If this is a true story, then he had to be the village idiot not to understand and see what is going on. I truly don't believe all of it but some I can accept.
17 years as an Expat I have unfortunately known more than a few Expats who have had similar horror stories. Resort's, multiple condos, house's, businesses and ultimately the relationship vaporized. Often the woman pisses away fortune's from gambling and / or squandering without a care. One individual managed a Trifecta. "You can't make this stuff up!" As a side note this also happens frequently with Thai men who work overseas. They come back and it's all gone. 🙏
interesting it happens to Thai men too. I had wondered if Thai women justified to themselves their rinsing of falangs on the basis that they were rich anyway. Now that idea has been kicked away, all that's left is that they simply don't consider anything beyond their own greed
This is true websites have 000s and 0,000s of exact same stories only difference is the depth of money lost savings gone its not just expats and Thai men also lose everything. Its just local guys have a better chnace to get something back and for expats there is deffo a no Thai refunds sign up and if you have kids then no chance
My sister in laws sister just broke into her mothers house and stole a few baht of gold also Ownership Books for the PCX scooter which she then pawned And she tried too break into the family safe to get to the house and land papers the mother had but luckily she phuked that one up and couldn't open it Thais rip each other off all the time The mother got her arrested but what happens is anyones guess
"Bui" and this woman probably had a plan together from the beginning. It's not unusual that Thai couples are in it together when it comes to a game of "dupe a farang" or "dupe a group of farangs".
@@nostringsguy185 definitely. A girl in patong invited her friend to our table. I just politely made an excused and called it a night. Beers/drink was already paid. A nice bartender in another bar told me to never fall for that trick.
Before getting involved with anything beyond boom boom in SEA, ask yourself this: Am I ok with going back to the workforce and starting over again financially???
One thing I learned the hard way. In the beginning, if the aerobics are not good, don't count on it getting better. I had a Japanese wife who had issues and acted like it was a chore. She scheduled all aerobics, and we never had any spontaneous aerobics. She would never want to discuss the issue. This was the reason it all fell apart. I owned a bar in Daytona Beach, Florida. I found aerobics elsewhere with ease. It's ashamed because I truly cared. But I divorced her against her will.
The trouble with having too much positive Karma is that it can destroy you completely in the modern society, You need to have a balanced mindset and to understand how important the word NO means.
@@spartanx169x + In Hindu and Buddhist philosophies, karma refers to the “cause and effect” process by which good actions breed more good actions, and bad actions bring about more bad actions. Having mainly good feeling and saying Yes to everting, can cause you to lose all of your hard-earned possessions/money and your life in today society. You have to have a balanced life. NO is an important word, it could save your life.
Thanks to the subscriber who shared this story and don't listen to all the cynical keyboard warriors who think they 'know it all about Thai women'. It is actually very difficult to pick up on a personality-disordered woman, especially if they are from a different culture and especially when you are consumed in the madness called 'love'. Buddhist compassion and loving-kindness meditation can easily be confused with aspects of 'love', and can leave one overly trusting and somewhat naive. The Buddha was correct in his description of the 'house-holder life' - if you can handle living alone, and many men can't, but if you can... then it makes life a lot easier.
Really feel for this guy. I think he was too forgiving of the red flags. Some of these girls can't change or improve themselves with self-reflection, because in their own mind they are already perfect. How wrong they are...
Guys need to wake the hell up! Most Thai women can’t be trusted, don’t dismiss any red flags and when you see one, RUN! Don’t ever buy a house, keep your options and flexibility! For the love of god, Rent, Rent Rent!!!
Crusty old expats have built all the houses in issan.they boost about it on there strict facebook page.its only a matter of time .one good argument it's all gone.
I've lived in Germany. People are reserved, honest, polite and very logical. So there you have it and why I feel there is a problem to start with. At least a Brit is more aggressive and chaotic, so can probably defend themselves more effectively. But that is a gross generalisation.
I love that and I think that's a very good description of us Brits. Only yesterday yet another Indian tried to start an argument with me in Pattaya (just visiting and I just picked up a menu to read and an Indian started ordering me to put the menu down, he was quickly met with aggression) and he soon backed down as we can go from calm to raging in a split second. My Thai g/f is used to it now and it's taken here a while to get used to English people but I always explain it like this. Generally, we are similar to Thai, trouble avoidant, but if you start a problem with a Brit, we can become aggressive in an instant and we don't back down easily. Maybe we appear chaotic to others but in our minds we are very normal. I did apologise in my best Thai to all the staff in the restaurant but they all agreed with me.
@@Paul_in_Thailand The problem with people from crowded countries like India or China is that some of them have no idea of a private space. They simply do not understand that when I am standing and looking at a menu they need to give me some time to do it in private and not try to peak over my shoulder breathing in my ear. I would do the same courtesy to them, just would wait a little until they are done with the menu and it is my turn to check the selection of dishes. I am not a racist and I know a plenty of guys from India and Asia with proper manners who fully understand the importance of privacy and the private space.
I will never forget Toby (England) from Hua Hin, back around 2001. He had a bar in Soi Bintabath on the first corner. Married to a thai woman. I liked the bar, took a girl and travelled around southern Thailand with her. No problem. Next year I came back and his bar was gone. I talked to a ladyboy that told me that he was killed by his wifes family. And not only killed, but chopped into little pieces, burried in the ground around the house that he had bought and paid for! The police found out and his widow (wife!) got 25 years in jail, and more than a few cousins was sentenced as well. Why they did it? They felt entiteled. He was not helping out the extended family enough, they thought. Hard to believe how they truly think, these thais.... Truly amazing! I can never forget Toby. Last time I saw him, he was a jolly fellow, late 30'ies, super friendly. Everybody liked him. Except his wife's lazy cousins.
Not surprising, sadly. I'm not familiar with this case, but I have read about others in Thailand (and the Philippines, etc.). Edit: I did some googling, and I _do_ remember this case. I didn't remember the name (Toby Charnaud) , but yeah this was a horrible one. Poor guy. I wouldn't do to my worst enemy what his wife had done to him.
It is not just Thais who do this shit - it is entitled people who believe the world owes them something and are too lazy to get of their butts and make their own money the old fashioned way through blood, sweet and tears. But they are happy to get off their lazy butts to rob, cheat and kill.
