Great video mate! I just have the same error on my accord 2003 and thanks to you i know how it all works now and how to find possible solution! Great video.
Have u guys ,Honda Accord owners, ever get an inspection sticker PASS with this lights problems? I have an accord 2014 with same problem. Sometimes all 4 symbols lights off for minutes and return all 4 together to stay. I was thinking I still can pass inspection with this lights ON , cause it’s related to ABS Pls, someone lmk if passed inspection
Thanks for the video. I’ve removed the pump but I can get it back on. Can you explain how you performed the jump to retract the two rods in the VSA assembly? Thanks
How did you get the motor back in? The pins won’t let me get it back in, I even took it to a Honda motorcycle dealer and they didn’t know how to do it…
I have an 08 and just like 4 months ago the VSA, BRAKE and ABS lights are on, it started happening when I went to Tennessee I needed to rectify the disc cause it was shaking and it was so bad I had to manually shift to 3rd and second gear so after that the lights went on. I just took it to my mechanic and he changed the 4 brakes and new discs also plus all four sensor but still lights are on. 🙄 so he told me maybe changing the module but factory wants 1K plus, I guess I will leave it like that since it brakes and hmmm handles good. Any ideas? Thanks for video!
My 2015 Civic is had those lights but they only come on after driving for awhile but then once I stop turn the car off then let it sit for an hour or so the lights go of but than after driving for awhile again the lights comeback on but the car runs fine no problems with brakes or abs or power steering it’s got me baffled 🤔
Make sense my 2008 accord dispalying abs brake and vsa lights Fuse chekd Relays ckd Abs sensor ckd Steering align done My light doesnt come when i ignite the system They come on after a minute or so Im assuming its the abs module itself or may b motor as u said
I have a 2001 Acura tl and bad motor but I cab fix the motor. I had wondered if there was a trick to getting the motor shaft back in to engage the pump rods. Your solution will be tried. Thanks. I am disappointed in the way the ABS Control Module and motor is designed to deter replacing just the motor. Brush DC motors can all be repaired before they totally fail by replacing bearings and brushes after a thorough cleaning.
great video thank you , my 2014 accord has a code 34-11 and has the VSA ABS LDW power steering and early collision warning lights after an accident , been fixed no airbag and was repaired as it should .what do you advise ?? thank you bob Alabama
i got a question it seems like you are really profesional with this kind of stuff, i have a 2006 honda accord, and the abs light is on, and the code is 51 wich it says motor lock. at this point i really dont know if i have to change the whole part or is there anyway to unlock it, help pls, it all started with wone broken abs sensor i changed it and after i changed it i got this code help pls, thanks.
hello george i have been watching you videos and learned alot of different things on how to fix and repair acuras but my issue is the vsa awd because i replaced the unit abs vsa and i also took it apart and it would not come apart i have a 2005 acura rl and i was wondering have you ever come across the issue where this is happening because its driving me crazy i know the front wheels on the awd are ok on the display and the rears dont show or move in the display i asked the dealer and they told me it might have to be recalibrated but they wont and dont want to give the software for the vehicle so my question is have you been able to work around the dealer oem software
I need help with putting that motor back together. You were talking about it @7:02 but incomplete. Do you have another video that you can share. Thanks
Great video I just have a question what happens when your abs module is bad what does the car do when you hit the brakes can you please let me know thank you I will subscribe
@@JM-yx1lm when I stop hard the car is not stable it feels like the the rear of the car swings a little then the front that Scarry do u know what it could be
Do you have a video of how to push pins back in. I connected positive and negative on battery terminal hit the switch with red n nothing with black and nothing
I was wondering if you could be more specific on how you got the motor back back into the block. I took mine out and cannot get it back in. I would appreciate any further details you could provide. My impression thus far is that you ran 12v DC to the ABS motor and somehow that allows it to go in, but I'm not exactly sure if that's what you meant. I'm stuck and appreciate any help you could provide. I should have just replaced the ABS module, but got ahead of myself. Thanks!
Im stuck i cant get thr pins back in is there a video were u show how to do it i ram a cable from battery to the indide of the module. Push the small connector down and nothing happens tia
Can you show how you got the motor back in? How did you move the two pin out out the way? For the DIYers, the many of the Honda ABS motor is impossible to put it back in....So if your ABS unit is good don't remove the motor or you're totally screwed. Thump down for advising against doing this or show how it was done (not possible). Sorry!
