@@JoshuaBardwell, I'm confused. I was under the impression that the walksnail cameras are native 4x3 sensors, are they not? If they are, wouldn't you be better off using the system in 4x3 to make the viewing experience better?
I don't think it's true that all WS cameras are native 4:3. The V2 camera is native 4:3 but the Pro camera is 16:9. So if you want the low-light sensitivity of the Pro camera you can't also have the 4:3 aspect ratio. You can see here: ruclips.net/video/IFDkwY1pIjE/видео.html&si=7b8yoAHCkYGxFqVe But either way, the OSD elements in the corner of the goggle screen are blurry unless you reduce the FOV to pull them inwards.
I don’t think that feature works. Doesn’t work on my goggles at least. My camera is 16:9 pro camera. Edit: Oscar lang also says the zoom out feature doesn’t work. Just like the v1 goggles.
Something reviewers are missing is that the old goggles for $370 don't have any antennas included, but the Goggles X do. That is easily $60 or more you will have to immediately spend. So if you consider that the prices are almost the same.
went to about 5 websites to confirm. Includes 1x Walksnail Avatar Digital HD FPV Goggles 1x Lens Cleaning Cloth 4x Red Bird Antennas 1x XT60 Power Cable 1x Goggle Strap 1x Carry Case@@Bill_Bo
Left DJI for walksnail and couldn't be happier. The entire walksnail Eco system is just better. Sure the 03 is an amazing piece of technology. But walksnail is a better experience and compared to the DJI v2/vista it's better. Add in 1s vtx and all the options out there.. 03/G2 beats it in image and range, but KY V1 walksnail gets the same range as thr dji v2/vista, but better quality in the glass, better latency (more stable) and more options for VTXs. Yeah I don't miss DJI at all. Im staying with my V1s for the next year. Eventually will get the X. But im in no rush. Love the V1s
@@xORLOCKxI’m exactly like you 100% agreed 👍 I had DJI and walksnail for like 6 months , decided to get rid totally on dji after that even for long range
How good could Walksnail get if more people went with them instead of DJI. I refuse to send any of my money to a company that shows little interest in providing what the FPV community wants.
You're going to see a lot of cool stuff comingfrom walksnail in the future.... they are working on 20+ km range vtx, as well as new system all together and they will sell an upgraded vxr board for the goggles X to upgrade the goggles
Dji has a new set of goggles that has new features that we didn't ask for but really need and never thought about needing that's the surprise things about dji that no one else thinks of u til we really need it later when RID comes in full swing.
So VR goggles get to take advantage of a decent GPU to modify the image on the LCD to account for distortion caused by the optics. They sort of "pre distort" the image in such a way that when it goes through the lens it comes out looking normalish. This allows them to use much cheaper optics, larger and cheaper LCDs and give you a bigger field of view. This probably could be implemented for FPV goggles but it would increase the manufacturing cost to add the processing power, increase the power consumption and add some latency.
WS got a lot hooked through the vrx. Ppl love their micro friendly vtx. I Had a dominator 3 and I needed diopters so they got me hooked and I want the goggles. The x pushed me to upgrade from the vrx. Can’t wait to get them.
i mean build ur own or build budget drones, id rather cheap out on the drone than on goggles and controllers because they last you longer than drones. also the price of these goggles are on the cheaper side of digital fpv already, and all the features it comes with, the future proofing just makes it so good. and even walksnail usually has lower and key point super consistent latency compared to dji, and its also not hard locked on the range
All that Walk Snail has to do to beat DJI is make a google with a great comfortable fit where you can see the screen perfectly. Then get the 4k going. Oh and no stupid activations or fly apps or any of that stupid stuff. Then DJI RIP!!!! as far as FPV freestyle is concerned! They will always have their high tech super expensive plastic drones though. That fall apart if you look at them the wrong way.
so, if you already have all possible 100500 variants of all the goggles and shmoggles like JB does then maybe you may want to wait until WS release their "over 20km" upgrade and then decide if you should get one for your collection. I bought WS v1 first because they went cheap and I didn't know why. 3 days later the X goggles were released, that's why. So I bought X immediately and sent back WS v1 back without unpacking them. This is my FIRST digital goggles and I don't care about analog any longer - I simply refuse to fly analog anymore. And yes HDMI input means that I can use OpenHD! Latency? I do long range with fixed wings and I don't care about latency! Larger FOV? Yes I like even larger FOV like DJI goggles v2 has. Don't forget that WS will not put any efforts to support fat shark goggles no more because they have X now.
But Bardwell, you haven't mentioned, how to take off the LED slit eyes and put on the fitting patch antenna (which I bought and have no idea, how to put them on...)
The Recon HD are actually very good. Using goggles V1 and X are like looking through little keyholes. I love my Scouts which is the same frame as the Recon HD.
Nice review 🤌 well done and well edited :) these are the videos that even as a non newbie i still watch, got very good structure going on atm on your channel mate 😊
I totally can't understand: why can't just walksnail copy dji system and then just keep it getting better? like we just see it with every Chinese knockout .
I'm geting these. My old analog FS Dom V2 unit still works like a champ. That said there is much to still like about analog. Range, price, very lightweight on the craft and the abitlity to setup a seperate inexpensive ground station for the same signal. Trying to shoehorn too much on one set creates complexity which degrades reliabiltiy. I'm just goning to lug two sets of googles.
Love my analogue still, best thing is everyone is going to digital and can now get analogue BNF's for hundreds less. Personally still waiting for the next wave of digital goggles, till then analogue FTW
I believe the real advantage DJI has over all this companies, is that they make a drone you can start with, that includes a radio and goggles, so when you move to manual FPV drones, and start building, you are forced to keep buying their products since it’s what you already have…. Whoever does the marketing for DJI is Genius….
