This video inadvertently demonstrates how broken the copyright claim system is... WMG have effectively decided that daring to play a drum beat to demo mic placement is fair game for a copyright claim. Is there any point playing a musical instrument on RUclips?
The song's intro is just that beat, so if anything getting matched shows how professional the results are! (just kidding, they'd put a claim on it if it was a baby banging saucepans)
I literally do nothing but practice improv while livestreaming as a way to learn how to play piano/keyboard and create music. i will generally practice for an hour making up beats and little 1-4 bar riffs... i'd say 50% of my practice sessions get SOMETHING flagged as copyright material and i have ot respond that it's all fabricated and that i cannot find ANY similarity with whatever claims the copyright. half the time, it is some weird obscure beat that it links me to with something like 20 views. it's nuts.
Oh cool, it's nice to hear them compared like that! I know they have different uses and it depends how they're mixed too, but I liked the Mid/Side one here, the spread and the tone felt really even and natural
This is a good overview but a few notes. The X/Y and Blumlein are set up incorrectly. X/Y capsules should be right on top of of each other to prevent phase cancelation at higher frequencies and the standard Blumlein has the mics at 90 degrees.
1. Awesome !!! 2. Thank you for putting the 5 examples back-to-back at the end of your video. 3. The sound of the mid-side technique reminded me of Robert Palmer’s “addicted to love”. Look it up and see if you agree with me. Thank you ladies, we need more female drummers and sound engineers. ✌️😊✌️🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
I think you tend to get better phase coherence when you stack the capsules with XY, and its also easier to setup by eye too. And this isn't really a great demonstration of the 3:1 rule with a spaced pair, because the principals of using a spaced pair on a drum set are different from the ones guiding the 3:1 rule. This demonstration would be more effective with an instrument like piano thrown in.
They are Atlas Sound SB11WE stands. The other piece is a “stereo bar”. ♥️♥️♥️ reverb.com/p/atlas-sound-sb11we-studio-boom-microphone-stand?hfid=37277957&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0K-HBhDDARIsAFJ6UGiBbulYmUAzI4C_mHG0xF_fxnMCJKel7yF9iJabddfO1I5NzBHpuDwaAnRBEALw_wcB
Honestly, while using the exact mic model is obviously ideal, as long as the sound signature is the same it works alright. The matched pair markup is kinda dishonest. Many mics already sound the same and if not, could be matched in post assuming they're around the same price point.
Looks to be a helpful video. Also anyone else find it amusing that a lot of videos talk a lot about distance between two mic’s or their source, but literally people like Glynn Johns didn’t give a crap?
I'm gonna give you all a micing trick that I discovered about 15 years ago. Put your mics at Phi points anywhere in the room and they will sound fantastic.
you want to find the golden ratio points in three dimensional space. I do this for my overheads and my room Mike’s. So hypothetically if your room was 13 feet wide by 13 feet long and had an 8 foot ceiling, and the drums are against the back wall, you could place your first room Mike 5 feet from the front wall, 5 feet from the left wall, and 5 feet off the floor. The right side room Mike would be 5 feet from the Front wall, 5 feet from the right wall, and 5 feet off the floor. As long as the three points that determine the location of the microphone diaphragm are all Fibonacci/golden ratio numbers derived from the size of your room.
This video inadvertently demonstrates how broken the copyright claim system is... WMG have effectively decided that daring to play a drum beat to demo mic placement is fair game for a copyright claim. Is there any point playing a musical instrument on RUclips?
The song's intro is just that beat, so if anything getting matched shows how professional the results are!
(just kidding, they'd put a claim on it if it was a baby banging saucepans)
I literally do nothing but practice improv while livestreaming as a way to learn how to play piano/keyboard and create music. i will generally practice for an hour making up beats and little 1-4 bar riffs...
i'd say 50% of my practice sessions get SOMETHING flagged as copyright material and i have ot respond that it's all fabricated and that i cannot find ANY similarity with whatever claims the copyright. half the time, it is some weird obscure beat that it links me to with something like 20 views. it's nuts.
For anyone wondering, the protractor phone app used is called Measure Box 🙂
Mid side - full mix/mid and sides equal volume...Bonzo in the house!
