Intel Says Not to Say "LGA1851" or "Z890" | MSI vs. ASUS Features & X870E Boards
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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MSI is showing off Z890 & X870E motherboards at #Computex 2024 -- and Intel is a control freak, trying to prevent anyone from knowing that its next socket is "LGA18XX" (it's 1851) - but even 18XX has been known for literal years now, and yet Intel thinks it can put that genie back in the bottle. Bizarre Intel control behaviors aside, MSI has new motherboards competing with ASUS on ease-of-installation features, a new case with some unique fans, and an AIO with offset mounting for Intel's upcoming Arrow Lake CPUs.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Stupid Intel Games, Stupid Intel Prizes
01:56 - New Z890 & X870 Motherboards
05:28 - PCIe Quick Release & ASUS' Patent
08:35 - CAMM RAM
11:58 - Cooler with Hotspot Movement
13:34 - Velox 300R Airflow Case
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I just watched the intro and man, you need to be the host of comedy central's roasts!
@@michaelgriffin3230 This information is already public and has been since 2022.
@@michaelgriffin3230 Did you watch the video? At all?
Are those CAMM modules dual channel?
@@stanisawszczypua9076if a thing is dual channel or not is not determined by the memory module but by the controller inside the cpu. If the cpu can do dual channel, so can the ram
Imagine if Intel put half as much effort into making their partners follow a power delivery spec as they put into making them not say the clearly labelled thing
Yeah that was my thought when Steve said "intel's controlling nature has new highs"
Rumors around Hillsboro are that they're tightening the leash a bit more for this socket. ARL should need less power than RPL/ADL given the massive node jump as well. I remember seeing some leaks of 177W and 212W ratings instead of 253W, but I have no idea if those are final.
Intel has its priorities completely wrong, but we have AMD luckily.
Soon as Intel says u cant say shit its time to abandoned ship
Intel baseline profiles have been around for YEARS. Back in the day Intel made their own board that were baseline ONLY, and nobody bought them. If you only want baseline in today's world go buy supermicro boards, nobody makes a more stable board. when Intel first allowed overclocking most boards HAD baseline default to AUTO and everything was fine, but competition got out of control and finally hit the wall.
Asus: We're becoming unlikeable
Intel: Hold my socket
meh. nothing end users have to worry about. we can call it 1800 and Z890 all we want if that's what they are.
Asus was on top too long. Got complacent. Same thing happened to Intel.
I know you're just trying to be funny but ASUS is being straight up anti-consumer whereas this is just stupid marketing lol. Nobody outside of reviewers cares whether or not they can call the socket 18xx or 1851.
@@zojirushi-rice-cooker bro how do I break it to you but Intel has a longer history of being anti consumer than ASUS.
I like Intel and Asus.
"You can _literally_ *see it!"* -- Intel
"You just cannot _say it."_ -- Also intel, probably.
Sounds a lot like our government. You can see the insanity going on but you better not say anything about it.
Schrödingers socket
"For your eyes only" means "see, don't say"
What the eyes don't see, the heart doesn't feel
"The rules are stupid and I rejected them."
Gonna need a shirt on your merch store with that on it.
Would buy. xD
True
Reminds me of the i reject your reality and substitute my own.
That would be such an amazing slogan on all kinds of merch, it'd be a must-buy even for me.
@@IngwiePhoenix me too
0:43 Back to you Steve "The rules are stupid and I rejected them!" Thanks Steve /Intel
Put this on the next GN t-shirt!
That is a shirt I would definitely buy.
Sign me in
The data is not accurate, but it is correct! Back to you Steve!
Hilarious
Intel's new socket is made by Medusa and they are doing you a favor by not letting you look at it.
🗿
@@POVwithRC Finally, an appropriate use case for this emoji, as the ancient scrolls foretold.
hahahaha
heh, I had that very same thought!
@@POVwithRC Perfection
Man, I didn't even know these quick-release PCIe buttons existed...and now I really want one.
