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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Lewitt kindly loaned us a second LCT1040 Ultimate Microphone System to see what we'd do with it, so we decided to do something a bit different - record a fekkin great big pipe organ! This is the first time we've recorded such an instrument so was a bit of an experiment, and after trying a few different spacings and polar patterns we went with a Blumlein pair in figure of eight mode, at 100% Fet. And boy, were we pleased when we listened back on our ATCs!
We also set up a mid/side pair using the incredible Lewitt LCT640TS as the sides mic, with a LCT140AIR as the mid - and that also sounded spectacular!
Lewitt are absolutely knocking it out the park with their entire range - every mic we've tried sounds absolutely fantastic, is built like a tank, and is incredible value for money too.
A HUGE thank you to the wonderful Jonathan Lilley at Waltham Abbey Church for allowing us to record this incredible instrument, and performing so admirably for us! And our aplologies for letting the pigeon in...
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Thank you so much for this awesome video, the organ really sounds fabulous! And the Flopcat's purring... Music to our ears! 💚
Now thats an Additive synth!
Well done fellas!
One word: MAGNIFICENT!!!!
The rare organist with stage presence!
Not one joke about big organs!
Absolutely Awesome!
Splendid!
Sounds absolutely enormous even in my little studio. Wow.
Holy moly that is AMAZING!!! Thank you for sharing this. 🙏🤗
An epic of epic epicness! 🙌
Wow, that sound is awesome. Fantastic work getting in there and capturing that amazing music!
Thanks Derek!
Lovely.
What a massive sound. These @Lewitt mics are fantastic.
massive soundstage
Sounds f'in nice gents 😎🤘
When do we get to see the outtake where Mark drops a smokin' Booker T riff and loosens the stained glass?
I gotta admit, the LCT1040's sounded massive with a great stereo spread! Awesome 😎
Awesome! Organo grande suono!
Wow, that sounded absolutely EPIC!
Wow
Excellent recording 👍. You were right to place the mics where you did rather than up high - there are few things more annoying than an organ recording where the wheezes and clunks are clearly audible due to bad mic positioning. You definitely found the sweet spot for the instrument and the building (I was there for a wedding several years ago). I'm sure the church and organist are delighted - the others will have to pay if they want you to fit them into your schedule!
Wow... sitting having lunch and popped my headphones on and my lunch took on a whole narrative adventure.
People! Remember to go leave a like on Jonathans videos. They were excellent!
Absolutely do this, he’s a lovely chap and deserves recognition!
A brilliant presentation. Love your professionalism overall, and clarity in your reviews. Thank you. Cheers
Thanks Guys. A great tour through the Organ.
Impressive sound, very nice video. Great to have the bonus with the private tour etc... !
Sadly, this was the last instrument built by the London firm of N. P. Mander before they went bust. It's not wholly new either, but a rebuild of the previous Walker organ.
Love the purring cat (multiple feline owners of the facility here), but sorry to say coincident techniques (MS, XY, et al) are not a good choice for organs or orchestras, especially in a good space. For this type of work have a look at omnis in AB at 50 cm, with diffraction spheres (don't know if the mics you'd selected had an omni option or not). Neumann KM183s or Schoeps MK2Hs are amazing. The imaging not only left-to-right but also front-to-back (where the coincident techniques really fall apart) is astonishing. The Schoeps in particular are jaw dropping in this configuration. Plus, without the inherent LF roll-off of directional mics, organ recordings in particular are much more vibrant and real. Give it try when you can. We do a lot of orchestral work and switched from MS to AB 50 cm 15 years ago and never looked back. :)
Bloody hell. you can feel that organ!!
Just Fabulous!!!! What a noise!!!!! Can I send a set list please for the collection of tracks for team to record?
very interesting
I am in awe that you guys have this great show and this girt dry humour between you guys. Keep it up. It makes for some great smurking moments.
While you are able to create a very serious show that anyone serious about audio engineering will reference to.
