Finally someone actually explains how to fix that common issue AND shows beginning to end on how to do it. Most other videos just explain it without actual props. Thank you good sir!
What I found to make my rings fold with the same shape around is to file the reed ridge that will be on the inside. Making it closer to the same thickness as the center of the coin. Doing this before any folding has started. Because it’s twice as thick as the center it makes it harder to fold.
Skylar, Einstein of coin ring making. You and a few others are the elite of coin ring making, you guys are teaching this old dog some great tricks, I'm Flintstones now but looking to get to Jetsons one day. Thanks for all your help.
Hi Skyler, Great tutorial on a situation I find myself in! Thank you mate! Very much appreciated! Keep up the excellent work buddy! BRILLIANT!! Very helpful to us noobies 👍🏼
You must get tired of telling people no, quenching it doesn’t harden it! I thought it would too the first time I saw you do it. Enjoy your videos. Hope to take a class some day. Travis
Skyler - that last tip with the cone... Amazing! I've only been doing the 1st 2 things you demonstrated. That cone trick is now my new favorite method and I haven't even done it yet! Excellent job bud. Hey, pm me from the CRC room with your address. I've got a bumper sticker for you! I rock it on my vehicles and thought you might like it too for the shop or car!
That was very cool. It appears there are a couple of methods available to correct issues. Seems like experience is the best teacher. Is that how you know how to correct something? Not just from understanding the end to end process, but being able to see where a mistake can happen and how to avoid it? Thanks for sharing!
A few of my very first attempts at coinring making turned out this way. I learned that the cause was that my 6 ton Harbor Freight press was not pushing straight down, has anybody had the same issue with the HF press?
I’m really struggling with wobbly and crooked coins at the moment! It’s like I end up with one side thicker than the other as soon as I do the initial fold. It’s like one side is squashed. If I can get that out then when I’m reducing later I seem to end up with an uneven press, one side is straight, the opposite has a tilt or the whole thing leans off centre. It’s really bugging me and I can’t work out what I’m doing wrong. I feel everything is lined up properly and I’m exerting equal pressure just one side is affected more - sorry for the rant just having a nightmare. Any ideas would be great! Thanks man, love the videos!
+Willanski It sounds like you might have an off centered hole, or your press isn't plumb. Either that or you are using that bad die plate that comes with the cheap ring stretchers. Any one if those issues could be causing your problem
Ok thanks. I recently bought some digital callipers and checked my hole punch. When measuring the hole to the edge of the punch I'm getting a variance of 0.1mm on one side. Would this be enough to throw it out? Thanks again Skyler
+Shekinah I like the crumple method for personal use but for business I must have the fold method. You don't want people thinking you are a wild animal!
Great video. Most my silver half kennedy come out with a wobble on the ridge side. Question: Can I use my 1 ton arbor press for your 3rd solution or is it not powerful enough? Thank you
Olá, eu estou fazendo anéis de moedas antigas, as minhas ficam um pouco tortas e não consigo polir por dentro dela, sou do Brasil, um abraço e obrigado, Fernando Pacheco
any suggestions for protecting inside of rings when your stretcher doesn't have a smooth mandrel , mine is stair stepped for the different sizes and seems to mark up the coin as you work it down even with the bag
what I've learned, is if the hole is not centered perfectly this happens also after you stretch it shrink the cut side just slightly to even the reeded side up and this evens out the top after that sand the cut side down on a flat surface that makes the cut side even. now you can work the ring alot easier. if that makes sense. I should make a video on this
Coin Rings from The Mint - Change You Can Wear yep that's exactly it lol, the darn centering cards and that's what I have and it happens every time but I've learned to make it work. I love the videos dude, keep em comming. thanks alot I've learned a lot from you bud.
this is a total life saver, specially because I'm stuck trying to fix a canadian 2 and this is a total eye opener. I do have a small question, and it doesn't really have to do directly with the video's topic... I just wanted to know how did you create the contrast on the ring on the termination photo. the last picture of the video, what did you do to those rings to have those distinct dark lines on the engravings' corners? thanks in advance ^_^
Thanks! The dark is done with liver of sulphur gel. And 0000 steel wool or a sanding block. Check out my newest Morgan dollar video or walking liberty video to see exactly how to get it.
