Japanese Army 35mm Type 10 Flare Pistol

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • The Japanese Army and Navy of the 1920s and 30s often used quite different equipment, and had a substantial interservice rivalry. Flare guns were one example of this separation, with the services using not just different flare pistols, but totally different flare cartridges. The Navy used a 28mm flare (mostly in double and triple barreled launchers like we saw last week), while the Army used a 35mm flare mostly in single barrel launchers like this Type 35.
    Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the Type 10 flare pistol is its similarity to the Type 26 revolver, with which is shares a number of distinctive features including the grips, spurless hammer, and trigger guard. These flare pistols were typically issued in leather holsters, but towards the end of the war a substitute type made of rubberized canvas was also issued - one of which is being sold with this Type 10.
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Комментарии • 123

  • @coljones98
    @coljones98 5 лет назад +13

    This flare gun sat on my Grandpas shelf since before I was burn and never knew what it was! Thanks for the information!

  • @flyingninja1234
    @flyingninja1234 6 лет назад +14

    If I just saw that holster laying somewhere I would've thought it's leather. Japan did good work with limited resources.

  • @cravenjooooooooooooo
    @cravenjooooooooooooo 6 лет назад +260

    But where's the bayonet lug?

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 6 лет назад +6

    Flare pistols are pretty interesting. I loved the hand mortars you examined in an earlier video. This is just a modernized iteration of that idea. Line Throwing Guns, Flare Pistols, and Kampfpistoles, represent attempts to improve tactical coordination, rather than a general effort to confer extra firepower on an already loaded down squad, platoon, or company. Sure, the 27mm KP did experiment with the multirole application paradigm (and an AntiTank Grenade was made for the weapon), but it did it extremely badly overall. A 27mm-35mm Grenade that can be fired from a hand held weapon is not likely to penetrate much armor (even the HEAT round developed for it).

  • @Sluxslol
    @Sluxslol 6 лет назад +27

    that knurling reminds me of the chinese mystery pistols that copied functional elements of other guns without actually needing those elements.

  • @jkjrkarmia514
    @jkjrkarmia514 6 лет назад +4

    In the early 2000s the 37 mm flare launchers got pretty big here and the so called bird bombs were a lot of fun until the ATF got enough complaints, some people like me a lot of other young guys that were firing them around town around so they reclassified the bird bombs which were used to scare off birds from runaways as a agricultural device and you need a permit to get those explosive rounds now but you can still get them or make them on your own. it was a pretty cool fad...

  • @donnydonadio1185
    @donnydonadio1185 6 лет назад +41

    Obviously missing a sword bayonet.

  • @Raizinghell21
    @Raizinghell21 6 лет назад +4

    You could say the hammers on the flare gun and the revolver are *strikingly* similar!

  • @augustvanhout2163
    @augustvanhout2163 6 лет назад +28

    Forgotten signaling tools

  • @foutsjames4900
    @foutsjames4900 6 лет назад +5

    Thank you sir for one of the most interesting RUclips channels. You combine two of my favorite interests: History and Firearms. Thank you for your research and entertaining presentation.

  • @ThatFreakingDude
    @ThatFreakingDude 6 лет назад +6

    Maybe they just re-purposed excess/lower quality revolver parts for flare guns, hence a certain degree of unification in frame/other details?

  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 6 лет назад +16

    I really like the chance to look at the support equipment of military forces as it is this very equipment that was a day to day part of military actions, be it victory or loss. 'For want of a nail' as the old saying goes is very true.

  • @commandervideo2054
    @commandervideo2054 6 лет назад +21

    I think japanese flare pistols might be Ian's fetish

  • @LoneWolf051
    @LoneWolf051 6 лет назад +7

    I see a broomhandle Mauser grip on this thing

  • @zachaliles
    @zachaliles 6 лет назад +1

    I don't really care about flare pistols, Japanese or otherwise. But I love your enthusiasm in the video and I couldn't help but watch the whole thing.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 6 лет назад +1

    I wonder if maybe Japanese military procurement switched from era dating to Imperial Calendar dating after Emperor Taishō's death because his era was so short. It was only 14 years, shorter than the expected service lifespans of some pieces of equipment (especially those adopted toward the end). Probably hard to know for sure, but it's a thought.

