Leveling VS Lifting - Pros and Cons

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @rafaelsantiago7359
    @rafaelsantiago7359 4 года назад +677

    Bunch of haters and most of the ones talking crap don’t even own a truck 🤣🤣

    • @pudermcgavin4462
      @pudermcgavin4462 4 года назад +10

      Those who don't own a truck just shake our heads like wtf. You lifted stupid pushed out wheels losing towing and still can't off road just wow the stupid is strong with truck ownwrs

    • @jamesegsmith
      @jamesegsmith 4 года назад +15

      Haters gonna hate 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Vikturus2k6
      @Vikturus2k6 4 года назад +32

      Puder, I’m lifted, offset and 35s, I toe and off-road...
      Seems like your 89 civic with the fart can can’t even beat a truck in a race. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @robinthrill3r7
      @robinthrill3r7 3 года назад +7

      @@pudermcgavin4462I'm running a 7" lift with 35s and I tow, haul and move crap just fine 👌
      No regear or engine mods either...

    • @chicoonyt3948
      @chicoonyt3948 3 года назад

      Fax💯

  • @donttellmeicant
    @donttellmeicant 5 лет назад +2070

    Couldn't focus on anything he said because I was too distracted by the brown belt with the black shoes lmao
    Still a great video tho! Solid content!

    • @myboy051
      @myboy051 5 лет назад +26

      Bradley Silvestro - pretty funny comment , I’m a stickler for that !!!!

    • @mckou1547
      @mckou1547 5 лет назад +148

      Now I can't unsee it.

    • @famousmidnight
      @famousmidnight 5 лет назад

      lol

    • @hermesvalencia2187
      @hermesvalencia2187 5 лет назад +54

      I wouldn't be surprised if he's wearing White 'Wilson' socks underneath those baggy pants.

    • @famousmidnight
      @famousmidnight 5 лет назад +16

      @@hermesvalencia2187 Those southern baptist preacher pants haha so funny

  • @1John3.8
    @1John3.8 2 года назад +198

    I think 2" leveling with 17/18" wheels and 33" tires is the most proportioned, aggressive, stylish, practical upgrade on newer model F-150s.

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 2 года назад +7

      Perhaps a “miss” in the practical category, but I prefer what you said plus narrower 35” tires like the 285/75r18. I like all the clearance I can get for the off roading I do, but don’t want the various penalties of a true full lift, so I go with the tallest tires possible with the smallest amount of lift/level.

    • @hectors.6891
      @hectors.6891 Год назад +1

      What about on a 1995 obs 2wd bro I can’t decide wether a 2” or 2.5”

    • @Smoothy38
      @Smoothy38 Год назад

      I've got a 2.5" level on my 2021 xlt with LT295/70/r18, the equivalent to a 34.5x11.5" tire...and it only rubs at full lock, and just barely, could be the max payload and towing packages, but it looks and drives great

    • @michaelbergeron1554
      @michaelbergeron1554 Год назад

      @@hectors.6891can you even lift that?

    • @truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639
      @truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639 7 месяцев назад

      35s would make it pretty doggie too.

  • @mmartinez4134
    @mmartinez4134 5 лет назад +207

    Definitely the 2 1/2 level kit with the 35" tires looks better and not over done.

    • @stevesawatsky
      @stevesawatsky 2 года назад +10

      agree but push the wheels out a half inch and it's perfect

    • @quincy22
      @quincy22 Год назад

      @@stevesawatskycan you explain what you mean by pushing the wheels out?

    • @otrstreams6935
      @otrstreams6935 Год назад +1

      ​@@quincy22theyre talking about offset wheels or using spacers to make them stick out

  • @BamaFan1020
    @BamaFan1020 5 лет назад +487

    Absolutely love the leveled look. Stands out just enough without being too much. Having said that I do love the Black Widow and Apex builds but practically speaking, the leveled worked better for me.

    • @colby2150
      @colby2150 5 лет назад +26

      BamaFan1020 I couldn’t agree more, the leveled truck looks so much more appealing to me aswell, I love the look of the leveling kits with some meatier tires on stock wheels

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 5 лет назад +35

      As an automotive engineer though, spending millions of dollars testing these vehicles under loads and on aerodynamics, it always surprises me how few people are curious why all the factory vehicles without exception come with a rake even if aesthetically people prefer a level look... we do that because it massively impacts the aerodynamics of the vehicle even when not under load (google why are all vehicles raked), and increases tow and cargo capacity on non-bagged vehicles.

    • @Slayer-oq8fv
      @Slayer-oq8fv 5 лет назад +10

      Leveling reduces you chances of an accurate alignment, increases tire wear,strut failer,get mechanics in trouble for a come backs that out of their hands. Been working as an ASE tech for 25 yrs and happens 50 times a week, and what happens then extremely great techs get burn and quit mechanicing then your community has shops full of inexperience techs. Get a lift kit because it moves everything down you keep you factory spring rate and loose no alignment adjustments. Remember this quote if you have a leveling kit your mechanic wants you DEAD. I have run community meetings with over 500 techs and every single tech has the same thought. Your leveling kit is ruining your community's techs reputation. Think about it. Tech are not aloud to speek about this because shop owners have a stupid saying. The customer is always right. And I have a come back for that saying. If the customer was right he would an ASE cert and would be working in the stall next to me. Leveling kits should be illegal.

    • @BamaFan1020
      @BamaFan1020 5 лет назад +1

      siafu 76 K...

    • @IdaKicker
      @IdaKicker 5 лет назад +5

      I completely disagree I think it's ugly trucks are supposed to have a rake. if you level it out it just makes it obvious that you're never going to use your truck for doing truck things like hauling or pulling. It looks like it's either broken or somebody messed something up.

  • @jaytcapinpin
    @jaytcapinpin 5 лет назад +474

    I've got 3 kids I need to put through college...leveling kit it is. LOL 😂

    • @Fmron55
      @Fmron55 4 года назад +3

      Same lol

    • @sirdumbthicc4294
      @sirdumbthicc4294 4 года назад +1

      Yuuup

    • @SEVENTEENPOINT1
      @SEVENTEENPOINT1 4 года назад +6

      It is more tasteful imo as well.

