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TFS: F150 Leveled on 35's for Under $1,000
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2018
- Is it possible to level a 2014 F150 Ecoboost and slap on 35's on a shoe string budget? Watch as Justin finds unique ways to chop the budget down to an affordable mod list that anyone can do.
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What is your exhaust set up?
What Is the 1.5" hub Centric spacer for?
@@danielsandoval634 Sticking out the factory wheels so the tires clear the control arms. Also makes the truck look a bit cooler
Last question, haha. In the video you say that the front was lifted 3" and the rear 1.5", but you have listed a 2.5" level kit? Can elaborate more?
@@danielsandoval634 That was total net clearance gained after leveled and tires installed. The front was spaced 2 inches and the tire lifted the truck another 1.5 inches. The rear was left alone so just the additional height of the tire was added to net clearance gain.
Finally someone who is honest on here. Seems like 99% of the car guys start out talking about a "budget build" By the time they are done they have a sema overlander.
I swapped my driver's and passengers side struts to avoid having to rotate them.
No, you did not.
This is one of the best RUclips videos I’ve ever seen in my life. Guy really knows EXACTLY what you want to hear wish I would have seen this one first
Thank you very much! I have the same 20in wheels and 35in tires with 1.5 spacers, on my 2012 EXPY MAX, with 3.5/ 2.5 level kit, Everyone on the web said it wouldn't fit,even the folks on Ford Forum said you can't make it fit, well you and I are proof of what you can accomplish when you don't take NO for an answer. Thanks again!
People in chairs behind screens don't build cars and trucks. We do.
Beginning, it's going to be a true 1k setup, later, get crafty and have access to things you'll need.
when i worked at 4 wheel parts, we did some border patrol trucks. 35s with new wheels with a little more offset and zero lift. trimmed the front plastic and rear plastic. also took off the inner fender and had to cut the pinch seem in 2 inch sections and bend it over. no rub no steering issues.
Had experience with the lift you used, the thing that happens is stress on the upper ball joints and they will go bad in no time because of the angle.
A good kit will have new control arms to compensate for that angle.
Nice video, good job taking the time to explain things.
Yep I have a 2.25 level... New upper arms are on my wishlist... Along with either falcon or king shocks.
Leveled my truck, installed and aligned for 350 including parts and labor, lowballed some dude on Facebook to get pretty much brand new (500 or so miles on his new raptor) takeoffs. So I got a leveled f150 with 35's for 950. It's possible
Any rubbing off road?
I did nearly the same exact thing! Haha good job man.
Any rubbing ?
You're right about wheel spacers being perfectly safe although loctite is your friend there. It aggravates me too when people start a rant about them. The only thing spacers or negative offset rims will do is throw off your scrub radius, but if you don't care than go for it.
I did a 2.5 inch level(rough country) with install & tires (33inch venom power A/T) for $1353 after tax. Then went to NTB & got a alignment for $90. 2015 F150 Supercrew Lariat 🤷🏾♂️
Did you have any issues with your camber/caster once everything was done? I noticed my camber is off. Thinking of getting the Moog camber adjustable bolt kit. I want it to run straight with winter coming. Lessons learned after...
Glad it all worked out in the end. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT BIT ABOUT THE SPACERS... Too many people don't seem to make the connection between (good) spacers, and low backspaced wheels...
Also, tell your Old Man it's good to see other 2 door JKs out on the trails. I like what he did with his.
Agreed!!"
Whoa.. at 17:09- did you just say “it looks like it’ll go out there and do some SHIT”!?!? First 4 letter word I recall hearing on TFS! You must really be excited about this build!!
It was actually closer to 17:07 or so
But yes - a four letter word slipped past the sensors on this one and I actually said that 🤣
I put 3.5in leveling struts with new upper control arms that correct upper ball joint angle, and installed 4in block in the back. looks great, you'd swear it had a 4in lift all the way around. NOW, the down side to it. the front axles were on a horrible bind going over small obstacles, rocks, bumps in the road, speedbumps. it wore out my front axle support bushings, my inner axle bearing on the passenger side, ruined my 4x4 actuators, and passengers side hub bearing in 8 months. I'm installing a real 6inch lift now with front and rear cross members and diff drop brackets to return everything to factory geometry, I would not recommend a leveling kit beyond 2-2.5 inches. just don't do it.
I purchased my 12 f150 already lifted. Block in the back. I can't tell how the front is lifted but my upper control arms are pointing like to 7:00. Not sure what angle that is. I know that's supposed to be level. I can't see any spacers. But the truck rides like crap that's for sure. Bumps go through the entire truck. Not to mention brand new set of 305s ATs I put on a year ago now have the diagonal warps in them. Tires are so dam loud slapping the pavement. My plan is to put the real 6" lift as well to hopefully get a better ride and I'm pretty sure all factory shocks were left when lifted which to me puts the shock extended all the time which I'm thinking is not how it was designed which may also cause the ruff ride. My has factory fender flares so I'm pretty sure this was all dealer done but def not the right way.
