Southside Rabbi: [S2 E11: Reading While Black: A Conversation with Esau McCaulley]
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- What up, family?! In this episode, we sit down with author and professor, Dr. Esau McCaulley!
We had an encouraging and hilarious time discussing his book "Reading While Black", as well as touching on God's Word, the experience of Jesus on Earth, social location, and many aspects detailed in the book. So cook you up some grits (however you like it), hit the play button and rock with us!
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"I don't have to be in power to have victory", so multilayered. This is one of the episodes you have to watch twice; empowering + thought-provoking. Definitely added the book to the cart.
Yes sis, I’m on round two right now
Thank you for rocking with us, Nancy! Much appreciated. God bless
"The blood is sufficient to cover that failure." That is a good word and requires much grace on both sides.
THAT IS WHY GOD’s WORD IS SO AMAZING! Regardless of time, place, or audience. It will ring true each and every time. That is why it lives eternally.
Amen, thank you for joining the conversation, Jenny!
Nah I’m black and I love me some Key and Peele; they just funny guys 😂
FAX
“It is not good for your soul to be stepped on forever.” - Esau 🤯
55:49 - Whoa! I have a tattoo of the word "Remember" in Hebrew on my forearm to help me remember to remember. "Remember that you were slaves in Egypt." This insight from Dr. Esau is huge.
Awesome! Thank you, for rocking with us, R.J.!
I read the bible and I see the prophecy of black people from my hewbrew ancestors in Egypt going into slavery 1000 0f years later out of Europe and Africa to the Americas and island I fully understand that God will and words are not written in vain
So rich so rich! Thankful for ya'll.
"Black hermeneutics are not simply neutral they’re challenging the dominate culture!" - Dr. Esau McCaulley
Gonna watch this again cause quite frankly Idk where else to go to find entertainment intellect biblical wisdom theology and news from people that look and talk like me ...born again believers might I add. I appreciate this show so much
Why would it matter that they look like you?
@@SirWalrusButt556 That’s a good question bro. I’ll say this, many black and brown brothers in my community are not doing positive things . The same image is portrayed in popular media. It’s deeply discouraging to me.
I love to see everyone win, and especially desire everyone to live a fulfilled life in Christ . So when I see so many people that look like me so far from this Truth and this Life it hurts. I believe these two can help lead this particular demographic I speak of to Christ. I could go on and on about this but it would be better have a conversation like this in person. One last thing I’ll say is that most of my favorite pastors and scholars our old white man…lol and I love them to death. So these two are a breath of fresh air, and inspire people my age and even younger to Study our Bibles and theology in depth, value education and constant spiritual growth
I thank Jesus for this podcast!
Thank you for joining us, Scott! God bless you
Key and Peele are hilarious 😂
Dr. Easu is a breath of fresh air. GOD bless him 🙏🏿 .
Much Love to you Brothers in the faith! You guys eloquently articulated the problem that wilfully keeps most of us African American Christians in the sunkenplace.
As a Native American man myself, I've always loved and appreciated the history of both minorities and our struggles, but I've particularly benefited a TON and learned to appreciate even more the African Americans history through the north and south divide, slavery, jim crow laws etc. And how yall have COME UP literally! Through soo much struggle and pain yall have risen above the standards of the racist whites over the centuries, and not to say all whites are racists of course, but the main problems in the systemic racism that has been present and is still being shown to be very present in our time with all the crazy killings of African Americans men and woman by the POLICE! its crazy honestly, but I just wanted to say that even as a native American man who came to faith at age 18 fresh out of gang life, hip hop upbringing etc, God actually used Christian hip hop artists like The Gospel Gangstaz as clubs and parties and it really spoke to me..... then when I accepted Christ shortly after through my christian aunties prayers I'm sure, I started my walk with Christ by being gifted with a Cross Movement album Called Higher Definition! It was ON from there! Lol Christ used Hip hop my past "learning language" so to speak to minister the Gospel to me, and Sanctify me over the years, and I actually got onto Pastor Eric Masons ministry at that time as well which really blessed me and his books and ministry STILL do. I've been buying books like 'The Warmth Of Other Suns' and other books to learn from African history.
