn't try to foist disinformation on the public. Sorry. I know he'd lived in Baltimore when he was young.
I wasnt implying anything,i was just sharing what frank told me years ago.
Sorry about that,i meant no I'll will.
Just a fan too.
@@johnsnyder9875 Oh, none taken, be certain. I was just idly speculating on something I spent about two minutes Googling. It turns out that there's several companies that have used those letters, and the t-shirt I'd seen had nothing to do with the company I mentioned. I'd always wondered what it meant. Now I know. Thanks.
Now in the 21st Century...I like the this version better than the Verve...Still listening...Still learning...Thank You, Frank Zappa...
.2-21-19...
This is the work of a musical genius. The best version I've heard. I have all Frank's albums on vinyl and CD but I don't have this Thank you, sir, for posting this. Is it available on CD, Vinyl or download? I have the Lumpy Gravy album but this is so much more, Again, thank you.
You can find this on the compilation "Lumpy Money Project / Object", which contains also the "classic" version of Lumpy Gravy.
Ooh yeah, that's just fine - c'mon boys, just one more time!
Do it again! Do it again!
I think I might prefer this over the lumpy gravy we all know and love
I only dreamt I lived in a drum ...
I love the Capitol Version. Thanks for sharing.
Just learning about Frank now. Introduced to him in ‘97 on the Ice Storm soundtrack (Dirty Money); got Apostrophe(‘) only ten years ago. A long time between drinks. Now going through the back catalogue (stop 3, obviously).
I am hearing this as a soundtrack to a dramatic movie. I can’t imagine being a musician being asked to play this!
Obviously a lot of Zappa purists out there worrying about blue or green hats on Fuchal. I’m sure Frank was above and beyond that sort of crap! Whether this is the original or a remastered version of his work really isn’t relevant. It gives those of us without access to Frank’s work a means of learning about it in our own time.
Incredible is a word that doesn’t do this work justice. Frank Vincent Zappa 1940-1993 R.I.P.
Thanks very much for this! Haven't heard 'Lumpy Gravy' in decades....
Ce que Frank Zappa exprimait, c'était une magnifique passion pour son art.
Que l'on apprécie sa musique est une bonne chose. Que l'on compose à notre tour l'aurait certainement enchanté ! ...
Wow! Really cool to hear this first version! Much thanks!
Iv'e had this for a few years, I like it more than the secondary release from Verve truthfully. It has a cool raw-ness to it.
I have this beautiful recording on vinyl.
My brother had the Verve album. I never realized it was this short of an album.
@@velyogendra1287 actually this recording isn’t the capitol version, is slightly different (capitol begins with king kong). the real capitol mix finally was released in a LP called “lumpy gravy primordial”.
Now it's on spotify. Good enough.
Soundtrack From An Imaginary Movie.
Tommaso Bartolini
THANKYOU KINDLY FOR UPLOAD,TOMMASO
Gracias por compartirlo.
Gran oportunidad para comparar esta edición con la original.
Love Zappa!
Was here! just marking how long it will be before I get back here, as i didn't comment last time.
varese's shadow is strong in this one
Indeed it is.
maybe, but the melody is all zappa
Varese, Webern, Stravinsky, Carter, Schoenberg and Boulez everywhere in Zappa's classical music.
John Appleseed Martin Skrillberry, especially "Segue for melting ice."
Master Zappa, great stuff
Wow, this is different than the Verve issue, excellent.
"Harry, you're a Beast"
my favorite Zappa album
BEST FRANK ZAPPA!
FUCK'N TASTIC!
This is fricken ZappaTaztic!!
I only have the other version of this, but I think this one is *much* better.
First time hearing the Capitol version. I like it a whole lot, but the Verve version was the one I heard first so I enjoy the dialogue in between. I need to get a copy of Lumpy Money now. Thanks for sharing this.
Completely agree.
His talent was as immense as his weirdness.
I guess the stereo version is still in the vaults somewhere. Why Gail only issued the mono mix we'll probably never know!
Well....you posted this a year ago. Since, Gail has passed away.