    • @flman1284
      @flman1284 4 года назад +9

      His estimate for the level is way up too... BDS level kit... $50-$60.... Alignment- $160 if that.

    • @sirdumbthicc4294
      @sirdumbthicc4294 4 года назад +1

      Mike Hudson yeah I got my leveling kit and alignment for around $250. I did the labor for leveling kit but took about an hour total.

  • @deadbambi
    @deadbambi 4 года назад +10

    I chose the 4.5" leveling kit....4.5" in the front and 2 inches in the rear on my 2018 F250 and I couldnt be happier with how it looks and rides, got 35s on the stock wheels for winter and 37s on 20x12s for the summer

    • @xbocax16
      @xbocax16 2 года назад

      Why different tires and wheels for summer and winter?

  • @DrSimnjanovski
    @DrSimnjanovski 3 года назад +213

    Wife said if it doesn’t fit in the garage, I can’t get it.
    I bought a house with a bigger garage.

    • @kjgallagher4
      @kjgallagher4 3 года назад +24

      Would have been cheaper to get a different wife ;)

    • @amac6347
      @amac6347 3 года назад +8

      Shoulda bought a different wife

    • @jayboogie7956
      @jayboogie7956 3 года назад +2

      @@kjgallagher4 facts

    • @jayboogie7956
      @jayboogie7956 3 года назад +2

      @@amac6347 preach

    • @garbanzofish3551
      @garbanzofish3551 3 года назад +2

      Real man would of just bought the truck. But then again I am alone.

  • @cornydad
    @cornydad 4 года назад +26

    33" tires, 2.5" leveling kit, little bit of poke of the tire outside the body for a wider looking stance.

  • @GolfCoyote
    @GolfCoyote 5 лет назад +1070

    Man I cannot stand lifted trucks with low pro tires and huuuuuge wheels. Looks awful in my opinion

    • @jeremyherz1969
      @jeremyherz1969 5 лет назад +82

      Colin1337 yeah same I like me a meaty tire I feel like low profiles were meant for cars that are dropped or cambered ect

    • @Appalachianasshole41
      @Appalachianasshole41 5 лет назад +47

      I hate bro trucks

    • @joshuac1364
      @joshuac1364 5 лет назад +10

      It looks more like a delicate toy to me

    • @Jmatt777
      @Jmatt777 5 лет назад +39

      I agree. That look is just so kiddy high school. Leveled on 33s or 35s is a real grown mans work pickup.

    • @jesseslaughter5905
      @jesseslaughter5905 5 лет назад

      @@jeremyherz1969
      ...

  • @evanbaldwin4952
    @evanbaldwin4952 5 лет назад +8

    Great video! I’ve had both a leveling kit and lift kit on my ‘11 F150 Lariat 4x4. I will say though, before buying my leveling kit 2 years ago, I was told by the shop I would be able to go to 35 inch tires with minimal scrubbing. Despite what they said, I went with 33 inch federals on 20 inch Fuels (-24 offset) just to avoid rubbing altogether, so I thought. Even with the 33’s and 2 1/2 inch leveling kit, my truck scrubbed BAD. I mean even 1/2 turn to either side was brutal. I had to do major trimming around the scrubbing locations on my fender liner and it fixed the problem mostly. Just be aware different trucks/setups will not be the same...

    • @zakp7532
      @zakp7532 5 лет назад

      Does a level change the ride quality? Any issues through time ?

    • @evanbaldwin4952
      @evanbaldwin4952 5 лет назад

      Zak P no, not at all. You only start getting a change in ride quality when you throw a lift on

    • @zakp7532
      @zakp7532 5 лет назад +1

      Evan Baldwin thanks for reply! I get my 2" level done tomorrow!

  • @yodawg3469
    @yodawg3469 5 лет назад +13

    I leveled my ram out with zero issue's with the stock uca's but finally installed some mevotech's,proper angle now.The 150 looks great leveled out with the stock wheels.

    • @luisinhoens90
      @luisinhoens90 5 лет назад

      I'm looking to level my 2014 Ram 1500 2WD with some 2.5" front coil spacers. Is there any noticeable impact to the ride or handling ?

    • @SBG_ARMS
      @SBG_ARMS Год назад

      How long did you wait till you got this uca’s?

  • @adamw.8354
    @adamw.8354 4 года назад +1

    Leveled my truck right away after getting it. Looks so much better. 40k miles with leveling kit and no issues.

    • @adamw.8354
      @adamw.8354 4 года назад

      @Omar Cazares I still use stock 20" wheels and tires. I went with just a small block kit (I think 1.25") that mounts at bottom of front shocks. Super easy to install. That leveled the truck perfectly. That's all I was going for, I never planned to get bigger tires.

  • @yvelf
    @yvelf 5 лет назад +14

    Just got a lariat and I do beleive the 2-1/2" leveling kit would look very good on the truck. The lift just over does it for me. Awesome vid!!! keepem coming.

  • @teop7887
    @teop7887 2 года назад

    My humble $0.02 :
    I have a 2019 w/ the FX4 and Max-Tow pkg, 20" stock rims, and was able to fit 34" tires STOCK. The key is metric vs standard tires sizes. Metric tires are narrower, therefore less chance of rubbing.
    I've installed 275/65 R20s (stock tires were 275/55 R20) Pirelli Scorpion, All-Terrain Plus. The metric measurement translates to 34.1" by 10.8" R20.
    NO LEVELING KIT NEEDED. Tires clear at full lock, no rubbing. You can find a couple of RUclips videos and posts in F150 forums on this tire size.
    I may level it in the future, but right now it looks fine and the tires do not poke, look nice and flush.
    Cheers!

  • @Timespartan111
    @Timespartan111 4 года назад +3

    2.5 inch front level with 2inch rear, on 35’s or 37’s with fiberwerx fenders and bedsides will make literally any truck look sick for under 3 grand and will still perform similar to stock, while allowing you to overcome any offroad obstacle other than insane rock climbing

  • @cap12206
    @cap12206 5 лет назад +150

    If it’s “real easy” to adjust your headlights, then why hasn’t he done it to his own truck? Bright lights in your face sucks

    • @corklj14
      @corklj14 4 года назад +7

      cap12206 the f150 has the pitch adjustment on top of the housing. It literally is turning one screw to get back to the correct height.