@@mynameisstilljafo4063 Hello, friend. Thank you so much for writing Toby's full name. I just googled him. I will read all about it. I have heard so many stories while in Thailand, and after some years you just shrug it off. But this one stands out in my book. Thank you again. Cheers!
Man, what a tragic story. RIP your friend. Horrible fate. I'm a Sri Lankan-Aussie and I would never go near a Thai girl . It's just too dangerous. All the best !
Rule#1... Smiling faces sometimes they don't tell the truth Rule#2... Trust no one. Rule#3... They can all turn against you. Rule#4... The farangi never wins. When you're a stranger in a strange land follow these rules and you'll be OK. Otherwise you're just spinning the big wheel again and again. 😎
Regarding rule 4 it'd be better to get ripped off by a professional lawyer on paper. Never let your wife do business and finances and purchases for you
You are 40 years old and not 70. You have two healthy legs. There is no excuse for you not checking your financial situation by set up. None. I got company, car, Jetskis, boat, condo in Thailand - in my name - no Thai chick can cheat you if you are in the driving seat. And you must be. Always. Meaning you have YOUR lawyer doing everything for you. Always. A Thai woman that do not respect you is only because she is in control. A Thai woman that tells you she do not love you is because she has sucked up everything that there is to be had from you. Thats why you must ensure that she can never reach this point; - Company in your name - she an employee with a fixed salary per month. Car(s) in your name she can drive one of them. Scooters etc same. Condo in your name. Land in your company. Unfortunately you did it all wrong. To anybody out there that wants to hook up with a Thai woman - remember - in Thailand everything can be in your name! - Do not believe her rubbish. Do not build on her land. Do not pay for anything in her name. NEVER.
@@athitaya6898 There are several resources on line that state foreigners can not own land. Condos? yes. But thats it. The information is easily found online. Fun fact, its the same in the Philippines.
@@spartanx169x I didn’t mention owning the land, I said leasing the land. As mentioned by another poster, the company can own the land. I’ve never understood the farang obsession of putting land in someone else’s name with no protection under the law.
Never let a woman take over your finances. You give what you can afford and keep the rest either out of Thailand or in your control. No way would any woman get hold of my finances wife or not.
sounds familiar to me! when you first encounter the 180 degree shift in her personality that is the time to fly! believe me there is nothing you can salvage run!
Love, feelings, sentiments, heart-strings, loyalty, faithfulness hardly exist in SEA. Forget romantic sh$t like Romeo and Juliette. Sadly, it's ALL about what you can do or represent for them. It's mostly GAMES!!!
Let's not forget that "Romeo and Juliette" is just a fantasy, a fairy tale. The reality of that time was as cynical and pragmatic as it is now in SE Asia: arranged marriages and money (and power for aristocracy). In reality both Romeo and Juliette would be told by their parents whom they were about to marry and they would not dare oppose their father's will 😒
Come to the Philippines. Girls I am dating treat me like a king, and are ashamed to ask me for 100 pesos. Decent, submissive, marriageable women are easy to find
Try calling People faragns or what ever they call them In our countries , You would be shot down as a racist , imagine saying Forieners Can"t own Land , and were the Racists LOL
@@BigBrother04 i've been in Cebu now for 3 months now and have met many girls with just zero or one lifetime sexual partners. Pretty much all of the girls i'm dating now are ashamed to even ask me for 100 pesos and prefer to pay their own way even if it means spending all their money. If you lead the relationship with your mind and body and don't spend money on them the woman can still fall in love with you.
Narcissists are everywhere and they are extremely dangerous. I am divorced and loving it. I save and invest 90% of my after tax income and have no intentions of sharing it with anyone. My advice to all men out there is to protect yourself because nobody else is going to protect you, and enjoy the rewards of your hard labour by not sharing with leeches.
This is exactly what happened to me with my American wife, bad sx, no sx, she ran around with another guy for 8 years until they finally broke up, I never considered it was from the very bad aerobics LOL. We didn't separate, I stayed with her and eventually had a major mental and physical breakdown. Still trying to get over it every day, but at least I didn't give all my money to the lawyers. I still can't believe we are still together after 30 years and I still struggle with it every day. My heart is hardened like a bag of broken pulverized glass. 😢 Only death will set me free.
Guys, in Thailand you as a foreigner can own everything in your name. Cars, bikes, houses, condos, boats, planes etc... With land you have to own a Thai company in order to register the land. Let the company own the land, lease it 30 years USUFRUCT in your name. You as a private person can lend money to the company and get a mortgage stamped in the charnod at Landoffice.
All the warning signs were there. If she's not good in the bedroom it means she doesn't like him. Total trust in a woman with his money, especially in a foreign country is just plain foolishness. He needs to go back to the monastery and stay there for the rest of his life, where he is safe from Thai women 😅
This sounds like a classic malignant narcissist. Love bombing is the standard strategy at the start for manipulating their victims. Alas, people believe what they want to believe, no matter the evidence before their eyes. His willful naivety and childlike credulity did him in. A sad story...
You are an incredible and horrific story. This is… hard to believe somebody can be so heartless.. but yes, I believe it because it happened to me too.. oh it was with a Japanese woman not Thai.. I’d love to tell the story, but it’s too convoluted, and absolutely too painful to think through.. I suffered the pain and moved on, but I’m still stuck with a lot of anger.. that will hopefully dissipate..
Tell your story William. As painful as it may feel, it will most likely begin the process of recovery. By sharing in this way, your anger is expressed, and thus, you may integrate the episode as experience and move on the wiser for it.
Unfortunately, marriage is totally dysfunctional both in the West and in Thailand. Marriage simply means that you take a full responsibility for a woman's actions but have no control over the situation 🤷 It is as stupid as taking responsibility for the consequences of the reckless driving of a taxi driver that takes you to an airport. He drives as he wishes and you get responsible for the damage 😱 It is hard for many men but we have no other option but to stay single and do P4P 😔
Live and learn, walk away and NEVER look back. She and Bui will lose it all and have sweet fuck all just like they started out with in a very short time. Lesson learned, NEVER put more into a situation than you are prepared to "walk away"from. Never EVER EVER EVER and make sure you only put enough as you need as you go into a Thai bank account. She can't touch what you have at home, especially if she doesn't know about it and there should ALWAYS be an account that ONLY you know about. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS! Life really isn't that difficult.
