I dont mind seeing some "futuristic stuff" in the 30s/40s style im really glad they've changed the whole style completely, even reminded me when they did the same with tf2
i'd like to see more of the "scifi stuff" be dieselpunk or some kind of soul powered technology. But with the soul vending machine that seems to be what they're going with
This just made me realize that even if Valve focuses on 1 map for Deadlock, because it's a source game and a Valve game in this format, modders can just make new maps to play for custom games. That concept alone is insane for longevity.
Oh yeah, it would be possible to do some pretty crazy stuff with mods or custom servers. Hope Valve will allow easy access to such stuff. Didn't even consider this until I read your comment, but it makes a lot of sense.
@@medicgaming5204 I actually seen a couple now and it's crazy that it's already getting started in its early stages. Makes me feel like TF2 modding back when it was first starting out. I hope it's even more smooth for modders now with source 2
@@misterk7_- i think light is part of the design, as it himts you at which side of the map you're playing. Yet, i'd love real time 24/7 cycle, just because it would give out such a cool feeling. Imagine playing at twilight or under a full moon
@@kulbar248Hard to design plus resource intensive that could generate more revenue elsewhere. That being said I would actually consider buying map skins for this game.
I have messed around a lot in Caldera_Trooper until it was removed and then modders added it back. Its a really interesting map and has some changes I wish Streets_Test had like the side lanes having more side streets. I also love wider alleys between the two middle lanes where the secret markets are. The map is really good and it makes me hope that the Deadlock Team with create multiple maps for release instead of us having a single map like other Mobas. I also dont know how many people know this but there used to be all the Neon Prime videos in the files but they got removed a while back.
Never played a moba before this, but I keep seeing people say this, how Mobas only have 1 map because that's just how it is, but this game is kind of reinventing the wheel so who can really say they won't have more maps.
@@Ktjnn While not as Big as other MOBAs, Awesomenauts supported several maps (launched with 3 and went up to 5-6 eventually depending on how you count), but it was a more casual take on the genre (plus it was a 2D platformer, where you literally have one less dimension to work with), whereas Valve is putting a lot of effort into just the one map they have so far - it would be tricky to make other maps that are both distinct and of similar depth, and it'd be hellish for both casual and competitive players to try and learn and strategize around. It'd be cool and I can totally see Valve trying, but with their high average complexity, MOBAs sticking to just one main map isn't done for no reason.
@@Ktjnn Yeah for sure the game since it takes place in the world of the lore unlike a lot of MOBA's which are like separate from the Lore it could definitely have a lot of really cool maps. They could also do a CS comp queue where you can queue for specific maps so people can play maps they like. On top of that it would also separate Deadlock even more from the MOBA's which is great.
@@Ktjnn It's not because "that's how it is," it's because these are competitive games and balancing even one map is insanely hard. We're not just talking keeping the map interesting but fair, but also the fact that every single hero added needs to be balanced for the map too. This is a hard lesson Riot learned which is why they stopped trying to balance other map types.
My hope is Valve will do a big art pass once the map layout is 100% finalized. All these details in the old maps probably made it difficult to iterate on ideas.
I would think they would just because the map keeps getting such radical changes lately. Just in the last update they widened the map and spaced the lanes out, which would have been a nightmare to move all of the art assets around in that process.
Love this development archeology stuff. Deadlock seems like such an unlikely creation that it's genesis is infinitely fascinating. A real testament to iterative design and bold decision making
Imagine the heartbreak of a project you worked so hard on failing in development and being cancelled. Then imagine seeing that project rise from the ashes and becoming THIS.
I gotta admit even tho many heroes just got imported they still fit pretty well into nows deadlock map. Maybe some excused like Bebop, Viscous and more.. But Shiv, and Wraith and many other heroes still fit soooo good.
Imo bebop kind of gives me early Sci fi vibes. Having lash and bebop be tivals seems kinda dope. Some mustachioed fighter vs an automaton built to fight is kinda dope for me personally. Deadlock is a world where magic and marvels exist and having some 1900s mechanical marvels sprinkled Here and there kind of adds to it. fallout kind of blends that old times arsthetic with high tech well, I kind of like seeing how it's done in deadlock.
Wont lie, first time i saw this channel, I thought it would be just one of 10,000 popup channels capitalizeing on the hype, but this content is qality. I clearly missjudged you guys, keep up the amazing work Just so you guys know, its entertaining enough for me to watch at 1.0 speed instead of 2x, that doesnt happen often.