Exactly, that's the boat I'm in, I just ordered the goggles 2 amd motion controller for my dji mini 3, love the drone, but I got the goggles and controller to get into fpv, o ly to realize they don't represent what fpv will feel like at all, and if I wamt to now do my own quad build, I would have to spend hundreds more for the components that are dji friendly..
@@bradical2723if you have the goggles 2, you don’t need to buy expensive stuff, you can build your future quads with caddx vista or RunCam Wasp which are both farely cheap compared to the O3 air unit, and you can use both with the dji rc 2, making it way cheaper than having to buy a separate receiver for each build.
Great review! Do you know if there are Analog modules with a built in DVR or some 'in between DVR' device that one can buy? And what about recording the HDMI out if using analog, can it be recorded to an android phone or sth via HDMI->USB-C ?
I see what might the problem with your analogue video in Goggles X. I had the similar issue with my DJI goggles V2 and recently made post in troubleshooting-forum "DJI goggles V2 awful analogue video". Try to change analogue fatshark module
That FOV thing is my main problem with the Fatshark HD2's I'm currently using, but that was still a huuuge upgrade over the box goggles when I bought them second hand half a year ago lmao
Walksnail is bidirectional communication. What is the control data bit rate and power (tx from the goggles to vtx)? This is interesting because there is a range in which the channel transmitted from the goggles (control data) will limit the range regardless of the connection of directional antennas on the receiving channels in the goggles.
I am still flying analogue, mind you lately I have been flying mainly micro builds for the last few years however the units are getting smaller I am ready to finally make the jump but I am stuck between choosing the HDZero goggles and these new Walksnail goggles
15:57 oh god... That comparisment analog vs digital is crazy... I think I should already switch from analog. :D Year 2024 will be the year when I switch! In few months I'll find myself a new better paid job and then it's set! :D
@@quadbrake how big is diference in range/penetration when comparing analog to digital? From your comment it seems to be very big. And you mentioned DJI system, but how about the other systems (WS and HDZ) - do they have much better range and penetration too when compared let's says to 1W analog?
I really can't answer that in all honesty. I think I did not have the Rush Tank vtx programed right in BF. I was only getting like 100 feet of range. I know they do way better than that. I do know the 03 gives you really good range and penetration as well as an excellent video feed. The clarity between 03 and the rush tank was no comparison. I do not think I can ever use anything other than digital now. I would like to get away from DJI if I could, only because of the software nonsense. Also the googles never fit me right. Thats why there are so many aftermarket foams made for the DJI googles. I have not tried WS or Zero yet, but I would like too. For me I think it would be WS. I believe you get more range with WS over Zero. @@TomicaCZ
4:10 “A lot of people aren’t flying analog anyway” According to Albert Kim’s poll about 1 in 3 does, and according to Painless360 poll almost 50% does. So yeah, a majority does fly digital, bust al lot of people still fly analog according to these polls. But when you watch the RUclips channels, it’s digital all over the place… Perhaps because that is the area where are a lot of innovations? But as an analog pilot a lot of video’s aren’t relevant to me anymore 😕
Speedy bee has a new receiver, I think there's a new Caddx or Foxeer camera - and I still fly both. My analog fully coated is waterproof and indestructable! The most reliable I have. And I also saw that video of Painless, where he figured that he should still do content for his analog viewers.@@ChrisCroft77
No way I’m betting against DJI. Still to this day never seen a set of walksnail goggles or module in the wild despite interacting with 100+ pilots a year. Only ever seen them on RUclips
These are so nice , hoping HDzero catches up soon. I would like to see you try out the Rokid Max glasses. Same micro oled screen and no VRX, but I've been considering these with a standalone VRX.
Pretty disappointing that you are not being more transparent with your issues with these goggles. I saw your live stream rant about them, while a rant in the review could look hostile, I think you should have addressed that issue, or made it known, even if you didn't focus on it for long, I feel like an impartial review would have done that. But instead you removed it from the live stream, re-uploaded it, and left it completely out of the review. What gives?
Good review, was a little worried my order from Rotor Riot for the new goggles was going to be regretted but since I only use analog once in a while, these will do just fine and I won't have to lug three sets of different pairs of goggles around any longer. Up side is these also look a bit more compact like the new DJI goggles so even more room in the bag. Weird that whole static issue though. 🤔
Rotoriot shipped mine yesterday(well shipped as in printed the label) I am pissed though since I paid for UPS but the sent the USPS. USPS just sent a package I needed from Columbus ohio 20 min from my house to Wichita kansas "by accident" so now it will be 3 days late. I am happy they shipped them but I paid for UPS with insurance USPS only has insurance up to 100$ Since the label was printed but it has not actually shipped they will fix it and send UPS. If they do or had I would get them saturday instead of USPS Tuesday. Not sure why I can get a package from California in 2 days but 5 days from florida......
@@christopherconkright1317 give Rotor Riot a call on Monday & let them know, nicely, what has happened. They are probably so swamped with their move and getting all these goggles in that they just made a human error. 😉 They are very good about responding and problem solving with you, provided you are respectful, I assure you. 😉❤️
@@KimFusedFPV I just hope if they get lost in the mail they will replace them. The shipping method i chose had 500$ insurance if lost the shipping they chose has no lost insurance. Plus i am in the 2 day shipping for UPS and the 5-7 day shipping(when not backed up like now)usps but i am always respectful. I emailed them thursday before they mailed them but have not heard back. I tried calling but answering machine the last 4 times.