There are enough horror stories out there on the internet that this guy should have known better. Like someone else wrote below, he ignored every red flag and proceeded anyway...
Same old story, what they think about the lady, first off never seems to come to fruition. We live we learn, thank god my experiences haven't cost me the world, the most i,ve spent on 1 lady is probably 4,000 dollars. But that was over a year and half of living on and off with her while working in Vietnam. Nothing major, Always remember never go big with bikes cars or houses and businesses. Just little shit, it,s better that way. Less headaches. Cheers 30 years has taught me be very cautious. I was shown the right way 1st and 2nd time going to Thailand, very lucky for that.😊
The woman I met when travelling in suphanburi 8 years ago is the sweetest person I could ever have met,she was as poor as a door mouse but humble what she has now is far removed from what she had then in terms of a home and security for her life and she is still the same way now as she was then taoist humble hahaha i call her cheap charlie because she is so used to having nothing she still shops the same way,her two kids are brought up with respect nothing gets wasted and she says she's happy because she has a good man nothing about material stuff.
What a horror story, the worst so far on your channel Dan, haha. I feel so sorry for the guy, he seems to be very decent. Looks like being honest and trustworthy is a curse sometimes. He walked straight into a little piece of hell on earth and met this devil. Lessons to be learned, your channel does a good job
When the aerobics isn't great at the first nite, why have a second one? That makes no sense. Belive me, I'm 60 years old and know what I'm talking about.
Good to see you Dan, and I hope that William is happy and well. Today's story is a harrowing one and despite ignoring so many Red Flags I cannot help but feel sorry for this gentle man. I think that 'Thai Talk with Dan' should be mandatory viewing for all men planning a trip to Thailand. Of course as Men, sometimes nothing can help us avoid disaster. Anyway, thanks as usual Dan and best wishes.
Why these guys don't look into the thai laws before making big financial decisions, You can own a car,if you buy a house you do a lease agreement so that it reverts back to you period of time about 30 yrs
Yes! She Demons proven each instance of encounter since 1977.... Additionally, I was speaking to a filipino granddad the other day of why living in Hawaii i never married in the USA. He wanted to intro me to a granddaughter. I told him of thai women he tilt his head eyes lit up and asked me 'whats the difference'. I replied demonoid life patterns and behaviors as common. He then stared deeply said 'Oh' and how wise I am to have never married either since same same in all ways.
I just want to say one thing i am 56 years old from a Minnesota USA. Dated quite a few women married once . It doesn't matter where the woman is from or where you live or where she lives if you don't get a good feeling from the person and don't get along with them from the get-go then run like hell because it's never going to get better it will be downhill from there on out. If you try to think you can change the person and make things better you're an idiot or like pain😢😮
yes i agree with you same laws here in indo ,,,here we must have a prenup or post nup,,i have a copy in english and indo so can be no mistakei if the sh,t hits the fan ,,,
Dunno but I'm sure they're right. After all, it's in their commercial interest to tell him he can win & then string him along for lots of fees, which is typical lawyer behaviour everywhere. If they are not doing that then they are ethical lawyers & their opinion is worth something.
@@ferney2936 it doesn't make sense. Marital assets are split 50/50 even in Thailand. Maybe the courts refuse to enforce the law in the case of foreigners but that's not what the law itself says. The guy may not be telling the entire truth also for some reaosn.
@@Rodderz1many divorced farang have received their split of assets. Maybe he wasn't really married (like Dan lol). Also sounds like he was working illegally, or he'd own 49% of the company assets. I think he let a lot of things slide and didn't protect himself.
@@Rodderz1 I've heard that for sure. I've also heard of judges siding with decent guys that were abused by bar girl trash because they didn't know any better.
Is it just me or why do I get the feeling that they know u don't understand that language properly while also claim they understand English little bit.I thought about this seriously and a situation like that is very very dangerous.
Good man for spotting that she's a narcissist. There are many strong indicators. She mines him for information. She shares little and mirrors his interests. Quick cohabitation. Many people speak ill of her. No evidence of long term friendships. Blameshifting, denial, projection all evidenced in his story. Avoiding tax, lack of accountability. Narcissism is so much more common than people realise. You might find HG Tudor[s blog of interest.
When money speaks, the truth is silent. You have a good nature and learned a hard lesson. That woman will dig a hole for herself. Eventually. Karma has its ways 😉
all the same story ISSAN woman we need to wake up and leave them alone 9 out of 10 turn bad aint just a coincidence is it now we all have the same outcome ,keep up the great work dan 👍👍👍
Never ever get serious with a divorced women, how can western men not understand this still. Secondly don't enter a business deal where the other person benefits from getting rid of you, this is a universal law regardless of culture.
My compassion for him ended when i heard that he did not read the contracts he was signing. No meditating, getting up early and swimming or cycling will help him
Good luck to you. However, for a woman cannot survive on just having ‘a good heart’ alone 😂. Women want security!!! Not struggle love!! Advice from a woman.
As a man, you have to show leadership qualities with your woman. You can't let your woman make all the decisions in the family because she was not raised to make decisions that lead the family. She only used this guy probably under the direction of her brothers and uncles. And the reason she'd lost respect for him is because he didn't put her under any rules. Or any expectations, just this free love type of crap.
Guys Please NEVER pay anything in her name no no no……only rent rent rent. No matter how much love they show you. It’s all false Once she has drain you of your money, you will be dumped, she will be laughing at you….NEVER NEVER NEVER PUT ANYTHING IN HER NAME
This story is so horrendous that we need spirituality to heal ourselves from these egregious stinky pieces of fleshes under the cover of human being. For the evil woman, life surely will be a living hell even with all the money, cars, and motorbikes she stole from him. She will have to suffer from constant anxiety, bad health, backstabbing from here and there, and all kinds of psychological sh*ts. No doubt about it. That's how the Dharma, the Universe takes care of it. Our concern is him! He should let it go, even the hatred, find the peace in him, and be truly happy again.