I have same problem, vey difficult to put together after you remove the motor from the abs module block distributor . I have 2008 Honda accord. I can't put back on like you
@@osemoborisaac8976 Ended up getting another used module and should have never taken it apart in the first place. You are able to put it back. You have to use positive and negative alligator clips and give it power from the other side and push once the motor spins.
@@mdogg3286 biting the bullet and taking it to the dealership and hope to god the vsa modulator solves it. I’ve read on some threads that they’d pay all that money and problem wouldn’t go away.
I put up a video on how to put the motor back in. This one doesn’t show how to and a lot of people are having issues getting the motor back in after removing it for testing.
My ABS/TCS/Brake lights came on about a month ago. Got my Blue Driver scan tool out and says it is a 121-11 code (VSA solenoid failure - Regulatory valve LF or RR). This is on my 2012 Honda Accord. I take it to Honda on Monday to see if they can diagnosis what is wrong. I am hoping they don't try and screw me on this repair.
@@MischeifMakerz Yes, I had to replace my VSA modulator on my car. Honda wanted $1500 for the part but I got the modulator for one-third the price (used) and Honda installed for me. Saved me ~ $1,000.
I say prove me wrong sir! I dare you to take it out again and show us just how you powered it up while sliding it in! I think the way your explaining how to reinstall the motor, while every conveniently not showing it at all, is completely impossible! You took it off, like everyone else and discovered it wasn’t going back on! To save face you bought another pump then showed it after you installed it. I’ve repaired automobiles for 30 years. Mercedes,Porsche,Lexus. The only way I was able to this was by gently prying the bearing off the shaft and pushing the bearing in first then The pump motor shaft into the bearing. It’s not easy. You can not just push the bearing in flat,because the pins won’t move back. This is hard to explain. Imagine the bearing laying flat on a table. This is the position its in when installed. Now before you install it Turn the bearing up on it edge,like it’s a wheel on the table top.in this position it could roll across the theoretical table top. In this position you push it into the circle it normally sits in flush, laying flat. But you push its edge into the 3 and 6 o’clock positions of the pens. Push it in edge first will push back the pins, then push it down flat into the hole it lays flat in. Then push the motor shaft back into the bearing and then put the screws in and gently go around and evenly pull the motor back down flush to the housing. Good luck. I would definitely just put in the whole pump assembly and bleed the brakes if I ever had to do it again. Good luck to all that try.
Has anyone done a used vsa module? Honda is back ordered on it. Can I use any 9th generation vsa module as long as it matches motor size and transmission?
Had the same issue they recommended dot 5 brake fluid due to not getting too much moisture and module lasting longer after replacing abs module 2014 exl 2.2. 4 cyl
honda avoid to use silicone fluids in this electrics pumps the original Honda fluid it’s lf4 that’s smells like Castor oil and it’s a kind of light orange color some times other brake fluids brands can cause a failure code few miles Ecu processing and disconect the abs or the electric pump and cause accidents same to eps the motor is disconnected by the ecu to protect the system causing accidents to the persons a really dumb idea from Honda
I have all the same lights on. Honda dealer said I have to replace the whole VSA module. I am curious if maybe something simple short of replacing the whole thing could be the issue. This part at my dealer cost like $1300
Hi I have a 2014 Honda Accord EX-L 3.5 litre and have several lights on my dashboard that come and for the most part stay on (ABS, BRAKE, LDW, FCW , Steering Positioning, traction control lights) took it to the honda dealer today and they said its the Starter Motor Binding , & VSA module internal failure we need help without having to pay out so much that it would choke a Rhino please help my name is MIchelle P .
J Vieira Have u guys ,Honda Accord owners, ever get an inspection sticker PASS with this lights problems? I have an accord 2014 with same problem. Sometimes all 4 symbols lights off for minutes and return all 4 together to stay. I was thinking I still can pass inspection with this lights ON , cause it’s related to ABS Pls, someone lmk if passed inspection 1 segundo atrás
@@imtoxicking I noticed that this is really common problem even a year after I replace it from Honda dealer. The way I fix that just by "Never" turn On Econ mode. Reason why because that ABS need lots of power. Turning ON "Econ" mode that only use less power actually reduce electric power send to ABS and make the light indicator ON especially if we have lots of charger cord in cabin. Since then, I never have this issue no more.
