Reminds me of my former upline. A couple of her children were removed and went to live with dad which is interesting since it’s hard for dads to get custody but of course when I signed up I got her story about how bad he was. Some of these “ladies” are something else! She was also high up in Paparazzi and getting welfare checks or so we heard. Yet telling us how much she was making the whole time. 🙄
I saved my coworkers from getting roped into primerica, because of your videos. We had a new guy and he immediately tried recruiting me and a few other people. I started warning everyone what primerica was and let them know how much money they’d lose. Nobody has signed up under him and now he’s stopped trying. Thank you for your videos
My grandma still has policies through Primerica and they're so trash. I keep telling her she would get a better policy by looking into actual life insurance companies but she's paid into these policies for so many years that she won't stop now
It’s amazing that someone who could make ‘so much money’ in an ‘opportunity’ had to get the dreaded job they always speak horribly about. Thank you for saving your coworkers. Hopefully he gets out too! I’m sure the guy got roped in and doesn’t see how problematic it is yet.
I mean term life policies are great if you're young and healthy, but you should never purchase them if you're older, it's a waste of money. anyone serious about helping people financially would never sell anyone over 45 term life insurance
Story 3 makes me so mad! All victims should have gone to the police to give more gravity to the complaint of the person whose benefits were taken away because of this fraud.
Sounds like she tricked them into signing something. Police are probably going to say it's a civil, sue her. I don't know the laws in China, but this lady was smart to trick them into signing. It's infuriating because they trusted her... I can't imagine doing that to a complete stranger much less a friend! Shame on her, she definitely deserves jail time!
It happened in Hong Kong, remember? Hong Kong, like many Asian countries, has a lot of corrupted police officers and government officials. People have to pay under table money to make the police take action. I have lived in several cities in Asia, and the level of corruption sometimes just inhuman, like some of these MLM horror stories. A friend of mine was asked some amount of money by the police because she was a witness in a theft case. A witness! Also there was a case when firefighters refused to take action before the owner of a burnt house pay them some money. The owner lost a young child in the fire because of that.
WAIT GOLD CANYON WAS AN MLM?????? We used to do Gold Canyon Candles fundraisers for orchestra in high school, where we'd get a catalogue and buy some, and then a portion of the money went to our program during the fundraiser time. I used to LOVE the clean linen candle. My whole life has been a lie 😩
As someone who lost my dad to cancer because he couldn't do a second round of chemo, the young living story makes my blood BOIL. How DARE someone tell a person who is responding well to treatment that the oils can cure them?!
Uuhhhhh Kangen water, I was once approached by a Kangen agent(?) saying that feeding my cats with Kangen water will make them healthier and encourage fluffy and bushy fur growth. My 2 cats are domestic short hair breed, there is no way in the world that they can suddenly turn to Maine Coon by drinking some magic water
My dad died of lung cancer. That story about the mom who had breast cancer hit me pretty hard. That’s a perfect example of why I hate the oil MLMs the most. They are so dangerous and I’ve heard way too many stories similar to that one.
The one with the daughter with a heart defect breaks my heart. My son was born with two different heart defects. One being hypoplastic left heart syndrome which means his left side of his heart was smaller than the right side. The other is heterotaxy. By itself it's not that bad but with another defect can make it worse. His aorta pump came in on the wrong side, he was born with out a spleen and the valve that went from his heart to his lungs didn't develop. The doctors told me that there is nothing that I did to cause it but bring his mother I felt like I did something wrong even though I didn't . For that Arbonne lady to convince that poor woman that it would help the baby makes me so sad. I really hope that she gets out before she gets herself into too much debt. my son thankfully survived 9 open heart surgeries and a heart transplant I can't imagine what that mother is going through losing her baby.
My son has a murmur a leak in his aortic valve and vsd. I wish they would have did surgery as a newborn because now he’s 7 and while it hasn’t gotten worse it hasn’t gotten better either
My daughter was also born with hypoplastic left heart syndrome ❤❤❤ no heterotaxy. That story really stuck with me and made me mad as well. My daughter passed away after her Glenn surgery. She had the fontan hybrid first so the Glenn was a bit more involved. 😢 knowing how vulnerable heart moms and angel moms are it’s upsetting
My mom got "approached" by an mlm on Facebook, she seemed interested until they said that she had to buy the products to resell them. She never backed up faster from an "opportunity".
We recently found out my fiancée has cancer. We’re doing ok even financially for now. I have been in multiple mlm’s but won’t ever join another one. Thanks to you, CC Suarez, Savannah Marie and others. I DARE a hun to approach us. It won’t be pretty. Lol
While watching your MLM top fails #53, I came up with this: To the tune of the song from Beauty and the Beast: Tale as old as time, scams to say the least. We are not prepared, and we're kind of scared. MLM products. Many side effects, and oh the expense! We are not prepared, and we're kind of scared. MLM products. Trying to branch out, trying to make more, trying something new, trying to get you, Oh this is a bore. Tale as old as time, is this really sane? They are no experts, and this really hurts, Just stay in your lane! These MLM Huns, act with bad conduct, we are not prepared, and we're kind of scared, MLM products. We are not prepared, and we're kind of scared, MLM Products.
The cancer story reminds me of something that happened in my country some years ago. The story even made it to multiple magazines. A woman got diagnosed with breast cancer and soon after she got interested in holistic and natural alternatives. MLM's were never named, but I can't help but think that they must have been involved in some way. She began ordering oils, including cbd, from abroad. She would only take advice from her new, mostly american friends. Her mom and doctors begged her to agree to at least some of the medical treatments, but she kept refusing. If I remember correctly, she even travelled abroad to attend some kind of a holistic/spiritual retreat despite her declining health. Unfortunately she d1ed, and left behind her 10 year old son. Her mother was absolutely devastated and has been sharing the story on women's magazines in the hopes of saving someone else. I understand how these things happen in the US and other countries where healthcare is ridiculously expensive and people are desperate to find cheaper alternatives. But healthcare in our country is reliable, high quality and relatively inexpensive, many medications and treatments are partially or fully covered by the government and social security. I just can't understand how someone would not only risk their own life, but also take the risk of their small child losing a parent like this 😔
For the Kangen water story, most likely she was at a level that it would benefit her more for her downlines to "promote" than for her to make the sale. Sometimes they require downlines at a certain level for them to get certain bonuses.