The 'Thai smile' is often taken completely wrongly by foreigners! It is totally misunderstood! A smile here has a completely different signal or body language from that in the West! In Thailand it is usually a sign of 'nervousness' and a 'negative evaluation' on meeting a foreigner. It's also an excuse for 'not understanding' what the foreigner wants! Also a sign that means 'never mind I think I know what you want' --but really am not sure! A smile disguises a 'loss of face'. Do not get taken in by the Thai smile! -If you do you'll end up reading these posts on Dan's forum!
A smile in many parts of Asia is like an animal's fear grimace. It represents every emotion under the sun including deceit and reaction to perceived mental weakness. Mirth (unless it is at your expense) and friendliness has nothing to do with it.
I agree with you they hunt out silly westerners but why do we always fall for it? At what point do you just realise this isn't worth it we never win why are we playing this game again
There are way too many reasons to be smart and avoid this kind of drama. There's a popular saying in Mexico "Do not give a woman all your love nor all your money."
I am a Thai woman who does not like lies and deception. And not all Thai women have the same personality. And I'm not like them. And I have never made my boyfriend think about how I will be like some Thai women who scam their boyfriends out of money. But I definitely don't do that. I am a person who is honest with myself and the people I love. I've never had a secret from my boyfriend. I told him everything about my situation. In the future, I don't know if we will still be together until that day, no one knows. But I know that I am doing good and doing everything right every day for the two of us.
Long story here. And indeed the world has terrible people. As for narcissism, I am quite literate in the topic, but .....this man allowed all this chaos. The fact he was off looking for salvation in a monastery, without being fully committed to that (obvious by his actions afterwards, such as fu***** a stranger he didn't even like on a 2 nd meeting) demonstrates this person needs to do a great deal of work to work on his own confidence and self esteem . He absolutely was willing to allow this chaos. The sooner he understands that, the sooner he won't be hoodwinked again. All the blaming and not self reflection doesn't help. The thought processes he made were equal to a teen boy. Message here ... Work on yourself .
It could be a mix of a nice woman with toxic ties to her stupid family members... My Missis has a great job and pulls in Expat money from a USA company working remote. My missis' mother was just in a scooter accident 2 days ago up north. I saw the photos, she is in hospital - my missis luckily happened to be up there at the time to take care of her. The other party immediately demanded money. Missis' mother had no license, no helmet and was driving my wife's scooter. Dumb Dumb Dumb. 18 months ago, her younger brother who works for a major automotive company in chonburi crashed his truck on a weekday at 7 am after a night shift drunk and hit someone else. My missis drained her savings to get him out of trouble. I visited him in hospital - it was legit , but no money from me in both cases. That last one was about 1 million baht. At some point the responsible Thais have to distance themselves from their idiot family members. Easier said than done of course.
If you move to a foreign country and can't speak the language, don't know the laws, your at the mercy of your partner, just like this fellow. They hold all the cards, you hold nothing, so don't put anything in the pot or you will loose it.
this guy ignore every red flag from the first date, you could literally wave a red flag in his face and he would turn away from it🤣
He is a classic NITWIT !!!!
If this is a true story, then he had to be the village idiot not to understand and see what is going on. I truly don't believe all of it but some I can accept.
Fair call...........facts speak for themselves!
Reason 9,999,000 to never deal with Isan bar girls. And yes, she was 100% a bar girl. How do you think she got to Germany in the first place?!?
Exactly !!!!!
Absolutely
You don't know 100% - not every foreigner marries a Thai bargirl.
Only 99.9999%😅@@southerndiscomfort2412
@@southerndiscomfort2412oh I see… you’re one of them aren’t you? How many times have you said, “my girls different” 😂😂😂
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17 years as an Expat I have unfortunately known more than a few Expats who have had similar horror stories. Resort's, multiple condos, house's, businesses and ultimately the relationship vaporized. Often the woman pisses away fortune's from gambling and / or squandering without a care. One individual managed a Trifecta. "You can't make this stuff up!" As a side note this also happens frequently with Thai men who work overseas. They come back and it's all gone. 🙏
interesting it happens to Thai men too. I had wondered if Thai women justified to themselves their rinsing of falangs on the basis that they were rich anyway. Now that idea has been kicked away, all that's left is that they simply don't consider anything beyond their own greed
This is true websites have 000s and 0,000s of exact same stories only difference is the depth of money lost savings gone its not just expats and Thai men also lose everything. Its just local guys have a better chnace to get something back and for expats there is deffo a no Thai refunds sign up and if you have kids then no chance
My sister in laws sister just broke into her mothers house and stole a few baht of gold also
Ownership Books for the PCX scooter which she then pawned
And she tried too break into the family safe to get to the house and land papers the mother had but luckily she phuked that one up and couldn't open it
Thais rip each other off all the time
The mother got her arrested but what happens is anyones guess
"Bui" and this woman probably had a plan together from the beginning. It's not unusual that Thai couples are in it together when it comes to a game of "dupe a farang" or "dupe a group of farangs".
My thought as well.
"Friend", "brother", "cousin"....the label may differ from case to case, but he's always the cuckoo in the nest....
@@nostringsguy185 definitely. A girl in patong invited her friend to our table. I just politely made an excused and called it a night. Beers/drink was already paid. A nice bartender in another bar told me to never fall for that trick.
Very true. Heart this before. Thai love Thai.
Before getting involved with anything beyond boom boom in SEA,
ask yourself this:
Am I ok with going back to the workforce and starting over again financially???
He obviously didn't meditate on that much 😅
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South east asians mostly the same from toxic families
I will never fathom why foreigners keep thinking these women can be good people after all the horror stories! Why?@@TheSavageNorseman
One thing I learned the hard way. In the beginning, if the aerobics are not good, don't count on it getting better. I had a Japanese wife who had issues and acted like it was a chore. She scheduled all aerobics, and we never had any spontaneous aerobics. She would never want to discuss the issue. This was the reason it all fell apart. I owned a bar in Daytona Beach, Florida. I found aerobics elsewhere with ease. It's ashamed because I truly cared. But I divorced her against her will.
His Buddhist name is "sickbuffalo"?! Surely the writing was on the wall 😂
Did he not learn discernment in the monastery ?? (There exist multiple kinds of discernment )
The trouble with having too much positive Karma is that it can destroy you completely in the modern society, You need to have a balanced mindset and to understand how important the word NO means.