@@imtoxicking It will take a while for that to affect since this is part of the chip shortage. I went to dealer two months ago because ABS light On like 5 of them at the same time. It was quote about $2,200 which is higher $400 than what I paid 2 years ago. Dealer said because the chip shortage, they increase the price and I also need to wait for 2 months for the part to arrived. They eventually have to put my car in their garage for 2 months after I have to pay $150 inspection fee. You know I was Mad 😡 as hell there and refuse to pay the $150 quote and have my car stay there for the next 2 months. They finally called their general manager after I scream out loud 📢 "I Can Put this Dealer out of business!!". The general manager finally came to talk to me and give me solution about the common ABS problem. Finally they let me get my car back and waived $150 fee. After I drove about 2 days with "Econ" mode off , "voila" those ABS light shut off and never turn On again until today. Hope someone will do what your recommendation which is the Best opinion so far. My car is almost 300K miles and only last another 50K or 100K if am lucky. Thank you.
George Melnik I also have similar problem but in my case the abs module was replace because it was cracked open and activated all the light on the dash “xmas tree”. Now i have got the complete unit replaced but the lights are still there. Do you have any advice. Does it need some kind of programing learning. Had my car scanned and the shop claim all sensors just need to drive it???? Sound like BS to me?
i am having the same lights on 2015 accord lx but after a while all this lights will go away then come back on again but never stay on for long period of time
I had the same problem... I had to flush the brake system 5x time then forced the ABS and VSA to kick while test driving. So far it fixed my problem. I believe that if you have dirty brake fluid, it contaminate the VSA solenoid in the pump. Honda should have a Technical service bulletin for that issue
افحص الفيوزات اولا، اذا كانوا شغالين الخطوه التاليه انك تفحص المتور يلي موصول بالماكينة مال ال ABS (الاسطوانية الشكل) اوصلها بالكهرباء لتتأكد انها شغاله، اذا كانت شغاله بكون العطل من ماكينة ال ABS نفسها
Great video mate! I just have the same error on my accord 2003 and thanks to you i know how it all works now and how to find possible solution! Great video.
Have u guys ,Honda Accord owners, ever get an inspection sticker PASS with this lights problems? I have an accord 2014 with same problem. Sometimes all 4 symbols lights off for minutes and return all 4 together to stay. I was thinking I still can pass inspection with this lights ON , cause it’s related to ABS Pls, someone lmk if passed inspection
@@jvieira480 I’m in the same boat right now. I’m due for inspection & I have all these lights on my dash as well.
Thanks George I found this really informative!
great video , thank you for all your grat information , it works for me
Excellent tip and excellent explanation!!
how do you get those pins to suck back in? I took the back cover off but still cant get them to go back in
Thanks for the video. I’ve removed the pump but I can get it back on. Can you explain how you performed the jump to retract the two rods in the VSA assembly? Thanks
How did you get the motor back in? The pins won’t let me get it back in, I even took it to a Honda motorcycle dealer and they didn’t know how to do it…
Nah bro u can get it back in u have to finesse a bit with a little luck
How? I tried a lot, the Honda dealer as well. we both weren’t able to put it back. The video doesn’t show it either.
I have the same problem
Were u guys able to get the motor in the pins stops it I am tired
I have an 08 and just like 4 months ago the VSA, BRAKE and ABS lights are on, it started happening when I went to Tennessee I needed to rectify the disc cause it was shaking and it was so bad I had to manually shift to 3rd and second gear so after that the lights went on. I just took it to my mechanic and he changed the 4 brakes and new discs also plus all four sensor but still lights are on. 🙄 so he told me maybe changing the module but factory wants 1K plus, I guess I will leave it like that since it brakes and hmmm handles good. Any ideas? Thanks for video!
My 2015 Civic is had those lights but they only come on after driving for awhile but then once I stop turn the car off then let it sit for an hour or so the lights go of but than after driving for awhile again the lights comeback on but the car runs fine no problems with brakes or abs or power steering it’s got me baffled 🤔
I went to the dealer for by 2013 civic. They said its the VSA Module. Can I just replace the motor like you did?