I haven't even watched it yet but the using oils to *treat" Cancer makes me furious especially since my mom tragically has stage 4 cancer. It's pure agony knowing I will loose her to it (I genuinely am struggling emotionally to cope so many tears have been shed). So the fact that these fools try to play G-d (you will be cured) out of pure ignorance which is doubtful but some really are that stupidly optimistic, or *just* to make a sale kills me because cancer is no joke! 😣😞
My parents were in amway years ago, they signed me up for a while (i was 18) and sadly, my mother still believes that amway isn't a scam, despite how much money and time they wasted on "the business" It genuinely makes me sad that my mom blames herself for their failure.
What bothers me (well alot bothers me but) is that people claim teachers make too much. Yet teachers are targeted heavily by mlms BECAUSE they don't make enough.
Who the hell say teachers make too much?🤦🏼♀️ Teaching, like a tenured college professor, has one of the best job security in the job market. But it was compensated by making just a decent amount of money. A CEO, on the other hand, make a lot of money. But it is usually short-term contract based (1 or 2 years, then reviewed annually), and one of the most stressful jobs in the world.
As a daughter who was born with serious heart issues. I'm grown and doing great now. I heard my mom say many times she felt like she did something bad while she was pregnant with me and she felt like she didn't don enough after I was born. She did do everything even quitting her job so she could be with me 24/7. So I couldn't think of someone taking advantage of my mom when she was in that state caring for me while "blaming" herself.
Thank you so much for your content. My dog was recently diagnosed with cancer. It has been really hard. But for whatever reason, your videos have really helped in my anticipatory grief. Thank you.
I'd sue tf out of Young Living if I was that daughter. So tragic. Edit. That story made me want to cry. And it made me remember that a dear friend of mine got into Doterra when her father was dying of cancer. She was so convinced that rubbing certain oils on his feet would help and her desperation really broke my heart. She is now in a new one. Modere. And again no surprise that somebody preyed on her when yet again somebody very close to her in her family was having serious health issues. They used a lot of faith manipulation to get her to join as well.
When you've seen every single MLM video on this channel and you're scrolling through RUclips and you're like wait... I don't remember this title. 42 MINS AGO?!!! Let me go make some tea...
I’m a teacher in Canada, specifically Alberta, where teachers are very well paid, and I know several teachers who are, or have been, involved in MLM organizations. The pay is great for teachers here, but the stress and overwork are through the roof. I think that the desire or prospect of being your own boss, as well as the tantalizing idea of becoming fabulously wealthy, just take over some people’s minds.
Wow that second story with a heart defect broke me. That happened to me over 11 years ago. My daughter had the same or similar condition of “half of a heart” this boils my blood. Preying on a woman who had a sick child and then lost a child. So messed up.
There are a lot of areas in the US where tap water is not safe to drink. I'm curious if those areas have been targeted by the Kangan water filter people.
I watch/listen to your videos driving for my job everyday, this story about a mom losing a young child and being preyed on has me a grown man crying in my vehicle.
Honestly! Even if the mother's own health decisions caused the baby's health condition, that kind of grief and guilt does not need to be compounded on that mother. Many people who have given birth to children that were affected by their own choices were in some way a victim during said pregnancy, and the added shaming will likely keep them in that place of victimization.
My son was born with half a heart as well. It's breaks my heart someone pray on someone in so much pain. Mlms really bring out the worst in people and show people's true colours.
OMG, that YL story makes me SO FURIOUS!! WTF is wrong with people?? I honestly hope the family went after the rep legally because holy shit, there needs to be consequences for that
Hi Hannah, just wanted to thank you for your content. I’m ashamed but I was in an MLM when I was just 20 years old. I “worked so hard” but barely got anywhere. Your videos are so educational! Thank you for your factual and compassionate approach. I’ve learned so much about how these companies really work and I wish I knew all this years ago!!!
i hope you can let go of that shame! someone took advantage of your youth and naïveté. what matters is that you learned from that experience and got out.
My 4 year old was recently diagnosed with a rare epilepsy syndrome and I’m waiting for the day done spews some crap about airborne helping with seizures. I will actually lose it! I feel so bad for that poor girl feeling like she’s the blame for her daughters diagnosis 😭😭 it literally breaks my heart!
As a retired primary school teacher, the teacher story hurt my heart too. I can’t believe any teacher would behave like that but I know lots of teachers are disengaged. It’s not right, students have a right to learn. They only get limited time for their education and we don’t have the right to waste it. Sorry, for the mini rant! Thanks for a great video. Hugs to you and Zeke and Cooper!❤
I wish a friend of the grieving mother would start a fundraiser, GoFundMe, donation channel, etc. and give the proceeds to the mother. I can’t imagine! 💔
I'm a teacher educator fascinated by teachers like the one in this story. I worked with them. I've been scanning the internet for examples for research. Thanks for this great story. Wow!
This is not the first time I heard of young living and cancer. I fully believe that rep told the person’s mother that the oils would cure her. The reason why is that when I worked at a retirement home, the daughter of a resident was a young living seller and had convinced her parent that she cured her skin cancer with essential oils.
I've had two family members pass from cancer in my lifetime, another passed before I was born, and my own mom survived and kicked cancer's ass- the second to last story infuriates me because I've been there. The amount of oily huns that ooze their way out of the woodwork when they hear someone has cancer or any other illness or disease is astronomical. I hate that they prey on people who've become ill, whether they have good intentions or not. It's such a bold stance to take that they think they know better than people who have dedicated their lives to fighting these diseases and some damn oil is going to cure someone of it better than the actual treatments. My heart goes out to the family from that story.
I’m loving how the teacher was clearly staying at her REAL job because she wanted/needed REAL benefits and a steady paycheck, while playing around with Lularoe. Ma’am, you can’t have it both ways! (And you just KNOW she was probably all over social media, lying about how her stupid MLM was paying so well and allowing her to live the good life. 🙄)
I think the teacher gives all of her students full marks or almost full marks so nobody report her. That's very smart of her. If I were her student, I definitely would gladly keep my mouth shut in exchange of a better mark than I usually get.