It's actually just a really stupid and lonely person who pretends he is not stupid by saying he is spiritual.
There is no such thing as karma. You make your own situation by the choices you make.
@@spartanx169x + In Hindu and Buddhist philosophies, karma refers to the “cause and effect” process by which good actions breed more good actions, and bad actions bring about more bad actions. Having mainly good feeling and saying Yes to everting, can cause you to lose all of your hard-earned possessions/money and your life in today society. You have to have a balanced life. NO is an important word, it could save your life.
@@_Tony.Montana Nonsense, as the comment above clearly stated.
@Coxy_Wrecked + he is the spartan warrior. Perhaps he has learned something new never heard before?
Thanks to the subscriber who shared this story and don't listen to all the cynical keyboard warriors who think they 'know it all about Thai women'. It is actually very difficult to pick up on a personality-disordered woman, especially if they are from a different culture and especially when you are consumed in the madness called 'love'. Buddhist compassion and loving-kindness meditation can easily be confused with aspects of 'love', and can leave one overly trusting and somewhat naive.
The Buddha was correct in his description of the 'house-holder life' - if you can handle living alone, and many men can't, but if you can... then it makes life a lot easier.
Really feel for this guy. I think he was too forgiving of the red flags. Some of these girls can't change or improve themselves with self-reflection, because in their own mind they are already perfect. How wrong they are...
Guys need to wake the hell up! Most Thai women can’t be trusted, don’t dismiss any red flags and when you see one, RUN! Don’t ever buy a house, keep your options and flexibility! For the love of god, Rent, Rent Rent!!!
Crusty old expats have built all the houses in issan.they boost about it on there strict facebook page.its only a matter of time .one good argument it's all gone.
I've lived in Germany. People are reserved, honest, polite and very logical. So there you have it and why I feel there is a problem to start with. At least a Brit is more aggressive and chaotic, so can probably defend themselves more effectively. But that is a gross generalisation.
Germans would suffer mightily with Thai's I would think. They're already hard enough to deal with for any Europeans.
Well this Brit is just like you described Germans to be & I got royally rinsed too.
I love that and I think that's a very good description of us Brits. Only yesterday yet another Indian tried to start an argument with me in Pattaya (just visiting and I just picked up a menu to read and an Indian started ordering me to put the menu down, he was quickly met with aggression) and he soon backed down as we can go from calm to raging in a split second. My Thai g/f is used to it now and it's taken here a while to get used to English people but I always explain it like this. Generally, we are similar to Thai, trouble avoidant, but if you start a problem with a Brit, we can become aggressive in an instant and we don't back down easily. Maybe we appear chaotic to others but in our minds we are very normal. I did apologise in my best Thai to all the staff in the restaurant but they all agreed with me.
@@ferney2936 Sorry to hear that
@@Paul_in_Thailand The problem with people from crowded countries like India or China is that some of them have no idea of a private space. They simply do not understand that when I am standing and looking at a menu they need to give me some time to do it in private and not try to peak over my shoulder breathing in my ear. I would do the same courtesy to them, just would wait a little until they are done with the menu and it is my turn to check the selection of dishes.
I am not a racist and I know a plenty of guys from India and Asia with proper manners who fully understand the importance of privacy and the private space.
I will never forget Toby (England) from Hua Hin, back around 2001. He had a bar in Soi Bintabath on the first corner. Married to a thai woman. I liked the bar, took a girl and travelled around southern Thailand with her. No problem. Next year I came back and his bar was gone. I talked to a ladyboy that told me that he was killed by his wifes family. And not only killed, but chopped into little pieces, burried in the ground around the house that he had bought and paid for! The police found out and his widow (wife!) got 25 years in jail, and more than a few cousins was sentenced as well. Why they did it? They felt entiteled. He was not helping out the extended family enough, they thought. Hard to believe how they truly think, these thais.... Truly amazing! I can never forget Toby. Last time I saw him, he was a jolly fellow, late 30'ies, super friendly. Everybody liked him. Except his wife's lazy cousins.
Not surprising, sadly. I'm not familiar with this case, but I have read about others in Thailand (and the Philippines, etc.).
Edit: I did some googling, and I _do_ remember this case. I didn't remember the name (Toby Charnaud) , but yeah this was a horrible one. Poor guy. I wouldn't do to my worst enemy what his wife had done to him.
It is not just Thais who do this shit - it is entitled people who believe the world owes them something and are too lazy to get of their butts and make their own money the old fashioned way through blood, sweet and tears. But they are happy to get off their lazy butts to rob, cheat and kill.
Damn!!!
@@mynameisstilljafo4063 Hello, friend. Thank you so much for writing Toby's full name. I just googled him. I will read all about it.
I have heard so many stories while in Thailand, and after some years you just shrug it off. But this one stands out in my book.
Thank you again. Cheers!
Man, what a tragic story. RIP your friend. Horrible fate. I'm a Sri Lankan-Aussie and I would never go near a Thai girl . It's just too dangerous. All the best !
A quick call to her ex husband might have saved him. No wait, nothing would have saved him.
Rule#1... Smiling faces sometimes they don't tell the truth
Rule#2... Trust no one.
Rule#3... They can all turn against you.
Rule#4... The farangi never wins.
When you're a stranger in a strange land follow these rules and you'll be OK. Otherwise you're just spinning the big wheel again and again.
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Regarding rule 4 it'd be better to get ripped off by a professional lawyer on paper. Never let your wife do business and finances and purchases for you
You are 40 years old and not 70. You have two healthy legs. There is no excuse for you not checking your financial situation by set up. None. I got company, car, Jetskis, boat, condo in Thailand - in my name - no Thai chick can cheat you if you are in the driving seat. And you must be. Always. Meaning you have YOUR lawyer doing everything for you. Always. A Thai woman that do not respect you is only because she is in control. A Thai woman that tells you she do not love you is because she has sucked up everything that there is to be had from you. Thats why you must ensure that she can never reach this point; - Company in your name - she an employee with a fixed salary per month. Car(s) in your name she can drive one of them. Scooters etc same. Condo in your name. Land in your company. Unfortunately you did it all wrong. To anybody out there that wants to hook up with a Thai woman - remember - in Thailand everything can be in your name! - Do not believe her rubbish. Do not build on her land. Do not pay for anything in her name. NEVER.