    • @Minnevan
      @Minnevan 4 года назад +18

      They have a big truck who cares about other driver safety?

    • @1960JCRAY
      @1960JCRAY 4 года назад +30

      Nothing worse than a dipshit with a leveling kit that neglects to readjust the headlights.

    • @johnjiii414
      @johnjiii414 4 года назад +6

      Yep exactly. He’s a tool.

    • @thebournlegacy5631
      @thebournlegacy5631 4 года назад +3

      JC RAY oh look, a kid who’s offended or upset by something completely minor and trivial, no surprise there 🙄

  • @thetruth1.613
    @thetruth1.613 4 года назад +8

    I have a 2" leveling kit on my 2017 F150 and 33's. No tire rub, no change in any performance or fuel mileage and with an alignment I payed a little over $300 for everything and I'm still parking in the garage. Lift your F150 and A) park outside forever or B) build a pole barn.

    • @25wsmfan56
      @25wsmfan56 3 года назад

      Truth What motor do you have and what is your gear ratio

    • @thetruth1.613
      @thetruth1.613 3 года назад

      @@25wsmfan56 5.0 and a 3:55.

  • @northjerseykevin3915
    @northjerseykevin3915 3 года назад +15

    Another great video. Back in the day I had a ridiculous lift kit with 39’s and loved it but now I like the level kits. They both have there place. Thanks for the videos

    • @dantecooper4705
      @dantecooper4705 3 года назад

      What’s their place I just bought my first truck and trying to make up my mind lol

  • @Dr.Acula787
    @Dr.Acula787 5 лет назад +5

    2:41 As a German this looks familiar to me... Joking aside, this were 9 minutes well spend and now I finally know what is the difference between Leveling and lifting and I can make an informed decision, which of this I want to do to my car. Thanks a lot! :-)

  • @KingofTx83
    @KingofTx83 3 года назад +3

    I currently have a 2015 F150 XLT on 305/55/20 Mickey's, and it's time for new tires. After watching this I really don't know which way to go now. Lift vs Level, bigger tires for a lift...etc.. However, I do think this was pretty good information.

  • @The_CrazyDragon
    @The_CrazyDragon 5 лет назад +245

    As anyone noticed the Amazon Flash thingy at 5:36 ?

  • @One.eyedfisherman
    @One.eyedfisherman Год назад

    Just picked up my first truck, 2017 ruby red f150 xlt sport. And I cant wait to get the leveling kit and tires looks so much better.

  • @BruceWillisiscool
    @BruceWillisiscool 4 года назад +19

    I love the leveled look. Subtle but noticeable at the same time, without looking douchey.

  • @xatasteofchaosx1457
    @xatasteofchaosx1457 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have a 3” RC lift kit on my 07 Avey LT. It does wear down your other suspension components a lot quicker, mainly bushings. I’ve thought about removing it and going back to stock.

  • @tonygarcia5081
    @tonygarcia5081 5 лет назад +738

    “The answer is yes, roll tide” 🤦🏻‍♂️ aight...imma head out.

    • @jacobsebastien3910
      @jacobsebastien3910 5 лет назад +24

      LSU 💪

    • @brentlopez926
      @brentlopez926 5 лет назад +16

      Go Tigers!

    • @dieselbrim
      @dieselbrim 4 года назад +7

      😂😂 that’s when I turned the video off

    • @MrTae254
      @MrTae254 4 года назад +11

      Lmao its crazy cause i said tha same thing #GeauxTigers 😂

    • @jaredmb585
      @jaredmb585 4 года назад

      wow... turning this off

  • @benjaminison564
    @benjaminison564 Год назад

    Leveling kit pro’s: you can fit bigger tires, gives you even clearance front to rear, if you’re in a parking garage you don’t have to worry about exceeding the max height in most cases.
    Cons: you will 100% west out your ball joints faster (you’ll usually have to replace them between 70k-150k miles depending on how hard you work your truck, with the level you’ll probably be closer to that 70k). Not really a con but you will not notice a difference with how smooth the ride is. Also a matter of preference but you will notice the rear end sag when hauling a trailer.
    Lift kit pros: you’re lengthening your suspension so any off tossing you will notice a significant difference in responsiveness, much smoother ride and are usually adjustable so you can stiffen/soften them as needed. You’ll have more options in terms of wheel and tire sizes for off road performance. You will have significantly more clearance which is great for off tossing because you won’t have as much dragging through mud/marsh.
    Cons: your towing capacity will be reduced, the truck is still capable, but with a higher center of gravity you will not be as stable when towing heavier loads so be mindful of that. Your gas or fuel mileage will be affected as well, you’ll notice it more with gasoline engines as your MPG is usually not as good in the first place as a diesel. You will be limited to where you can park based on ride height. Your turn radius will most likely be reduced. And this could be seen as a con(or a pro when justifying truck parts to your wife) you will almost definitely have to get new wheel and tires and possibly a stance kit.
    If you read all that, understand my adderal kicked in while watching this video so I info dumped on you at 8:00am. Hope this helped

  • @jamesjanisko4170
    @jamesjanisko4170 5 лет назад +138

    “Here’s the leveling kit...you’re not gonna be able to see it”
    Cameraman zooms into the wheel well anyways

  • @theupscriber65
    @theupscriber65 4 года назад

    I went from a stock height, full size short bed to a 6" lifted Bronco on 35s to a 7-1/2" lifted F100 shortbed (428/4-spd) on 38s to a levelled f150 to a stock height GMC diesel to a ram shortbed with a 2/4 drop to a Gwagon with 7" lift with 37s on 22" wheels back to a stock ride height old Ranger. Never owned a little truck before and it's my favorite for running around town and hauling material for projects around the house like decks and sheds. 7' bed is longer than the short bed trucks, ride height is easy to load and it's small and nimble so easy to park.