Hannah, I actually started by watching your horror story videos, and I really resonated with your level of compassion and respect for the subjects of the stories. Honestly I didn't even realize how sassy and eye-rolly (it's a Good thing) you can be until I branched out into your other videos! I really appreciate both sides of your content, as well as your no nonsense, logic first approach to the subject matter. You were actually the first anti-MLM content creator I watched (RUclips randomly suggested you to me, I still have no idea why) and while I now watch others and fully appreciate them too, you're still my favourite because you come with facts, research, and a constant focus on the systemic nature of the problem of MLMs. I'm so glad you overcame the 'there are already so many good creators in this space' voice in your head and started in anti-MLM because you've definitely connected with me and expanded my knowledge about how truly disturbing MLMs are and how they can inspire the vilest of actions. Hope you're doing amazingly and you're enjoying your holiday season! ❤️
Hannah, I think your commentary on the last story was spot on. I've been listening to teaching podcasts and related commentary and most news sources say that somewhere over 50% of teachers have considered quitting in the last 5 years (can't remember the statistic exactly but it was staggeringly high). It would not surprise me if that teacher was looking for a way out of a job that doesn't pay her what she's worth and was promised that LuLaRoe was that out.
I have been a teacher for 20 years. I have known more than a few fellow teachers who have quit their jobs because MLMs were offered as a way out. It’s sad. They usually come back to teaching once they go into debt and their MLM “opportunity” doesn’t pan out.
A note on Enagic: according to Anna’s Analysis and her research about Kangen water, Enagic only has one filter for chlorine, and doesn’t filter out heavy metals, volatile organics, or salt. I know not many people here would be tempted to buy from Enagic, but that’s an important detail about the filtration.
Hannah just giving up on explaining the Kangen water compensation plan is a mood. I've seen the explanation video on Always Marco and it took him over an hour and I would still not be able to explain it myself.
About the Kagen water story… I don’t know in Hong Kong, but in Canada, the first 12 000$ or so, we don’t pay taxes on it. And we don’t have to do a tax report either.
A couple months ago I sent in a story and even included a link I think might be helpful and very telling into the MLM I was in previously and what we were told to do. Scripts and stuff like that. Im hoping it went through
I’m sure it did! All MLM Horror Stories get filtered into a special folder in my inbox so they’re kept safe and not accidentally deleted. I’ve got over 1000 stories currently so I’m sure it’s there, I just haven’t had a chance to read it yet. Thank you for sending one in! ❤️
@@HannahAlonzo hey! Thanks so much for your reply! Wow 1000 is a lot, I love listening/watching your videos, keep up the amazing work! Sending love and happy holidays
As a momma of 4 gorgeous girls, I can say you are going to love it 💕 my second born was born with a vsd (a hole between the chambers of her heart). It did close on its own by 6 months, but she's still so dainty, like a 7 year old little fairy. She's smaller than her 5 year old sister. With the number of things that can and do go wrong in pregnancy or a child's life, this is disgustingly predatory and cruel. I hope that momma heals ❤️🩹 and again, congratulations on your lil beauty Hannah!
I hope the 2nd storyteller knows that their friend will eventually see through the fog, and I hope the friend knows she's not alone in this struggle or the grief. I was the child in a very similar situation(heart murmur I didn't grow out of), and after my surgery I was in the ICU with a kid who was born with 3/4 of a heart(I hope he's ok to this day). I can tell you that our conditions were not brought on by our moms' health choices, we just had unlucky rolls of the dice when it came to our hearts and were among the lucky few who made it long enough. I hope she heals from this loss and knows she did everything right 🧡
I think Michelle knows exactly what she did. It doesn't matter that the comp plan makes it more adventageous to sign people up under you. She is culpable and should be punished legally. The butterfly effect of her actions probably can't even be quantified. Just awful.
I knew the water company wasn't necessary, but I didn't know it was an MLM. There's an actual store in my area. I know a couple that started letting ppl come try it and sold the water by the gallon! I actually bought a few. Now they have a store selling the machines and water. Wow you can always learn something new.
having a loved one go through cancer treatment is hard enough. so i cant even fathom how painful and heartbreaking it would be to watch them get lured by the false promises of these mlm quacks and stop cancer treatment for something that doesnt actually treat cancer. im so mad for that person in story 4. those mlm reps literally killed their mother with their negligence and predatory and greedy actions imho
Hi Hannah, I'm commenting way after this video came out but wanted to say something since the young living story really hit me too. I am currently getting my PhD in cancer biology, and have seen many people go through the same thing with their loved ones. Chemotherapy and radiation work by trying to kill off the cancer cells in greater abundance than killing off healthy cells but because these therapies mostly target cells that divide rapidly, a lot of healthy cells in our gut lining and other areas tend to get hit hard too...which is unfortunately why nausea is so common, as you mentioned. We are always trying to work on finding better treatments that are more targeted and cause less side effects to the patients, but it is slow going. I would encourage anyone who is going through a similar situation with a loved one to make sure that they are discussing any holistic options with their oncologist - both so that their loved one feels that they are exploring all of their options but also so that the oncologist can consider any possible interactions that may occur between any ingested holistics and chemotherapy. Sending lots of love to the subscriber who submitted that story and hoping that their family has been able to find some peace and closure ❤
The cancer story is horrific. I hope the family will contact a good personal injury lawyer. These people (the sellers) don't listen until the pain they cause to people results in financial pain to themselves. The seller and the company should learn that they aren't qualified to give medical advice to anyone, especially to someone who is so vulnerable. It constitutes elder abuse (physical, emotional, financial) in some states. It will continue until they learn the hard way that what they are doing is wrong. My heart goes out to this family who had to watch their loved one suffer. 💕
I just don’t understand. “Make your own hours” “be home with your family” “you don’t even have to work so hard” then the shame kicks in. “Why aren’t you at the thrice weekly tele-meeting at 5 pm?” “You are trying hard enough” “you need to go to this conference in Vegas, who cares about your BFF’s wedding” No thanks 40 hours a week. Get paid days off AND I’m not being expected to post on instagram while down with the panini.
We’ve had a rep here at my office the last few days from our HQ (trying to see what they can automate). In the supervisor mentioning migraines during break, the rep mentioned, not 1, but 2 MLMs that she buys from for her “migraine kit”: Dotera and Young Living. Dear lord.