I thought a foreigner cd’nt own land in Thailand. Have been told this twice by men married to Thai wives. One is a lawyer in UK
@@stephaniesamra7960what would a UK lawyer know about Thai law? Nothing to stop you taking out a lease on the land.
@@athitaya6898 There are several resources on line that state foreigners can not own land. Condos? yes. But thats it. The information is easily found online. Fun fact, its the same in the Philippines.
The company can own the land
@@spartanx169x I didn’t mention owning the land, I said leasing the land. As mentioned by another poster, the company can own the land. I’ve never understood the farang obsession of putting land in someone else’s name with no protection under the law.
Never let a woman take over your finances. You give what you can afford and keep the rest either out of Thailand or in your control. No way would any woman get hold of my finances wife or not.
Great show Dan! Hope William is doing good. You take care and as alway's stay cool 😎 kind and generous.
sounds familiar to me! when you first encounter the 180 degree shift in her personality that is the time to fly! believe me there is nothing you can salvage run!
The forrest gump addition is gold! 😂
😅😅😅😅
forrest gimp was also a simp
I wouldn't say she wasbeing narcissist. She was just acting naturally Thai IMO.
Yes, I agree. he doesn't need to read up on narcissism to understand her mindset, it's sufficient to know that she's Thai.
Been with a Narcissist before, I can understand the confusion and pain he is going through. It felt like the rug had been lifted under my feet.
Love, feelings, sentiments, heart-strings, loyalty, faithfulness hardly exist in SEA.
Forget romantic sh$t like Romeo and Juliette.
Sadly, it's ALL about what you can do or represent for them.
It's mostly GAMES!!!
Let's not forget that "Romeo and Juliette" is just a fantasy, a fairy tale.
The reality of that time was as cynical and pragmatic as it is now in SE Asia: arranged marriages and money (and power for aristocracy).
In reality both Romeo and Juliette would be told by their parents whom they were about to marry and they would not dare oppose their father's will 😒
@@dmitriikurilov1569
Don't fall in love was my point basically.
More insanity,pulls up a chair for latest insanity:)
At this point im jusf advocating for NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THAI WOMAN. Three day rule applies in any situation. Im so done with this bs
Come to the Philippines. Girls I am dating treat me like a king, and are ashamed to ask me for 100 pesos. Decent, submissive, marriageable women are easy to find
Come to Philippines. Completely different experience here
Try calling People faragns or what ever they call them In our countries , You would be shot down as a racist , imagine saying Forieners Can"t own Land , and were the Racists
LOL
@wanderingdoc5075 I hope so. Planning on going soon...
@@BigBrother04 i've been in Cebu now for 3 months now and have met many girls with just zero or one lifetime sexual partners.
Pretty much all of the girls i'm dating now are ashamed to even ask me for 100 pesos and prefer to pay their own way even if it means spending all their money.
If you lead the relationship with your mind and body and don't spend money on them the woman can still fall in love with you.
Narcissists are everywhere and they are extremely dangerous. I am divorced and loving it. I save and invest 90% of my after tax income and have no intentions of sharing it with anyone. My advice to all men out there is to protect yourself because nobody else is going to protect you, and enjoy the rewards of your hard labour by not sharing with leeches.
This is exactly what happened to me with my American wife, bad sx, no sx, she ran around with another guy for 8 years until they finally broke up, I never considered it was from the very bad aerobics LOL. We didn't separate, I stayed with her and eventually had a major mental and physical breakdown. Still trying to get over it every day, but at least I didn't give all my money to the lawyers. I still can't believe we are still together after 30 years and I still struggle with it every day. My heart is hardened like a bag of broken pulverized glass. 😢 Only death will set me free.
It is hard to believe that anyone is that gullible, to let that go on for that long. I just can't imagine.
@@Rodderz1true. And out of those millions, how many are genuinely doing sufficient research? I doubt many.
Hilarious! Guys, quit being afraid to be alone. Also, love doesn't really exist like we want it to.
This is painful.
Guys, in Thailand you as a foreigner can own everything in your name. Cars, bikes, houses, condos, boats, planes etc...
With land you have to own a Thai company in order to register the land. Let the company own the land, lease it 30 years USUFRUCT in your name. You as a private person can lend money to the company and get a mortgage stamped in the charnod at Landoffice.
True!
Don’t understand these men either. Do they believe everything their lady’s tell them.?
just the name BOEY pronounced in english :))) Was worth watchin
All the warning signs were there. If she's not good in the bedroom it means she doesn't like him. Total trust in a woman with his money, especially in a foreign country is just plain foolishness. He needs to go back to the monastery and stay there for the rest of his life, where he is safe from Thai women 😅
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This sounds like a classic malignant narcissist. Love bombing is the standard strategy at the start for manipulating their victims. Alas, people believe what they want to believe, no matter the evidence before their eyes. His willful naivety and childlike credulity did him in. A sad story...
You are an incredible and horrific story. This is… hard to believe somebody can be so heartless.. but yes, I believe it because it happened to me too.. oh it was with a Japanese woman not Thai.. I’d love to tell the story, but it’s too convoluted, and absolutely too painful to think through.. I suffered the pain and moved on, but I’m still stuck with a lot of anger.. that will hopefully dissipate..
Tell your story William. As painful as it may feel, it will most likely begin the process of recovery. By sharing in this way, your anger is expressed, and thus, you may integrate the episode as experience and move on the wiser for it.
A bit of due diligence would have avoided his losses…
Unfortunately, marriage is totally dysfunctional both in the West and in Thailand.
Marriage simply means that you take a full responsibility for a woman's actions but have no control over the situation 🤷
It is as stupid as taking responsibility for the consequences of the reckless driving of a taxi driver that takes you to an airport.