The tour of the secret map is really beautiful. I'm confident that we will have different map "skins" for this game in the future. DOTA does this well. It helps keep the game fresh while it changes the scenery the map works the exact same. They have different weather effects too like rain and more. One of my favorite things about Valve games is the community support and tools their games receive. It will be exciting to see what the community comes up with in terms of different mods, maps, and maybe even an entirely different game using Deadlock as a base. Counter Strike started as a half life mod. Lets see what Deadlock inspires.
I liked the labeling and it seems like each streets is basically a part of the city's function, like Blue is the downtown/business district, yellow seems like a modern suburban, orange looks like a neo art deco rich people uptown, purple is maybe the graveyard/black market like cybernetic enhancement, I do hope that once the art pass drops for deadlock we will have these distinct districts again instead of just generic streets
As a game designer/writer, I gotta say pivoting and repurposing stuff is one of my favourite aspects of game development. It's like a puzzle, and nothing forces creativity like limitations! Kelvin having that huge tooth strapped to his back is a perfect example of this. They likely never would've thought of that had they not needed to redesign him in a way that let them maintain his old rig, silhouette, and animations.
Honestly, I think Valve can do some cool stuff with seasonal or event-style map 'skins' or whatever. Maybe even with keeping the current style in tact. It took me a little while to get used to tbh, but I kinda dig it right now
8:40 This could TOTALLY be in Deadlock honeslty. Chelsea Market is one of New York's most famous locations and it was huge in the 1950s. An indoor/underground market (maybe even just literally Chelsea Market) would fit so well and having all sorts of lights and bars and other things like that would be perfect
When I was hearing rumours about Neon Prime, all I could think was "oh joy, another generic sci-fi hero shooter." SO glad they pivoted to something WAY more original!
Im glad they changed aesthetic from neon prime to be more unique but I still love the Cyber punk look. I hope they can incorporate some of the futuristic aspects to some degree in Deadlock, I know its supposed to be in the 1930s prohibition era but come on, its a game about shooting little candle guys and killing monsters to obtain souls to upgrade your character that can be a sentient slime ball, surely there's a little room for some futuristic elements. I would love to at least see a version of Caldera in the future, its so beautiful. It really all depends on how seriously valve wants to take the tone of this game, i think depending on how they flesh out the lore it could be possible. Its also a completely fictional timeline as far as Im aware, so whos to say they didnt have what we would consider as futuristic in their 1930s.
That'd be fantastic, but you'd need to get creative if you wanted to make it as vertically dynamic as the current map. If it was mostly flat lanes, it'd just become a generic MOBA map. My pitch: Make half the lanes follow a network of caves, catacombs and sewers that go under the park. Moe and Krill lore says New York has people living underground, so you can fill them with shanty-town structures, too.
so glad they turned down the lights on the map. with some many crazy and colorful abilities going on in your average match contrast is very much needed
The current teleporter design has the advantage of being easily placeable anywhere, allowing valve to experiment with their locations frequently over the past few months. I hope they turn them into nicer and clearer locations once they decided where they'll be
I can already feel the ''1v1 me then bruhh'' coming in game. But I'd definitely use it to practise some stuff or have fun with friends (when I can find other grandpas that play this game that is)
We will def get this map (the model/layout with the base premise of how it's build,) but in the style of DeadLock we have now. Cos VALVE will not leave an almost made map unused, there were many cases of VALVE using old concept maps that were later edited and made into new maps, especially in TF2, many maps had this happen when the game was still alive. So this will defo be reused, cos it does feel different and has different layout with different buildings, ways to travel so it will be used in game. Yes technically it already is, cos it's the concept for current map, but it is still very different and I bet this will be made into another Map, with DeadLock style.
I wish valve will bring some of the verticality back and more of eye candy. Sure thing all these asian style billboards and signs dont fix thematically, but there's so man ysubstitutions, chinatown or new orleans style, lamps and candles, oracul posters with occult themeing.
Unless otherwise stated, I am sure that the current map is still just a work in progress. I expect heavy adjustments to lighting, color, texture, and theme at some point in development. It just wouldnt make sense to make detailed adjustments while they are still reconfiguring major parts of the map (example, home bases). Adding to this, there is what some called a 'hidden map' that has much different textures and lighting. I think its more of a dev sandbox for textures and map tiles. As far as I know, many (most?) characters are also going to get design changes at some point.