This video is the courage I needed to clean up after Christmas lol. Thank you for the amazing video as always Hannah. Hope you had an amazing Christmas 🎄
Story 4 had me crying and wishing the worst to the lot of them, especially the distributor essentially responsible for the mother's death that could've possibly been prevented or her degeneration slowed down. How cruel and disgusting. They should be held accountable (and burn in hell). So heartbreaking. 😢
Story 2 brought me to tears. I can't even imagine. I don't wish the death of a child, no matter the age, on my worst enemy. The audacity of some people.
My guess is that the water filter seller would get benefits from the MLM but also be able to declare taxes under a lower income bracket thus saving herself a pretty penny and leaving the tax bill for her victims 😖
My husband's family used to live in Hong Kong before the changeover in 1997, but at the time, everyone paid tax, regardless of income, as a flat rate. I think it was 12% or 15%...something like that. So even if you only earned $200 in a year, you'd have to pay a percentage to the government in tax. How this rep didn't know that is beyond me.
The MLM hun BLAMING the mom for her daughters heart issue is the exact reason why they get blocked on site if they reach out to me. That is absolute garbage behavior 15:07
The moment I was diagnosed with cancer, people including family members came out of the woodwork to advise me concerning their essential oil cancer cures. They must think that I am an idiot.
As a trained holistic therapist (6 years of various accredited courses), I despise the bs that people will tell vulnerable people to sell overpriced, ethically questionable products. It infuriates me, yes complimentary therapies can be used ALONGSIDE medicine but never instead of, it’s in the name- complimentary.
Have you ever thought about doing a deep dive on Shanann Watts' relationship with MLM and how it affected their family? People have touched on it here & there and I've always found it fascinating... not saying at all it was any excuse for what happened to her of course. It clearly was an issue in their family tho. I've never seen it dealt with in any other way but as a very cursory mention. I would love to see someone really explore the whole topic. I admit I haven't checked (and I will) but if you haven't I hope you'll consider it.
I am so enraged by the second story!!! My son was also born with only half heart, he had a heart transplant when he was just two months old and he's seven years old now. He also had a head surgery and he is autistic. If someone told me that it's my poor health decisions that caused all of this I would now be in prison for murd3r! And telling that poor mother that those stupid Arbonne supplements could help her daughter... Sure dude, give your kid these and her heart will magically be whole! Like who the hell does that?!!!!
My brother took me to a recruitment conference for Melaleuca. I had never really heard of MLM's but my 20-yr-old gut yelled at me "Don't do it!" I have a former coworker who sells Amway and bragged about the products. I did buy a few things, which I did like, but were definitely overpriced when I could've purchased better products from Ulta. She has "mentors" that coach her and she is definitely immersed in her "business." I don't think she is honest about where she is (financially). She left a full-time government job with amazing benefits to do this full time, so maybe??... still, not my thing at all. I could never sleep at night selling products to people I love that I knew were overpriced or unnecessary.
Have you you heard of Forex? My husband told me about someone trying to recruit him for it if you’d like a story. But it’s a currency exchange that people from a thing called IM Academy (MLM) try to recruit people to even though it’s an independent thing.
Probably not your prototypical viewer, but I gotta say (ZERO CREEP FACTOR) I love your channel. Your videos have helped me slog through many work days of drudgery. Thank you and Happy New Year! LOL!
Oh hell yeah, someone from my city of Hong Kong. Kangen is kind of one of the mlms that we have here, and most homes have a water filtration machine since we can't drink tap water directly most times. Other mlms I've seen here are Amway and Young Living.
I don’t know if gold canyon an MLM or not. I live in Arizona and Gold Canyon is actually the name of a city here and I have met the lady who created the company and we used to sell them for fundraisers at our school and when I was in cheerleading for new equipment & things like that, and we would sell them to our friends and family and whatever we sold, we would get certain prizes for it, which is another type of business model (kind of like selling Girl Scout cookies in a way), but I don’t know if it’s technically an MLM or not.
Honestly that first story. “She had numerous lawsuits, divorces, child removed from her custody but ‘I trusted her’.” Why?!
Reminds me of my former upline. A couple of her children were removed and went to live with dad which is interesting since it’s hard for dads to get custody but of course when I signed up I got her story about how bad he was. Some of these “ladies” are something else! She was also high up in Paparazzi and getting welfare checks or so we heard. Yet telling us how much she was making the whole time. 🙄
I definitely give people the side eye when they have their kids taken away that's for sure
I saved my coworkers from getting roped into primerica, because of your videos. We had a new guy and he immediately tried recruiting me and a few other people. I started warning everyone what primerica was and let them know how much money they’d lose. Nobody has signed up under him and now he’s stopped trying. Thank you for your videos
I hope he quit too.
My grandma still has policies through Primerica and they're so trash. I keep telling her she would get a better policy by looking into actual life insurance companies but she's paid into these policies for so many years that she won't stop now
It’s amazing that someone who could make ‘so much money’ in an ‘opportunity’ had to get the dreaded job they always speak horribly about. Thank you for saving your coworkers. Hopefully he gets out too! I’m sure the guy got roped in and doesn’t see how problematic it is yet.
@@fc7307 that I’m not sure of because he doesn’t talk about it anymore but I hope he has as well
I mean term life policies are great if you're young and healthy, but you should never purchase them if you're older, it's a waste of money. anyone serious about helping people financially would never sell anyone over 45 term life insurance
Story 3 makes me so mad! All victims should have gone to the police to give more gravity to the complaint of the person whose benefits were taken away because of this fraud.
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In Hong Kong absolutely nothing would be done
Sounds like she tricked them into signing something. Police are probably going to say it's a civil, sue her. I don't know the laws in China, but this lady was smart to trick them into signing. It's infuriating because they trusted her... I can't imagine doing that to a complete stranger much less a friend! Shame on her, she definitely deserves jail time!
If my benefits were taken away, I'd be homeless and without insurance. Heck, I wouldn't even have the services to get my benefits back anymore.
It happened in Hong Kong, remember? Hong Kong, like many Asian countries, has a lot of corrupted police officers and government officials. People have to pay under table money to make the police take action. I have lived in several cities in Asia, and the level of corruption sometimes just inhuman, like some of these MLM horror stories. A friend of mine was asked some amount of money by the police because she was a witness in a theft case. A witness! Also there was a case when firefighters refused to take action before the owner of a burnt house pay them some money. The owner lost a young child in the fire because of that.