Gone would be the days of using a plastic ball pen in an attempt to press the 2mm of latch poking out behind the backplate in the 1km deep and 3mm wide pitch black canyon between the CPU cooler and GPU.
this came at the right time actually, I had a pain trying to remove my 6750xt from an Asus Rog B550 the other day, had to use a long precision screw driver, made a little dent. But damn it was tough.
Do you remove your GPU on a weekly basis?
@@dereklang4451😂😂😂😂😂
I've just ripped out the retainer clip completely before inserting the gfxcard in the slot because there was literally no way to ever get to it again with the card in place.
@@JohnDavidSullivan Try having an Asrock Blazing Gen5 M.2 Fan-Heatsink on the Motherboard. Then the latch becomes inaccessible short of using a long, thin plastic ruler.
Are you stopping by the ASUS booth? That should be interesting.
Yeah, Too bad Steve's ROG Ally didn't fit in his bag to confront A SUS with it at Head Office regarding the Warranty SCAM
Yes
I wonder if Gamer Nexus will confront Asus when he stops by the booth.
@@AnonymousUser-ww6nswhat do you expect is going to happen? They have their entire legal, warranty, and PR team at the booth just waiting for Steve to show up?
Their rep will probably just decline to comment.
@16 most likely but I don’t care because Steve already exposed ASUS.
If it were I would secretly send ASUS the stink eye.
Absolutely murking the PR machine lol. Become ungovernable 😁
Absolutely giving Intel what they wanted by falling for the oldest trick in the book.
@@meepk633Where can I find this book?
@@meepk633They're going to get coverage regardless and the name was already leaked a bunch of times. I don't see how this is a deliberate stunt from them? What does it achieve by "tricking" people into saying the name rather than just telling them to say it?
@@Daltonisntabot id love to have a bbook of all the oldest tricks myself :)
Companies tend to push consumers around these days so channels like this are invaluable. Keep on trucking
I wonder if the spam bots are gonna get mad about Steve saying bad intel words
That's the next evolution!
Give it time.
Its the Hasbara bots you have to worry about tbh
It is the AMD "bots" that are the loudest, has always been so.
Found them, hey @@Pillokun given how many comments you have posted to the channel loving Intel and hating on GN and Hardware Unboxed, why are you still here?
They can afford the R&D, Design, Manufacturing and Assembly of a totally custom PCIe quick release latch but still skimping on a $0.06 Segment display?!
Oddly despite ASUS developed it, seemed to be on few boards.
You do realize that the display needs to be wired in, don't you?
Yeah it takes a cad engineer 3 minutes to do that. The schematic for this is hilariously simple so idk what's your point. @@1pcfred
every day I'm glad my MSI board has at least the LEDs
@@GewelReal I miss EVGA with the dual removable BIOS chips but yeah we need more than beep boops! (and they dont even ship the speaker)
This makes me appreciate AMD naming the sockets AM3, AM4, and AM5. I looked up an Intel socket and it was LGA1wxyz. LGA1150, LGA1151, LGA 1050, LGA 1155. The newer numbers are easier though. At least AMD won't be "GASP! HOW DID YOU GUESS THE NEXT SOCKET IS AM6?"
LGA 1151 is named like that because the socket has 1151 pins contacting the CPU. Same applies to all Intel sockets: socket number = number of pins.
Knowing them they might rename it to AI6
Intel's naming makes sense, but as a technical detail not a revision number.
"Land Grid Array " -> "LGA 1wxyz"
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa Yeah, though it was an interesting era of so many 1s and 5s.
All of Intel's sockets have formal "names," H1/2/3/4/5 for 1156 through 1200, V/V1 for 1700/1851, R# for 2011/2066, and other letters for other socket families
Intel: "our socket doesnt have a name"
Steve: *i reject your reality and substitute my own*
More like "I reject your reality and substitute reality"
@@travelsizedlions so basically what I said
THE MORE YOU STEVE, THE MORE YOU THANKS.