Like all of yalls shows, this one was challenging, edifying, and fun. I appreciate your voices on issues that are hot in culture right now. I definitely need to pick up Reading While Black and can’t wait for the NT Commentary and children’s Bible by Esau!
God bless!
This Southside Rabbi listener is from Marion, Indiana excited to see KB at Indiana Wesleyan University! Your podcast has helped open my eyes more than any others.
This podcast was amazing!!!!! I’m so happy I found it!!!! We need this. As a writer, I’m so encouraged.
I just finished binging this whole podcast. Sooooooo good. Y’all please don’t stop 😩 We need this 🥴
Thank you for listening, Shae! God bless
Thank you for this podcast. Excellent presentation and discourse.
Thanks for listening, John!
Love this dialogue. Esau has a podcast called the disruptors. Waiting on season 2. Season one is 🔥. I got a lot of his guest’ books who were on the show. Kudos to south side rabbi!
Excited for this one! Two of my faves coming together.
I like him. He don't sound like a Voddie
Amén lol 😅😅😅
I would like to see Voddie on the show, as both parties involved seem faithful to the Word, and yet are completely opposed on how the Gospel relates to what’s happening in 2021 with regards to racism.
😂😂. However I don’t think Voddie got it all wrong, it just feels that the church found another dividing topic and can’t seem to accept that each side has some good points. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus, and may He give us the eyes to see things like He does
@@M_Ophelie I agree! lol. I do believe that he does have some good points, but I do side eye him on certain topics 😂.
Thank y’all for dropping these a cappella bars week to week. It’s rich soul food for me in this season 🙏🏾
Bro this was so life giving!!!! Let’s go!!
Guys! This is so rich! Thank you for this.
Bruh Bruh, I was all on the Patreon audio, and I gotta watch this one. Love this podcast!!
Listen, this introduction is the funniest so far!!!! You guys are hilarious
Thanks for joining the convo, Leis'l!
Wow! Southside Rabbi, this right here was the best episode yet! Dr . McCaulley has been a huge blessing in this episode. He dropped so many diamonds (KB was writing it down:). Thank you Dr. McCaulley!
Such a powerful episode, honestly paradigm shifting
I just listened to this. Shout out to Dr. Jarvis Williams! I love that man. I studied under him. Also, I agree with our brother, Esau, if our people can leave these toxic churches and environments, they should. Start churches and build our people in the love of our King, Jesus Christ. Listen, y’all, in our side of the world, the Diaspora in Puerto Rico, grits are made with sugar and milk!!! 😂
I just have one issue with the whole conversation. I have a problem with the term ‘black Christianity’, because it feels all black people are encompassed in the conversation. I am black woman raised in Africa. Being saved in Africa, I don’t necessarily have the same issues as black Americans. We have our own issues and many different cultures on the continent. And I can say that they are huge differences between how Christianity looks like in my country and how it looks like in a neighboring country. So maybe consider that not all black people are represented by black people in America.
I think the term "black" doesn't really apply to us (especially in the context of the US). The very concept of black fails to hold water when one spends some time pretty much in any African society. It's a Western concept that only really works in a Western setting.
Plus African-Americans are a distinct ethnicity now, you can't map any of them to specific kingdoms on the continent, there was so much admixture over the centuries. So I think it's safe to assume that even though we share ancestry, the term black only applies to them and not us continental Africans.
But in general conversation, we entertain the term because many Americans can't tell the difference and it'd take so much more time and effort educating them.
I love how y’all build off each other lmbooo
This entire conversation is EVERYTHING I needed today. Thank you so much. God bless you all!!!!
"Why don't you ask people who were actually in slavery what they think about this text?"..."What would I say to someone who was in slavery...?"..."The opressed writing to the opressed for the purpose of justice..." Awesome. God is so good. Thank you for sharing what the Holy Spirit shared with you. Makes me think about "So Jesus also suffered outside the gate in order to sanctify the people through his own blood. Therefore let us go to him outside the camp and bear the reproach he endured. For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come."