  • @AppliedGats
    @AppliedGats 6 лет назад +15

    So whoever designed this gun was basically as knowledgeable about takedown features as a independent craftsman in rural china! It seems like the late war Japanese military would want to save on money and tooling, so why would they not simply use the frame of an existing revolver?

    • @gamecubekingdevon3
      @gamecubekingdevon3 6 лет назад

      probably because this was used on revolver, so, they used the same pieces.
      because it's simplier to just send more material to one production area to make it product more, than opening an new production area elsewhere.

  • @mcqueenfanman
    @mcqueenfanman 6 лет назад +14

    I'd like to see an M-79 review.

    • @supersonicbros23
      @supersonicbros23 3 года назад +1

      3 year old comment but while I was scrolling this comment lined up with Ian's new M79 vid in the recommended so figured I'd say yo its here.

  • @douglasdwight1
    @douglasdwight1 Год назад

    Really good video, which gives a whole new appreciation for a Japanese flare pistol.

  • @Calvin_Coolage
    @Calvin_Coolage 6 лет назад +4

    One day, one day, I'm bidding on one of these gun auctions.
    Probably on one of the less expensive auctions, though. Unless I become a millionaire, in which case, all bets are off.

    • @sshep86
      @sshep86 6 лет назад +2

      Surely, in that case, all bets would be on.

  • @randomuser778
    @randomuser778 6 лет назад +4

    Does the trigger guard swivel forward if it's unlatched? If so, then it may be so it can fired while wearing mittens or heavy gloves, rather than for disassembly.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  6 лет назад +5

      No, if you remove the screw the trigger guard just comes off.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 6 лет назад +6

    You should stay with this subject matter. You have a flare for it.
    I'll let myself out.

  • @dsedh23
    @dsedh23 6 лет назад +54

    No bayonet jokes are allowed here

    • @Thatguy-er6ud
      @Thatguy-er6ud 6 лет назад +1

      dsedh23 to late

    • @C2welder
      @C2welder 6 лет назад +8

      dsedh23 but does it take glock mags?

    • @nurglepembrush384
      @nurglepembrush384 6 лет назад +2

      No only 600 round clipazines.

    • @RockIslandAuctionCompany
      @RockIslandAuctionCompany 6 лет назад +4

      Can I take a stab at one?

    • @Grobut81
      @Grobut81 6 лет назад +2

      You can't tell me what to do! You're not my real Dad!
      I'm going to my room! :¨(

  • @argoshikan
    @argoshikan 6 лет назад +1

    So what would be your advice on reading material for someone who wants to begin collecting ww2-era handguns?

  • @Wtdtd
    @Wtdtd 6 лет назад +7

    3:51
    its serial number is OVER 6000!!!

    • @aosabi
      @aosabi 6 лет назад +1

      WHAT!?! 6000!

  • @iyourelder8590
    @iyourelder8590 6 лет назад +38

    Hallo!

  • @dogemasters4491
    @dogemasters4491 4 года назад +1

    FLARE GUNS RULE

  • @Enny_Gima
    @Enny_Gima 6 лет назад

    Ian's really into flare guns lately

  • @RukaSubCh
    @RukaSubCh 6 лет назад

    That is in really good condition wow.

  • @ismJoboi
    @ismJoboi 2 года назад

    I’m just gonna ask for the the sling like thing at the bottom of every revolver and what is the purpose of the sling like thing at the bottom of the revolver?

  • @devilsitez
    @devilsitez 6 лет назад

    Maybe the trigger guard flips forward to access the trigger with gloves?

  • @flashbeaster
    @flashbeaster 6 лет назад

    i finally understand this channel

  • @normskvarca
    @normskvarca 6 лет назад +2

    Love your videos!

  • @wthk1-teito
    @wthk1-teito 2 года назад

    Strange question but is there anyone who has the measurements for this or can take them if you're a collector who has one? I received a holster meant for this (appears to be a replica holster?, and no, I am not selling it, sorry!) and I was thinking of getting a dummy prop / toy one made to display with it and have it actually fit perfectly.

  • @muhammadnajmimurindo9289
    @muhammadnajmimurindo9289 6 лет назад +8

    Far Cry 3 & 4 ......

  • @francislematt7079
    @francislematt7079 6 лет назад

    The trigger guard opens not for disassembly but for winter mittens perhaps?

    • @francislematt7079
      @francislematt7079 6 лет назад

      Yes that is what Ian said but there still is a room (around 3:27)which appears to allow the trigger guard to swing. Perhaps as the late production cutting corners they skipped a couple of filing steps to save time that the trigger guard doesn't open or something.