    • @theupscriber65
      @theupscriber65 4 года назад

      I forgot about my 429 swapped 1948 Ford F1 and the big block swapped into the Bronco. I fabricated all the lifts and engine mounts myself.

  • @justenhearn5179
    @justenhearn5179 2 года назад +3

    I'm not really a Ford guy.... I like my yotas but I will say you presented this video very well and very professional just with that alone I subbed. I will also say that the way you explained the difference between the leveling kit and lift kit was informative considering I'm thinking about leveling my tundra. Great job buddy.

  • @raptorrider24
    @raptorrider24 5 лет назад +1

    Really love the fact that y’all put BDS kits on your vehicles!! BDS is by far the best brand on the market and there’s no company that compares to the quality and warranty they have.

  • @boostedart88
    @boostedart88 5 лет назад +5

    Definitely leveling kit to not sacrifice handling, f150s handle pretty darn well even my 2002 5.4 super crew on 20s and big tire ,I travel from Tucson to Vegas all the time it grips good on the curves on the way o get to town I still make a pull never fails very solid trucks💪

    • @SBG_ARMS
      @SBG_ARMS Год назад

      Did you have to get aftermarket uca’s?

  • @ewfcowner1
    @ewfcowner1 4 года назад +1

    I purchased a 2017 F150 here in OHIO and it seems the previous owner had a level kit. This helped me determine this is true. Thanks for the video

  • @vincentmartinez2068
    @vincentmartinez2068 5 лет назад +9

    I'd take the leveling kit... Like the look, like stock ride, and truck to me would still be more useful... Would lose low profile tires on both however, not a fan of them.

    • @07slowbalt
      @07slowbalt 5 лет назад +3

      You mean them girl tires that the Mexicans have adopted first and now blowhard white guys think its cool?

    • @GhostOfAMachine
      @GhostOfAMachine 5 лет назад

      I got 5" drop kit on my truck and it made my life so much easier

  • @deadbang241
    @deadbang241 5 лет назад

    I have a 2014 F150 XLT and like it’s profile just the way it is !! I don’t do much hauling but , when I do , the back doesn’t look like it’s squatting !Thanks for the vid.

  • @marcm8209
    @marcm8209 3 года назад +4

    Love the vid, noticed your truck you did what I did . Removed the lower front air dam, even in the manual from ford said if you plan on driving in snow or off-road it should be removed. Mostly it looks way better without out! I personally went with 2" Fox coilver front and rear, fairly inexpensive and rides awesome!

  • @craigslistrro709
    @craigslistrro709 5 лет назад +1

    I did the leveling kit on my F150. stayed with the 18 inch stock chrome ford wheels and 275/70/18 cooper discoverers and tinted the windows dark, It gives it just enough attitude to look cool, without garnering unwanted attention.

  • @sean-yb5hc
    @sean-yb5hc 5 лет назад +6

    I actually really like them both but prefer the 3-4" lift look -IMO that's perfect with 35's

  • @silveradostornados6174
    @silveradostornados6174 5 лет назад +224

    Never get this done at a dealer they over charge for everything

    • @IdaKicker
      @IdaKicker 5 лет назад +64

      Never get anything done at a dealer...

    • @quantumleap4023
      @quantumleap4023 5 лет назад +30

      Never go to a dealer period. There's a reason they're called "dealers".
      The house always wins!

    • @austinbell1044
      @austinbell1044 4 года назад +6

      @@quantumleap4023 you gotta understand they have to make money and put food on the table too

    • @quantumleap4023
      @quantumleap4023 4 года назад +22

      @@austinbell1044 Thanks for the insight, I'll have to remember that one. I guess you can excuse just about anything with that argument.
      "Jeffrey Dahmer was just putting food on the table man." lol

    • @heavymetaltrucking4599
      @heavymetaltrucking4599 4 года назад +2

      @@austinbell1044 You may go ahead and support them!!!

  • @Latinoboriqualp
    @Latinoboriqualp 5 лет назад +39

    I chose leveling, it gives my truck a totally different look and didn't hurt my pocket...

    • @hanslanda8303
      @hanslanda8303 5 лет назад +7

      Luis Perez “totally different look” bit of a overstatement

    • @FalconChief222
      @FalconChief222 5 лет назад

      and I would just bet you spend more in gas and maintenance.

    • @kylebethel7299
      @kylebethel7299 4 года назад +1

      I did the same thing. Leveling kit different wheels and tires and took off my running boards. 100% different truck

    • @FIGNAS83
      @FIGNAS83 3 года назад

      Same here. Leveling kit with 33" tires

  • @oocombz
    @oocombz 4 года назад +1

    Just bought a 2019 left over with the 2.5 level and the same Nitto tires already on it. My 2016 F-150 was bone stock and I have to say the level and 35's are the best thing you can do to your F-150.

    • @drubrasi261
      @drubrasi261 4 года назад

      Any major differences between ur 16 and you 19? Besides any aftermarket products? I passed up on a 19 for my 15 just because I wasn't a fan of the new grilles...

    • @oocombz
      @oocombz 4 года назад

      @@drubrasi261 The Sync 3 system runs a lot better than the sync 2 did not sync 2 was a bad system This is just more smooth. See I like the Honeycomb style grill on mine more than the one on my 16. Though the other girl you can get on the f-150s in the 2019 look dumb.

    • @oocombz
      @oocombz 4 года назад

      @@drubrasi261 Also I will say this going from a 6-speed to a 10-speed transmission will take some getting used to but honestly now that I've driven the 10 speed for about 5,000 mi I really really enjoy it.

    • @drubrasi261
      @drubrasi261 4 года назад +1

      @@oocombz ahhh okay. But otherwise is interior and all the basics still the same? And yes I've heard the 10 speed transmissions need some getting used to.. is there any real benefits performance wise of a 10 speed? In the future im looking at getting into a newer f150 just can't afford it right now as I bought the one i have now and with me being 19 I dont have 50k for a new one either lol..

    • @oocombz
      @oocombz 4 года назад

      @@drubrasi261 Yeah they didn't do too many interior changes between the 16-19. 2020 saw a few more interior changes. The 10 speed get better fuel economy and to me tows better. Congrats on your truck man.