Thanks Steve! Live long, and buy more.
😂
🥰
the more steve the more thanks
😂😂😂😂 gesus i burst out laughing
@@dkman123 Shaka when your LGA-(CENSORED)
"But the rules are stupid and I rejected them."
I salute you, Steve.
How much you wanna bet it looks exactly like the 2011 socket tabs, just vertical instead of horizontal.
the camm2 modules would probably also eliminate cooler clearances being an issue. really cool!
This was my first thought. Kinda not mad.
Yeah, camm should definitely at least replace so-dimm in the market.
should also make it easier to water cool the ram. Plus if one ram stick dies the other one becomes useless anyway. Also the quad socket on dual channel systems was bad anyway because of timing and topology issues. It solves many problems. I found DDR5 to be the uglies feature of a mobo as well. now we can cover and RGB it and water cool it as well. I just wish mobos would use 12VO and get rid of the onboard sata in favour of m.2 (you can buy a sata m.2 if you need sata).
Are they the same price?
@@ChrisWijtmanspeople want sata because of how many ports you get with it (which allows for more storage). The argument for getting a sata m.2 doesn't make sense at all. 12VO also only just recently came out, don't expect it to come to every single motherboard when the ATX12VO standard is only 4 years old.
Also, not everyone who uses a computer is going to be gaming on it. The reason why there are 4 dimms is because of it's use case in much more memory intensive applications.
MOBO manufacturers want to cater to both personal and professional use cases. Don't expect everything in mobos to be usable by normal consumers.
Intel - a new socket every 2 CPUs.
that was normal. Just AMD actually started committing to their boards recently.
@@Elomentoplayz What do you mean recently? I thought they committed since AM4 in 2016?
@@anatropous5112 and i went ballz deep on ryzen in march 2017 and still have that same board to this day.
well we had socket 2011 a few years ago, we are not far away from using it again if Intel changes the socket again, congratz on those who still have their 6800k cpu
@@JS-oh2dpAM3 still lasted longer than a typical Intel socket IIRC and AM2 was fairly long lived too, even if they weren't AM4 levels of long lived
The GPU release buttons are pretty cool but my desk chopstick is cheaper and works beautifully 😂
..and you don't have to pay a licensing fee to use them 😋
Those release buttons could be difficult to get to, and the panel is so large you have to remove everything in front of it first
@@didamnesia3575 Springs will corrode and get stuck with time. Manual release with a chopstick/long poky thing will always be necessary.
@@thelegendaryklobb2879 In a place like Florida near a beach, yeah that can be a big issue for any bare non-stainless steel. In most places, at least in the USA, I don't see corrosion of the spring being an issue. Spring steel isn't very prone to deep corrosion in reasonable temperature and humidity levels, most hardened steels aren't. Even then, it can be galvanized and/or greased to pretty much eliminate that issue.
I'm sure there's an embargo on the socket and chipset models, but you still have to ask "why?" unless they actually ARE changing from the numbering they've followed for several years now. If not, then it just seems like a pointless thing to place an embargo on. It's just weird corporate bullshit where some marketing exec doesn't want anyone to step on his toes for his "big announcement" he's been working on all year.
The most normal naming scheme intel has had recently is naming their GPUs after Airplanes.
Are the GPU’s as reliable as Boeing airplanes?
Asking for a friend…
intel arc a580 ORC
Should be OK if they don't call their new product the "737 Max".
@@SenileOtaku The problem is Boeing's controls and corner cutting. They just happen to be making a bunch of 737 Max planes, so that's where we're seeing it.
Not sure if you remember when those crashes were happening from an undocumented software "feature." It was also around the same time they lost a space capsule because a software bug.
@@SenileOtakujust waiting for the Intel Arc M370
4:00 - and the CAMM memory module
Congratulations. You just got me to sit straight up in my chair!
OR "CAMMMM" for short.