Kb had to pick up his pen and start taking note!!!! I feel ya bro. These three bros blessed me.
I saw that too!!! The amount of respect in that alone. Being in the company of people that you can always learn from to the point of taking notes is why you will always see growth from them.
yh, I noticed that too. So encouraging to see.
@@terrishabuckley7753 so true!
@@benjaminlamptey1867I definitely agree
No SUGAR in grits! Love you guys.
This was good. 👏🏽
“The thing about not having power, is that you can just do what you wanna do”
Powerful stuff from beginning to end
KB I got my notes open to homie was in his bag🔥🙏🏽
This white man appreciates the thoughtful, informative conversation. 👏👏👏💯
I love you guys and your podcast! This was an amazing show. Thank you for introducing me to Esau McCaulley.
Ohhhhhhh that's KB!!! 😍 I gotta subscribe now and binge listen. I love Dr. E and literally just received his book, heard him on Phil Vischer's podcast and has his book in my Amazon cart for far too long. But anyways, I look forward to catching up! I'm excited. ❤
The conversation around 25:00... I am not the "Safe Man"... Using Christian Hip Hop to rebel... Man this explains my experience at Liberty University 😅
Amen, and amen. Flip them tables, and get out.
Wow, I've never thought of so many of the issues Esau is bringing up here. Y'all get me thinkin bout sth new every week. Praise God for this.
Thanks for the love, Benjamin!
Sooo dope!!
Sugar In Grits Is The Way To Go...I Wouldn't Have It No Other Way.
The early bird gets the worm, but the early worm gets eaten.
"You need to get out." Amen, Esau! And it's not just black folks that need to get out. "It's not good for your soul to be stepped on". Amen, Esau! Also, it's not good for your soul if you're stepping on people. And it's not good for your soul if you're watching quietly while others are being stepped on. Jesus' people who are still inside the camp gotta follow His footsteps and make their way outside the camp. Brothers and sisters are waiting there. The unity of God's people in the U.S. won't be found under the banner of cultural privledge. It can't be. It's in HIm, and he's ouside the camp.
"Grits becomes grits AFTER the butter and the salt are added" 🤣🤣🤣
I loved this convo!
Thank you guys for this podcast. This brought alot of clarity to areas within orthodox black christianity, issues pertaining to ministry and theology and how it deviates based on social location, and understanding how black suffering and the dismissal of black cultural social injustice leads to Africans Americans either not seeing Christ and the Bible as being for them, or seeing Jesus as only a white man's religion. It was wonderfully tied in from beginning to end. Y'all had me weak at 1:21:04 though. Not the Red Pill brothers. 😂Y'all play too much. Also at 1:21:35 -1:21:40 when Mr. McCaulley spoke on how the bag changes when you deviate from the two extremes. This brings a form of humility in a way and grant's you a better understanding of the Widow with the two mites (Luke 21:1-4) in the bible even though you didn't want to be in that situation👏🏿👏🏿. Do you mind clarifying what Mr. McCaulley meant about the black person who is skeptical of white christianity for a white skeptical audience? That statement kinda flew over my head a little. But as always great podcast. So glad I found you guys accidentally.
1:30:00 Talk to’em Dr. McCaulley!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂
@30:15 FACTS!!!!!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
This was incredible . So good
Stop, Doc! Love the book! Leave my grits alone...
My question to Esau would be why would there ever be a politician to respect the traditional black church and be sensitive to the needs of black people when there never has been one, and the country still thrives?
First of all, America isn’t thriving.
Dr. McCaulley identifies "The 1619 Project" when he talks about starting "American" History with the arrival of slave ships & viewing it from the perspective of the enslaved people on those ships.