The folding cone option looks awesome. I just purchased the 4 set plastic cones from Jason Works. Can I use these in place of the metal mandrel you used for straightening my rings? Thanks for these great videos.
how do you fix a coin ring that is wider on one side then the other. I think what I did wrong is that I did't punch the hole in the center, is there a way to fix the ring?
I keep running into this problem, every time i go to reduce the coin it turns out wobbly. Is it because im using the die that came with my ring stretcher? its one of the blue grayish ones im guessing its a chinese one.
100% yes. Every time someone says they get a wobbly ring when they reduce my first question is, are you using the die that came with the ring stretcher?
Question. After punching and forming my initial cone, then starting to stretch my 1964 quarter the width of the band varies. What can I do to fix/prevent this? Tia for any advise.
My reducing plate holes on my ring stretcher are all too small for the rings I make. What is the degree of the reducing dies? Can I use a 17 degree die? Thanks
I have a question, sometimes when making coin rings just say with the half dollars one will come out perfect and then the next one the reeded edge of the coin will have a big wave in it I have exhausted myself out of option on trying to figure out why this happens and tips I cannot figure out how to post a picture on here but, the ring looks good and probably not noticeable to your average person but it's the only thing I notice
+joshua hopson It can be a lot of things. Not annealing enough can be part of it.also a bad die can give inconsistent results. Also 40% silver halves always seem to do that regardless :)
I'm using a dapping block for reducing the ring and always get it tilted. As far as I can tell my presses are square. What am I missing? I could really need some help on what causes the tilt and how to prevent it so I don't need to fix it in the first place. Thanks
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint thanks for the offer but for me living in Germany calling is not an option as numbers outside Germany are really pricey. Maybe you can do a video about the most widespread mistakes in coin ring making.
@@Omikron99 Check out my video on fixing a wobbly ring. That will give you the main ways of fixing and possibly avoiding that issue. A dapping block will have more issues than a proper die for sure.
I was wondering how to you fix the 1-2 mm of space between the inside of the die and the outside of the washer? That causes the hole to not be dead center and then I get a wobbly coin : (
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint I did try that both on the inside and outside of the washer! And it still was off center! So, I decided to get Jason's auto punch! I'm so excited to get it! In the mean time, I got a new jewelry welder that is a lot of fun! (I returned the cheap coin punch).
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint lol, I've been making jewelry for many years (too many to say) I have a lot of tools! The welder is my newest and probably most expensive. However, I am really enjoying making coin rings! (it will be better with the auto punch) Always looking for something new to create! : )
fernando pacheco chama se maquina de alargar alianca vc as acha no mercado livre brasil ja para polir dentro da alianca tem varias tbm q vc acha no mercado livre ..basta procurar por maquina e de polir alianca ..ja a prensa tbm tem varios modelos basta buscar por prensa
Hello, I don't know if u do it or not but I bought a ring like this site unseen. And it turned out to look a lot like these two rings. Can I pay u to repair it, or do u even do that?
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint I didn't think it was a cheap ring (& didn't pay a cheap amount for it) cost me around what u charge for 1 I just didn't see it before buying just went by what I was told. But thanks for your help anyway.
Dont think annealing is the correct term for quenching metal to soften. Annealing is a slow process lower temp at timed intervals. Your actually just quenching the coins.
Finally someone actually explains how to fix that common issue AND shows beginning to end on how to do it. Most other videos just explain it without actual props. Thank you good sir!
What I found to make my rings fold with the same shape around is to file the reed ridge that will be on the inside. Making it closer to the same thickness as the center of the coin. Doing this before any folding has started.
Because it’s twice as thick as the center it makes it harder to fold.
Skylar, Einstein of coin ring making. You and a few others are the elite of coin ring making, you guys are teaching this old dog some great tricks, I'm Flintstones now but looking to get to Jetsons one day. Thanks for all your help.
Hi Skyler, Great tutorial on a situation I find myself in! Thank you mate! Very much appreciated! Keep up the excellent work buddy! BRILLIANT!! Very helpful to us noobies 👍🏼
This video was very informative. I am a new ring builder and I was panicking when one of mine went sideways but I was able to fix it about 90%
rbookstore I can I make the ring not fan out after I have beaten it
You can also use a steel sizing mandrel, plastic mallet, and doming block.