  • @princedhyani2370
    @princedhyani2370 2 года назад

    Nice gun

  • @evanburke2766
    @evanburke2766 6 лет назад +8

    Where's the bayonet

  • @KarlfMjolnir
    @KarlfMjolnir 6 лет назад

    Out of curiosity, if there'd been more standardization between the Navy and Army (ammo, for instance) do you think things would've gone differently?

    • @insertnamehere001
      @insertnamehere001 6 лет назад

      Much differently. You see, the Army and Navy fought seperate wars. The Army was fighting Mainland China, whereas the Navy fought the Pacific. They both disagreed with each other over which was the correct campaigne (now we know the Navy was wrong).
      The Army, for instance, did not want Pearl Harbor to happen, but the Emperor had shifted power from the Army to the Navy. And for some poor Army soldiers, the Navy would leave them on the islands when retreating against the Americans, so the Army soldiers had no way of leaving the islands.

  • @landfair123
    @landfair123 6 лет назад +6

    Could flare guns in ww2 fire small grenades? I know some German ones could.

    • @Durnstaros
      @Durnstaros 6 лет назад +5

      Anyone who doubts this can look up the Leuchtpistole Z and the Sturmpistole. The Waffenamt ordered a bewildering array of loads for their flare guns, including lightweight grenades, HEAT charges and close quarter shrapnel loads to be fired from behind cover such as a pistol port on a tank.

  • @wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193
    @wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193 6 лет назад

    Can you do the WW1 British and French flare guns

  • @danieltaylor5542
    @danieltaylor5542 6 лет назад

    Very or Verey illuminating.

  • @owenjoemusic
    @owenjoemusic Год назад

    broom handle flare gun

  • @zhixian9924
    @zhixian9924 4 года назад

    When did the flare gun become black?

  • @sapper12b68
    @sapper12b68 6 лет назад +1

    Still interesting

  • @TheAngelOfBalls
    @TheAngelOfBalls 6 лет назад

    Oh shit its 2D's flare gun!

  • @dfwai7589
    @dfwai7589 6 лет назад

    Hi Ian

  • @greycatturtle7132
    @greycatturtle7132 2 года назад

    Cool

  • @xZippy
    @xZippy 6 лет назад

    Wonder what country this Japanese 35mm thing came from..?

  • @storm99_
    @storm99_ 6 лет назад +1

    Wait, isn't this the flare gun from the gorillaz dirty harry? I mean it does look like it.

  • @jjbilogayt9311
    @jjbilogayt9311 6 лет назад

    PLS DO M16A3 M203!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @sshep86
    @sshep86 6 лет назад +1

    Modify it to fire grenades.

  • @commissarblitz9480
    @commissarblitz9480 6 лет назад

    By chance could you do a German MG 15

    • @UXB1000
      @UXB1000 6 лет назад

      WeAreSith WeAreDarkness He already did.

  • @calleb1594
    @calleb1594 6 лет назад +2

    WTF ?????? No bayonet lug it’s Japanese.

  • @somecoder3054
    @somecoder3054 6 лет назад

    Is this ideal for shooting zombies and cultusts? 🤔

  • @captaindeadward9620
    @captaindeadward9620 6 лет назад

    Hi

  • @KAZUYAGONNATRY
    @KAZUYAGONNATRY 6 лет назад

    This gun looks like a toy pistol...

  • @bruhbruhbruhbruh12
    @bruhbruhbruhbruh12 6 лет назад +1

    Does this thing handle 12g shells? It looks like it might..

    • @bruhbruhbruhbruh12
      @bruhbruhbruhbruh12 6 лет назад

      HipHopKiller94 ahh I see... you’re more of an expert than I am

    • @sshep86
      @sshep86 6 лет назад +1

      Much better to shoot grenades. ;)

    • @bruhbruhbruhbruh12
      @bruhbruhbruhbruh12 6 лет назад

      toomanyaccounts well it would be fun nonetheless to have a 12g scatter gun in your pocket..

    • @Regolith86
      @Regolith86 6 лет назад

      A 12 gauge shotgun shell is 18.5mm. This thing is 35mm. A 12 gauge cartridge would fall straight through.