Only using 1 module should be nice. DDR always needed 2 sticks to run in dual channel. I've still got old pairs of ddr2, ddr3 and ddr4.
I'd be curious what it does to mini-itx boards. I know LPDDRx has been an option on those for ages, but I'm excited to see what low profile coolers could be made for that market without the need to clear as tall a ram module.
Why did it take 20 years to get a better latch mechanism for PCI? Seriously....
Patents
I'd say they should've started on the tech like 10 years ago or earlier, when we started seeing gpu's with 3 fans.
@@eric.is.online- A patent for one design doesn't mean you can't create an alternative design that's sufficiently different but functions just as well.
Not like they said the next lake series anyways yesterday LIVE or anything...
I see another advantage to CAMM: no more issues with coolers. They could go lower than they're right now and maintaining the same tower height as they could cut the height they add for clearing RAM.
*Precisely the best use-case argument for design implementation. Wet plates and pumps are added expense and failure points, not always the best answer.*
I know it was just a small comment, but as an engineer who is also camera shy, I aprciate Steve letting the guy give him the skinny and then relaying it.
Was it really "giving him the skinny" if he has to mention it in the video 🤔
LOL, Steve.
This is about as Gamers Nexus as you can get at the intro
I am surprised they didn't ban you permanently from all pressers
Sure. But would it help, or would it just remove whatever bit of leash they have?
Yeah, turning Steve into a persona non grata isn't gonna work out that well.
@@BigTylt for them. It would be fun to watch.
I will side with Gamer Nexus no matter what. If Intel bans him, I will no longer consider Intel.
The quickrelease on the PCIEx16 sloat and M.2 thing looks cool, I like it.
Loved the news splash pop-ups covering your face as you emphasize how we will never possibly know the names of the next generation of products. Kudos to your editor! Though, it would be funny if Intel pulled a last second gotcha marketing trick like a Windows 9 disappearing act.
Steve, you've got one of the best sarcastic deliveries I've ever heard - delivery and timing...
"Patent protected ease of installation features, that's the state of the motherboard industry." - GN
I hate it here.
The other manufacturers should have patented it first then......they had decades to do it for a "simple" idea right?
@@kicapanmanis1060 How about fuck the patents instead?
The fact that anything, anything at all on the inside of a PC case being redesigned for convenience is news is telling.
@@fus132 Motherboard OEMs can license the patents for a small nominal sum or for free. You should look up F.R.A.N.D licensing (stands for Fair, Reasonable And Non-discriminatory) where patents are licensed by consortium or standardisation board.
@@fus132 it's not the patent that's the problem though. These companies could have simply paid to use the design or come up with one of their own. That's just greed.
New socket looks very securly protected with that plexi. One of the screws got missing in between shots. BTW Steve, which pocket scerwdriver world you recommend buying? 😅
😂
I'm no engineer but those new mechanisms look like they will break if used excessively.
Tbh by the time you 'excessively use" the pcie release you should be worrying about your pcie slot and hardware which also isn't rated for excessive removals and insertions.
I assume many users will install their GPU and leave it until they want to do a full clean of their system. These boards are new and will last several CPU generations, and GPU generations are typically every 2 years now. They'll be okay and shouldn't fail after 10-20 uses.
They're meant to.
@@chatboss000 That's so bullshit I question your humanity lol. If that were the case reviewers would have to constantly buy new hardware because they insert/remove hardware from pcie slots all the time.
You bring up a good point about reviewers but let's be honest, the average home user is not a reviewer. The only times I have removed my GPU in the last 4 years is twice and once was when I was upgrading the motherboard.
The CAMM2 modules look really interesting. Could be an interesting thing in the future.
These intros are great! At this point I almost wonder if Steve is asking someone to make another, more updated "Gamers Nexus out of context" video.
The rules are stupid! Definitely a mystery!
0:50 never gets old “BUT WAIT…THERE’S MORE” 🤪
I didn't think we'd see CAMM in desktop so soon. I really thought it would only come to laptops in the foreseeable future.