You must get tired of telling people no, quenching it doesn’t harden it! I thought it would too the first time I saw you do it.
Enjoy your videos. Hope to take a class some day.
Travis
Your videos are always helpful 😇
Skyler - that last tip with the cone... Amazing! I've only been doing the 1st 2 things you demonstrated. That cone trick is now my new favorite method and I haven't even done it yet! Excellent job bud. Hey, pm me from the CRC room with your address. I've got a bumper sticker for you! I rock it on my vehicles and thought you might like it too for the shop or car!
+Adam McSkinney Right on Adam thanks!
That was very cool. It appears there are a couple of methods available to correct issues. Seems like experience is the best teacher. Is that how you know how to correct something? Not just from understanding the end to end process, but being able to see where a mistake can happen and how to avoid it? Thanks for sharing!
+Joel Buchanan That is always the case for sure. All of this really comes from trial and error.
A few of my very first attempts at coinring making turned out this way. I learned that the cause was that my 6 ton Harbor Freight press was not pushing straight down, has anybody had the same issue with the HF press?
+John McDermott Yes that can be an issue if it isn't properly squared.
Excellent video, really helpful!
+Celtic Coin Craft Thanks!
glade to see you on the tube again
+Rick Bricker Me too! Making videos is a lot of work for me but I really enjoy it.
I’m really struggling with wobbly and crooked coins at the moment! It’s like I end up with one side thicker than the other as soon as I do the initial fold. It’s like one side is squashed. If I can get that out then when I’m reducing later I seem to end up with an uneven press, one side is straight, the opposite has a tilt or the whole thing leans off centre. It’s really bugging me and I can’t work out what I’m doing wrong. I feel everything is lined up properly and I’m exerting equal pressure just one side is affected more - sorry for the rant just having a nightmare. Any ideas would be great! Thanks man, love the videos!
+Willanski It sounds like you might have an off centered hole, or your press isn't plumb. Either that or you are using that bad die plate that comes with the cheap ring stretchers. Any one if those issues could be causing your problem
Ok thanks. I recently bought some digital callipers and checked my hole punch. When measuring the hole to the edge of the punch I'm getting a variance of 0.1mm on one side. Would this be enough to throw it out? Thanks again Skyler
@@willanski4321 no.
so you prefer the fold method and not the crumple method. why is that? will you have a mess on your hands?
+Shekinah I like the crumple method for personal use but for business I must have the fold method. You don't want people thinking you are a wild animal!
Great video. Most my silver half kennedy come out with a wobble on the ridge side. Question: Can I use my 1 ton arbor press for your 3rd solution or is it not powerful enough? Thank you
Yes that should work for you.
Olá, eu estou fazendo anéis de moedas antigas, as minhas ficam um pouco tortas e não consigo polir por dentro dela, sou do Brasil, um abraço e obrigado,
Fernando Pacheco
thanks
Sou Brasileiro moro Brasil
Tem como traduzir em português. Quais moedas são boas pra fazer esse trabalho
any suggestions for protecting inside of rings when your stretcher doesn't have a smooth mandrel , mine is stair stepped for the different sizes and seems to mark up the coin as you work it down even with the bag
Unfortunately good tools are the best solution there. A cheap Chinese or Indian made stretcher from Amazon would go a long way to solving that.
Very happy with this video good information thanks.
+Enrique Padilla Thanks!
what I've learned, is if the hole is not centered perfectly this happens also after you stretch it shrink the cut side just slightly to even the reeded side up and this evens out the top after that sand the cut side down on a flat surface that makes the cut side even. now you can work the ring alot easier. if that makes sense. I should make a video on this
+matman8736 That is very true. I didn't think to mention that because the availability of centering cards that people still get off centered holes.
Coin Rings from The Mint - Change You Can Wear yep that's exactly it lol, the darn centering cards and that's what I have and it happens every time but I've learned to make it work. I love the videos dude, keep em comming. thanks alot I've learned a lot from you bud.