He drives as he wishes and you get responsible for the damage 😱
It is hard for many men but we have no other option but to stay single and do P4P 😔
my just new Thai gf wants a new car and to pay off her house, normal day in the Smiles ? lol
Just buy it! What can go wrong? 😂😂😂
Just say the magic word. No😂
She’s not your "GF” it’s just your turn
Do it and Dan will be reading your story on his channel a few month / years later
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Time to leave?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Live and learn, walk away and NEVER look back. She and Bui will lose it all and have sweet fuck all just like they started out with in a very short time. Lesson learned, NEVER put more into a situation than you are prepared to "walk away"from. Never EVER EVER EVER and make sure you only put enough as you need as you go into a Thai bank account. She can't touch what you have at home, especially if she doesn't know about it and there should ALWAYS be an account that ONLY you know about. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS!
Life really isn't that difficult.
Bui will get a lot of that money and dump her. Thai men are smart.
I call my wife, captain evil 😂😂
There are enough horror stories out there on the internet that this guy should have known better. Like someone else wrote below, he ignored every red flag and proceeded anyway...
Same old story, what they think about the lady, first off never seems to come to fruition.
We live we learn, thank god my experiences haven't cost me the world, the most i,ve spent on 1 lady is probably 4,000 dollars. But that was over a year and half of living on and off with her while working in Vietnam.
Nothing major, Always remember never go big with bikes cars or houses and businesses.
Just little shit, it,s better that way.
Less headaches.
Cheers 30 years has taught me be very cautious.
I was shown the right way 1st and 2nd time going to Thailand, very lucky for that.😊
Same old story=ai
@davidward1721 yeah it's a bit like that mate, just hope some blokes listen.
Bring on part 2😁
Number one rule , no matter how much money you have never go all in. 👍
Break that $IMP BANK 😂
The woman I met when travelling in suphanburi 8 years ago is the sweetest person I could ever have met,she was as poor as a door mouse but humble what she has now is far removed from what she had then in terms of a home and security for her life and she is still the same way now as she was then taoist humble hahaha i call her cheap charlie because she is so used to having nothing she still shops the same way,her two kids are brought up with respect nothing gets wasted and she says she's happy because she has a good man nothing about material stuff.
What a horror story, the worst so far on your channel Dan, haha. I feel so sorry for the guy, he seems to be very decent. Looks like being honest and trustworthy is a curse sometimes. He walked straight into a little piece of hell on earth and met this devil. Lessons to be learned, your channel does a good job
He’s a fool who gave it all away willingly. Never putting assets in someone else’s name like that should be obvious.
That would really be helpful putting assets on others names lol. 🤣 Like who for example?
That is love. U see a rose elefant.. ❤
Thanks for sharing. ♥️♥️♥️🦁🎧
Same ole story why don’t these guys listen too you. You just can’t trust these women.
When things are happening that seem too good to be true--they normally are not true!
When the aerobics isn't great at the first nite, why have a second one? That makes no sense. Belive me, I'm 60 years old and know what I'm talking about.
Good to see you Dan, and I hope that William is happy and well. Today's story is a harrowing one and despite ignoring so many Red Flags I cannot help but feel sorry for this gentle man. I think that 'Thai Talk with Dan' should be mandatory viewing for all men planning a trip to Thailand. Of course as Men, sometimes nothing can help us avoid disaster. Anyway, thanks as usual Dan and best wishes.
Why these guys don't look into the thai laws before making big financial decisions,
You can own a car,if you buy a house you do a lease agreement so that it reverts back to you period of time about 30 yrs
Yes!
She Demons proven each instance of encounter since 1977....
Additionally, I was speaking to a filipino granddad the other day of why living in Hawaii i never married in the USA. He wanted to intro me to a granddaughter. I told him of thai women he tilt his head eyes lit up and asked me 'whats the difference'. I replied demonoid life patterns and behaviors as common. He then stared deeply said 'Oh' and how wise I am to have never married either since same same in all ways.
I just want to say one thing i am 56 years old from a Minnesota USA. Dated quite a few women married once . It doesn't matter where the woman is from or where you live or where she lives if you don't get a good feeling from the person and don't get along with them from the get-go then run like hell because it's never going to get better it will be downhill from there on out. If you try to think you can change the person and make things better you're an idiot or like pain😢😮
Why did lawyers advise him against fighting her? It's all his money right and he's entitled to 50% of the marital assets under Thai law.
yes i agree with you same laws here in indo ,,,here we must have a prenup or post nup,,i have a copy in english and indo so can be no mistakei if the sh,t hits the fan ,,,
Dunno but I'm sure they're right. After all, it's in their commercial interest to tell him he can win & then string him along for lots of fees, which is typical lawyer behaviour everywhere. If they are not doing that then they are ethical lawyers & their opinion is worth something.
@@ferney2936 it doesn't make sense. Marital assets are split 50/50 even in Thailand. Maybe the courts refuse to enforce the law in the case of foreigners but that's not what the law itself says. The guy may not be telling the entire truth also for some reaosn.
@@Rodderz1many divorced farang have received their split of assets. Maybe he wasn't really married (like Dan lol). Also sounds like he was working illegally, or he'd own 49% of the company assets. I think he let a lot of things slide and didn't protect himself.
@@Rodderz1 I've heard that for sure. I've also heard of judges siding with decent guys that were abused by bar girl trash because they didn't know any better.
Daniel, my son, let’s have some more stories of English men going over to Thailand & painting the fence on the other side, as these are funny🇬🇧👍
Haha I could tell you a few myself.
Is it just me or why do I get the feeling that they know u don't understand that language properly while also claim they understand English little bit.I thought about this seriously and a situation like that is very very dangerous.
Good man for spotting that she's a narcissist. There are many strong indicators. She mines him for information. She shares little and mirrors his interests. Quick cohabitation. Many people speak ill of her. No evidence of long term friendships. Blameshifting, denial, projection all evidenced in his story. Avoiding tax, lack of accountability. Narcissism is so much more common than people realise. You might find HG Tudor[s blog of interest.
When money speaks, the truth is silent. You have a good nature and learned a hard lesson. That woman will dig a hole for herself. Eventually. Karma has its ways 😉
all the same story ISSAN woman we need to wake up and leave them alone 9 out of 10 turn bad aint just a coincidence is it now we all have the same outcome ,keep up the great work dan 👍👍👍
Never ever get serious with a divorced women, how can western men not understand this still. Secondly don't enter a business deal where the other person benefits from getting rid of you, this is a universal law regardless of culture.
A nice brand pullover as a gift, the writings on the wool & she pulled the wool over his eyes.....