That fan looks like something Major Hardware tested on his user made fan videos.
it would be hilarious if someone can make 18xx cpus work in LGA1700 boards.
This will soon happen. There is a big russian Community that flashes mainboards to use Xeons and X Chipset CPUs on normal B65 or H61 Boards
Lga 1700 has 1700 pins contacting CPU (doh). LGA 18xx will have 1800+ pins passing power and information between CPU and motherboard. So no, it will not happen.
There was a moment between 7th and 8th gen when both gens used LGA 1151 and the modders could hack BIOSes and cover some contact points in CPUs to make old boards accept newer gen CPUs. That was Intel's missed moment to extend support of that socket for consumers.
I guess the modders could physically remove the 1700 chipset and add 1851 chipset like a surgery.
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa Oh but Intel never intended to extend socket support for consumers... That's their entire point!
@@Bourinos02 none claimed that they intended and your "entire point" is very different from the OP post.
"I'll sleep when I'm dead" - Steve probably
Honestly, that PCI quick release would have been useful a few months back trying to get a GPU out with a CPU cooler partly blocking access.
Very useful added value.
unless they bring back the "memory push down" modules that were the rage back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Where you used to push the memory into slots for video cards and stuff.
Can you imagine doing these on the CAMs modules themselves?
Individual ICs for memory upgrades were pretty neat but look up SIPP RAM if you want the real wait-what blast from the past. In some alternate dimension it became a hit, I'm sure.
Intel must be really loved by motherboard producers.
They definitely seem to be frustrated.
i want 12VO motherboards.
@@ChrisWijtmans why?
@@gregandark8571 power savings and smaller connector. Plus the ability to turn off mobo features you a re not using, like a sata controller.
What did the janitor say when he hopped out of the closet? Supplies!!
This just doesn't work well here as it did in UHF.
It’s great to see PC venders addressing ease of installation. However, one thing they need to address is those tiny case front io pin connectors. If they turn all those pin connectors into a single plug that would be great.
It's a standard (I think it's part of ATX design), it must be agreed a new one.
There's a single plug. It plugs on top of individual pins. You plug all single pins outside the mobo in your hands and then put that middle plug as one onto your motherboard. It comes with motherboards, unless you found the cheapest one you could get the hands on.
Only way I see those headers going, is if they started using IC logic to cut the total pin count down. Only problem is that completely removes the ability for you to use a screwdriver to turn on the motherboard, and could make motherboard vendors to start supplying PCBs adapting the normal headers to the new standard to cover people upgrading and using their old case. I also can't see 3rd parties proposing such a change and having it be adopted, as I believe that only Intel really has the power to make such a thing happen.
Thank you Crew and Steve, this is awesome 👍🏻🔥
Whoa Black Betty, CAMM is RAM?
Many laptops had soldered on RAM, and CAMM was designed as a newer form-factor so laptops didn't need to have RAM soldered on.
Being a newer form factor, CAMM actually ends up having higher performance than conventional DIMMs.
So CAMM is possibly a future successor to DIMMs. It's flat so it works in thin and light laptops.
@@aminy23would make for an awesome compact build too!
would be incredible on an itx build because it would give much more real estate to CPU fin stacks or water-cooling features like a pump
@@kindadimThis 100%
I just want to say that this was an excellent joke
The tomahawk at 11:45 caught my eye with the 8 pin power connector at the bottom of the board. My evga z170 had something similar for extra power to the pcie slots for sli. And being sli is dead I wonder what its for. And they are adding 3 x16 pcie slots again. My z790 tomahawk only has 2.
13:55 I have a Xiaomi desk fan that has a rotor design like that, two very different patterns rather than just the usual large fan blades. It's very quiet and moves a F-ton of air.