Great demonstration!
Oh cool, it's nice to hear them compared like that! I know they have different uses and it depends how they're mixed too, but I liked the Mid/Side one here, the spread and the tone felt really even and natural
This is a good overview but a few notes. The X/Y and Blumlein are set up incorrectly. X/Y capsules should be right on top of of each other to prevent phase cancelation at higher frequencies and the standard Blumlein has the mics at 90 degrees.
There is more than that. Really a sub-par video for Reverb channel.
@@SteveStockmalMusic more muchness.
Glyn Johns technique will always be my go-to (John Bonham mic technique). Rick Beato has a great video on this recording technique.
so refreshing to see women in this industry
1. Awesome !!!
2. Thank you for putting the 5 examples back-to-back at the end of your video.
3. The sound of the mid-side technique reminded me of Robert Palmer’s “addicted to love”.
Look it up and see if you agree with me.
Thank you ladies, we need more female drummers and sound engineers.
✌️😊✌️🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
mid/Side Wins
@@user-rc4re5fo2f subjective.
Without a stereo figure 8 mic how is mid-sides achieved when recording to analog tape?
I think you tend to get better phase coherence when you stack the capsules with XY, and its also easier to setup by eye too. And this isn't really a great demonstration of the 3:1 rule with a spaced pair, because the principals of using a spaced pair on a drum set are different from the ones guiding the 3:1 rule. This demonstration would be more effective with an instrument like piano thrown in.
Where can I find those overhead mic stand and dual mic holders? Or are those just regular stands with “goose necks” on them. Thanks!
They are Atlas Sound SB11WE stands.
The other piece is a “stereo bar”. ♥️♥️♥️
reverb.com/p/atlas-sound-sb11we-studio-boom-microphone-stand?hfid=37277957&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0K-HBhDDARIsAFJ6UGiBbulYmUAzI4C_mHG0xF_fxnMCJKel7yF9iJabddfO1I5NzBHpuDwaAnRBEALw_wcB
which app do you use for angle measurements?
thnx
Neumann has one
It’s an app called Measure Box 🙂
Honestly this just proves the spot mics drums are crazy important. None of the techniques where as good as the right spot mic.
Thank you. Very informative in a short time
What App.r u using at 0:56 on your phone, and, holding the 2 Mics over it? Cheers from Toronto.......RSVP....
Protractor Edge-angle measure. For iphone/ipad.
Great info and presentation, thanks and good job
Great video guys, just what I was looking for thank you!
My favorites were m/s full kit and that fantastic Chicago accent.
Honestly, while using the exact mic model is obviously ideal, as long as the sound signature is the same it works alright. The matched pair markup is kinda dishonest. Many mics already sound the same and if not, could be matched in post assuming they're around the same price point.
Looks to be a helpful video. Also anyone else find it amusing that a lot of videos talk a lot about distance between two mic’s or their source, but literally people like Glynn Johns didn’t give a crap?
amazing tutorial !! any one knows the app name that they are using to measure the distance ?
Measure Box
Thanks!
This helped a lot thanks!
Thanks for this great video.
Excellent tutorial👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍💯
deftones beat opener !!
Around the Fur!
I'm gonna give you all a micing trick that I discovered about 15 years ago. Put your mics at Phi points anywhere in the room and they will sound fantastic.
Please explain.
Phi as in…?
Fee phi fo fun !!!
you want to find the golden ratio points in three dimensional space.
I do this for my overheads and my room Mike’s.
So hypothetically if your room was 13 feet wide by 13 feet long and had an 8 foot ceiling, and the drums are against the back wall, you could place your first room Mike 5 feet from the front wall, 5 feet from the left wall, and 5 feet off the floor. The right side room Mike would be 5 feet from the Front wall, 5 feet from the right wall, and 5 feet off the floor.
As long as the three points that determine the location of the microphone diaphragm are all Fibonacci/golden ratio numbers derived from the size of your room.
@@TheWarriorSongProject wow !! Great answer, thank you so much !!!
My pleasure, give it a try and let me know how it works for you!
Thanks gals;)
I got a lot done with one stereo mic and have over thirty videos showing the process if anyone is interested.