The Cursed Apple and all the heroes have way more "character" now, you could take a random screenshot of it & know exactly what it is, if you did that with Neon Prime it could be any game.
I wonder if theres gonna be more maps added to the game. I know moba tend to focus on single map and make small adjustment over time but I really want to see map to be added and be cycled every week or something
Some constructive feedback. I could never really place where i was in the map given all the cuts and shots with little context. Maybe more contiguous fly-throughs and points of reference in the future would be helpful.
the amount of darkness in the visual theming seems to just carry over from neon prime, which was literally set at night, i would love to play a true caldera map instead of the amalgamized version
I hope that valve will continue with multiverse lore in their games and deadlock would be another line where cascad resonance didnt happened and timeline is based around hl2
The map in deadlock is a placeholder, or atleast the art, so we arent missing anything from the old map, we are missing whats supposed to be in the latest map
The Japanese theming was sick, but just doesn't scream "Valve" to me. Glad they went with the old New York style instead. It just feels much more grounded and gritty, but most importantly - unique and cohesive.
I think what this analisis really goes to show is that deadlock is still in very early stages of development, visually wise. A lot of the areas in the map really look unfinished or same as other parts of the map.
tbh I wouldn't mind some more indication of what lane I'm in or headed to. Whether that be some more street signage near doorways or some colorization like in these old renditions of the lanes, but in the heat of moment I sometimes misread the minimap and waste a dash jump the wrong direction, and depending how late in the game you are that interruption and rotation could cost you big time
With how similar it is to Dota 2, they might just add this as a map skin that only affects aesthetics for the user, and much like Dota 2 I hope they make it sharable skin you can swap in-game as well so others can experience it for free.
Imagine all the "Heros" need to dealt with a time rift and got suck into it then got teleported to the somewhat future version (Not as Neon Prime map but just the map in the video) of the map
I love deadlocks flat washed out color. Genuinely makes my eyes want to watch and see, while the overly flashed stuff has become so overdone I can’t stand it
Cosmetically/thematically? Sure. But not when it changes the layout. The map we have is already pretty intricate and complex and hard for someone to get to grips with. If there were, say, four maps like that, it'd raise the barrier to entry so high for new players.
Still it would be nice, tho I understand why ppl would rather have only one map, but I think they should have an ARAM type of game mode it would be nice maybe some sort of twisted tree lime mode too. But for now lets work and play with what we have
I think they changed the style because the old one wasn't functional. All these colorful arcades, shops etc look great but with lots of abilities effecta it would become a total mess. On the other hand modern city design has much more gray, so colorful AoEs are visible
Cyber punk is over done so I'm happy we are getting the new York thing, can't wait to see what the map finally looks like
yeah i hope the outer map looks like the neon prime one with all the tall buildings and what not
there has been a concept art on their discord looks beautiful
yeah, we get to play new york before it's destroyed in real life. so dystopian
unfortunately no medieval theme. I wish they just bought spellbreaker and used some of it's assets
@renand3z im so sad most of the dev team was hired to work on wow expansion of all things. Need spellbreak 2 fr
I dont mind seeing some "futuristic stuff" in the 30s/40s style
im really glad they've changed the whole style completely, even reminded me when they did the same with tf2
i'd like to see more of the "scifi stuff" be dieselpunk or some kind of soul powered technology. But with the soul vending machine that seems to be what they're going with
Valve try not to go through a sci-fi phase when making a game challenge impossible
@@shadow50011 I imagine that stuff is just leftovers from neon prime that they haven’t replaced yet
@@shadow50011 Dynamo is pretty much what you described
I'm glad but I would have liked to have seen the half life version
This just made me realize that even if Valve focuses on 1 map for Deadlock, because it's a source game and a Valve game in this format, modders can just make new maps to play for custom games. That concept alone is insane for longevity.
Oh yeah, it would be possible to do some pretty crazy stuff with mods or custom servers. Hope Valve will allow easy access to such stuff. Didn't even consider this until I read your comment, but it makes a lot of sense.