WAIT GOLD CANYON WAS AN MLM?????? We used to do Gold Canyon Candles fundraisers for orchestra in high school, where we'd get a catalogue and buy some, and then a portion of the money went to our program during the fundraiser time. I used to LOVE the clean linen candle. My whole life has been a lie 😩
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@@LA-wv7gf was it scentsy?
Oof I used to get Origami Owl pamphlets to order from back in elementary school
The day after Christmas?!?! We ARE spoiled!
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Before AND after Christmas? It's like she's caught the holiday feeling!
Merry Christmas to us!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Hannah. Thank you for this video 🙏🏽
Happy holidays, Hannah! Thank you so much for your VDOs.
As someone who lost my dad to cancer because he couldn't do a second round of chemo, the young living story makes my blood BOIL. How DARE someone tell a person who is responding well to treatment that the oils can cure them?!
Uuhhhhh Kangen water, I was once approached by a Kangen agent(?) saying that feeding my cats with Kangen water will make them healthier and encourage fluffy and bushy fur growth. My 2 cats are domestic short hair breed, there is no way in the world that they can suddenly turn to Maine Coon by drinking some magic water
That claim is hilariously absurd.
My dad died of lung cancer. That story about the mom who had breast cancer hit me pretty hard. That’s a perfect example of why I hate the oil MLMs the most. They are so dangerous and I’ve heard way too many stories similar to that one.
Same, I lost my dad to throat cancer and that story had me livid.
@@brandiewilliams5395 I’m so sorry for your loss! It infuriates me too!
I’m so sorry for your loss. The snake oil ones strike me as especially diabolical as well.
@@rustyshackleford4238 thank you!
The one with the daughter with a heart defect breaks my heart. My son was born with two different heart defects. One being hypoplastic left heart syndrome which means his left side of his heart was smaller than the right side. The other is heterotaxy. By itself it's not that bad but with another defect can make it worse. His aorta pump came in on the wrong side, he was born with out a spleen and the valve that went from his heart to his lungs didn't develop. The doctors told me that there is nothing that I did to cause it but bring his mother I felt like I did something wrong even though I didn't . For that Arbonne lady to convince that poor woman that it would help the baby makes me so sad. I really hope that she gets out before she gets herself into too much debt. my son thankfully survived 9 open heart surgeries and a heart transplant I can't imagine what that mother is going through losing her baby.
I'm so glad he was able to get the surgeries and transplant he needed, I hope he's doing well now. That's really difficult to go through
My son has a murmur a leak in his aortic valve and vsd. I wish they would have did surgery as a newborn because now he’s 7 and while it hasn’t gotten worse it hasn’t gotten better either
My daughter was also born with hypoplastic left heart syndrome ❤❤❤ no heterotaxy. That story really stuck with me and made me mad as well. My daughter passed away after her Glenn surgery. She had the fontan hybrid first so the Glenn was a bit more involved. 😢 knowing how vulnerable heart moms and angel moms are it’s upsetting
@@katiestmarie1306 in so sorry for your loss. It's not easy at all.
@@universal_stupidity he is doing really good now.
My mom got "approached" by an mlm on Facebook, she seemed interested until they said that she had to buy the products to resell them. She never backed up faster from an "opportunity".
We recently found out my fiancée has cancer. We’re doing ok even financially for now. I have been in multiple mlm’s but won’t ever join another one. Thanks to you, CC Suarez, Savannah Marie and others. I DARE a hun to approach us. It won’t be pretty. Lol
While watching your MLM top fails #53, I came up with this:
To the tune of the song from Beauty and the Beast:
Tale as old as time,
scams to say the least.
We are not prepared,
and we're kind of scared.
MLM products.
Many side effects,
and oh the expense!
We are not prepared,
and we're kind of scared.
MLM products.
Trying to branch out,
trying to make more,
trying something new,
trying to get you,
Oh this is a bore.
Tale as old as time,
is this really sane?
They are no experts,
and this really hurts,
Just stay in your lane!
These MLM Huns,
act with bad conduct,
we are not prepared,
and we're kind of scared,
MLM products.
We are not prepared,
and we're kind of scared,
MLM Products.
Brilliant 🤩
@@kumikosachs4619 Thank you!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
As a raving Beauty and The Beast fan,I approve this!
This is gold! I totally sang the whole thing!
The cancer story reminds me of something that happened in my country some years ago. The story even made it to multiple magazines.
A woman got diagnosed with breast cancer and soon after she got interested in holistic and natural alternatives. MLM's were never named, but I can't help but think that they must have been involved in some way. She began ordering oils, including cbd, from abroad. She would only take advice from her new, mostly american friends. Her mom and doctors begged her to agree to at least some of the medical treatments, but she kept refusing. If I remember correctly, she even travelled abroad to attend some kind of a holistic/spiritual retreat despite her declining health.
Unfortunately she d1ed, and left behind her 10 year old son. Her mother was absolutely devastated and has been sharing the story on women's magazines in the hopes of saving someone else.
I understand how these things happen in the US and other countries where healthcare is ridiculously expensive and people are desperate to find cheaper alternatives. But healthcare in our country is reliable, high quality and relatively inexpensive, many medications and treatments are partially or fully covered by the government and social security. I just can't understand how someone would not only risk their own life, but also take the risk of their small child losing a parent like this 😔
For the Kangen water story, most likely she was at a level that it would benefit her more for her downlines to "promote" than for her to make the sale. Sometimes they require downlines at a certain level for them to get certain bonuses.
Plus she just…kept the money. She double-dipped!
I haven't even watched it yet but the using oils to *treat" Cancer makes me furious especially since my mom tragically has stage 4 cancer. It's pure agony knowing I will loose her to it (I genuinely am struggling emotionally to cope so many tears have been shed). So the fact that these fools try to play G-d (you will be cured) out of pure ignorance which is doubtful but some really are that stupidly optimistic, or *just* to make a sale kills me because cancer is no joke! 😣😞
My parents were in amway years ago, they signed me up for a while (i was 18) and sadly, my mother still believes that amway isn't a scam, despite how much money and time they wasted on "the business"
It genuinely makes me sad that my mom blames herself for their failure.
I love these. I had three catty school bullies who all turned out to be MLM reps. Listening to these videos makes me feel better than them 😂
What bothers me (well alot bothers me but) is that people claim teachers make too much. Yet teachers are targeted heavily by mlms BECAUSE they don't make enough.