Make sense my 2008 accord dispalying abs brake and vsa lights
Fuse chekd
Relays ckd
Abs sensor ckd
Steering align done
My light doesnt come when i ignite the system
They come on after a minute or so
Im assuming its the abs module itself or may b motor as u said
I have a 2001 Acura tl and bad motor but I cab fix the motor. I had wondered if there was a trick to getting the motor shaft back in to engage the pump rods. Your solution will be tried. Thanks. I am disappointed in the way the ABS Control Module and motor is designed to deter replacing just the motor. Brush DC motors can all be repaired before they totally fail by replacing bearings and brushes after a thorough cleaning.
How did you put the pump back into the module? There is a tiny bearing which is hard to snap in. Could you please share
great video thank you , my 2014 accord has a code 34-11 and has the VSA ABS LDW power steering and early collision warning lights after an accident , been fixed no airbag and was repaired as it should .what do you advise ?? thank you
bob Alabama
i got a question it seems like you are really profesional with this kind of stuff, i have a 2006 honda accord, and the abs light is on, and the code is 51 wich it says motor lock. at this point i really dont know if i have to change the whole part or is there anyway to unlock it, help pls, it all started with wone broken abs sensor i changed it and after i changed it i got this code help pls, thanks.
Very nice ser
hello george i have been watching you videos and learned alot of different things on how to fix and repair acuras but my issue is the vsa awd because i replaced the unit abs vsa and i also took it apart and it would not come apart i have a 2005 acura rl and i was wondering have you ever come across the issue where this is happening because its driving me crazy i know the front wheels on the awd are ok on the display and the rears dont show or move in the display i asked the dealer and they told me it might have to be recalibrated but they wont and dont want to give the software for the vehicle so my question is have you been able to work around the dealer oem software
Loved video!
Great video can you tell us how to get the electrical harness disconnected?
I need help with putting that motor back together. You were talking about it @7:02 but incomplete. Do you have another video that you can share. Thanks
If this happens, does something burn out in the block?
Great video I fix my problem whit my Accord 2015
Hi how did you close those pins
Great video I just have a question what happens when your abs module is bad what does the car do when you hit the brakes can you please let me know thank you I will subscribe
It will stop like normal except for the hard breaking skip that they abs would do
@@JM-yx1lm when I stop hard the car is not stable it feels like the the rear of the car swings a little then the front that Scarry do u know what it could be
Stops like a car without abs.
Do you have a video of how to push pins back in. I connected positive and negative on battery terminal hit the switch with red n nothing with black and nothing
interesting videos man!
I was wondering if you could be more specific on how you got the motor back back into the block. I took mine out and cannot get it back in. I would appreciate any further details you could provide. My impression thus far is that you ran 12v DC to the ABS motor and somehow that allows it to go in, but I'm not exactly sure if that's what you meant. I'm stuck and appreciate any help you could provide. I should have just replaced the ABS module, but got ahead of myself. Thanks!
Yes I connected 12 volt from battery
@@melniksmotors Great! Thanks so much for your quick reply.
I tried that and did not work for me, have to replace the whole thing now
Im stuck i cant get thr pins back in is there a video were u show how to do it i ram a cable from battery to the indide of the module. Push the small connector down and nothing happens tia
Good job brother it's helps
What did the accident cause to your car? In other words,what are the damages due to the accident?
Excellent
Can you show how you got the motor back in? How did you move the two pin out out the way? For the DIYers, the many of the Honda ABS motor is impossible to put it back in....So if your ABS unit is good don't remove the motor or you're totally screwed. Thump down for advising against doing this or show how it was done (not possible). Sorry!
Possible, just did one without replacing the whole thing. Just need to power up the motor and it'll slide it back in place
Matthew Ma how do you power the motor?
@@kennethmclendon7849 the pin between the motor and module can be pull out. Wrap some tape around it and give it ground and power
Matthew Ma just to clarify, I’m powering the motor while attempting to slide it back into the module correct?
@@kennethmclendon7849 yes, just tap it once while pushing it in.
Good info
Hey George, how did you get the motor pump back in once taking it out? There seem two be bolts blocking it when I try to push it back in.