There is already jump maps in deadlock
What if I told you there are custom maps rn
3vs3 and jump map are the first ones
cp_orange lesgooo
@@medicgaming5204 I actually seen a couple now and it's crazy that it's already getting started in its early stages. Makes me feel like TF2 modding back when it was first starting out. I hope it's even more smooth for modders now with source 2
I'm happy they changed it, Neon Prime didn't look bad, but Deadlock have way more personality. I would love to see the current map in night time tho
Oh man I would love a night time. I was thinking about how the map could have a day/night cycle as the match goes on.
@@misterk7_- same!
@@misterk7_- i think light is part of the design, as it himts you at which side of the map you're playing.
Yet, i'd love real time 24/7 cycle, just because it would give out such a cool feeling. Imagine playing at twilight or under a full moon
Gotta thank the Neon Prime testers that gave feedback that made valve pivot to deadlock
I would love if Valve would remake caldera_trooper in the future as an alternative, less competitive map option
YESS! More maps would be AMAZING but its so hard to design. Smite has a few "maps" 👀
@@kulbar248Hard to design plus resource intensive that could generate more revenue elsewhere. That being said I would actually consider buying map skins for this game.
very probably not but knowing the community we will play this on custom server asap they are available
they probably gonna make it like a map skin... like they did on dota 2 map skins
I have messed around a lot in Caldera_Trooper until it was removed and then modders added it back. Its a really interesting map and has some changes I wish Streets_Test had like the side lanes having more side streets. I also love wider alleys between the two middle lanes where the secret markets are. The map is really good and it makes me hope that the Deadlock Team with create multiple maps for release instead of us having a single map like other Mobas.
I also dont know how many people know this but there used to be all the Neon Prime videos in the files but they got removed a while back.
Never played a moba before this, but I keep seeing people say this, how Mobas only have 1 map because that's just how it is, but this game is kind of reinventing the wheel so who can really say they won't have more maps.
@@Ktjnn While not as Big as other MOBAs, Awesomenauts supported several maps (launched with 3 and went up to 5-6 eventually depending on how you count), but it was a more casual take on the genre (plus it was a 2D platformer, where you literally have one less dimension to work with), whereas Valve is putting a lot of effort into just the one map they have so far - it would be tricky to make other maps that are both distinct and of similar depth, and it'd be hellish for both casual and competitive players to try and learn and strategize around.
It'd be cool and I can totally see Valve trying, but with their high average complexity, MOBAs sticking to just one main map isn't done for no reason.
@@Ktjnn Yeah for sure the game since it takes place in the world of the lore unlike a lot of MOBA's which are like separate from the Lore it could definitely have a lot of really cool maps. They could also do a CS comp queue where you can queue for specific maps so people can play maps they like. On top of that it would also separate Deadlock even more from the MOBA's which is great.
How do you add it back these days?
@@Ktjnn It's not because "that's how it is," it's because these are competitive games and balancing even one map is insanely hard. We're not just talking keeping the map interesting but fair, but also the fact that every single hero added needs to be balanced for the map too.
This is a hard lesson Riot learned which is why they stopped trying to balance other map types.
My hope is Valve will do a big art pass once the map layout is 100% finalized. All these details in the old maps probably made it difficult to iterate on ideas.
Yeah I really hope so too, I prefer the new art style but comparing the new map with the old one it is missing so many smaller details
They almost certainly will, consider that the game is still in ALPHA there's a lot more to come
I would think they would just because the map keeps getting such radical changes lately. Just in the last update they widened the map and spaced the lanes out, which would have been a nightmare to move all of the art assets around in that process.
Love this development archeology stuff. Deadlock seems like such an unlikely creation that it's genesis is infinitely fascinating. A real testament to iterative design and bold decision making
Not only is the Lovecraftian Noir a way more exciting aesthetic, having the maps be dull really helps with gameplay clarity
looks like a cursed overwatch clone, smart of them to drop it
silly garry's mod map vibe
I thought the exact same thing
I like all the trees on the old map.
Yeah, the nature filled parts were nice
14:16, oh, you're the dude from the 3kliksphilipp video.
Imagine the heartbreak of a project you worked so hard on failing in development and being cancelled.
Then imagine seeing that project rise from the ashes and becoming THIS.
Also, dude, SICK text/ UI animation. Audio production and VO are also stellar.