I absolutely love this! The bottom end on the 1040's is phenomenal, so airy and extended but beautifully integrated into the overall sound at the same time. The M/S pair wasn't terrible but the 1040's....wow! It's not just the mics though, the positioning is spot on and I totally agree with Mark that getting this right is about using your ears, not some Tonmeister manual. Your channel is definitely my current favourite, keep up the great work.
Wowee! Sounds epic!!
OK, just back from the Tonal Tour. A magnificent sounding organ, and an educational tour round what you could call an early synthesizer! Kudos to Mr. Lilley for demonstrating this so well.
I'll re-listen to this on my studio monitors tomorrow, and give it some welly. Looking forward to that!
A great job all round, from the organ restorers to your recording/video session. Thanks!
what a great sound !!!
Just a question, mates, did you have the idea to sample this organ? I know this is not your primary business, but well, I would realy love to play it...
(No need for a perfect pre-programed instrument, just all the raw files of all notes, registers and articulations, I would do my works to map, loop and do all the usual things in my sampler.)
It’s not a bad idea!
Ok this is a brilliant idea
@@PresentDayProduction I’d buy it. Great vid 🎶🎶🎶
This was awesome guys.... the Blumlein Pair had the power and presence over the MS Pair but it still sounded great, what an interesting experiment, those Lewitt mic's are incredible.
Wow, Hans Zimmer would be proud of you
Very interesting video. I was surprised by how good both sets sounded.
Let me preface this by saying I'm Greek, born, raised and living in Greece, a primarily Eastern Orthodox country, therefore I have never heard an organ in person. I have to say your recording sounded impressive! I liked the 1040s by themselves, they seemed to have a more meaty, in your face, sound. Please bring us more experiments like that!!!!
Jonathan Lilly... You da man!
Absolutely gorgeous.
But the space itself also sounds incredible…would the Lewitt mic be a good choice for capturing the ambience of the cathedral for a convolution reverb?
Just curious.
😊🙏
I’d say most likely yes it would!
Wow - I've spent most of my several decades on this planet listening to pipe organ music. I have a pretty large collection, including older recordings by the great Feike Asma playing many of the great Dutch and German organs and more recent recordings of contemporary organists like Christopher Herrick playing in Westminster Abbey And Norwich Cathedral, and this is probably as good an organ recording as I've heard. Great low end without being 'sludgy', good detail and clarity (difficult), good balance of direct and ambient sound (tricky) and the stereo image is excellent. Maybe you should put yourself 'out there' as organ recordists. (Maybe try St. Stephens in Passau if you want a real challenge - that's a whopper!) Kudos....
I recently heard a functional Organ in Norwich, it was played pretty badly (which itself is a cliche) and I can attest to the fact that these recordings are an exact like-ness! It's an absolute pleasure to hear a well played one!
Holy smoke...
Would have been a nice addition.
That purring at the end was mono, missed a chance there. But the organ really sounded great on both pairs of mics. I didn't use headphones, but my speakers loved it.
The cat is mono.
Sorry, cat. 😹
FlopCat LCT 1040 ASMR video coming soon… someone donated some cash for us to buy more chicken for that precise purpose so now we HAVE to do it
@@PresentDayProduction Not a huge ASMR fan here, unless it's Mark shouting "Foecal".
Also a dedicated 8 hour video of that on the way too
@@PresentDayProduction You should do a 360 degree binaural audio clip of the cat purring. People watching with headphones will be like, "What the hell?" 😂
What a lovely bit of music. Well done boys (as always). My Shape Twins did a fairly nice job
of playing that back. Another 20 for beers on the way..or perhaps flop cat chicken ...Ive learned a lot on this site
Very kind, FlopCat thanks you profusely!❤️
Whoah.
That organ sound is thicker than the sludge James uses to make his hair look like a porcupine tribute band. . .
It’s all been cut off as of this evening, and it’s been donated to a porcupine sanctuary for bald porcupines
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks be to the porcupine god. . .