Ayo KB as for me and my house, we think they funny TOO
The abuses and heresies of the crusades probably made it difficult for Muslims in the 1100’s to believe that Christianity was for them as well. Yet God is still saving a people from every time and tongue and ethnicity, despite the sins committed in Jesus’ name.
This white man is with you guys. Esau, folks that are saying what he's saying, Southside Rabbi, has (have) the word of God for the church in the U.S.
Where did y'all get your mic stands from? I need a desktop one for the Shure mic I'm trying to get.
Hey, Saiko! Sweetwater.com. Search Desktop Mic Stands. Thanks for tuning in!
@@SouthsideRabbi I found one. Thanks.
I've listened to all of the podcast put up by Southside Rabbi. I enjoy them greatly! This one I had a hard time with. It's an obvious statement that the church has had racism in it. Racism is wrong. We all agree and there is no excuse for it.
My quarry is this: Everyone in this podcast acknowledge racism in todays evangelical church. BUT they didn't mention any names or churches were these racist acts occurred. It's the same thing that Beth Moore is guilty of. Claim "racism must stop in our churchs", but never call anyone out. This is not an issue of gossip or stirring a pot. Racism is a huge deal. If someone or some church body is in sin with racism it needs to be brought to the spotlight. These racist need to be marked and expelled from the church culture. Just claiming racism and never going beyond the claim just lets the problem continue.
In this podcast general comments were made alluding to racist situations. If that's the case please call them out so we can stand behind you in solidarity. Ya'll just said in the podcast that fame and money aren't as important as the gospel message. Don't let the fear of backlash or hurt feelings silent the truth.
I'm going to harsh but fair with this next comment. In this podcast it was stated that there is pressure to talk bad on others because there is a lot money to be made by doing it. Specifically when black people are attack other black people, and you guys said you weren't going to do that on here. Then the same video you didn't have problem naming Thomas Sowell in a negative light.
The last two episodes got me feeling that critical race theory is creeping into, being accepted, into the conversation. That's going to do nothing but divide people.
I don't want this to come off as an attack, because it's not. It's a concern that i'd like to bring up. I appreciate you brothers for this podcast and how great of a tool you have made this to preach Christ Crucified. God Bless, Soli Deo Gloria.
PS ya'll going back and forth about the grits about made me almost wreck my car I was laughing so hard!
Wow
Can we get Thomas Sowell on this show?? For a healthy black discussion
What's the imagery mean in the very beginning? A skull, lion heads, candles, some other animal that looks like an owl or bat.
I like how they're world champions of a one country sport XD
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Sugar does not go on grits........ yes you are right Cream of wheat is for sugar....
what's a good start to follow good theology and Christ ?
Wow...such a good podcast..powerful brother! Im a big chh fan..yes crae was the first artist i listened too...dont waste your life...send me....influenced me and even discipled me in a way just like u did KB.. 100 album and weight and glory...love brothers...i want this book..and then share it with others! Grace and peace!
What was yours and KBs response to your aunt in regards to her saying Christianity was the white mans religion?
Love the content and agree with so many points. I would like to know if you guys could reach out to Voddie B. for a good conversation about the same topic?
That's a good idea. I think Voddie would have a different outlook on some of the points made by Esau. I'm confident Voddie wouldn't agree with the term or the idea of "black hermeneutics".
An interesting thought, if the privilege or power of white slaveowners caused them to twist the word incorrectly with regards to slavery (their social location), what blindspots or misinterpretations of the Word do oppressed people tend to have? Do they bristle at the idea of authority or hierarchy to the point where they don’t believe in God’s ordained systems of authority in the family or church or government ?
It could be two-fold. It could also be the fact that people in authority including black people that gain some authority and affluence equate God giving them that authority to God being okay with said leader’s bad decisions. We easily talk about how David honored Saul because God anointed him, which is true. AT THE SAME TIME, God also was punishing and rejecting Saul for not obeying and all of his other sins. Saul has over 40 years of torment because God was not pleased with how he ruled.
In other words, half truths are the reason why black people are not comfortable with authority.