It's up tp Dweezil and company now.
+Jammin Clemmons Apparently Ahmet and Diva are the ones in control, and Gail gave less of the trust to Moon and Dweezil compared to the younger two (20% each for Moon and Dweezil; 30% each for Ahmet and Diva). As of yet, it appears that Ahmet has learned some lessons from Gail, and not in a good way.
Intersesting......MOON and the Dweeze have always been closer to Frank. This begins to make sense. Gail was against others spreading Zappa's music for a profit. One cover band comes to mind, "Project Object" .....When Frank was alive, he was quoted - thousands of times, "Spread my music." If Project Object visits a town near you, I recommend the roadtrip. It's as close to Dweezil doing ZPZ as you can experience. Napolean Murphy Brock has toured and Ike Willis as well. -Cheers-Adam-Cheers-
Ahmet vomit
Well, you said it right there: Gail.
“Let me see that.”
mONTHS AND YEARS OF COMMENTS JUST SBOUT SUMS IT UP.
P.S.... Frank I done miss ya.
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Гротеск и сарказм - суть его музыки. Всю жизнь он играл музыкальные карикатуры. Я слушая этот альбом смеялся 20 раз😆.
Grotesque and sarcasm are the essence of his music. All his life he played musical cartoons. Listening to this album I laughed 20 times😆.
simplesmente genial
If its Zappa its great.nuff said
+Studebaker Hawke Yeah, n if its bad its probably country.
or kanye
I much prefer this release to the later Verve one. It's more musically pure, hell it's just more musical as the annoying (to me anyway) vocal interludes aren't included and there's a lot more music and less studio experimentation. And the music is terrific!
You mean "poneys"?
Did Zappa ever mention Harry Partch as an inspiration?
@Gonçalo Fernandes well then he obviously knew of his influence
I don't mean to be a pedantic zappa know-all but isn't the first part called 'Sink Trap' (not 'Skin Trap'?
You're right! I will correct the track list.
Youch! Skin trap sounds like a bad zipper malfunction!
zolar czakl hahaha
BlackWhirlies Skin Trap would be a great song title for a Frank tune. I could just imagine the story line 😝
@@zolarczakl3880 baaaaad memories! LOL
one part of this I thought my smoke alarm was going off
the first part of up and down is used as an interlude in "mother people" from we're only in it for the money
I wish the King Kong segment went on longer.
Frank composed most of this music when he was just 7 years old. Between milk and cookies.
Is this phase two of we're only in it for the money? it's so extraordinary to listen to his music
Zappa will rock your brains!
Tommy Tedesco on guitar.
He was an instructor at musicians institute for many yrs, was there the yr i was there 91-92...a good fella and an immense talent that sadly passed away. Happy to say i got to rub elbows with the man as well as several other Zappa alumni...that yr turned me into a much better musician as well, go figure. :)
I was getting nostalgic for great nights listening to jazz at the old Alfonse’s in Toluca Lake, CA one night and found a picture on the internet. Charlie Chiarenza managed the place but he was also a guitar player. He played in the Baja Marimba Band and with Burt Bacharach. Anyway - this picture - Frank, Tommy, Charlie and a couple other guys around the table at an Italian place in Sylmar. Everybody’s laughing. I don’t know if they are all Italian guitar players, but looks like a fun evening. Search “Tommy Tedesco Frank Zappa” and it should come up.
so cool it hurts
most of the stuff was composed when frank was l5 and l6 years old.
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Anyone know the songs Shelly Manne played drums on?
Do you think if this had have had wider release Zappa as a composer may have been viewed differently and maybe progressed down a different path............
So this is the original version, as it was released in '67? Is this the full version? It's only 22 minutes. I'd love to own a copy of the original full version, if such a thing exists.
I much prefer this version.
1. Sink Trap
2. Gum Joy
3. Up and Down
4. Local Butcher
5. Gypsy Airs
6. Hunchy Punchy
7. Foamy Soaky
8. Let's Eat Out
9. Teenage Grand Finale