Good evening all😊
the reason for putting mics higher is to get it a tat more direct sound
I wonder if that guy has his organ donator card
4:37 Your man is battling some awful latency. He needs to reduce his buffer size.
While there could be some sync issues, most organs actually have a bit of latency when playing and given the fact that the microphones were placed towards the front of the church and away from the organist, it's most likely in sync (or close to it).
Whilst I’m sure the top comment is a gag, the audio is actually perfectly synced - pipe organs rely on the transmission of air for the sound to play, and so there actually IS a tiny delay of about 100-200ms between the key press and the sound! Which I’d imagine makes it quite difficult to play…
Indeed - there's latency in the instrument but distance between pipes and keys (and/or mike) often and as in this case tips the balance between carefree playing and dealing with latency. You just get used to it really.
@@PresentDayProduction Yes I was just making a joke. It must be as hard adjusting the latency on a cathedral as it is on an orchestra. Yet we all manage somehow! :-)
@@jonathan.lilley I’m actually in awe of the skill required to adjust for that - it looks like it would be really hard… bravo!! 🙌
I must admit that did sound quite a lot like an organ. However, I haven't heard an organ in person for quite a few years, for some of the reasons Mark mentioned.
Even on an iPad the Lewitts sound spectacular. I can only dream of what the organ sounded like on the ATCs!
The sound quality is pretty impressive, IMO the most obstacle of Lewitt product to sell is the appearance.
People get use to Neumann and etc product for years, it's hard to convince client to chose it.
James here, I personally think their mics are super sexy but I do know what you mean - it’s not the “traditional” look. But I like modern, for sure!
@@PresentDayProduction Yes i think Lwiett mic's looking is sci-fi style and i like it. But from my experience most my singer friends would like old-fashioned Neumann more. For years visual art and post incepted a neurogram to public the microphone appearance.
I should bloomin’ well hope there are no “big organ” gags... there’s nowt funny about such a lofty erection... however hard you blew those enormous stiff pipes.
When it comes to doing a mid-side organ A/B comparison... I do like to be beside the C-side.
Did you have a dB meter available on the day? Just curious what level of sound a church organ can produce👍
By ear it sounded like about 100dB but it’s hard to know due to the echo of the church. Would be interested to try and measure it if we get the chance on another later occasion!
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Sorry to hear that you hit upon some "clinker" churches/organists. I would think that most would be happy to help if they can.
I'll stick to my pair of Neumann M150's
More money than sense, presumably. Chacun à son goût...
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hay so i have a problem i record the piano and violin in mono and no matter how much i try it still doesn't sound that good is there any way to make a mono instrument sound, sound like stereo
can you help me with this issue because unfortunately buying a a stereo pair like the rode M5 s are not a option right now for me
thanks
If they're not sounding good in mono they won't sound much better in stereo. In my experience the room affects the sound of a violin considerably (just like the organ in this video). The rule of thumb I learnt was to put the mic off-axis to the violin about a meter away - but that's just the starting point.
Religious folk being arrogant, unfriendly tw@s?! Well I never. Peace and love to all mankind eh…
Kudos to the place that actually let you in. Great vid as always gents.
I have a bigger organ.
Grand church organs are wasted on churches.. Actually come to think of it, beautiful religious buildings are also wasted on self important intolerant forbidding religions... [I've encountered some very obnoxious Vicars and Pastors in their place of work - on the other hand I know a fundamentalist evangelical minister who despite all expectations of his specific kind and beliefs, is actually a pretty reasonable rational bloke, with a healthy sense of humour.. Funny old world...]
I used to work at my university's theater building, which had a decent pipe organ in it. I have heard many hours of practice and performance on the organ!
Now, I use a set of Klipsch loudspeakers and listen to Pipe Organ music on a regular basis. I must say, these microphones sound amazing!
Thanks for sharing!
That is a bassy cat. The recording of the church organ reminds me of what is missing in my Roland C-180 digital church organ. A big flipping place to let the sound reverberate around!