  • @shadowstang1980
    @shadowstang1980 4 года назад +147

    2019 : come meet me and shake my hand.
    2020: dont touch me you might have the Coronavirus

    • @KlassyKlauman
      @KlassyKlauman 4 года назад +2

      Lolz no joke toilet paper is like gold bars now also dont sneeze on him that's the scariest thing to do right now.

  • @caseyblakeney3149
    @caseyblakeney3149 Год назад

    Went 2’’ leveling kit and 33x12.50 all terrains on my 2021 f150 and man it looks good

  • @HomeOwnerTools
    @HomeOwnerTools 4 года назад +15

    Thanks for the info! You definitely cleared things up, a leveling kit is perfect!

  • @EnthusiastCarHangar
    @EnthusiastCarHangar 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for mentioning the headlights. It can be a real nightmare if trucks blind you on the highway.

  • @dallasbluecity8601
    @dallasbluecity8601 5 лет назад +26

    Hahaha he said it won’t even fit in my garage! Lmao sir please I don’t even have a garage in the first place so yes I’m watching a video of something I can’t even afford! /:

  • @93ChristineAnn
    @93ChristineAnn 5 лет назад +2

    No mention there of what I think is the biggest con to getting a list. Turning radius! Tough thing to measure but I'd guess my turning circle is now 50%+ bigger. Extremely tough getting in and out of parking spots in a lot with narrow lanes.

  • @mdkmetz
    @mdkmetz 4 года назад +3

    I’ve just started watching his videos and I find him to be a breath of fresh air is very informative and I don’t feel like he’s trying to sell me some great videos keep up the good work

  • @vickiecash148
    @vickiecash148 4 года назад +1

    Thx for this video. I have been trying to decide whether to level or lift. Now, I think leveling would be best for my 16 F-150.

  • @richardmiller9698
    @richardmiller9698 5 лет назад +273

    I can't take anything you say seriously with a lifted truck on low profile tires.

    • @califpv
      @califpv 5 лет назад +5

      Lol, you took the words right out of my mouth

    • @evensbaptiste6415
      @evensbaptiste6415 5 лет назад +36

      So what..... still looks nice and you still clicked on to look at it lol

    • @Kburd-wr6dq
      @Kburd-wr6dq 5 лет назад +18

      Evens Baptiste it really doesn’t

    • @evensbaptiste6415
      @evensbaptiste6415 5 лет назад +9

      @@Kburd-wr6dq that's your opinion

    • @Kburd-wr6dq
      @Kburd-wr6dq 5 лет назад

      Evens Baptiste nd the original commenter, so its not like I’m alone.

  • @jneuel3825
    @jneuel3825 3 месяца назад

    Hey man....I like you, bro. Just a tip. ( the ladies will notice) When you wear black shoes, your belt should match. Shoes, belts, and watches are all supposed to match. Great video, man, really helped me understand this.

  • @kwright-whittam2297
    @kwright-whittam2297 3 года назад +6

    Your video is super informative. I have only driven lifted trucks but decided to try leveling the newest rig. I didn't think I would like it...it's the cowgirl in me. Your video and information truly helped me make a decision. Geaux Tigers!

  • @jacaughron55
    @jacaughron55 5 лет назад +35

    The 35s will rub w the leveling kit .....
    No u won’t have any problems w the size ....

    • @MrCharizardTCG
      @MrCharizardTCG 4 года назад

      jacaughron55 so what size should I get ? For a 2006 stock lariat

    • @Matt_TX
      @Matt_TX 4 года назад +4

      with the 2.5" level 35s will not rub on the ford wheel wells. with the 2"or smaller they will.

    • @caseycallahan4438
      @caseycallahan4438 3 года назад

      @@MrCharizardTCG I’ve got 35’s on my 06 lariat. Stock ride height. Trimmed front air dam a bit, rubs a little only in reverse fully clocked

  • @Batmanstang
    @Batmanstang 5 лет назад +55

    You left out a big discussion topic: the effects on payload and towing.

    • @alextrainor2552
      @alextrainor2552 5 лет назад +2

      None of those numbers change

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 5 лет назад +19

      @@alextrainor2552 Yes they do, but you'll notice that all vehicles are raked, even passenger cars that have no tow rating. It has to do with underbody aerodyanmics, and leveling your truck will reduce fuel economy and highway stability.

    • @MegaCityOne
      @MegaCityOne 5 лет назад +9

      @@BoopSnoot I like the stock look. The lower front end looks sporty.

    • @NuttedInYoMom
      @NuttedInYoMom 5 лет назад +1

      @@MegaCityOne wth u doin here? Get back on yo purpose before u develop a scarsity mindset.

    • @kenboris9235
      @kenboris9235 5 лет назад +15

      Where i'm from, guys that lift their trucks dont tow anything, its all for looks. Which is retarded

  • @outdoorsanythingbonelli9318
    @outdoorsanythingbonelli9318 5 лет назад +1

    Would love to see a comparison for lifts such as stock vs 4 inch lift with 35's, stock vs 6 inch lift with 35's and then 4 inch vs 6 inch lift with 35's. To see a comparison to see what size lift id like to get in the future.

  • @MJ-fj9yv
    @MJ-fj9yv 5 лет назад +6

    Absolutely informative videos, good job guys. After watching the subpar quality and lack of any real brand benefits from your clips, i made a great decision and BOUGHT A TUNDRA!