My compassion for him ended when i heard that he did not read the contracts he was signing. No meditating, getting up early and swimming or cycling will help him
I listen to your story’s before I go to bed I have a laugh most nights it relaxes me lol 😅
Good luck to you. However, for a woman cannot survive on just having ‘a good heart’ alone 😂. Women want security!!! Not struggle love!! Advice from a woman.
A nice Thaitanic story again.
Another great Public Service. PSA's by Dan!
The missus sounds like a real vampire, but our German friend sounds like a total wally.
Nice thumbnail.
Spooky stories with Dan. 😮
Good Video Dan 😊.
Keep the video's comin.
Stay Safe 💕 💞 🙏 🙏
How much of a fool can you be?
I agree my friend, crazy
Love your shows Dan
Oh how wonderful it would be if we get to hear what that Thai wife has to say about herself.
That's easy... she would say that it was none of her fault but all his, and he left her not she left him.
@@southerndiscomfort2412 don't think so
Hope he grows alot from this , and she gets whats she deserves
As a man, you have to show leadership qualities with your woman. You can't let your woman make all the decisions in the family because she was not raised to make decisions that lead the family. She only used this guy probably under the direction of her brothers and uncles. And the reason she'd lost respect for him is because he didn't put her under any rules. Or any expectations, just this free love type of crap.
@@mudhuthanudimmudkahagadulh4657 you're hilarious!
You think these women are going to do ANYTHING you say? Bahahaha
They won't even hear you
Great video Dan.
Thanks Dan, another great reminder to be super careful in the land of fantasy and disillusion. Cheers!
Guys Please NEVER pay anything in her name no no no……only rent rent rent. No matter how much love they show you. It’s all false
Once she has drain you of your money, you will be dumped,
she will be laughing at you….NEVER NEVER NEVER PUT ANYTHING IN HER NAME
This story is so horrendous that we need spirituality to heal ourselves from these egregious stinky pieces of fleshes under the cover of human being. For the evil woman, life surely will be a living hell even with all the money, cars, and motorbikes she stole from him. She will have to suffer from constant anxiety, bad health, backstabbing from here and there, and all kinds of psychological sh*ts. No doubt about it. That's how the Dharma, the Universe takes care of it. Our concern is him! He should let it go, even the hatred, find the peace in him, and be truly happy again.
He got played like a simp. Should have stayed with the monks.
Whatever she is there is still no excuse. So stop excusing her behaviour, it's beyond sad.
That closing thought on the letter shows he hasn't learnt anything at all. A fool of the highest caliber!
The 'Thai smile' is often taken completely wrongly by foreigners! It is totally misunderstood! A smile here has a completely different signal or body language from that in the West! In Thailand it is usually a sign of 'nervousness' and a 'negative evaluation' on meeting a foreigner. It's also an excuse for 'not understanding' what the foreigner wants! Also a sign that means 'never mind I think I know what you want' --but really am not sure! A smile disguises a 'loss of face'. Do not get taken in by the Thai smile! -If you do you'll end up reading these posts on Dan's forum!
A smile in many parts of Asia is like an animal's fear grimace. It represents every emotion under the sun including deceit and reaction to perceived mental weakness. Mirth (unless it is at your expense) and friendliness has nothing to do with it.
Yellow Bastards
LOFS = Land of Fake Smiles.
Well penned!@@tubewatcher3100
Yes , I know one Thai narcissist like that… i have meet her in 2013. But this story will require 4 episodes😅
I can't feel sorry for guys like that who do business with Thai women
These Thai girls are like hunters.
I agree with you they hunt out silly westerners but why do we always fall for it? At what point do you just realise this isn't worth it we never win why are we playing this game again
@@RickTheBoss98 They exploit a vulnerability, a need, a desire, a fantasy, that is well ingrained in men.
Simp
There are way too many reasons to be smart and avoid this kind of drama. There's a popular saying in Mexico "Do not give a woman all your love nor all your money."
Surely no one could be that stupid? 😳
Me being as violent as I am, she and her family would have found out......
I am a Thai woman who does not like lies and deception. And not all Thai women have the same personality. And I'm not like them. And I have never made my boyfriend think about how I will be like some Thai women who scam their boyfriends out of money. But I definitely don't do that. I am a person who is honest with myself and the people I love. I've never had a secret from my boyfriend. I told him everything about my situation. In the future, I don't know if we will still be together until that day, no one knows. But I know that I am doing good and doing everything right every day for the two of us.
Long story here. And indeed the world has terrible people. As for narcissism, I am quite literate in the topic, but .....this man allowed all this chaos. The fact he was off looking for salvation in a monastery, without being fully committed to that (obvious by his actions afterwards, such as fu***** a stranger he didn't even like on a 2 nd meeting) demonstrates this person needs to do a great deal of work to work on his own confidence and self esteem . He absolutely was willing to allow this chaos. The sooner he understands that, the sooner he won't be hoodwinked again. All the blaming and not self reflection doesn't help. The thought processes he made were equal to a teen boy. Message here ... Work on yourself .
Sorry guy was an idiot from the start
It could be a mix of a nice woman with toxic ties to her stupid family members... My Missis has a great job and pulls in Expat money from a USA company working remote. My missis' mother was just in a scooter accident 2 days ago up north. I saw the photos, she is in hospital - my missis luckily happened to be up there at the time to take care of her. The other party immediately demanded money. Missis' mother had no license, no helmet and was driving my wife's scooter. Dumb Dumb Dumb. 18 months ago, her younger brother who works for a major automotive company in chonburi crashed his truck on a weekday at 7 am after a night shift drunk and hit someone else. My missis drained her savings to get him out of trouble. I visited him in hospital - it was legit , but no money from me in both cases. That last one was about 1 million baht.
At some point the responsible Thais have to distance themselves from their idiot family members. Easier said than done of course.
he is off his head
You almost have to go into Thailand with “Steel Will” not to get caught by the spell! 😂
She probably had the boyfriend(s)long before you ever met her 😢😮
Dan what is the conversion of 100 Rai ?
Cheers to thai girls
If you move to a foreign country and can't speak the language, don't know the laws, your at the mercy of your partner, just like this fellow. They hold all the cards, you hold nothing, so don't put anything in the pot or you will loose it.