I finally listened in the studio. XY was my favorite with Mr Blokey sounding like shit. So... Should we release songs with a headphone mix and speaker mix? Imagine if there was an option on streaming platforms to choose the right mix for your listening environment...
Good intro to, and summation of, the stereo techniques, but you missed one -- AB, but with omnis, fitted with acoustic equalizers (diffraction spheres), at 50 cm, 90-100 degree splay. This yields the most stunning imaging not only left to right but equally important, front to back. With a good pair of monitors in a good room (or good phones) the 3D sense is eerie. More real and less fussy than a Decca tree, this technique also has the depth missing from the coincident approaches. Omnis let you get close to, say, an orchestra for detail, while still giving a good sense of the room. Been using this for decades with Neumann KM183s and recently Schoeps MK2H.s Never found anything better.
I have been sneaking your videos in-between the requested episodes of "Baby Shark" while spending time with my toddler and she enjoys dancing to the music in your videos as much as I enjoy the information. Keep up the great work!
The last stereo recording I did was a layered acoustic and classical guitar in M/S with a Roswell Mini K47 as the mono microphone and the Lewitt LCT640TS for the sides. Both microphones were running through a tube preamp to get a bit of extra harmonics. The result was extremely beautiful and natural, especially for the classical guitar (nearly no EQing needed).
You cannot go wrong with either one of those microphones. Both mics punch way above their weight class. I have the Roswell K47 and K87 also a Lewitt 440 pure. They are truly amazing.
I love all that amazing knowledge you can share in such an entertaining way within less than 12 minutes. Demonstrating it on a Hammond/Leslie! shows that you not only have humor but also a great taste! Thank you!
Once again Gents you have done a superb job. Clear and concise explanations with live audio examples that truly convey the differences in these microphone techniques. For this particular situation I thought the ORTF sounded perfect!
OK guys I’m having a severe problem getting quality recordings using any of these techniques. I have no idea what I could be doing wrong. I set up every microphone in exact detail as instructed in this video but no matter where I place the Behringer Vintage USB microphones. It sounds like complete bollocks. I’m stumped.
I have never tried or even considered Stereo Mic'ing, but after having seen this video I might be tempted to do something with that. Love the blend of humour and succinctly communicated information to the viewer. And yeah, also a bit a jazz wankery to swallow that concoction...
This is definitely a great intro into stereo techniques! I think this topic warrants a deep dive for sure, particularly for anyone interested in classical recording. What really blew my mind open with a lot of these techniques was when I started understand the physics behind the polar patterns and how that relates to angles, distances and frequency response. For instance ORTF/NOS are near coincidence techniques where the -3dB down points align in the center of your image (thus causing a perfectly even image from L to R). This makes XY particularly interesting for why engineers use a range from 90-137 degrees.. And then why spaced pairs/decca tree might be better for placement further from the source (ie that low frequency response....). Ok got excited and wrote too much...
Im listening to this on an Ipad Pro at the moment, and was surprised at how much I could hear the changes via mic positioning. Well done boys. I wasn’t familiar with a few of those mic configs. Can’t wait to give it a whirl. Pints all round..figuratively speaking.
Ok, so weird question, but slightly important to my workflow: James, it looks like you have an MX Keys for Mac (or not for Mac, whatever) keyboard there. How do you get the backlight to stay on? Also, we could all tell that Prof. Fukkoutavit was just someone wearing a fake beard. Our question though, is when did Flopcat learn to play the keys so well?
I don’t know how to keep the lights on as they just always stay on on mine, so I’m afraid I can’t help with that one, sorry! And yes, FlopCat is a master keyboardist jazz kitten
You can’t fool me... that so-called ‘Mark’ is in fact the Prof’ in a baldish wig and fake plastic chin. I favour the O-WTF method (just sticking a couple of mics up any old place)... the mid-sighed method (where the naff results make me expel breath with ennui)... and the ‘method’ method (where I change my name to Mike and live in padded box until needed). Nope... still can’t hear anything ‘special’ in the binaural.