  • @tundraspecialops
    @tundraspecialops 4 года назад +6

    Good work explaining the differences between a leveling and a lift kit. However, it's not that straight forward, and there are a lot more details that need to be shared.
    1. First question to ask: What is the reason for the lift? Looks, off-road etc? This is important, because the purpose of the question determines the type of lift and wheel/tire combo a person will need. Once you decide what your needs are then you can begin evaluation of the various types and brands of lift products.
    2. Types of level/lift kits:
    A) A LEVELING KIT as mentioned is designed to level the front of a truck with the rear. It provides the ability to install larger tires. It does not improve on or off-road ride in any way
    B) A BRACKET LIFT which was highlighted here, but was not actually identified, lifts the body higher above the frame. This moves the mounting points of the suspension, essentially extending them with brackets as seen on the grey truck. It is important to understand this is a lift that provides more height than a leveling kit; typically average bracket kits are from 4"-12". Because the effect of such an extreme change in the height geometry, additional suspension components are usually need to be purchased, this increases cost. One of the biggest causes of confusion is the belief this prepares a truck properly for off-road. Bracket kit manufactures and sales people alike improperly state that the increase in body height increases ground clearance. NO the body is lifted on the frame, the frame often maintains the same exact ground clearance as stock because the frame itself is not lifted. People will refute that, but mistake the difference of a gain of an inch or two is achieved when 35 or 37 inch tires are installed, not because of the bracket lift itself.
    C) A SUSPENSION LIFT this is what you want if you are interested in actually taking your rig off-road. So what is the difference? The difference is that suspension lifts correctly adds ground clearance, lifting the frame and by default the body, since it's attached to the frame. But the important caveat is that a suspension lift also increases articulation of the up and down wheel travel, depending on the level of performance of the selected suspension parts. This is important more than anything else and what makes a truck or SUV able to tackle rough terrain while keeping the wheels planted for needed control. Most off-road trucks typically only increase the lift by an average of 3", because that is all you need, remember, suspension lifts also increase actual ground clearance. And the 3" of lift and added ground clearance are enough to install 35" tires and get you over most terrain.
    So before getting a leveling kit, bracket lift or suspension lift, you have to decide what is the purpose or ultimate need for the lift. You can do a suspension lift and never go off-roading, or you can do a bracket lift and go off-roading with much less off-road performance. You can also combine a suspension and a level or bracket lift to save money, but still get some off-road performance. But a pure suspension lift will almost always be the best route if you choose to enjoy off-roading frequently. If off-roading is what you want, do it right the first time.
    The performance of wheels and tires weren't mentioned but they have their own rules for on and off-road. Because most factory trucks come with 20" wheels, there is a misconception that 20" wheels with off-road rubber (for off-roading) is the way to go. Can it be done? Yes, is it recommended for frequent off-roading? No. Why? Because, off-roading usually requires the need to air-down (reduce PSI) in the your tires to gain better traction. 20" wheels with 35" tires have very little tire wall to air down safely without damaging the rim if you come down on a rock or ledge. The ideal wheel size for 35 or 37" tires for off-roading is 17 or 18, preferably 17"s. 35" tires on 17" wheels have 9" of side wall to flex versus 7.5" on a 35" tire on a 20" wheel. While 1/5" does not seem like much, when you air down the difference becomes very noticeable. Often times too much wheel and too little tire cause more problems when off-roading.
    There is no right or wrong choice, just a need for a little more information for a person to decide what they want. If they want a level kit and go off-roading they can, if they want a suspension lift and never go off-roading they can do that too. I think the community deserves full disclosure of what's all out there.

    • @Amayi1
      @Amayi1 4 года назад +1

      Wow that's very insightful I've noticed lift has been reduced to looks over performance. That never gets talked about. It usually comes to how big can I go on tires and what do I have to do to make it happen? Thanks for putting this out there everytime I search for the best lift I end up with bigger tires reasons galore. I rarely come across anything about what you need to go offroad

    • @Roarmeister2
      @Roarmeister2 2 года назад

      Ha, this post has more information in it than the video! 🤣🎯

  • @nkyryry
    @nkyryry 5 лет назад +162

    “I’ve got 15,000 miles on mine and no issues”.... ya that’s one year of driving dude. Not exactly long term use lol.

    • @chunkiermango7982
      @chunkiermango7982 4 года назад +4

      15k is 1 year well I have 60k extra

    • @kevinfikes1920
      @kevinfikes1920 4 года назад +6

      Thats fair. I have a silverado 2015 with a 2.25 level and its been on for about 40k now. Ball joints and stuff seem as healthy as day one.

    • @2starweakfoot
      @2starweakfoot 4 года назад +9

      2004 f-150 with 138,000 leveled 2 in. still going strong and steady had her since 60k

    • @bearpaw7603
      @bearpaw7603 4 года назад

      Do you guys did leveling kit just for front or back too

    • @daniellau5859
      @daniellau5859 4 года назад +3

      @@bearpaw7603 leveling is usually for just the front suspension. The purpose of leveling is to get the front level with the rear.

  • @mauriciocastro7505
    @mauriciocastro7505 4 года назад +1

    Not sure if it was mentioned but, the lift kit means a higher center of gravity hence an impact on driving dynamics.

  • @squidlebot1214
    @squidlebot1214 4 года назад +12

    I dont know how I stumbled across this video, but I about died "Yeah, roll tide"

  • @nelsontrick5660
    @nelsontrick5660 5 лет назад +17

    idea, buy a power wagon or raptor. off road ready and engineered from factory correctly with the suspension and angles for the drive shaft and axles...

  • @flynlow4ever
    @flynlow4ever 5 лет назад +17

    Lowering the rear with drop shackles for leveling decreases the wheel gap and doesn't always require alignment, nor tires or wheels. Just another option ; )

  • @snach1983
    @snach1983 4 года назад +1

    I would say the only down side of a lift kit is once you go above 6" the vehicle starts having daily practical use issues.by no means am i talking crap about performance.i just mean the truck parking,parking garages,drive thru food places,atm use.it just get harder to do daily stuff but performance is not being criticized

  • @2009mechanic
    @2009mechanic 5 лет назад +6

    Now lets see you pull a 26' toy hauler camper with both lift kits.
    Tell me how that works for ya.
    I did the 2.0" front leveling kit from rough country and the "leveling" air bags for the rear>
    Pulls a big camper just fine all day long and doesn't seem to handle any different than before.

    • @gaknskk
      @gaknskk 4 года назад

      Best comment on here.
      I'm getting ready to do the same ,2" rc leveling with air bags in coil . I want to pull my 12' trailer with a 800lbs harley to Colorado and unhook and still be able to hit some trails in the mountains with my 05 Trailblazer

    • @gaknskk
      @gaknskk 4 года назад

      Did ya stay with the stock size tires as well ?