You can just rotate that bar with the studs eh. Takes like 30 seconds and a vice
Hahahaha the gangsta lean was relatable
They charged you over $100 for a "cheap' alignment and the wheel is still crooked? Dude you got screwed.
Yeah...centering the steering wheel should always be done then...
Yeah, around here cheap is $50 and $85 is most you can pay.
Its just a toe adjustment anyway, I don't there is adjustability for castor or camber on the F150.
@@311afox there is actually.
Good I'm 14 and my dad told me he would give me his 2014 f150. I'm excited. But I really wanted to lift it and off set it. But its expensive. This is good they have things like this.
Hi. When all is said and done how much trimming was needed so there’s no rubbing because you didn’t say
We've waited 5 years for this answer and it never came
The real takeaway from this is that.. I need a huge pry bar.
Bluetooth driveshafts 🤣🤣🤣
No need to rotate top. Just drop in the 2 lower holes and push or pull it. That bottom shaft will easily move where you need it.
Could you not just use the passenger strut on the driver side since they would inherently be 180 out from each other?
I think you’re right. I think most people don’t do that because they don’t have enough jacks and they are just doing one corner at a time in their driveway. In his case I believe he could have just switched them.
Are you still on this setup a year later was curious how the tires and wheel spacers have held up
I like this video .... a little bit different but it feel like a season 1 videos and I like that
big O blows, i use peerless in my town for work, i buy my tires from Discount. I'm running a RC 2.5 leveling strut in front and 1 inch block in back on 1552 00 offset wheels with bfg 315/70/17 and 1.5 centric wheel spacer. NO RUBBING! I see you ran wheeler pass... been a while since i been to Vegas. I'd love to roll that pass with someone next time im in Vegas with my truck.
I can get free alignments...brother works at a tire/lube shop :D Normally their alignments run $75 I just buy him lunch xD
Those wheel spacers went up $40 in 4 months.
They are up to 150$ now, insane.
@@dylanlogan7 Back down to $99 two years later ...
Well Leon... let the learning begin... just got my FM9 last week... I still love my AX8 (I use a few of your patches live)
16:44 adds up to 985.38 and you didn't count your time your time is worth something. Also no need to spin the hat. Also, loosen upper and lower control arms slightly makes it a ton easier and faster in the end. May want to clarify that you're taking the brake line and speed sensor wires loose from the knuckle not actually taking it off the caliper. Also, tighten wheel nuts in a Criss-Cross pattern to prevent warping brake rotors (yes I know you trust your gun but if you're going to be an example you should use best practices. Torque wrenches save lives from weak batteries and DIYers cheap impact guns)
God bless You 🙏🏼 Great video if we had more people like you it will be a blessing 👊🏼👊🏼👍🏼
Less than $900 on my 2017 F150, leveling kit, mount, balance and 18" mud grip, all done at Discount Wheel and Tire.
Awesome!
What tires you running ? I have a 16 with a 3” level
Alignment?
Dude, loved the video but for one thing. You would never catch me buying Suretrac tires. I lived in China for 7 years, and one thing I have come to understand from this is that, even the Chinese people don't want tires made by Chinese people.
😆😆😆😆
James Landry dumbass 80% of the tires in the world are made in China.
I haven't done tires since 1994, no Dubs, no Donks no TP monitors. But Pep Boys (where I worked) had tire cages and we were required (yeah right!) to use them. Lug Torque was required and we had to record that and the TP on the work order.
And I'm not taking my F150 off-road. If I'm in the dirt it ain't on purpose! 😂 I have 4WD/A4WD but it's a Platinum. Hard Ball only!
One of my first jobs was at Tireman. That was 1986. Def no dubs, donks, TPM, and no cages!
I think you picked the wrong Big O store. In Salt Lake my Big O would have charged the same price. But if I noticed that the steering wheel wasn’t straight, I would have taken it back. They would say “oh I’m sorry, give me 5 minutes and I’ll fix it for you”. Maybe you could factor in the round trip fuel costs and come on over to SLC. ; > )
You dont need to compress spring
Just turn the rubber that holds the bottom studs
Yup just need to turn it like 15 degrees to the other side
I own a 2009 SCREW, 5.4 3V with a 3" RC lift/ level, slight rub on turn/bump mix.... Running stock 20s with a slightly over stock Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT. Very comfy but stout ride.
As always sir, thank you for all your videos.
“No cheating” borrows a whole azz shop lol
Great video. I never worried about regular wheels blowing apart during tire changes. Split rims will get you hurt, they have cages for them, we use to put them under a arm of a lift back in the day. Showing my age as well.