Joshua it's been a little while since your video comparing the range and penetration of various video systems. Do you find the new walksnail hardware performs well but slightly worse than DJI?
When talking about the HDMI passthrough with your phone: it might be some sort of HDCP compliance mechanism built into the chip that controls the HDMI port.
That's possible I guess. The phone worked correctly when it was doing Samsung Dex but when it switched to screen mirroring, the passthrough didn't work.
thank you for this. it seems that since the Walksnail receiver along with the HDZero goggles supports the high refresh, along with the high refresh of HDZero, as well as their fancy analog wizardry, that the HDZero goggles seem to continue to be the best choice for someone who wants the best experience from as many worlds as they can.
@yarbsfpv thank you for THIS comment lol. i'm about to buy a large HDZero lot based on JB's video on those goggles, and i just saw this video and it's more recent I was worried
@@gr3yh47 do note : for the sake of the most information, this dude Mayday.Aerial has a vid up from a few days ago where he does talk about a few issues specifically using the walksnail receiver with the hdz gogs.
Thank you for the review. Right now I'm using the Walksnail VRX with my beloved HDO2 goggles. The WS V1 goggles didn't have any real advantage to my setup (except the 1080p) and the missing analog in was a real dealbreaker because i have some long range analog wings. I'm glad I saved my money when the V1 came out so now I can buy the X.
As a walksnail goggle I like it a lot, but the analog input is still not to be recommended. Also I had to upgrade the heatsink because I had the Problem with the right screen turning of because of overheating. Yet I think it is worth the money.
@@M4trix42 i see. Well, I'm in a spot where I can't get dji goggles 2 to fit my face, so I'm thinking of getting the vrx and trying walksnail with my hdo2s first. X is supposedly similar in shape to the G2.
@@M4trix42 yeah. I know. I'm more worried about latency increase. For that reason, I'm also considering HDZero goggles or Skyzone SkyO4X pro, as those could do 720p@100Hz or 1080p@60Hz, but they are expensive. Considering I also don't plan to use HDzero at any point, I don't race. And range, that's also hard to judge, but some people covered good distances even with the VRx. Anyway, thanks for your experience, didn't expect a fast reply.
Well Kemosabe, I made a choice nearly two months ago (obviously still waiting for them, Ha, Ha) in the Walksnail Goggles X. I've resisted anything digital and have stuck with my Skyzone O4X for the last 3 years. I see you are certainly not keen on them for quite a few legitimate reasons. Thus I now have concerns, but I am also use to being putting it nicely,, disappointed with FPV products more so than not. Especially as the cost of items have grown exponentially vs quality being lackluster in reality. Part of the game I guess?? If you want to play in this theater of life then pay to play.
Walksnail is just shady from the get go they started with dishonesty trying to hide they were caddx. I personally don’t see how anyone finds this lesser copy of dji appealing. The fake snow is also like they were trying to be slick and make it look like static on purpose.
Walksnail have good idea... but they release product not finish... i think they will have a good potential in the next year... but for now for me it's not ready and the differrence of the price between DJI is not big enough for me to change.
i have goggles x, tbs fusion and the URUAV 5.8G RX PORT 3.0-PLUS Receiver Board. Anyone know why i cant see analog. I switched modes and see the snow. but thats it. I have same band on tbs module as drone. I can see video on my box goggles but not over the goggles x analog. Can someone help? I can hook it up to a tv and see perfect video, but nothing in the goggles.
My volunteer fire department is currently using the Mavic-3 with RC-Pro controller. The RC-Pro has HDMI output and we are using the HDMI output to send video to a pair of goggles for our drone operator. We have the Orca FPV Pilot goggles which has HDMI in and are relatively happy with them. We’d like to add a second pair of goggles and wondering how the Walksnail X compares to the Orca. Thanks!
I wish you'd actually measured the IPD at maximum distance using a pair of calipers...My current WS goggles are just not quite wide enough. Measure from the rim of one lens to the other...please...🤔😳😳😏🇬🇧
Oscar LLiang or how was his name again mentioned that HDMI sockets are too deep in the housing so only specially selected HDMI cables do fit. Can you confirm that JB?
Is it stupid to have both DJI and Walksnail. My feeling is that dji still can’t do a 75 freestyle drone yet and walksnail is small enough and light enough. Thoughts ?
I buy. Tommorow a fatshard hd3. With a lil tbs receiver for 120€ iam fine with analog. I like it more than digital but i think. Analog or digital is more an personal preference than a real choice both systems has his own good and bad points and both are great to fly
Hi. How does the goggles x compare to the dominator HD for nose pressure? I have a lot of nose pressure with the dominator and wanted to know if the goggles x would improve on that aspect. Thanks.
Anyone getting into FPV from scratch is going to face a mountain of costs from just the video+goggles alone. With the price drop of the DJI Avata, the price of the Walksnail goggles+video system, the price of the O3 Air Unit + Goggles 2.... I don't see a better deal than just buying the Avata for 999. Considering all of costs of separately puchasing Goggles + Video system you can now essentially buy the Avata for 90,- more than what a good air unit + goggles will cost It gives a hella stable platform to learn to fly from + the O3 camera + goggles can be used later on when building your own drone.
I'm in this boat. Was looking at the goggles 2 and a TBS Tango 2 Pro, but that's $700+ depending on if I go refurbished. The Avata Pro-View Combo refurbished is $800. Seeing the fit issues with the goggles 2 though is pushing me to wait altogether....