    • @bruhbruhbruhbruh12
      @bruhbruhbruhbruh12 6 лет назад

      Regolith thank you for the info, I only looked at it for a moments and assumed

  • @MichaelBerthelsen
    @MichaelBerthelsen 6 лет назад

    Interesting it doesn't say 'type 10', it specifically says 'type year 10', literally '10 year type/style'.

    • @Teddyman1
      @Teddyman1 6 лет назад +1

      Michael Berthelsen not really, it's just how Japanese grammar works

    • @MichaelBerthelsen
      @MichaelBerthelsen 6 лет назад

      Großdeutschland Inserting the word 'year' has nothing to do with grammar. And no, it isn't.

    • @aosabi
      @aosabi 6 лет назад

      It says 十 年式
      "Model - Year 10" (similar to saying Model 1911 as the formal name for a Colt .45) is how I would write it in English (or Year 10 Model), but in Japanese grammatical structure it is 10 + year + model as you say. But I think you fail to see that them having the word 'year' there, is the same as us using BC (Before Christ), BCE (Before Common Era), CE (Common Era), or AD (Anno Domini).

    • @MichaelBerthelsen
      @MichaelBerthelsen 6 лет назад

      Tekketsu no Ryuu Oh, having 'year' in there is not like having 'BC' or 'AD', etc...

    • @aosabi
      @aosabi 6 лет назад

      You miss the point I was making. Of course we dont put AD on all our time stamps, it is usually quite obvious what era something is from when you have a time difference of 2000 years. Even with Japanese era lasting ~30 years in their shortest, it is still easy to determine what era a date is from. When not obvious, its labeled 平成 or such.
      What I am saying though, is they put 年 after any year value, to show that it is the year, not some random number or other date, just as we would label a year with AD when its context is not obvious.

  • @MasterJawata
    @MasterJawata 6 лет назад +7

    I think that character you think is ten is actually just a dirty stain, because I don't think the Japanese will ever use western calender on their equipments at that time. I look up where kokura arsenal was and supposedly it was moved to Kyushu(九州)in 1935. I reckon that 9 character is there to show where it was made, whick can also explain the other character which I thought was 木(wood), but it might also be the first character for Honshu(本州). Just my two cents tough.

    • @MasterJawata
      @MasterJawata 6 лет назад

      kuangsheng I'm referring to the markings in the holster.

    • @vrisbrianm4720
      @vrisbrianm4720 6 лет назад +3

      If it was indeed a "ten", then the numbers would represent Shōwa year 19 (which is the same as 1944), which would make sense since this was a late war production.
      The word below the arsenal mark is ホ , which was the inspection mark of the Kokura Arsenal.

    • @MasterJawata
      @MasterJawata 6 лет назад

      I see I'm wrong with the inspection mark. However I'm still skeptical about the year, just that it really look like a stain rather than the character had wear off.

    • @vrisbrianm4720
      @vrisbrianm4720 6 лет назад

      Ya... so if it was a stain and just a "nine" on it, then maybe it meant the holster was made during the ninth year of Kokura Arsenal's establishment? Since Kokura was set up in the mid-1930s with relocated Tokyo Arsenal's machinery. (Another wild guess...)

    • @MichaelBerthelsen
      @MichaelBerthelsen 6 лет назад +1

      MasterJawata If you look very carefully, it does actually look like there's at black, almost gone 十 underneath the stain, in a way that lines up perfectly with the 九 underneath.

  • @twilightparanormalresearch186
    @twilightparanormalresearch186 4 года назад

    Gun Jesus is now....signaling instrument Jesus

  • @ryanwoodin9995
    @ryanwoodin9995 6 лет назад

    Ok ok. I love the channel but enough with the flare pistols

  • @kodiakkeith
    @kodiakkeith 6 лет назад +7

    Oh, stop with the flare pistols already! We're here for the shooty stuff.

    • @dedu7279
      @dedu7279 6 лет назад +58

      Well, there are other people than you here with other interests.

    • @RedSemen420
      @RedSemen420 6 лет назад +37

      A true gun enthusiast loves ALL types of guns...
      even crossbows!

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 6 лет назад +6

      Speak for yourself, hoss. I like the peek into history as much as the "shooty stuff".

    • @pennsylvaniafellow4409
      @pennsylvaniafellow4409 6 лет назад +17

      But flareguns dun shoot flares

    • @AtholAnderson
      @AtholAnderson 6 лет назад +8

      Hush child.