I done a few at home with my dad growing up we always put them under the frame of the truck when seating beads
I did a 2.5" level, 35 inch 11.5 tires all four, mount, balance, alignment. 2100 dollars
Time has not been kind...
This is exactly what I need I mean exactly what I needed. Thank you
Lol that was dope? I like this guy, he's funny! 😂
I just did this on my 2019 but I bought used raptor take offs. Bought cheap 2.25 level I think from Amazon. Had the installation done with alignment at offroad warehouse.
Turned off tpms and adjusted Speedo with superchips calibrator.
All under $1k.
I cheated getting used wheels/tires on offer up for only $450 and no tpms.
I have since downsized to 33s because I still tow a 7,000 pound travel trailer and I dont have the funding to support regearing a 4x4 with IFS. but it's not ruled out for the future because DAMN 35s look good...
Swap the struts side to side after installing the spacer you don’t have to rotate the hat the studs will align
I wonder why this isn't common knowledge. :) I've seen people take these to a shop because they thought they had to compress the spring and spin it. lol
Please explain?
Isaiah Oveal just take it from one side and put on the other , or take a pry bar between the studs and just spin the upper strut mount
@@danw1089 Thank you sir! 🙏🏽
price went up on the tires its 971 for 4 now (2/23), Nice king Ranch wheels!
Great Video, I just bought 35” 12.5 R20 BF KO2 for 1331$ I guess I went over budget😂😂😂. And the prócomp leveling kit was 152$.
JAI CHA yup I’m running 35x12.5 r18 bfg at ko2 that cost me about the same. But I have them on m tundra with about 15k miles and they still have the nubs on the ends of the treads!
I went with raptor take offs I found on offer up for $450. I took off the 35s and sold them, used the money to get a set of 33 bfg ko2 with more meat also used. I came in under $1k even with paying 450 for installation of the level and alignment.
Was all set to do the exact same one for same truck and go to open package and dont even have the right screws 😩 wouldn’t know what size they are by chance?
Looks sweet!! The newer Ford wheels look great on your truck :)
Ford trucks #1 best of best!!
What was the turn radius before and after? Any cutting that you had to do? Awesome video. Thanks.
I bought the bilstein 2" lift 5100 struts & shocks for $380 and could of stayed there but the wheel spacers I removed destroyed the top hats so $60=x2 for top hats at AutoZone and decided not to mess with the old springs so bought new HD springs $90=set amazon then rented a spring compressor tool and bent it so called around and found a place to compress the springs and put them together for $60 total so 380+120+90+60=$650 total I did the install
Nice video! I'm thinking of leveling my 2018 Tundra 4x4.
You never mentioned if there was any running issues with the 35s... so any issues with rubbing?
flyboynextdoor this is insane. This question has been asked at least 5 times without a response. Apparently there’s rubbing which is why the question is avoided. I want this same setup. Right now I have a 2.5 leveling kit sitting ridge grappler 33X12.5X20 factory king ranch wheels.
Bashing one's head is my trick.
Installed a level on my last truck but now I don't have time necessarily on my 2016 F150. I asked my local Ford dealer to quote me installation of the level spacer and alignment. They came back at $652.... Is it just me or is that ridiculously high? If I had time, I would do it myself!
That's wild high
$100.55 is a CHEAP alignment!!!? It's $59 in my area and that's standard price.
I’m California $100 is a cheap alignment unfortunately.
sirroxalot typically about $90 around here in New Hampshire/Massachusetts
Did you do anything to back?since you added the leveling kit in the front ?? Do the 35s rub is the front?
For what you did "off road" you could have done by lowering your air pressure and you could have saved your $967.30. But it looks good to you so that's what's it's all about looks like it can do something. Should have got the 5.0 if you wanted it to do something
cool project, cool trail!
Cool video. How are the lug nuts after those super tight sockets. I was cringing watching you torquing to get socket off them. Ouch haha
I know this is old but ford lugs swell and so they are junk anyway. The sockets were the right size, lugs were the problem
A thousand bucks dude I could of got lift shocks from Fox for that budget
Now add in new tires, balance, alignment, installation, etc.
Turning the top hat of the strut isn’t necessary. Simply turn the entire assembly and when you tighten the bottom mount it will pivot in the bushing.
Could this have been done without the wheel spacers?
Excellent video. Glad to see it can be done. I'm the average guy who doesn't have the technical experience
I have a 2014 f-150, 2.5” leveling kit, 35x12.50R18 federal couragia m/t on oem wheels, slight rubbing at full lock.
Trim the air dam. No more rub or 4 or 5 bolts take it off
Air dam is removed, tires rub on upper control arms slightly
Did you have to regear? What gears are you running?
Really well made video
Love the project name!