When the screenshots finally covered steve's face, I had to giggle, and then when they kept going and blotted out the almost entire screen, it was a full on laugh out loud moment
Msi quick release on m2 cover and gpu is nice. These things are nice to have
I would love if Intel didn't sell me a defective I9 13900k on release day for a new build then spend a year off and on troubleshooting while using a PC that borderline didn't work until I spent money to have Micro Center diagnose a bad CPU then spend A MONTH AND A HALF to get it warrantied and a new one sent to me.
Lemon parts happen, and that sounds more like a combination of you leaving it late and Micro Center sleeping on it than anything Intel did.
You bought it from Intel it microcenter lmao
If you had microcenter warranty they would of just instantly replaced after finding it defective. I always get it cause of that. I had 3 issues in the past all was under their warranty I walked out the same day with a replacement.
@@marioStortuga F to doubt you had 3 defective cpus
If you had to have Micro Center Diagnose your bad CPU Its time to go pre-built lol SMH
Also on can I think it looks cool to have a plate covering it makes it very neat
I just love how he calls out corporate bullshit.
1:02 yeah INTERNET
gotta love patents holding back industry innovation 20 years at a time for each new feature
i am a little sad that the project zero is still the only board with backfacing connectors. I was hoping manufacturers would expand on that, now that more cases support it.
After watching just the intro…. Steve, you already made my day.😂
"Aerocool" god! bringing back memories when budget cool/weird looking PC cases are from aerocool,
😁I have the Red/Gold (IronMan) XPREDATOR for my Bedroom Media Centre
@@shaneeslick i have the strike X an open case that looks like a spider or something hahaha, dust love that case...
@@xmeo30 🤔That's the Testbench type one isn't it? I wanted one of those but very expensive down here in Australia for what it was,
like the new laser cut Streacom alloy ones which are $230AUD, I made my Test bench out of an old DELL Case & Dremel 🖥🪓😁
@@shaneeslick yeah, i just thought it was a cool case at that time.. at that time AIO was like a new tech and cost a lot of $$$$, everything in my system is aircooled thats why i thought that case would cool all my components,
Not a fan of that quick release with springs. I'm not looking forward to when the dust or dirt makes the mechanisms fail and the cards are essentially stuck on the boards.
Can't you still press the tab manually just as we always have?
@@tsjeriAu there wasn't a "tab" if you looked closer
2:35 aw man I want that. Since I have a DH15 in my computer, I have to use a screwdriver to press on the veeeery small amount of the PCIe release that is visible to get my 4080FE out of the slot. Not that I need to take it out often, but it would still be nice to have for when I'd need it.
Intel never accepted they arent the top dog in cpu market anymore and still think they are able to say/do anything and its sad.
Steve roasting companies has got to be the highlight of CES 😄
Intel: Hi Steve! Please remember when you are covering our products; Freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
Pizza is a vegetable
@@TheJuggtron Pizza is just a meal where the plate is edible too
16:29, in the preview build they had the dram/CAMM RAM being hardline watter cooled, hmmm
That cam feature is very interesting
1:04 so what’s the name of the new chipset? Any ideas?
Intel AI Z890
LOL Steve, I stand up and applaud your blistering sarcasm.
Me too 😁👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
snap in m.2s are a very nice feature since m.2 standoffs arent standardized and often you only get 1 set with your motherboard. theyre surprisingly difficult to find online.
can we have a deep dive on the camm modules?
i'd like me some faster memory please
Oo I like thst m.2 design. I hope msi make that a kit we can buy to add to other stuff. Idk what a reasonable price would be
Agreed. M.2 screws are too easy to lose.
I hate them. I have huge hands/fingers and those small m.2 screws are the bane of my existence.
Asus: we are becoming unlikable lately , we wonder why is that?
My Aorus X670E Master has quick release for the main X16 socket plus quick release of MVNE m.2.
I appreciate everything you do. Im glad that you call these big companies out and address them. Its hard for us as consumers to shed light on problems we experience. We need more people like you and your team. Alot of these big companies think they can cheap their way out and sell defective product or product that makes us buy more.