I mean, the project wasn't ever cancelled, they just realized the artstyle wasn't working on reworked all that, but the game itself never died
For Valve devs it's another day in the work
Honestly a 1950's cursed and occult filled worlds is vastly more interested than just another sci-fi shooter
I love this history of games type stuff alot. I think neon prime looked good, but deadlock definitely has more character
I gotta admit even tho many heroes just got imported they still fit pretty well into nows deadlock map. Maybe some excused like Bebop, Viscous and more.. But Shiv, and Wraith and many other heroes still fit soooo good.
Imo bebop kind of gives me early Sci fi vibes. Having lash and bebop be tivals seems kinda dope. Some mustachioed fighter vs an automaton built to fight is kinda dope for me personally. Deadlock is a world where magic and marvels exist and having some 1900s mechanical marvels sprinkled Here and there kind of adds to it. fallout kind of blends that old times arsthetic with high tech well, I kind of like seeing how it's done in deadlock.
Bebop should be changed to a robot powered by diesel engine. They shouldn't radically change the design because he's already iconic.
@@n_core they're actually redesigning him soon. His portrait picture is a painting of his new design and he's going to be a magitech scrap golem
Most got changed for deadlock though
The only ones that havent changed are yamato, bebop, grey talon and viscous
@@crabot iirc even yamato has been confirmed that they will change her design. Most things are still placeholder.
Cool video, appreciate the dual comparison shots and recreation shots from old footage.
Wont lie, first time i saw this channel, I thought it would be just one of 10,000 popup channels capitalizeing on the hype, but this content is qality. I clearly missjudged you guys, keep up the amazing work
Just so you guys know, its entertaining enough for me to watch at 1.0 speed instead of 2x, that doesnt happen often.
The tour of the secret map is really beautiful. I'm confident that we will have different map "skins" for this game in the future. DOTA does this well. It helps keep the game fresh while it changes the scenery the map works the exact same. They have different weather effects too like rain and more. One of my favorite things about Valve games is the community support and tools their games receive. It will be exciting to see what the community comes up with in terms of different mods, maps, and maybe even an entirely different game using Deadlock as a base. Counter Strike started as a half life mod. Lets see what Deadlock inspires.
Truly I hope to see the ability to choose other maps. I love the current map, but my god is old caldera gorgeous.
I liked the labeling and it seems like each streets is basically a part of the city's function, like Blue is the downtown/business district, yellow seems like a modern suburban, orange looks like a neo art deco rich people uptown, purple is maybe the graveyard/black market like cybernetic enhancement, I do hope that once the art pass drops for deadlock we will have these distinct districts again instead of just generic streets
very secret omgggg def didnt see it by myself
As a game designer/writer, I gotta say pivoting and repurposing stuff is one of my favourite aspects of game development. It's like a puzzle, and nothing forces creativity like limitations!
Kelvin having that huge tooth strapped to his back is a perfect example of this. They likely never would've thought of that had they not needed to redesign him in a way that let them maintain his old rig, silhouette, and animations.
6:05 You bet! Caldera looks absolutely delightful, so much better than Neon Prime's initial vision.
yeah
I like the plants and old architecture combined with futuristic
Honestly, I think Valve can do some cool stuff with seasonal or event-style map 'skins' or whatever. Maybe even with keeping the current style in tact. It took me a little while to get used to tbh, but I kinda dig it right now
For any fans of Deadlock's artstyle, I suggest looking into the comic "Atomic Robo," especially the parts that take place in the 30s/40s.
Neon Prime's aesthetic reminds me of Neotokyo, a cult classic Half-Life mod. Imagine if Valve ever made Neotokyo 2?
8:40 This could TOTALLY be in Deadlock honeslty. Chelsea Market is one of New York's most famous locations and it was huge in the 1950s. An indoor/underground market (maybe even just literally Chelsea Market) would fit so well and having all sorts of lights and bars and other things like that would be perfect
they did such a good job on this game man. how refreshing
I love the japanese techno cult cyberpunk style that Caldera_trooper looked in this version. It feels MUCH better than the original neon prime.
When I was hearing rumours about Neon Prime, all I could think was "oh joy, another generic sci-fi hero shooter."
SO glad they pivoted to something WAY more original!
This looks hella good. Bravo to the devs and designers
The graveyard is a really cool setting for a lane.
man.. that map was so heavily developed that and become more pleasing to look at.
i can't wait to see how deadlock map will be more developed too.