Who says teachers make too much?
Teachers don't make NEARLY enough!
Who the hell say teachers make too much?🤦🏼♀️ Teaching, like a tenured college professor, has one of the best job security in the job market. But it was compensated by making just a decent amount of money. A CEO, on the other hand, make a lot of money. But it is usually short-term contract based (1 or 2 years, then reviewed annually), and one of the most stressful jobs in the world.
I never heard anyone say teachers in America don’t make enough. In some countries, yes, they earn quite well, but in the US? Who says that?
As a daughter who was born with serious heart issues. I'm grown and doing great now. I heard my mom say many times she felt like she did something bad while she was pregnant with me and she felt like she didn't don enough after I was born. She did do everything even quitting her job so she could be with me 24/7. So I couldn't think of someone taking advantage of my mom when she was in that state caring for me while "blaming" herself.
Thank you so much for your content. My dog was recently diagnosed with cancer. It has been really hard. But for whatever reason, your videos have really helped in my anticipatory grief.
Thank you.
I'm so sorry to hear about your dog, sending you love!
@@HannahAlonzo thank you.
drinking game idea: binge watch hannah's MLM horror stories and take a shot everytime someone says "sorry for the long story"
Or "sorry for my bad English" and they proceed to use perfect English
Id be dead bro
I couldn't even finish watching. Good lord.
I feel like this drinking game could be classified as attempted h*m*c*d*…. Lol
Can we add a coffee shot for everytime someone mentions a job interview
To the person that also added their cat Billy's photo at the end is absolutely awesome.
I'd sue tf out of Young Living if I was that daughter. So tragic. Edit. That story made me want to cry. And it made me remember that a dear friend of mine got into Doterra when her father was dying of cancer. She was so convinced that rubbing certain oils on his feet would help and her desperation really broke my heart. She is now in a new one. Modere. And again no surprise that somebody preyed on her when yet again somebody very close to her in her family was having serious health issues. They used a lot of faith manipulation to get her to join as well.
When you've seen every single MLM video on this channel and you're scrolling through RUclips and you're like wait... I don't remember this title. 42 MINS AGO?!!! Let me go make some tea...
I’m a teacher in Canada, specifically Alberta, where teachers are very well paid, and I know several teachers who are, or have been, involved in MLM organizations. The pay is great for teachers here, but the stress and overwork are through the roof. I think that the desire or prospect of being your own boss, as well as the tantalizing idea of becoming fabulously wealthy, just take over some people’s minds.
Wow that second story with a heart defect broke me. That happened to me over 11 years ago. My daughter had the same or similar condition of “half of a heart” this boils my blood. Preying on a woman who had a sick child and then lost a child. So messed up.
There are a lot of areas in the US where tap water is not safe to drink. I'm curious if those areas have been targeted by the Kangan water filter people.
I watch/listen to your videos driving for my job everyday, this story about a mom losing a young child and being preyed on has me a grown man crying in my vehicle.
The pregnancy glow!! 😍 Hannah is looking even more beautiful than usual
Honestly! Even if the mother's own health decisions caused the baby's health condition, that kind of grief and guilt does not need to be compounded on that mother. Many people who have given birth to children that were affected by their own choices were in some way a victim during said pregnancy, and the added shaming will likely keep them in that place of victimization.
My son was born with half a heart as well.
It's breaks my heart someone pray on someone in so much pain.
Mlms really bring out the worst in people and show people's true colours.
OMG, that YL story makes me SO FURIOUS!! WTF is wrong with people?? I honestly hope the family went after the rep legally because holy shit, there needs to be consequences for that
Hi Hannah, just wanted to thank you for your content. I’m ashamed but I was in an MLM when I was just 20 years old. I “worked so hard” but barely got anywhere. Your videos are so educational! Thank you for your factual and compassionate approach. I’ve learned so much about how these companies really work and I wish I knew all this years ago!!!
i hope you can let go of that shame! someone took advantage of your youth and naïveté. what matters is that you learned from that experience and got out.
My 4 year old was recently diagnosed with a rare epilepsy syndrome and I’m waiting for the day done spews some crap about airborne helping with seizures. I will actually lose it! I feel so bad for that poor girl feeling like she’s the blame for her daughters diagnosis 😭😭 it literally breaks my heart!
As a retired primary school teacher, the teacher story hurt my heart too. I can’t believe any teacher would behave like that but I know lots of teachers are disengaged. It’s not right, students have a right to learn. They only get limited time for their education and we don’t have the right to waste it. Sorry, for the mini rant! Thanks for a great video. Hugs to you and Zeke and Cooper!❤
You are glowing. Wishing you energetic and healthy days ahead.
I wish a friend of the grieving mother would start a fundraiser, GoFundMe, donation channel, etc. and give the proceeds to the mother. I can’t imagine! 💔
I'd like to see a color street horror story and a Scentsy horror story as well
My boss at one of my old jobs sold that. I bought a wax melt thing with some wax beads and they hardly even smelled like anything
I'm a teacher educator fascinated by teachers like the one in this story. I worked with them. I've been scanning the internet for examples for research. Thanks for this great story. Wow!
This is not the first time I heard of young living and cancer. I fully believe that rep told the person’s mother that the oils would cure her. The reason why is that when I worked at a retirement home, the daughter of a resident was a young living seller and had convinced her parent that she cured her skin cancer with essential oils.
Wishing all K-12 teachers a 2023 with a big fat raise!!!! 🎆
I've had two family members pass from cancer in my lifetime, another passed before I was born, and my own mom survived and kicked cancer's ass- the second to last story infuriates me because I've been there. The amount of oily huns that ooze their way out of the woodwork when they hear someone has cancer or any other illness or disease is astronomical. I hate that they prey on people who've become ill, whether they have good intentions or not. It's such a bold stance to take that they think they know better than people who have dedicated their lives to fighting these diseases and some damn oil is going to cure someone of it better than the actual treatments. My heart goes out to the family from that story.
Hey Hannah. My daughter just had a beautiful healthy babyboy on Christmas Day!
Story 4 absolutely broke my heart. I'm so sorry to her and her family.
I’m loving how the teacher was clearly staying at her REAL job because she wanted/needed REAL benefits and a steady paycheck, while playing around with Lularoe.