CAMM2 in desktop? No, thanks.
I like CAMM, it would be interesting to see CPU|MB|CAMM on the other side of the motherboard, most cases I've dealt with for a long time now have very large opening for mounting a new cooler, but it would actually be kinda neat to just access the back and mount multiple CAMM modules that way, if you need to mount a new cooler bracket, well, you'd have to unscrew the CAMMs first potentially depending on the layout, but even with custom water cooling or AIOs I've not had to change the backplate in a long time, less so with the aircoolers. and if you are swapping memory you no longer have to remove the aircooler or tubing|pipes etc and for the ones who want to watercool memory for some reason, they will find a way. :P
Would be interesting to see backplates essentially act as a cooler mount, heatsink, and CAMM retention in one
Very cool stuff from MSI. Nice to see these innovations. The ASUS GPU quick release was a welcomed feature on the ROG boards.
Amazed of the QOL enhancements for the heatsinks and M2 slots.
And then they put new memory modules in with you need to secure with 4 screws ...
Asus still somehow surprises me about how low they can go..
Maaan, Steve and the team are on FIRE with these intros haha I'm loving it, keep 'em coming!!!
Steve, I know you don't usually do it but Can we get a little tutorial video about releasing GPU on normal mobas? My finger never reach it to the release button and I always brake it when I try to
use a tool. Pretty please.
The CAM memory module I find interesting as I plan my machine out for the next 5-6 years I dimension a bit bigger and I am getting more and more into small form factor cases.
My old devices become hand me downs family members or I sell them after cleaning them.
😂😂😂I love how he just smoothly threw in 'they got a case'then right on to the next thing fucking dying here😂😂😂😂😂
why there is 20 screws for CAMM on MB with quick release latches?
Guessing all those tiny pins needs better alignment and pushforce agains the socket then quick release can handle.
Hey Steve, doubt you'll ever see this, but as someone that is disabled with nerve damage in my hands, "small details" regarding ease of installation of components are actually HUGE to me.
I do like those motherboard features although once you install this stuff it's mostly in there for the next 10+ years. CAMM2 is pretty cool as well.
It is truly amazing, that you can still patent a button as if nobody has ever thought of one before 😂
@MajorHardware 13:40 Interesting fan. Season 7 should be air at a distance.
Didn't he actually feature a design just like this before?
It will be interesting to see how many activations, of the remote release, are required before something breaks or hangs. I see broken plastic or broken springs. It reminds me of a cheap retractable ball point pen. Wait for lint to build up in the spring in the slot release mechanism.
Time will tell.
11:05 looks like that "heatsink" is more for shielding than heasinking. I guess it may more than double the surface area.
The camm memory is definitely great, the replaceable connector/pins layer in the spec is a boon, as is the lower power consumption for laptops, as for desktop, given their flat form factor and low profile nature I wonder if a 2nd socket could be put in the same spot but at the rear of the board.
That could be an interesting idea, though it does fall into the same pitfalls as rear-mounted power connections and M.2s. We're going to want MB and case manufacturers to standardize locations for this stuff first to ensure compatibility and convenience.
More pins for CPU but still no PCIe lane increase? Can I get 30+ gen 5 lanes please?
Really need to do quad channel with the CAMM2 stuff, socket either side of the CPU. That would be interesting, i think.
I like these installation ideas with this button etc. It was always pain in the ass when you have f.e. missive cooler :). Also there is usualy problem with mounting new SSD in such situations.
All the MSI drama and look at them now, Steve is in their office again. I guess he was right, even if you release negative reviews they won’t resist the urge to gain coverage and will work with you again.
I honestly think MSI is decent and they improved. However Asrock still wins regarding RMA support and products. But honestly you can’t go wrong with MSI or Asrock
*This is as old as the PR trade: "I don't care what you say about me, just be sure to spell my name correctly."*
Intel having an identity crisis
great work 😉
I really like the new PCIE release switch thingies. I super hate accessing the old one under the GPU