Im glad they changed aesthetic from neon prime to be more unique but I still love the Cyber punk look. I hope they can incorporate some of the futuristic aspects to some degree in Deadlock, I know its supposed to be in the 1930s prohibition era but come on, its a game about shooting little candle guys and killing monsters to obtain souls to upgrade your character that can be a sentient slime ball, surely there's a little room for some futuristic elements. I would love to at least see a version of Caldera in the future, its so beautiful. It really all depends on how seriously valve wants to take the tone of this game, i think depending on how they flesh out the lore it could be possible. Its also a completely fictional timeline as far as Im aware, so whos to say they didnt have what we would consider as futuristic in their 1930s.
God I hope we get a Central Park map for deadlock
That'd be fantastic, but you'd need to get creative if you wanted to make it as vertically dynamic as the current map. If it was mostly flat lanes, it'd just become a generic MOBA map.
My pitch: Make half the lanes follow a network of caves, catacombs and sewers that go under the park. Moe and Krill lore says New York has people living underground, so you can fill them with shanty-town structures, too.
this video reads like a 2010s uk documentary into something obscure and i kinda love it?
love the mega64 t-shirt king
so glad they turned down the lights on the map. with some many crazy and colorful abilities going on in your average match contrast is very much needed
The current teleporter design has the advantage of being easily placeable anywhere, allowing valve to experiment with their locations frequently over the past few months. I hope they turn them into nicer and clearer locations once they decided where they'll be
i hope they add more maps with diffirent objectives for winning the game like HotS
Nah
I remember I used to play against bots on caldera trooper because i had a cracked version of deadlock back when invites were rare as hell
Bruh i'm so glad they finally decided on this current art style. Retro steampunk & paranormal couldn't be bested 👌👌🤌🤌🤌
Its beautiful in first person.
Theres also another map called map 1v1_test that I think is a 1v1 map thats really cool
I can already feel the ''1v1 me then bruhh'' coming in game. But I'd definitely use it to practise some stuff or have fun with friends (when I can find other grandpas that play this game that is)
I wouldn't mind seeing different themes in Deadlock. Some of those old visuals looks quite neat. It would be a shame if it's all lost.
We will def get this map (the model/layout with the base premise of how it's build,) but in the style of DeadLock we have now. Cos VALVE will not leave an almost made map unused, there were many cases of VALVE using old concept maps that were later edited and made into new maps, especially in TF2, many maps had this happen when the game was still alive. So this will defo be reused, cos it does feel different and has different layout with different buildings, ways to travel so it will be used in game. Yes technically it already is, cos it's the concept for current map, but it is still very different and I bet this will be made into another Map, with DeadLock style.
Just hope the map now is more colorfull and brighter too
Lot of DOTA/TF2 inspiration in its map design here
I wish valve will bring some of the verticality back and more of eye candy. Sure thing all these asian style billboards and signs dont fix thematically, but there's so man ysubstitutions, chinatown or new orleans style, lamps and candles, oracul posters with occult themeing.
looks far better than the actual map
that menu theme goes hard
Unless otherwise stated, I am sure that the current map is still just a work in progress. I expect heavy adjustments to lighting, color, texture, and theme at some point in development. It just wouldnt make sense to make detailed adjustments while they are still reconfiguring major parts of the map (example, home bases). Adding to this, there is what some called a 'hidden map' that has much different textures and lighting. I think its more of a dev sandbox for textures and map tiles.
As far as I know, many (most?) characters are also going to get design changes at some point.
The Cursed Apple and all the heroes have way more "character" now, you could take a random screenshot of it & know exactly what it is, if you did that with Neon Prime it could be any game.
i like that we have got 50`s new york action, and not another cyber punk shooter
I LOVE CALDERA_TROOPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if theres gonna be more maps added to the game.
I know moba tend to focus on single map and make small adjustment over time but I really want to see map to be added and be cycled every week or something
Wow this map would still fit imo
Some constructive feedback. I could never really place where i was in the map given all the cuts and shots with little context. Maybe more contiguous fly-throughs and points of reference in the future would be helpful.