I use Walksnail. I bought them since I believe they will have a new chip for 4k within a year. I do have V1 also I got both figuring my son will fly with me now.
I fly Walksnail, DJI, HDZero, and analog. I also ordered the goggles X in the hope that it's optics are larger then the v1 goggles. I also hoped it might improve range in future but I don't think there is a 4K mode coming like you believe. The 4K that's coming is most likely 4K recording, not 4K transmission to goggles.
The v1 goggles have about 46 degree FOV. The X have about 50 degree. So they are larger. But in my experience this means you can't get the whole screen in view at the same time. The corners are always out of view or blurry.
@@JoshuaBardwell That is good to know. I have the Avatar HD Pro kit I can do 16:9 or 4:3 wonder if switching will help with this or so the website said I thought I maybe mixing up I read so much if not its good to know. I like the low light so can fly after work in winter longer
Thank you for so much info in one video. Answered a ton of questions for an old analog FPV fart like me. Also, weird to be wearing a jacket from a gas station.... 🤣😂
Let's be real if we goinf Digital we going digital and keep analog googles for analog period. I got DJI for ages and love it. Now settings new and some old wings and quads with walksnail googles X and done this guy judging a pizza with a steak. Bad review.😮
Are you arguing about the analog section of that video of Joshua? It's a feature of the goggles and it has flaws, some people like to fly analog, but don't want to bring to pairs of goggles, so this should be in the review... I don't get your argument, that this is a bad review...
Have you checked if you can receive video at 100fps and output hdmi at 60hz at the same time? I have the original walksnail goggles and if i set it to 100fps it won't output to a 60hz monitor (because the monitor doesnt support a 100hz signal) which is quite annoying EDIT: it was mentioned that it doesn't work, walksnail really needs to fix this
No that's not possible. The goggles won't do framerate conversion like that. I've asked WS and they basically said it can't be done. Not that it was entirely impossible, butr that the goggles couldn't be made to do it.
I love mine, but they're like the Nintendo nes of goggles. I can't even put them in my bag with the analog module on. Even with that feature, I still prefer bringing my skyzones for convenience.
Can't u change the Display Zoom in the Goggle settings to get a full sharp image?
Oh crap you can! WTF was I thinking?
@@JoshuaBardwell, I'm confused. I was under the impression that the walksnail cameras are native 4x3 sensors, are they not? If they are, wouldn't you be better off using the system in 4x3 to make the viewing experience better?
I don't think it's true that all WS cameras are native 4:3. The V2 camera is native 4:3 but the Pro camera is 16:9. So if you want the low-light sensitivity of the Pro camera you can't also have the 4:3 aspect ratio. You can see here: ruclips.net/video/IFDkwY1pIjE/видео.html&si=7b8yoAHCkYGxFqVe
But either way, the OSD elements in the corner of the goggle screen are blurry unless you reduce the FOV to pull them inwards.
I don’t think that feature works. Doesn’t work on my goggles at least. My camera is 16:9 pro camera.
Edit: Oscar lang also says the zoom out feature doesn’t work. Just like the v1 goggles.
@@nuddin99 Damn okay lets see If it works for my face :/ Else I might send them back and go for the old Avatar Goggles
Something reviewers are missing is that the old goggles for $370 don't have any antennas included, but the Goggles X do. That is easily $60 or more you will have to immediately spend. So if you consider that the prices are almost the same.
I could have sworn v1 goggles originally came with 4 omni antennas, later versions came with 2 patch 2 omnis. 🤔🤔
@@fpvsmurf ? You can just check if you don't believe me. 🤔
went to about 5 websites to confirm.
Includes
1x Walksnail Avatar Digital HD FPV Goggles
1x Lens Cleaning Cloth
4x Red Bird Antennas
1x XT60 Power Cable
1x Goggle Strap
1x Carry Case@@Bill_Bo
also it was the fatshark version that came with no antennas not the walksnail.
That's exactly why I went with the goggles x, plus it had hdmi in and it's future proof...way more for your money
Waiting for some manufacturer to take up the Open IPC and make it commercially viable solution for fpv.
Left DJI for walksnail and couldn't be happier. The entire walksnail Eco system is just better. Sure the 03 is an amazing piece of technology. But walksnail is a better experience and compared to the DJI v2/vista it's better. Add in 1s vtx and all the options out there.. 03/G2 beats it in image and range, but KY V1 walksnail gets the same range as thr dji v2/vista, but better quality in the glass, better latency (more stable) and more options for VTXs. Yeah I don't miss DJI at all.
Im staying with my V1s for the next year. Eventually will get the X. But im in no rush. Love the V1s
Sooooo you traded a Ferrari for a mustang… mmmmmm k😂
I smell bs especially bs that you even tried the 03.
@@Goldtech6973Its not BS. The vista is 720p, the 03 latency is not good if you push the quad to a certain point of authority that a few can.
@@xORLOCKxI’m exactly like you 100% agreed 👍 I had DJI and walksnail for like 6 months , decided to get rid totally on dji after that even for long range
@@Goldtech6973I keep hearing this from everyone, I'm getting a set of goggles 2 from dji and I'm thinking I'm gonna send them back, we shall see
@@Goldtech6973tell us all you started on dji and still suck why don’t you! 😂
How good could Walksnail get if more people went with them instead of DJI. I refuse to send any of my money to a company that shows little interest in providing what the FPV community wants.
You're going to see a lot of cool stuff comingfrom walksnail in the future.... they are working on 20+ km range vtx, as well as new system all together and they will sell an upgraded vxr board for the goggles X to upgrade the goggles
My question exactly. A company made for FPV and we trash them.