    • @2009mechanic
      @2009mechanic 4 года назад +1

      Yes , I'm still running stock tires with mine as it sits pretty close to stock height anyway except for the front.
      All it is is a 1 inch thick spacer that goes between the bottom front strut lower mount and the lower control arm.
      It pushes the front end up enought to keep that small lower plastic air dam from getting smoked on a curb as you pull up to it.
      There are the other ones that are just a plastic ring the goes between the TOP of the strut and its mount. I have NOT tried these .
      I'm concerned it would add extra play between the top of the strut mount that has a bearing in it and the frame mount.
      There is a LOT of potential for failure at that point I think. I could be wrong.
      Even this simple little modification DOES change your front end alignment ,A LOT ,SO HAVE YOUR APPOINTMENT MADE BEFORE YOU DO THE INSTALL AND DRIVE THE TRUCK AROUND UNLESS YOU LIKE BUYING TIRES.

  • @boston1450
    @boston1450 Год назад

    I gotta say i liked his truck over those 2 trucks. Looks awesome. Great honest info BTW

  • @jimmendez3510
    @jimmendez3510 3 года назад +17

    After the leveling kit is installed, what is the difference in the quality of the ride? Does it drive as smooth as the non modified suspension?

    • @geographyinaction7814
      @geographyinaction7814 2 года назад +4

      Levelling kits essentially lift the front end with no appreciable difference in handling. What will adjust your ride, tracking, and handling, is the larger tires that you use.

  • @snewton89
    @snewton89 4 года назад +2

    Awesome video! Very rare that a dealer helps with this stuff!

  • @dannyc4890
    @dannyc4890 5 лет назад +9

    That leveled black F150 is so clean. Shame Ford does not offer this as a FX4 package option.

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage 5 лет назад +2

      What do you mean? FX4 is just an option you can add to any 4x4 truck. It gives you locking rear diff, skid plates, hill descent control, slightly different shocks and floor liners, AT tires. That's it.

    • @lloydhendricks5370
      @lloydhendricks5370 5 лет назад +1

      @@ShersGarage He means it's a shame you can't get a small lift with the FX4 from the factory

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage 5 лет назад +1

      @@lloydhendricks5370 I see. Seems like a missed opportunity on Ford's part.

    • @07slowbalt
      @07slowbalt 5 лет назад

      @@ShersGaragemy 4x4 simply lacks skid plates, and the slightly different shocks. My xlt has AT tires, rear locker, and hill descent.

    • @delmar2169
      @delmar2169 5 лет назад +1

      @@michiganwanderer8655 no more Cd players in 19s

  • @drchangtorres
    @drchangtorres 3 года назад

    I have a 2" leveling kit on my 2017 XLT 2.7L Sports package and I love it!

  • @DapimpBDSD
    @DapimpBDSD 4 года назад +12

    "Ya, Roll Tide!" Great answer

  • @jasminebebe3455
    @jasminebebe3455 2 года назад

    My RAM 2500 has a 2.75" Thuren leveling kit and 37" tires. Not super tall but extremely capable. my leveling kit is not done with spacers, but with new coils and shocks.

  • @hundiddy
    @hundiddy 5 лет назад +38

    Real simple to calibrate the headlights yet you've never taken the time even though you've had people complain that you are blinding them? Nice.

  • @Timshot100
    @Timshot100 2 года назад

    Roush and Fox 2.0 leveling kit ! I got two things a level and a stellar performance kit with a better ride ! But it's 1600 bucks and it's worth every dime

  • @runswithsisors
    @runswithsisors 4 года назад +3

    what that means is those big tires and wheels will wear out your front suspention super quick

  • @sjb7963
    @sjb7963 4 года назад

    I LITERALLY just subscribed... ROLL TIDE! 🤣🤣🤣 I don’t even drive a Ford... I have a Ram but this guy is GREAT!

  • @joefigliola2106
    @joefigliola2106 5 лет назад +4

    6 inch all the way . I just did mine , love it

  • @f5fstop
    @f5fstop 9 месяцев назад

    Pretty simple. It's your truck, lift or level depends on what you want and many will actually do what is needed.
    If needed for looks, level is great; if that rake in the front bothers you.Also the cheapest way to go.
    If wanting or maybe needing larger tires a lift is the way to go. However, many do not use the lift for anything other than to make it look good to them and agreeably to others. However, in reality, they are not fun to drive; therefore, many do it because they are actually going to use it for off-roading in places like Moab UT. Others, like to make people think they really do serious off-roading; but don't.
    And yes, before it is stated, I lived in Moab for quite a few years had lifted and non-lifted vehicles. And for in the rocks, the lift was nice, on the highways, a level or no alteration was the best.
    However as noted, your truck, so do what ever you wish, but his video is ludicrous.

  • @Paiste18
    @Paiste18 5 лет назад +53

    Lift completely kills your resale value...Leveling costs way less and you're in much better shape when you go to trade in.

    • @thankfullife7968
      @thankfullife7968 5 лет назад +4

      August especially if you used garbage rough country that would be a huge devaluation

    • @carbonzo6
      @carbonzo6 5 лет назад

      August it only kills your trade in value, if you sell privately then no.

    • @highrailforlife9574
      @highrailforlife9574 5 лет назад +1

      It may cost less too do but will affect your wallet more with worn struts, increased tire wear and not being able to get a proper alignment

    • @ikeabrahammustang7113
      @ikeabrahammustang7113 5 лет назад +4

      @@highrailforlife9574 I'm new to all of this but can you please explain?

    • @hamdecousa1936
      @hamdecousa1936 Год назад

      Not true at All.!!

  • @charlespinson6693
    @charlespinson6693 5 лет назад +2

    Great post. I was in hopes that you would give information on towing capability or towing changes. Keep the post coming. Thank you

    • @BreckoniousMaximus
      @BreckoniousMaximus 5 лет назад +1

      I just made a post with how a level/lift will affect towing. Basically, your axle ratio will change which will lower how much you can tow significantly, especially if you throw 35's on. If you did a level with stock tire size, then the only change will be how much your rear end sags when hooked up to a trailer and gas mileage. I would definitely purchase rear airbags if you plan on towing with a leveling kit....well...I'd put airbags on period with a leveling kit, towing or not. If you use a WDH to tow with, the level will throw that off a bit without airbags to level it out. Hope this helps and good luck sir.