👾 Caldera 👾 Caldera 👾 Caldera 👾
It would be cool if we could still play it, or if not this one other alternate maps
could be cool if this theme could be released as a map skin in the future
the amount of darkness in the visual theming seems to just carry over from neon prime, which was literally set at night, i would love to play a true caldera map instead of the amalgamized version
I love how they colored the lane, the lane color now is minim
I hope that valve will continue with multiverse lore in their games and deadlock would be another line where cascad resonance didnt happened and timeline is based around hl2
oh wow, neon prime was a lot more advanced in development than actual deadlock is, specially in map details.
Yeah, they changed it in the last minute because playtesters didn't really vibe with the theme. It's for the better though
The map in deadlock is a placeholder, or atleast the art, so we arent missing anything from the old map, we are missing whats supposed to be in the latest map
The Japanese theming was sick, but just doesn't scream "Valve" to me. Glad they went with the old New York style instead. It just feels much more grounded and gritty, but most importantly - unique and cohesive.
i'm sad that we lost a lot of the verticality of mid. it looks like so much fun
Jackie is giving BM1 of Deadlock
Imagine... Neon Prime...
I love haze v1
I think what this analisis really goes to show is that deadlock is still in very early stages of development, visually wise. A lot of the areas in the map really look unfinished or same as other parts of the map.
im glad they changed it to 30s occult style
Wish they kept the park, and imo map should be at least 30-40% bigger. It literally takes 10 seconds to gank another lane by foot.
tbh I wouldn't mind some more indication of what lane I'm in or headed to. Whether that be some more street signage near doorways or some colorization like in these old renditions of the lanes, but in the heat of moment I sometimes misread the minimap and waste a dash jump the wrong direction, and depending how late in the game you are that interruption and rotation could cost you big time
The old map reminds me a lot of Splatoon
With how similar it is to Dota 2, they might just add this as a map skin that only affects aesthetics for the user, and much like Dota 2 I hope they make it sharable skin you can swap in-game as well so others can experience it for free.
Wow this is really cool, how do you gain access to these maps?
Why does it look like Pyrovision version of the map
Thanks for the vid!
How can we access 3D model files for Deadlock and previous iterations?
I really wish they add some of the old models as cosmetics
it looks like it was trying to look like overwatch at first.
I love the caldera more
i really hope they do map skins like in Dota2, that would be incredible
i hope we can get a calderas map skin just like in dota
itd be kinda cool if they pulled a fornite and just cannonically changed the map to this later on due game lore
Imagine all the "Heros" need to dealt with a time rift and got suck into it then got teleported to the somewhat future version (Not as Neon Prime map but just the map in the video) of the map
I love deadlocks flat washed out color. Genuinely makes my eyes want to watch and see, while the overly flashed stuff has become so overdone I can’t stand it
This is why i think they should have multiple maps. Most shooters have multiple maps and it's the perfect mashup of genres to have a multi map moba
Cosmetically/thematically? Sure.
But not when it changes the layout. The map we have is already pretty intricate and complex and hard for someone to get to grips with.
If there were, say, four maps like that, it'd raise the barrier to entry so high for new players.
@@theSatoalmost every game has multiple maps, deadlock should too
@@Patchess Most MOBAs only have one map though, and the foundation of Deadlock is the MOBA genre
Still it would be nice, tho I understand why ppl would rather have only one map, but I think they should have an ARAM type of game mode it would be nice maybe some sort of twisted tree lime mode too. But for now lets work and play with what we have
I wouldn't expect any new maps till they're happy with the characters and gameplay.
When will they add Levels and Ranked matches?
This old Caldera_Trooper version is older than the 2024 April/May version that I have. Can I get it somewhere?
you have an april version of deadlock ??
@@angelash8998the May leaked version of Deadlock has caldera_trooper as its main map and there's no street_test which you have to copy manually
@@nicoleuswhite2192 I thought the person was trying to imply they had an April build 😭
@@angelash8998 yes its when most people started to get into the testing.
Waiting for map pool in this game
Will they’ve adding other modes later. Like single lane double lane. Or like an Odins revenge or arena in smite etc. thanks.
It's also seems more finished
I think they changed the style because the old one wasn't functional. All these colorful arcades, shops etc look great but with lots of abilities effecta it would become a total mess. On the other hand modern city design has much more gray, so colorful AoEs are visible
Caldera Trooper is the name of the Candle Creeps is it not? It doesn't seem like a map name at all. How do we know the map wasnt just called Caldera?
as cool as Neon Prime looks, im very happy they stuck with the occult noir theme
Caldera looks like mobile game, then they reinvented to PC game