#Lame
DJI laugh at you
Dji has a new set of goggles that has new features that we didn't ask for but really need and never thought about needing that's the surprise things about dji that no one else thinks of u til we really need it later when RID comes in full swing.
DJI could stop right now for ten years and Walk Snail, HD Zero, TBS still couldn’t compete.
What about 1080p 100hz mode?? Almost nobody talking about it,wonder why?
Fat Shark Dominator as of today $380. 4 antennas $80. Total $460. Goggle X = $460.
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VR goggles have been doing 100+ FOV for years now, there is no excuse for poor optics at 50.
So VR goggles get to take advantage of a decent GPU to modify the image on the LCD to account for distortion caused by the optics. They sort of "pre distort" the image in such a way that when it goes through the lens it comes out looking normalish. This allows them to use much cheaper optics, larger and cheaper LCDs and give you a bigger field of view. This probably could be implemented for FPV goggles but it would increase the manufacturing cost to add the processing power, increase the power consumption and add some latency.
WS got a lot hooked through the vrx. Ppl love their micro friendly vtx. I
Had a dominator 3 and I needed diopters so they got me hooked and I want the goggles. The x pushed me to upgrade from the vrx. Can’t wait to get them.
Your literally the only one to catch the "Fake" snow. Good catch
Hopefully, the OpenIPC FPV project will be wiping out all of these issues for the hobby the same as what ELRS did. Cheers
For every fpv content i want to inform myself about you just have a video for it. All i want to say is thank you!
must say i hate this is so expensive. the drone of my dream and these goggles cost almost the same as my freaking car...
Yeahh, lol..that's why I still have analog. If this was my only hobby, I'd go HD with one of these systems, but I have other interests.
i mean build ur own or build budget drones, id rather cheap out on the drone than on goggles and controllers because they last you longer than drones. also the price of these goggles are on the cheaper side of digital fpv already, and all the features it comes with, the future proofing just makes it so good. and even walksnail usually has lower and key point super consistent latency compared to dji, and its also not hard locked on the range
What about 1080p 100 test?
A month after the release and firmware updates…. These are still “shiiiity goggles”.
All that Walk Snail has to do to beat DJI is make a google with a great comfortable fit where you can see the screen perfectly. Then get the 4k going. Oh and no stupid activations or fly apps or any of that stupid stuff. Then DJI RIP!!!! as far as FPV freestyle is concerned! They will always have their high tech super expensive plastic drones though. That fall apart if you look at them the wrong way.
Dji : silent and appear when they ready,
Walksnail : loud at every promises...
You're not wrong.
so, if you already have all possible 100500 variants of all the goggles and shmoggles like JB does then maybe you may want to wait until WS release their "over 20km" upgrade and then decide if you should get one for your collection. I bought WS v1 first because they went cheap and I didn't know why. 3 days later the X goggles were released, that's why. So I bought X immediately and sent back WS v1 back without unpacking them. This is my FIRST digital goggles and I don't care about analog any longer - I simply refuse to fly analog anymore. And yes HDMI input means that I can use OpenHD! Latency? I do long range with fixed wings and I don't care about latency! Larger FOV? Yes I like even larger FOV like DJI goggles v2 has. Don't forget that WS will not put any efforts to support fat shark goggles no more because they have X now.
But Bardwell, you haven't mentioned, how to take off the LED slit eyes and put on the fitting patch antenna (which I bought and have no idea, how to put them on...)
As someone who only has the Recon HD entry level Walksnail box goggles the Goggles X are a pretty tempting looking upgrade.
The Recon HD are actually very good. Using goggles V1 and X are like looking through little keyholes. I love my Scouts which is the same frame as the Recon HD.
Nice review 🤌 well done and well edited :) these are the videos that even as a non newbie i still watch, got very good structure going on atm on your channel mate 😊
I totally can't understand:
why can't just walksnail copy dji system and then just keep it getting better?
like we just see it with every Chinese knockout .
DJI has ties to the Yakuza
I'm geting these. My old analog FS Dom V2 unit still works like a champ. That said there is much to still like about analog. Range, price, very lightweight on the craft and the abitlity to setup a seperate inexpensive ground station for the same signal. Trying to shoehorn too much on one set creates complexity which degrades reliabiltiy. I'm just goning to lug two sets of googles.
Love my analogue still, best thing is everyone is going to digital and can now get analogue BNF's for hundreds less.
Personally still waiting for the next wave of digital goggles, till then analogue FTW
Only ever used walksnail goggles. Never had issues with em. Personally I love them
I believe the real advantage DJI has over all this companies, is that they make a drone you can start with, that includes a radio and goggles, so when you move to manual FPV drones, and start building, you are forced to keep buying their products since it’s what you already have…. Whoever does the marketing for DJI is Genius….
nah bruh. you can get the same thing from iflight. Exept those are real FPV drones
Exactly, that's the boat I'm in, I just ordered the goggles 2 amd motion controller for my dji mini 3, love the drone, but I got the goggles and controller to get into fpv, o ly to realize they don't represent what fpv will feel like at all, and if I wamt to now do my own quad build, I would have to spend hundreds more for the components that are dji friendly..
@@bradical2723if you have the goggles 2, you don’t need to buy expensive stuff, you can build your future quads with caddx vista or RunCam Wasp which are both farely cheap compared to the O3 air unit, and you can use both with the dji rc 2, making it way cheaper than having to buy a separate receiver for each build.
Great review! Do you know if there are Analog modules with a built in DVR or some 'in between DVR' device that one can buy? And what about recording the HDMI out if using analog, can it be recorded to an android phone or sth via HDMI->USB-C ?