Ma’am, you can’t have it both ways!
(And you just KNOW she was probably all over social media, lying about how her stupid MLM was paying so well and allowing her to live the good life. 🙄)
I think the teacher gives all of her students full marks or almost full marks so nobody report her. That's very smart of her. If I were her student, I definitely would gladly keep my mouth shut in exchange of a better mark than I usually get.
Story 4 is ripping me to shreds, as a single mom of two girls and a stage 3 breast cancer survivor😭 I'm so sorry for their loss!!!
Hannah, I actually started by watching your horror story videos, and I really resonated with your level of compassion and respect for the subjects of the stories.
Honestly I didn't even realize how sassy and eye-rolly (it's a Good thing) you can be until I branched out into your other videos! I really appreciate both sides of your content, as well as your no nonsense, logic first approach to the subject matter.
You were actually the first anti-MLM content creator I watched (RUclips randomly suggested you to me, I still have no idea why) and while I now watch others and fully appreciate them too, you're still my favourite because you come with facts, research, and a constant focus on the systemic nature of the problem of MLMs.
I'm so glad you overcame the 'there are already so many good creators in this space' voice in your head and started in anti-MLM because you've definitely connected with me and expanded my knowledge about how truly disturbing MLMs are and how they can inspire the vilest of actions.
Hope you're doing amazingly and you're enjoying your holiday season! ❤️
Hannah, I think your commentary on the last story was spot on. I've been listening to teaching podcasts and related commentary and most news sources say that somewhere over 50% of teachers have considered quitting in the last 5 years (can't remember the statistic exactly but it was staggeringly high). It would not surprise me if that teacher was looking for a way out of a job that doesn't pay her what she's worth and was promised that LuLaRoe was that out.
I have been a teacher for 20 years. I have known more than a few fellow teachers who have quit their jobs because MLMs were offered as a way out. It’s sad. They usually come back to teaching once they go into debt and their MLM “opportunity” doesn’t pan out.
Story 3 - If that happened to me I would've gone to the police 100%!! I can't believe these guys didn't. Seriously
A note on Enagic: according to Anna’s Analysis and her research about Kangen water, Enagic only has one filter for chlorine, and doesn’t filter out heavy metals, volatile organics, or salt. I know not many people here would be tempted to buy from Enagic, but that’s an important detail about the filtration.
I love it when people attach pictures of their cats! 😍
I wonder if the water filter actually makes unsafe drinkingwater safe.....
Hannah just giving up on explaining the Kangen water compensation plan is a mood. I've seen the explanation video on Always Marco and it took him over an hour and I would still not be able to explain it myself.
My dad is a cancer survivor, so he and I are definitely angry at anyone who claims essential oils would core cancer.
About the Kagen water story… I don’t know in Hong Kong, but in Canada, the first 12 000$ or so, we don’t pay taxes on it. And we don’t have to do a tax report either.
Thank you Hannah for uploading during the holidays. That shows your extreme commitment fighting against this horrible scams.
A couple months ago I sent in a story and even included a link I think might be helpful and very telling into the MLM I was in previously and what we were told to do. Scripts and stuff like that. Im hoping it went through
I’m sure it did! All MLM Horror Stories get filtered into a special folder in my inbox so they’re kept safe and not accidentally deleted. I’ve got over 1000 stories currently so I’m sure it’s there, I just haven’t had a chance to read it yet. Thank you for sending one in! ❤️
@@HannahAlonzo hey! Thanks so much for your reply! Wow 1000 is a lot, I love listening/watching your videos, keep up the amazing work! Sending love and happy holidays
As a momma of 4 gorgeous girls, I can say you are going to love it 💕 my second born was born with a vsd (a hole between the chambers of her heart). It did close on its own by 6 months, but she's still so dainty, like a 7 year old little fairy. She's smaller than her 5 year old sister. With the number of things that can and do go wrong in pregnancy or a child's life, this is disgustingly predatory and cruel. I hope that momma heals ❤️🩹 and again, congratulations on your lil beauty Hannah!
Laura from Story 1: you seem like a sweet and smart woman. You can do better than that toxic family! Get away, girl.
I hope the 2nd storyteller knows that their friend will eventually see through the fog, and I hope the friend knows she's not alone in this struggle or the grief. I was the child in a very similar situation(heart murmur I didn't grow out of), and after my surgery I was in the ICU with a kid who was born with 3/4 of a heart(I hope he's ok to this day). I can tell you that our conditions were not brought on by our moms' health choices, we just had unlucky rolls of the dice when it came to our hearts and were among the lucky few who made it long enough. I hope she heals from this loss and knows she did everything right 🧡
I think Michelle knows exactly what she did. It doesn't matter that the comp plan makes it more adventageous to sign people up under you. She is culpable and should be punished legally. The butterfly effect of her actions probably can't even be quantified. Just awful.
I wish they had reported her...
@@HH-hm3qn it's Hong Kong. She could just pay the police and nothing will be done
Thank you for sharing the kitten picture! adorable!
Thanks for some good I’m-just-being-a-bum-the-day-after-Christmas content!
Yea! Settling in for a nursing session. Perfect timing!
I knew the water company wasn't necessary, but I didn't know it was an MLM. There's an actual store in my area. I know a couple that started letting ppl come try it and sold the water by the gallon! I actually bought a few. Now they have a store selling the machines and water. Wow you can always learn something new.