I have same problem, vey difficult to put together after you remove the motor from the abs module block distributor . I have 2008 Honda accord. I can't put back on like you
@@osemoborisaac8976 Ended up getting another used module and should have never taken it apart in the first place. You are able to put it back. You have to use positive and negative alligator clips and give it power from the other side and push once the motor spins.
Good job sir
Thanks
I got a code 81-19 yaw rate sensor failure dealer said its the vsa modulator 1,153 dlls
Did you end up getting it fixed? I’m getting the same code
Did you get it fixed ?
@@mdogg3286 biting the bullet and taking it to the dealership and hope to god the vsa modulator solves it. I’ve read on some threads that they’d pay all that money and problem wouldn’t go away.
Where is the relay located
I put up a video on how to put the motor back in. This one doesn’t show how to and a lot of people are having issues getting the motor back in after removing it for testing.
Where is it? I went to your sight and couldn't find it.
I found it. ruclips.net/video/V4C6-oH-sU0/видео.html. Thank you.
@@mikehook98446 ruclips.net/video/V4C6-oH-sU0/видео.htmlsi=MOANkqaHmyhQFn9m
My ABS/TCS/Brake lights came on about a month ago. Got my Blue Driver scan tool out and says it is a 121-11 code (VSA solenoid failure - Regulatory valve LF or RR). This is on my 2012 Honda Accord. I take it to Honda on Monday to see if they can diagnosis what is wrong. I am hoping they don't try and screw me on this repair.
Any update on this? I have code 121-01 and dont know how to proceed. I may try to repair the abs computer motherboard…
@@MischeifMakerz Yes, I had to replace my VSA modulator on my car. Honda wanted $1500 for the part but I got the modulator for one-third the price (used) and Honda installed for me. Saved me ~ $1,000.
I say prove me wrong sir! I dare you to take it out again and show us just how you powered it up while sliding it in! I think the way your explaining how to reinstall the motor, while every conveniently not showing it at all, is completely impossible! You took it off, like everyone else and discovered it wasn’t going back on! To save face you bought another pump then showed it after you installed it. I’ve repaired automobiles for 30 years. Mercedes,Porsche,Lexus. The only way I was able to this was by gently prying the bearing off the shaft and pushing the bearing in first then The pump motor shaft into the bearing. It’s not easy. You can not just push the bearing in flat,because the pins won’t move back. This is hard to explain. Imagine the bearing laying flat on a table. This is the position its in when installed. Now before you install it Turn the bearing up on it edge,like it’s a wheel on the table top.in this position it could roll across the theoretical table top. In this position you push it into the circle it normally sits in flush, laying flat. But you push its edge into the 3 and 6 o’clock positions of the pens. Push it in edge first will push back the pins, then push it down flat into the hole it lays flat in. Then push the motor shaft back into the bearing and then put the screws in and gently go around and evenly pull the motor back down flush to the housing. Good luck. I would definitely just put in the whole pump assembly and bleed the brakes if I ever had to do it again. Good luck to all that try.
as you put the motor???
Did You have to Re-Flash the ECU After This?
No, the car will automatically reprogram it itself
Has anyone done a used vsa module? Honda is back ordered on it. Can I use any 9th generation vsa module as long as it matches motor size and transmission?
I have a 08 honda crv and the vsa and check engine light came on at same time
Had the same issue they recommended dot 5 brake fluid due to not getting too much moisture and module lasting longer after replacing abs module 2014 exl 2.2. 4 cyl
honda avoid to use silicone fluids in this electrics pumps the original Honda fluid it’s lf4 that’s smells like Castor oil and it’s a kind of light orange color some times other brake fluids brands can cause a failure code few miles Ecu processing and disconect the abs or the electric pump and cause accidents same to eps the motor is disconnected by the ecu to protect the system causing accidents to the persons a really dumb idea from Honda
I have all the same lights on. Honda dealer said I have to replace the whole VSA module. I am curious if maybe something simple short of replacing the whole thing could be the issue. This part at my dealer cost like $1300
Did you fix it? I took it to the dealer and 1800 to fix
@@BlancaHernandez-lm6zs Not yet. It will be around that much to fix :(
Jerome Griffin I am trying to get a vsa module. Honda says they don’t have any available, shortage. Did you get your done?