As all the other comments have stated how awesome your video is, I won't bother stating the obvious! I do however have one question "Why was Mark sitting with Flop Cat on his head playing with his organ? A pussy on Mark's head + the cat tail like beard and a lab coat doesn't fool me! Also blaming Flop Cat for extraneous noises, is bad form, when it was clearly "Professor Mark" adjusting his organ!
Too much bumbling and mumbling and bullsh*t in this one, sorry. What I would've preferred though, that if you provided a simple gapless comparison after one another. Such like this: 2:19 - AB (or 'spaced pair') 3:37 - XY (or 'coincident pair' with 90° apart) 4:59 - Blumlein (or 'double figure-eight') 7:23 - MS (or 'mid-side') 8:52 - ORTF 10:59 - binaural head
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Mr. Blokey is no jokey. That sounded incredible. And kudos to the professor -great playing and a real "gas".
Great summarization of a complex and often misunderstood topic.
I listened through earphones, unsurprisingly Mr Blokey sounded the best. Will have a listen in the studio later.
I finally listened in the studio. XY was my favorite with Mr Blokey sounding like shit. So... Should we release songs with a headphone mix and speaker mix? Imagine if there was an option on streaming platforms to choose the right mix for your listening environment...
Good intro to, and summation of, the stereo techniques, but you missed one -- AB, but with omnis, fitted with acoustic equalizers (diffraction spheres), at 50 cm, 90-100 degree splay. This yields the most stunning imaging not only left to right but equally important, front to back. With a good pair of monitors in a good room (or good phones) the 3D sense is eerie. More real and less fussy than a Decca tree, this technique also has the depth missing from the coincident approaches. Omnis let you get close to, say, an orchestra for detail, while still giving a good sense of the room. Been using this for decades with Neumann KM183s and recently Schoeps MK2H.s Never found anything better.
This might possibly be the best opening 30 seconds to a video ever. Haven’t even watched it yet, just had to stop mid giggle
I have been sneaking your videos in-between the requested episodes of "Baby Shark" while spending time with my toddler and she enjoys dancing to the music in your videos as much as I enjoy the information. Keep up the great work!
Get her started on music production early! Great idea! 😂
The last stereo recording I did was a layered acoustic and classical guitar in M/S with a Roswell Mini K47 as the mono microphone and the Lewitt LCT640TS for the sides. Both microphones were running through a tube preamp to get a bit of extra harmonics. The result was extremely beautiful and natural, especially for the classical guitar (nearly no EQing needed).
You cannot go wrong with either one of those microphones. Both mics punch way above their weight class. I have the Roswell K47 and K87 also a Lewitt 440 pure. They are truly amazing.
Goodjob
Always happy to see a new video from you both!
Possibly your best yet. Highly informative and laugh out loud. I may yet be moved to send you some of my musical Vogon poetry to master.
"See if I don't!"
Glad you enjoyed it Jonathan!
Watching The Prof blow his nose in the background, and generally make noise..priceless
Good evening everyone
I love all that amazing knowledge you can share in such an entertaining way within less than 12 minutes. Demonstrating it on a Hammond/Leslie! shows that you not only have humor but also a great taste! Thank you!
Thank you, Valerie!
Great video, thanks for sharing.
They should do this again but with a drummer
Loved the professor skit WTF LOL
Once again Gents you have done a superb job. Clear and concise explanations with live audio examples that truly convey the differences in these microphone techniques. For this particular situation I thought the ORTF sounded perfect!
OK guys I’m having a severe problem getting quality recordings using any of these techniques. I have no idea what I could be doing wrong. I set up every microphone in exact detail as instructed in this video but no matter where I place the Behringer Vintage USB microphones. It sounds like complete bollocks. I’m stumped.
It might not be you. Some mics are crap.
@@phoenixmediaforge 😅
HAHAHAHAHAHAA Nicely done
@@phoenixmediaforge Check the previous video and you will get the joke :)
I have never tried or even considered Stereo Mic'ing, but after having seen this video I might be tempted to do something with that. Love the blend of humour and succinctly communicated information to the viewer. And yeah, also a bit a jazz wankery to swallow that concoction...