What exhaust do you got or how do you get your turbos to spook like that
Hahahaha. "bluetooth drive shafts!" Fucking love it! I'm a Tundra lover, but who cares you're okay in my book. You earned your subscribe from me, thanks bro!
normally, how much is the labor cost for installing the leveling kit?
1 1/2 " in the rear and 3 1/2" in the front end @ 18:55.. Is that the total over all height that You got with the tires? The reason I ask? You said you used a 2" leveling kit. I have Confusion on the wheel spacers... I have been told 33" tire will rub with a 2" kit. Do you get enough clearance with 35" tires?
That's a good question...
2” lift and 1.5” for the difference in tire size, so a net lift of 3.5 in the from and 1.5 in the rear
2013 f150 4x4. Installed a 2.5" spacer on front and didnt have to rotate the shocks at all
2013 used a differnt style shock. 2014s started using the same as the 15 as ford was already converting machines in plants for production- actual quote when I called ford asking why the hell my shit was different
Did you have any wheel rubbing and if not do you think a 2in wheel spacer
OK...was going to let this one go...but just couldn't...sorry...When lifting a coil over setup with a spacer added on top of the shock on a IFS 4wd front end, it's not recommend (by me, and others) because it will add more CV joint angle then there were designed for...AND the factory upper arm runs out of angularity at the ball joint real fast...yes some trucks will just squeak by and others will cause premature failure...I'm just saying...:)
I take my trucks to the desert to run, (not race...)including Baja runs and I'm always critical of changes that don't get thought thru and leave me or someone else stuck with a broken truck in the middle of nowhere...Was just out playing in the desert today, doing a Poker Run with my 18' Raptor...had a great time...
Wow new to your channel liked this video will be watching out for you from Milwaukee
if your building an offroad truck with less than 42" tires please go smaller rims then 20" cheaper tires for price, better offroad and ill cringe less in mall parking lots lol
Pickup trucks belong in mall parking lots lol
Right along with 4 door JustKidding Jeep "Unlimited" minivans.
PLUS, when offroad you are going to want to air down so having enough side wall to air down is crucial. I like 17in rims with 35in tires. There is a reason they use 17in wheels with 35" tires on the raptor.
Mick Rambo hi
Dick rambone... cringe on this....
It's been nearly 30 years since I did an alignment, but we used to have a little spring loaded device that would sit in the seat and hold the steering wheel in place. We did this before taking the readings to determine if adjustments were needed.
Has the process changed that much, or just the lack of common sense of the people employed in these shops?
I was an alignment tech many years ago and remember using the same device. I think it's just lack of caring that the alignment wasn't satisfactory.
What’s the width of the rims?
Can 35x12.5 or 33x12.5 tires fit on my factory 18x7.5 wheels?
Threw the old tire off that snap on toolbox !!😈
Don’t you have to recalibrate the speedo as well for the larger tires ?
Tuning
You might as well get prepared to replace tie rods, ball joints, and u joints once a year. Been there and done that
Can’t you just switch the right and left strut assemblies? Just have to bend the bottom to match the opposite angle. 5:53 this seems like a lot of unnecessary work (put a slightly different style on my expedition, but exact same 180 twist issue).
Did you buy 2 spacers just for the front
Swapping sides works faster and easier no issues
Bahahaha, sorry guys the Majority of people don't have Any of this equipment or the money to have someone else to do this project.
Truck looks super cool . I did 2 inch leveling kit on the front of my wife’s 2015 F 150 4x4 Sport lariat and the axles seem to be at an odd angle is that OK?
Where did you get your tires ?
I don't get the rotation of the shock . Like he said, the top will only line up one way. The bottom rod will rotate as required once it's tightened into place, so what am I missing? Help!
So I should only need 1.5” wheel spacers on a bone stock 2013 4x4 F150 eco to run 33x12.5 on factory 18” rims? Would I need to add the spacers on the back tires as well?
300 a tire now 🤷♂️. Welcome to hyper inflation
Thank Brandon!
Any issues with the wheel spacers .heard they were really dangerous
My 2012 f150 has 275/65/20 Nitto Ridge grapplers, 2015 20" wheels, and a 2" leveling kit. Those wheels come from the f150 series. No spacers, no clearance issues. And my tires are a half inch away from being 35s
Wow 😳! Finally find someone realistic and real -no fucks given like me👍👍
Awesome setup. Was there any rubbing after all said and done?
Are you sure you needed the spacers..i am running 34 inch bfg ta2 with only a 3 inch front strut level.Plenty of clearance. Never rub.
Lol, where do I get the Bluetooth drive shafts.
Did u have to recalibrate?
Could you put those tires on without the spacers or would the rubbing become to bad?
00whitekid you can’t get full turn radius without spacers on stock rims.
So you were saying that as long as you run a hun centric wheel spacer you will be good does it matter what size of one you run I always thought 2in was ok but what if you run a 3 just wondering though. Thanks