@@tonyfeldscher2209 They are on back order unfortunately
Jerome Griffin I picked a used one up, 12,000 miles. Fingers crossed it works.
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How much does this cost at the shop
An abs module costs a ton!!!! Go to junkyard!!!
It is very easy to fix
How do I get the motor back in
How do you close the pins
Did you have a DTC error code?
Hello i have to a problem to repair a vsa for my jazz honda help me please
Hi I have a 2014 Honda Accord EX-L 3.5 litre and have several lights on my dashboard that come and for the most part stay on (ABS, BRAKE, LDW, FCW , Steering Positioning, traction control lights) took it to the honda dealer today and they said its the Starter Motor Binding , & VSA module internal failure we need help without having to pay out so much that it would choke a Rhino please help my name is MIchelle P .
Did you get it fixed??
Where are you located
Hey bro how can I get the motor back in Those two pins are giving me a headache
Did you ever figure it out bro?
The creator says to apply 12v. But that doesn’t work. I’ve tried.
Did yall figure how to out pins back in
Tengo un problema con vsa código 121 -01
How to activate the motor when you put everything back on it
Did you figure it out
I also honda technician
J Vieira
Have u guys ,Honda Accord owners, ever get an inspection sticker PASS with this lights problems? I have an accord 2014 with same problem. Sometimes all 4 symbols lights off for minutes and return all 4 together to stay. I was thinking I still can pass inspection with this lights ON , cause it’s related to ABS Pls, someone lmk if passed inspection
1 segundo atrás
It is very easy to fix.
@@imtoxicking I noticed that this is really common problem even a year after I replace it from Honda dealer.
The way I fix that just by "Never" turn On Econ mode.
Reason why because that ABS need lots of power. Turning ON "Econ" mode that only use less power actually reduce electric power send to ABS and make the light indicator ON especially if we have lots of charger cord in cabin.
Since then, I never have this issue no more.
@@imtoxicking It will take a while for that to affect since this is part of the chip shortage. I went to dealer two months ago because ABS light On like 5 of them at the same time.
It was quote about $2,200 which is higher $400 than what I paid 2 years ago. Dealer said because the chip shortage, they increase the price and I also need to wait for 2 months for the part to arrived.
They eventually have to put my car in their garage for 2 months after I have to pay $150 inspection fee.
You know I was Mad 😡 as hell there and refuse to pay the $150 quote and have my car stay there for the next 2 months.
They finally called their general manager after I scream out loud 📢 "I Can Put this Dealer out of business!!".
The general manager finally came to talk to me and give me solution about the common ABS problem.
Finally they let me get my car back and waived $150 fee.
After I drove about 2 days with "Econ" mode off , "voila" those ABS light shut off and never turn On again until today.
Hope someone will do what your recommendation which is the Best opinion so far. My car is almost 300K miles and only last another 50K or 100K if am lucky.
Thank you.
Can you tell me how to calibrate TCS Light accord 2017 without scanner
You can jump pin 4 and 9 of your obd 2 connector. If i get a car in ill do it 4 u
George Melnik I also have similar problem but in my case the abs module was replace because it was cracked open and activated all the light on the dash “xmas tree”.
Now i have got the complete unit replaced but the lights are still there. Do you have any advice. Does it need some kind of programing learning.
Had my car scanned and the shop claim all sensors just need to drive it???? Sound like BS to me?
indonesia
i am having the same lights on 2015 accord lx but after a while all this lights will go away then come back on again but never stay on for long period of time
I had the same problem... I had to flush the brake system 5x time then forced the ABS and VSA to kick while test driving. So far it fixed my problem. I believe that if you have dirty brake fluid, it contaminate the VSA solenoid in the pump. Honda should have a Technical service bulletin for that issue
so you tell people about the pins in after they got the motor out 😅
Is safe to drive the car to the shop.
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افحص الفيوزات اولا، اذا كانوا شغالين الخطوه التاليه انك تفحص المتور يلي موصول بالماكينة مال ال ABS (الاسطوانية الشكل) اوصلها بالكهرباء لتتأكد انها شغاله، اذا كانت شغاله بكون العطل من ماكينة ال ABS نفسها
You should have showed the pins.. makes no sense to make a video if you dont shows the steps
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Hi how did you close those pins
That is my question as well