I see what might the problem with your analogue video in Goggles X. I had the similar issue with my DJI goggles V2 and recently made post in troubleshooting-forum "DJI goggles V2 awful analogue video". Try to change analogue fatshark module
That FOV thing is my main problem with the Fatshark HD2's I'm currently using, but that was still a huuuge upgrade over the box goggles when I bought them second hand half a year ago lmao
Walksnail is bidirectional communication. What is the control data bit rate and power (tx from the goggles to vtx)? This is interesting because there is a range in which the channel transmitted from the goggles (control data) will limit the range regardless of the connection of directional antennas on the receiving channels in the goggles.
This was the most expensive video I have ever watchef 🤣. I am sold.
5 months later: me too! 😆🤣
@@CarelessPapo One year later, me three.
You are a treasure of the community, thank you sir.
I am still flying analogue, mind you lately I have been flying mainly micro builds for the last few years however the units are getting smaller I am ready to finally make the jump but I am stuck between choosing the HDZero goggles and these new Walksnail goggles
Should I buy it after knowing about the heating issues of the goggles. I'm from India which is already hot enough
15:57 oh god... That comparisment analog vs digital is crazy... I think I should already switch from analog. :D
Year 2024 will be the year when I switch! In few months I'll find myself a new better paid job and then it's set! :D
I tried to put together an analog copter. I had trouble with the range. But omg after using the 03 no way. Digital has ruined me forever!
@@quadbrake how big is diference in range/penetration when comparing analog to digital? From your comment it seems to be very big.
And you mentioned DJI system, but how about the other systems (WS and HDZ) - do they have much better range and penetration too when compared let's says to 1W analog?
I really can't answer that in all honesty. I think I did not have the Rush Tank vtx programed right in BF. I was only getting like 100 feet of range. I know they do way better than that. I do know the 03 gives you really good range and penetration as well as an excellent video feed. The clarity between 03 and the rush tank was no comparison. I do not think I can ever use anything other than digital now. I would like to get away from DJI if I could, only because of the software nonsense. Also the googles never fit me right. Thats why there are so many aftermarket foams made for the DJI googles. I have not tried WS or Zero yet, but I would like too. For me I think it would be WS. I believe you get more range with WS over Zero. @@TomicaCZ
Their ok until next week when the next great thing comes out. Come on man stop this crap.
4:10 “A lot of people aren’t flying analog anyway”
According to Albert Kim’s poll about 1 in 3 does, and according to Painless360 poll almost 50% does. So yeah, a majority does fly digital, bust al lot of people still fly analog according to these polls.
But when you watch the RUclips channels, it’s digital all over the place…
Perhaps because that is the area where are a lot of innovations? But as an analog pilot a lot of video’s aren’t relevant to me anymore 😕
What is review or talk about with analog? There has been nothing really new or innovative for a long time.
Speedy bee has a new receiver, I think there's a new Caddx or Foxeer camera - and I still fly both. My analog fully coated is waterproof and indestructable! The most reliable I have.
And I also saw that video of Painless, where he figured that he should still do content for his analog viewers.@@ChrisCroft77
Skyzone vrx
Speedybee vrx
Speedybee vtx....
Just the first test coming to my mind
No more test about analog, but always here for many oeople.
@@zepzep3739 2 VRX's thatare simlar to Rapidfire or Fusion and another VTX. Nothing to really talk about really
What is the cushy foam on your fat sharks? Looks like that would make any goggle more comfortable
No way I’m betting against DJI. Still to this day never seen a set of walksnail goggles or module in the wild despite interacting with 100+ pilots a year. Only ever seen them on RUclips
They sure do have a lot of shills that are loud.
Everything is "X" these days
Can you use these to practice on a sim? I would love to play Liftoff or Velocidrone with goggles instead of a monitor.
They have HDMI in
The V1 goggles do not include antennas. A nice set is about $75. So there really is no cost savings to buy V1s.
hey from August 2024, can we get another "State of Walksnail Goggles Address"?
How did you fly out of bounds without the game resetting you? lol
Got my avatar goggles x. After 20 minuts left screen became black and stoped working. Real trash for 600$ 😭
5x the range! The record is more than 50km, ok i will buy then 🤗
These are so nice , hoping HDzero catches up soon. I would like to see you try out the Rokid Max glasses. Same micro oled screen and no VRX, but I've been considering these with a standalone VRX.
Pretty disappointing that you are not being more transparent with your issues with these goggles. I saw your live stream rant about them, while a rant in the review could look hostile, I think you should have addressed that issue, or made it known, even if you didn't focus on it for long, I feel like an impartial review would have done that. But instead you removed it from the live stream, re-uploaded it, and left it completely out of the review. What gives?
Maybe they have found a solution for this "error"?
@@philihc I doubt that happened the same night he streamed...
Lets talk about the shirt (2nd half) today, I want to learn about that.
Mini HDMI is not secure :( Camera owners know it the hard way :(
Good review, was a little worried my order from Rotor Riot for the new goggles was going to be regretted but since I only use analog once in a while, these will do just fine and I won't have to lug three sets of different pairs of goggles around any longer. Up side is these also look a bit more compact like the new DJI goggles so even more room in the bag. Weird that whole static issue though. 🤔
Rotoriot shipped mine yesterday(well shipped as in printed the label) I am pissed though since I paid for UPS but the sent the USPS. USPS just sent a package I needed from Columbus ohio 20 min from my house to Wichita kansas "by accident" so now it will be 3 days late. I am happy they shipped them but I paid for UPS with insurance USPS only has insurance up to 100$ Since the label was printed but it has not actually shipped they will fix it and send UPS. If they do or had I would get them saturday instead of USPS Tuesday. Not sure why I can get a package from California in 2 days but 5 days from florida......