having a loved one go through cancer treatment is hard enough. so i cant even fathom how painful and heartbreaking it would be to watch them get lured by the false promises of these mlm quacks and stop cancer treatment for something that doesnt actually treat cancer. im so mad for that person in story 4. those mlm reps literally killed their mother with their negligence and predatory and greedy actions imho
Hi Hannah, I'm commenting way after this video came out but wanted to say something since the young living story really hit me too. I am currently getting my PhD in cancer biology, and have seen many people go through the same thing with their loved ones. Chemotherapy and radiation work by trying to kill off the cancer cells in greater abundance than killing off healthy cells but because these therapies mostly target cells that divide rapidly, a lot of healthy cells in our gut lining and other areas tend to get hit hard too...which is unfortunately why nausea is so common, as you mentioned. We are always trying to work on finding better treatments that are more targeted and cause less side effects to the patients, but it is slow going. I would encourage anyone who is going through a similar situation with a loved one to make sure that they are discussing any holistic options with their oncologist - both so that their loved one feels that they are exploring all of their options but also so that the oncologist can consider any possible interactions that may occur between any ingested holistics and chemotherapy. Sending lots of love to the subscriber who submitted that story and hoping that their family has been able to find some peace and closure ❤
The cancer story is horrific. I hope the family will contact a good personal injury lawyer. These people (the sellers) don't listen until the pain they cause to people results in financial pain to themselves. The seller and the company should learn that they aren't qualified to give medical advice to anyone, especially to someone who is so vulnerable. It constitutes elder abuse (physical, emotional, financial) in some states. It will continue until they learn the hard way that what they are doing is wrong. My heart goes out to this family who had to watch their loved one suffer. 💕
I just don’t understand. “Make your own hours” “be home with your family” “you don’t even have to work so hard” then the shame kicks in. “Why aren’t you at the thrice weekly tele-meeting at 5 pm?” “You are trying hard enough” “you need to go to this conference in Vegas, who cares about your BFF’s wedding” No thanks 40 hours a week. Get paid days off AND I’m not being expected to post on instagram while down with the panini.
We’ve had a rep here at my office the last few days from our HQ (trying to see what they can automate). In the supervisor mentioning migraines during break, the rep mentioned, not 1, but 2 MLMs that she buys from for her “migraine kit”: Dotera and Young Living. Dear lord.
This video is the courage I needed to clean up after Christmas lol. Thank you for the amazing video as always Hannah. Hope you had an amazing Christmas 🎄
Story 4 had me crying and wishing the worst to the lot of them, especially the distributor essentially responsible for the mother's death that could've possibly been prevented or her degeneration slowed down. How cruel and disgusting. They should be held accountable (and burn in hell). So heartbreaking. 😢
I'm already excited for this. We are heading towards 100 000
A lot of really heartbreaking stories today!
Story 2 brought me to tears. I can't even imagine. I don't wish the death of a child, no matter the age, on my worst enemy. The audacity of some people.
Awww. Billy is a fluffy version of my first cat, Louis. So handsome! 😻
andrea in the first story make serenity by jan (the office) look like a smart and legit business venture 😂
can you please do a scentsy deep dive
I'm so glad Hannah has these videos queued up even during the holidays. Thank you!
The third story is on a whole new level of disgusting :'(
My guess is that the water filter seller would get benefits from the MLM but also be able to declare taxes under a lower income bracket thus saving herself a pretty penny and leaving the tax bill for her victims 😖
🖤🖤🖤 I’m obsessed with these videos! They’ve helped me a lot!
My husband's family used to live in Hong Kong before the changeover in 1997, but at the time, everyone paid tax, regardless of income, as a flat rate. I think it was 12% or 15%...something like that. So even if you only earned $200 in a year, you'd have to pay a percentage to the government in tax. How this rep didn't know that is beyond me.
The MLM hun BLAMING the mom for her daughters heart issue is the exact reason why they get blocked on site if they reach out to me. That is absolute garbage behavior 15:07
The moment I was diagnosed with cancer, people including family members came out of the woodwork to advise me concerning their essential oil cancer cures. They must think that I am an idiot.
This is the first time I have heard of an MLM charging for a website!
Yes! I love these videos! Best late Christmas gift ever!! Thank you Hannah
You know that Michele had learned this from her up-line, imagine how many more victims there are out there.
charges NEED to filed against Michelle…
As a trained holistic therapist (6 years of various accredited courses), I despise the bs that people will tell vulnerable people to sell overpriced, ethically questionable products. It infuriates me, yes complimentary therapies can be used ALONGSIDE medicine but never instead of, it’s in the name- complimentary.
Have you ever thought about doing a deep dive on Shanann Watts' relationship with MLM and how it affected their family? People have touched on it here & there and I've always found it fascinating... not saying at all it was any excuse for what happened to her of course. It clearly was an issue in their family tho. I've never seen it dealt with in any other way but as a very cursory mention. I would love to see someone really explore the whole topic. I admit I haven't checked (and I will) but if you haven't I hope you'll consider it.
I am so enraged by the second story!!! My son was also born with only half heart, he had a heart transplant when he was just two months old and he's seven years old now. He also had a head surgery and he is autistic. If someone told me that it's my poor health decisions that caused all of this I would now be in prison for murd3r! And telling that poor mother that those stupid Arbonne supplements could help her daughter... Sure dude, give your kid these and her heart will magically be whole! Like who the hell does that?!!!!
My brother took me to a recruitment conference for Melaleuca. I had never really heard of MLM's but my 20-yr-old gut yelled at me "Don't do it!" I have a former coworker who sells Amway and bragged about the products. I did buy a few things, which I did like, but were definitely overpriced when I could've purchased better products from Ulta. She has "mentors" that coach her and she is definitely immersed in her "business." I don't think she is honest about where she is (financially). She left a full-time government job with amazing benefits to do this full time, so maybe??... still, not my thing at all. I could never sleep at night selling products to people I love that I knew were overpriced or unnecessary.
Have you you heard of Forex? My husband told me about someone trying to recruit him for it if you’d like a story. But it’s a currency exchange that people from a thing called IM Academy (MLM) try to recruit people to even though it’s an independent thing.
It's crazy to me how many mlms I've come in contact with but never realize they were mlms
Happy Boxing Day Hannah! 🎉
I went to the mall in Corpus Christi last Thursday. There was a cutco pop-up in the middle of the mall. 🥴
Probably not your prototypical viewer, but I gotta say (ZERO CREEP FACTOR) I love your channel. Your videos have helped me slog through many work days of drudgery. Thank you and Happy New Year! LOL!
Oh hell yeah, someone from my city of Hong Kong. Kangen is kind of one of the mlms that we have here, and most homes have a water filtration machine since we can't drink tap water directly most times. Other mlms I've seen here are Amway and Young Living.
I don’t know if gold canyon an MLM or not. I live in Arizona and Gold Canyon is actually the name of a city here and I have met the lady who created the company and we used to sell them for fundraisers at our school and when I was in cheerleading for new equipment & things like that, and we would sell them to our friends and family and whatever we sold, we would get certain prizes for it, which is another type of business model (kind of like selling Girl Scout cookies in a way), but I don’t know if it’s technically an MLM or not.