  • @lesstraveledroad6210
    @lesstraveledroad6210 5 лет назад +6

    Lifted looks so much better. But level is effective for DD

  • @rexl6930
    @rexl6930 4 года назад

    I agree go smaller rims not low profile on the lifted truck looks better and if you do go off road will perform much better. with that said if you are not going off road I say leveling kit with 33 in tire looks great and performs well with right tire.

  • @lloydhendricks5370
    @lloydhendricks5370 5 лет назад +11

    Wish I could afford it right now, but I'd get the 6" lifted truck!

  • @ajmpatriot4899
    @ajmpatriot4899 Год назад +1

    I used to think I preferred the front rake even lifted so I can see the road better.
    But now I like the leveled look, it’s muscular looking.

  • @robertjohnson2411
    @robertjohnson2411 4 года назад +3

    I would go with the Leveling over Lifting any day.

    • @DapimpBDSD
      @DapimpBDSD 4 года назад

      If i needed more clearance, I'd go with the lift kit. Leveling kit only for bigger tires.

  • @uCantCmee13
    @uCantCmee13 4 года назад

    Just so any of you are looking to lift your truck and worried about rubbing...I have a 2015 Platinum. It has a 6 inch lift with 20" dropstars and 35s(-24 offset) When I turn it still rubs. Thats just the nature of the beast.

  • @mdunhamful
    @mdunhamful 5 лет назад +99

    Are we just not going to mention the brown belt with the black shoes. Just saying. Well dressed 101

    • @Ghotra121
      @Ghotra121 5 лет назад +2

      😂😂

    • @ricknelson4764
      @ricknelson4764 5 лет назад +10

      And you are watching a truck video???, the justin bieber video is next on que for you

    • @mdunhamful
      @mdunhamful 5 лет назад +3

      Rick Nelson
      One way to make any truck look better.... is a pretty woman in the front seat. Fashion 101 buddy. Small basic things can help your appearance. Yes watching a truck video. However, we are watching a truck video about cosmetic changes to enhance trucks looks and appearance....
      #justinbeiberrocks

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 5 лет назад +2

      mdunhamful you were looking at his buldge we get it bud. These "things" are ok these days. No need to cover it up in a circumlocutory fashion.

    • @jamesegsmith
      @jamesegsmith 4 года назад

      @@mdunhamful Facts these dudes are just hating. The only reason to hate on Justin Bieber is pure jealousy. The dude seem super nice and probably gets more pussy than any of us. Over here with big trucks and tiny dicks trying to play people

  • @tylermanley5262
    @tylermanley5262 Год назад +1

    Love the look of the leveled truck with the stock wheels. Just wish the factory wheel finish was more durable.

  • @blueboy611
    @blueboy611 5 лет назад +18

    I'll take the F-150 with a with a 6-inch Lift

  • @richyrodz3810
    @richyrodz3810 4 года назад

    Not a ford guy but he's convincing me even tho thats not what this video is all about. Thanks, alot of good info. Leveling kit for me.

  • @MegaCityOne
    @MegaCityOne 5 лет назад +3

    I like the stock look. The lower front end looks sporty.

    • @gagelawson7879
      @gagelawson7879 5 лет назад

      // KILLZONE CHRONICLES \\ me too man! Love it on my 16 Chevy Colorado

  • @westcoasttanker
    @westcoasttanker 5 лет назад

    Leveling kit is perfect stance, that black truck to me is perfect.

  • @HaloMaster1243
    @HaloMaster1243 4 года назад +4

    his accent is absolutely magic at 0.25Xspeed

  • @jgalvar
    @jgalvar 4 года назад

    Level for sure but I suggest an add-a-leaf in the rear. That way if you tow your not the a-hole squatting and blinding everyone plus you get increased load capacity. Fwiw if you do rub with a level in the front you can always slightly press your crashbars out..say 0.5". Most of the fully lifted trucks just cut out the crash bars out anyways. Didn't hear him mention anything about safety difference

  • @ryanalbright1809
    @ryanalbright1809 5 лет назад +6

    Leveled Truck looks a lot better imo. Wheel fills up more of the wheel well.

  • @mr.tbennington
    @mr.tbennington 5 лет назад +2

    Flip phone with a belt clip. Classic. Great video

  • @The_Raging_Tanker
    @The_Raging_Tanker 5 лет назад +17

    Thought this was Town and Country in Nashville. 😂

  • @Bigjamez2011
    @Bigjamez2011 3 года назад +1

    Leveling kit seems perfect honestly .

  • @PewterC5FRC
    @PewterC5FRC 4 года назад +13

    05:36 Subliminal messaging from Jeff Bezos and our Amazon overlords.

  • @twiners2560
    @twiners2560 7 дней назад

    Talking about the headlights. That hand strait out and up like that, my Polish side felt somthing

  • @nicholasr79
    @nicholasr79 5 лет назад +46

    Who lifts a truck and leaves low profile tires on there? Why even lift it?

    • @Appalachianasshole41
      @Appalachianasshole41 5 лет назад +10

      They are called bro trucks, and are basically useless a good pothole will ruin you.

    • @mikehancho695
      @mikehancho695 5 лет назад +1

      Reminds me of mall crawler wranglers...got all that high performance add ons to get good and muddy but would rather pound the pavement up and down front beach road, then park at the sonic or Walmart parking lot with the neon underglows on...but why???
      Sorry, had to get that diatribe of my chest lol. But yeah, a lifted truck with massive wheels paired with low profile tires makes as much sense as a mall crawler...in my opinion

    • @adrianred4929
      @adrianred4929 5 лет назад

      Nicholas Sway what masked those tires low profile tires ? I really don’t know. Educate me

    • @TimKollat
      @TimKollat 5 лет назад +1

      They are all over the place. 18" wheels is as big as anyone should EVER put on a lifted truck.. they look like Mexican lifted lowriders🤔 with huge wheels... might as well bring back spinners