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding." Proverbs 3:5
Let's trust in the all-knowing and all-powerful God. God loves you so much and showed that through Jesus! Romans 5:8
Hopefully this inspired and encouraged you today. God bless.
Yooooo! I’m making these comments as I listen but I’m so befuddled 🤣 In reference to Black hermeneutics, This guy speaks as if Christianity began during slavery times LOL as if thousands of years of oppression within every single race and culture did not exist 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe it is equivale to how Matthew was speaking to the Jewish audience to get them to understand who Christ was. You have to know your audience.
1:25:00 You made a distinction between white and black churches on white supremacy but threw all white churches together. There have always been white christians in America and Europe who opposed slavery and white supremacy ideology. If you're going to make the distinction that black churches didn't be consistent and don't group all white churches together. Because there is a huge difference.
Anyone think the guest looks very similar to Wordsplayed? 😅
Sugar DON'T go on grits!
Next subject: Why christians fears knowledge?
Okay, okay, yeah
South Side, South Side, South Side, yeah
That's where I spend downtime, uh, yeah
Ameen and I the Rabbi
Check the podcast for the smoke, yeah
I don't wanna fight with trolls, yeah
I just wanna fight with souls
I just wanna be light
You just wanna be right
K.B
Lincoln on ma brain
@@benjaminlamptey1867 👊
Bag #2: The black person skeptical of Christianity for the benefit of a white skeptical audience...
It is not good for your soul to be stepped on forever...
So the future of ministering to black folks is to address racism, huh? Not the problem of being born in sin, no no no no. My goodness I thought it was the demonstration of the love and power of Jesus Christ that brought folks to repentance 🤣🤣🤣 like healing diseases and setting folks free from bondages like drugs and alcohol-you know, things JESUS DID-that was effective. Nope, it’s winning the arguments against racism. Yep 👍🏾
You’re not even describing grits!!
I think the reason why I have such an issue with the topic of race and injustice is that they, along with other issues, are temporal in comparison to eternity. Now I am not say that these issues do not matter, because they do and I believe God cares as well; yet are we putting so much emphasis on the issues that it makes seeking the Kingdom above all else secondary?
How can people enter the kingdom of Heaven if racism is woven into the very fabric of Christianity in America?
@@brittaniebetch wow, that's a strong point madam. I never thought of it that way.
Stumbling blocks for the Gospel must be removed so the sheep can come home. We don't want 'sinking milestones tied to our necks'.
After listening to three guys smell their own farts for over a hour the scripture that comes to mind is: “But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
II Corinthians 11:3 NKJV
Esau, of course you know all the Christian rhetoric but as I’ve said below while tracking your statements it appears you really don’t believe them cause you and these other two dudes want to make Christ equal politics and sociopolitical justice. That wasn’t Jesus mission then, nor the Church’s and it isn’t today. Jesus did not come to make bad men, racist men, etc, good, Jesus came to bring dead people back to life. Although Satan hates every form of goodness I’m sure he’ll settle for everyone singing kumbaya if it meant they didn’t accept Christ as their redemption.
I hate to break it to you guys but racism WILL NEVER EVER END. Why? Because Satan is the author of it and until Jesus puts an end to his kingdom racism (and every other form of evil wickedness will continue to thrive). We’re here to be light and fruit and even then we can do NOTHING apart from Christ-NOTHING REALLY MEANS NOTHING.
You can’t say be not of the world and then use the Church to engage in the most worldliest of things: politics! Politics, a system rooted deeply in the occult. Be a good citizen a vote however you please but politics and Christ will never work because its of two different kingdoms.
Esau you mentioned briefly when you wrote around Pauline topics (THE BIBLE) it was boring but slavery is a hotter topic. Check your heart dude. I don’t know if you’re really a Christian or not but your allegiance and priorities is out of order.
I hope all you guys reexamine your hearts.
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Black Church ... White Church 🤣🤣🤣 Could’ve sworn it’s Christ’s Church, but okay 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
SUGAR 👌
But you better learn how to start making moves...
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