This is definitely a great intro into stereo techniques! I think this topic warrants a deep dive for sure, particularly for anyone interested in classical recording. What really blew my mind open with a lot of these techniques was when I started understand the physics behind the polar patterns and how that relates to angles, distances and frequency response. For instance ORTF/NOS are near coincidence techniques where the -3dB down points align in the center of your image (thus causing a perfectly even image from L to R). This makes XY particularly interesting for why engineers use a range from 90-137 degrees.. And then why spaced pairs/decca tree might be better for placement further from the source (ie that low frequency response....). Ok got excited and wrote too much...
Finally a video
a blast from the past this was, thanks guys and floppy ; )
My favorite technique is ORWTF
Well made guys, good one!
I'm off to Ali Express to buy some of those awesome stereo fartmics to record my magnum opus, "Schartmuzik für Aufzüge"
Great stuff as usual! Thank you
Gerzon Array all day!
Im listening to this on an Ipad Pro at the moment, and was surprised at how much I could hear the changes via mic positioning. Well done boys. I wasn’t familiar with a few of those mic configs. Can’t wait to give it a whirl. Pints all round..figuratively speaking.
Oooo pints!
wow
A studio cat and a jazz cat in the same room. You are very brave to risk a giant catfight.
Ok, so weird question, but slightly important to my workflow:
James, it looks like you have an MX Keys for Mac (or not for Mac, whatever) keyboard there. How do you get the backlight to stay on?
Also, we could all tell that Prof. Fukkoutavit was just someone wearing a fake beard. Our question though, is when did Flopcat learn to play the keys so well?
I don’t know how to keep the lights on as they just always stay on on mine, so I’m afraid I can’t help with that one, sorry!
And yes, FlopCat is a master keyboardist jazz kitten
It looks like the charger is plugged in which is why I think the light stays on!
@@kyrregjerstad That makes sense, thanks.
You cannot unhear these mouthfarts. So I guess, thank you?
But really some nice tips, again.
Did I miss discussion on panning for x/y, ortf and other "coincident" pairs of mics? Or is everything with these types of arrangments had pan L and R?
The sauce! 😀
Hi, great video as always. But I'm confused at 2.04, how can you make a triangle with one side longer than both others put together?
4:37 _The Royer mics of the time?_ What time is that? Did you mean RCA?
You can’t fool me... that so-called ‘Mark’ is in fact the Prof’ in a baldish wig and fake plastic chin.
I favour the O-WTF method (just sticking a couple of mics up any old place)... the mid-sighed method (where the naff results make me expel breath with ennui)... and the ‘method’ method (where I change my name to Mike and live in padded box until needed).
Nope... still can’t hear anything ‘special’ in the binaural.
Do you speak about prof T.C pfeiler at the start of the video ? 😂
First! 😎
The Hammond sounds like it needs a little oil in the ORTF clip
All the configurations ought to have been set up and recorded simultaneously using the same take.
As all the other comments have stated how awesome your video is, I won't bother stating the obvious! I do however have one question "Why was Mark sitting with Flop Cat on his head playing with his organ? A pussy on Mark's head + the cat tail like beard and a lab coat doesn't fool me! Also blaming Flop Cat for extraneous noises, is bad form, when it was clearly "Professor Mark" adjusting his organ!
Cheers Allen!
That wasn’t Mark! That was Professor Leslie D Fukkoutavit! Don’t you believe us?!
😂😂😂😂😂
I am listening on a samsung tablet and I hear no difference at all lol
Mr. brokey wins
Too much bumbling and mumbling and bullsh*t in this one, sorry.
What I would've preferred though, that if you provided a simple gapless comparison after one another. Such like this:
2:19 - AB (or 'spaced pair')
3:37 - XY (or 'coincident pair' with 90° apart)
4:59 - Blumlein (or 'double figure-eight')
7:23 - MS (or 'mid-side')
8:52 - ORTF
10:59 - binaural head
meh, also they should be gain matched O.o
Wow fart sounds