@@christopherconkright1317 give Rotor Riot a call on Monday & let them know, nicely, what has happened. They are probably so swamped with their move and getting all these goggles in that they just made a human error. 😉 They are very good about responding and problem solving with you, provided you are respectful, I assure you. 😉❤️
@@KimFusedFPV I just hope if they get lost in the mail they will replace them. The shipping method i chose had 500$ insurance if lost the shipping they chose has no lost insurance. Plus i am in the 2 day shipping for UPS and the 5-7 day shipping(when not backed up like now)usps but i am always respectful. I emailed them thursday before they mailed them but have not heard back. I tried calling but answering machine the last 4 times.
Joshua it's been a little while since your video comparing the range and penetration of various video systems. Do you find the new walksnail hardware performs well but slightly worse than DJI?
Yes it's close to on par with V2/Vista, and noticeably not quite as good as O3/G2.
When talking about the HDMI passthrough with your phone: it might be some sort of HDCP compliance mechanism built into the chip that controls the HDMI port.
That's possible I guess. The phone worked correctly when it was doing Samsung Dex but when it switched to screen mirroring, the passthrough didn't work.
which battery is a good one for those goggles?
thank you for this. it seems that since the Walksnail receiver along with the HDZero goggles supports the high refresh, along with the high refresh of HDZero, as well as their fancy analog wizardry, that the HDZero goggles seem to continue to be the best choice for someone who wants the best experience from as many worlds as they can.
@yarbsfpv thank you for THIS comment lol. i'm about to buy a large HDZero lot based on JB's video on those goggles, and i just saw this video and it's more recent I was worried
@@gr3yh47 do note : for the sake of the most information, this dude Mayday.Aerial has a vid up from a few days ago where he does talk about a few issues specifically using the walksnail receiver with the hdz gogs.
Thank you for the review. Right now I'm using the Walksnail VRX with my beloved HDO2 goggles. The WS V1 goggles didn't have any real advantage to my setup (except the 1080p) and the missing analog in was a real dealbreaker because i have some long range analog wings. I'm glad I saved my money when the V1 came out so now I can buy the X.
Are you happy with it?
As a walksnail goggle I like it a lot, but the analog input is still not to be recommended. Also I had to upgrade the heatsink because I had the Problem with the right screen turning of because of overheating. Yet I think it is worth the money.
@@M4trix42 i see. Well, I'm in a spot where I can't get dji goggles 2 to fit my face, so I'm thinking of getting the vrx and trying walksnail with my hdo2s first. X is supposedly similar in shape to the G2.
HDO2 with VRX is a great combination but keep in mind, that the HDO2 only can display in 720p resolution. Still damn good picture
@@M4trix42 yeah. I know. I'm more worried about latency increase. For that reason, I'm also considering HDZero goggles or Skyzone SkyO4X pro, as those could do 720p@100Hz or 1080p@60Hz, but they are expensive. Considering I also don't plan to use HDzero at any point, I don't race. And range, that's also hard to judge, but some people covered good distances even with the VRx. Anyway, thanks for your experience, didn't expect a fast reply.
Can I also connect and use an analog drone?
Well Kemosabe, I made a choice nearly two months ago (obviously still waiting for them, Ha, Ha) in the Walksnail Goggles X. I've resisted anything digital and have stuck with my Skyzone O4X for the last 3 years. I see you are certainly not keen on them for quite a few legitimate reasons. Thus I now have concerns, but I am also use to being putting it nicely,, disappointed with FPV products more so than not. Especially as the cost of items have grown exponentially vs quality being lackluster in reality. Part of the game I guess?? If you want to play in this theater of life then pay to play.
Walksnail is just shady from the get go they started with dishonesty trying to hide they were caddx. I personally don’t see how anyone finds this lesser copy of dji appealing. The fake snow is also like they were trying to be slick and make it look like static on purpose.
Walksnail have good idea... but they release product not finish... i think they will have a good potential in the next year... but for now for me it's not ready and the differrence of the price between DJI is not big enough for me to change.
If i understand... Hdzero + walksnail vrx is better than walksnail googles x??? In less words of course, googles have the upgrade posibility
its weird, I have a 144Hz Monitor that works this way over HDMI in Windows, but Walksnail doesn't work until I select "standard" framerate...
i have goggles x, tbs fusion and the URUAV 5.8G RX PORT 3.0-PLUS Receiver Board. Anyone know why i cant see analog. I switched modes and see the snow. but thats it. I have same band on tbs module as drone. I can see video on my box goggles but not over the goggles x analog. Can someone help? I can hook it up to a tv and see perfect video, but nothing in the goggles.
My volunteer fire department is currently using the Mavic-3 with RC-Pro controller.
The RC-Pro has HDMI output and we are using the HDMI output to send video to a pair of goggles for our drone operator.
We have the Orca FPV Pilot goggles which has HDMI in and are relatively happy with them.
We’d like to add a second pair of goggles and wondering how the Walksnail X compares to the Orca.
Thanks!
I wish you'd actually measured the IPD at maximum distance using a pair of calipers...My current WS goggles are just not quite wide enough. Measure from the rim of one lens to the other...please...🤔😳😳😏🇬🇧
I am still using the Fatshark HD2 from 2015 😅, just bought a hdzero receiver for it, very exited to try hdzero, and compare it to rapidfire analog.
Oscar LLiang or how was his name again mentioned that HDMI sockets are too deep in the housing so only specially selected HDMI cables do fit. Can you confirm that JB?
Is it stupid to have both DJI and Walksnail. My feeling is that dji still can’t do a 75 freestyle drone yet and walksnail is small enough and light enough. Thoughts ?
thanks again.
Can this googles be used as VR set?
It looks like all basic hardware required for it is present.
It just requires proper software .
That sh#$% is hi tech, still rocking my Aomway goggles. They just won't die. 😊
If you fly against the sun you can see nothing in the shadow. Do the other digital systems handle this better? Analogue does...
I buy. Tommorow a fatshard hd3. With a lil tbs receiver for 120€ iam fine with analog. I like it more than digital but i think. Analog or digital is more an personal preference than a real choice both systems has his own good and bad points and both are great to fly
Hi. How does the goggles x compare to the dominator HD for nose pressure? I have a lot of nose pressure with the dominator and wanted to know if the goggles x would improve on that aspect. Thanks.
Anyone getting into FPV from scratch is going to face a mountain of costs from just the video+goggles alone. With the price drop of the DJI Avata, the price of the Walksnail goggles+video system, the price of the O3 Air Unit + Goggles 2.... I don't see a better deal than just buying the Avata for 999. Considering all of costs of separately puchasing Goggles + Video system you can now essentially buy the Avata for 90,- more than what a good air unit + goggles will cost
It gives a hella stable platform to learn to fly from + the O3 camera + goggles can be used later on when building your own drone.
I'm in this boat. Was looking at the goggles 2 and a TBS Tango 2 Pro, but that's $700+ depending on if I go refurbished. The Avata Pro-View Combo refurbished is $800. Seeing the fit issues with the goggles 2 though is pushing me to wait altogether....
My first thought when it came out….
What will JB say
3 months later…… HaHa! Finally man Thankyou!
What does he mean “A lot of people aren’t analog anymore”? Is that really the case, Anybody know the stats on this?
I use Walksnail. I bought them since I believe they will have a new chip for 4k within a year. I do have V1 also I got both figuring my son will fly with me now.
I fly Walksnail, DJI, HDZero, and analog. I also ordered the goggles X in the hope that it's optics are larger then the v1 goggles. I also hoped it might improve range in future but I don't think there is a 4K mode coming like you believe. The 4K that's coming is most likely 4K recording, not 4K transmission to goggles.
The v1 goggles have about 46 degree FOV. The X have about 50 degree. So they are larger. But in my experience this means you can't get the whole screen in view at the same time. The corners are always out of view or blurry.
@@ChrisHarmon1 They announced a 4k camera coming in their facebook group for next august maybe it will maybe not we will see.
@@JoshuaBardwell That is good to know. I have the Avatar HD Pro kit I can do 16:9 or 4:3 wonder if switching will help with this or so the website said I thought I maybe mixing up I read so much if not its good to know. I like the low light so can fly after work in winter longer
What are the best combination for camera TX and GOOGLES for rc aeroplane?
Like hdzero , hdmi to hdmi seems to either be too much loading for them or its literally a DRM prevention
So pixilated 😢
Bluescreened about 1.5km out with my plane, digital goggles -> analog signal is iffy IMO
What FPV googles does Drone Racing League use?
I have heard they don't fit very well if you have a more generous nose 😂
Could the wifi capability be a way that they could integrate dvr through an app??
Try flying in 4:3 its just a little narrower than 16:9
How do you see the setting of XR Glasses with HD VRX Module?
That fingerprint on the lens making my leg shake.
GoggleS ! Not goggle : or are you wearing a trouser ??? 🤔
The ugliest googles design ever, IMHO )
What ? New VR headset of Google 2023 ?
Thank you for so much info in one video. Answered a ton of questions for an old analog FPV fart like me. Also, weird to be wearing a jacket from a gas station.... 🤣😂
Ha I liked that ya called them Dji 03 goggles😅
Can you Wire a DJI HD camera to A Avatar HD VTX? I imagine it would be like putting a Canon lens on a Sony camera. Any improvement?
No that's not possible.
Let's be real if we goinf Digital we going digital and keep analog googles for analog period. I got DJI for ages and love it. Now settings new and some old wings and quads with walksnail googles X and done this guy judging a pizza with a steak. Bad review.😮
Are you arguing about the analog section of that video of Joshua?
It's a feature of the goggles and it has flaws, some people like to fly analog, but don't want to bring to pairs of goggles, so this should be in the review...
I don't get your argument, that this is a bad review...
Goggles is best for fpv racing
Have you checked if you can receive video at 100fps and output hdmi at 60hz at the same time?
I have the original walksnail goggles and if i set it to 100fps it won't output to a 60hz monitor (because the monitor doesnt support a 100hz signal) which is quite annoying
EDIT: it was mentioned that it doesn't work, walksnail really needs to fix this
No that's not possible. The goggles won't do framerate conversion like that. I've asked WS and they basically said it can't be done. Not that it was entirely impossible, butr that the goggles couldn't be made to do it.
They get really hot really quick
how to activate 50 mbps?
You cant take walksnal to the races though right? Like DJI you cant race with. Its only HDzero and analog that racing works with?
yes and yes
Problem with the hdzero goggles is they weigh a metric ton then you bolt on analog module and walksnail and you can’t stand up wearing them
I love mine, but they're like the Nintendo nes of goggles. I can't even put them in my bag with the analog module on. Even with that feature, I still prefer bringing my skyzones for convenience.