Also if they are trying to flatten the opposing end too flat (by hand and hammer) it begins to wobble like that also.
this is a total life saver, specially because I'm stuck trying to fix a canadian 2 and this is a total eye opener. I do have a small question, and it doesn't really have to do directly with the video's topic... I just wanted to know how did you create the contrast on the ring on the termination photo. the last picture of the video, what did you do to those rings to have those distinct dark lines on the engravings' corners? thanks in advance ^_^
Thanks! The dark is done with liver of sulphur gel. And 0000 steel wool or a sanding block. Check out my newest Morgan dollar video or walking liberty video to see exactly how to get it.
awesome, thanks!
Nice job !!!
The folding cone option looks awesome. I just purchased the 4 set plastic cones from Jason Works. Can I use these in place of the metal mandrel you used for straightening my rings? Thanks for these great videos.
Yes those work as well. They can get damaged though so be careful.
Thanks for the quick reply! Blessings!
Phil 1: 21
very informative thanks
+Mark Cregger Thanks!
Awesome! I just ran into this problem for the first time. What causes this to begin with? New here.
All sorts of things :)
how do you fix a coin ring that is wider on one side then the other. I think what I did wrong is that I did't punch the hole in the center, is there a way to fix the ring?
I keep running into this problem, every time i go to reduce the coin it turns out wobbly. Is it because im using the die that came with my ring stretcher? its one of the blue grayish ones im guessing its a chinese one.
100% yes. Every time someone says they get a wobbly ring when they reduce my first question is, are you using the die that came with the ring stretcher?
Question. After punching and forming my initial cone, then starting to stretch my 1964 quarter the width of the band varies. What can I do to fix/prevent this? Tia for any advise.
Unfortunately it is because of thickness variations of the coin. Those ones just aren’t fun to make :)
I want a compleat set of straight wall dies for Silver Dollar, fifty cent, twenty five cent where cant I get them & what are they called?
My reducing plate holes on my ring stretcher are all too small for the rings I make. What is the degree of the reducing dies? Can I use a 17 degree die? Thanks
Yes they work perfectly.
I have a question, sometimes when making coin rings just say with the half dollars one will come out perfect and then the next one the reeded edge of the coin will have a big wave in it I have exhausted myself out of option on trying to figure out why this happens and tips I cannot figure out how to post a picture on here but, the ring looks good and probably not noticeable to your average person but it's the only thing I notice
+joshua hopson It can be a lot of things. Not annealing enough can be part of it.also a bad die can give inconsistent results. Also 40% silver halves always seem to do that regardless :)
When using the folding cone to try and straighten the ring dose it go reeded side up or down in the die. Thank you
+john pace Reeded side down over the outside of the die
Great tips!!
+Augusta Simmons Thanks!
impressive. looks like I need to make some additional dies :)
+Darrel Anderson lol right on :)
well done
Nebraskagoldhunter Thanks!
Very nice im going to subscribe bc this is awesome man
+Zane Vapes Right on!
How can I get one of those? Can I buy it online?
I'm using a dapping block for reducing the ring and always get it tilted. As far as I can tell my presses are square. What am I missing? I could really need some help on what causes the tilt and how to prevent it so I don't need to fix it in the first place. Thanks
Call me later and we tan take a few minutes to diagnose the issue. My number is on my website www.changeyoucanwear.net
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint thanks for the offer but for me living in Germany calling is not an option as numbers outside Germany are really pricey. Maybe you can do a video about the most widespread mistakes in coin ring making.
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint or is the chance to get a tilted ring mitigated when using Swedish wrap dies or Jason's reducing dies?
@@Omikron99 Check out my video on fixing a wobbly ring. That will give you the main ways of fixing and possibly avoiding that issue. A dapping block will have more issues than a proper die for sure.
When annealing regular coins do you still quench them in water ?
Yes I do.
I was wondering how to you fix the 1-2 mm of space between the inside of the die and the outside of the washer? That causes the hole to not be dead center and then I get a wobbly coin : (
You can put a paper towel in that space and it should keep it nice and centered.
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint I did try that both on the inside and outside of the washer! And it still was off center! So, I decided to get Jason's auto punch! I'm so excited to get it! In the mean time, I got a new jewelry welder that is a lot of fun! (I returned the cheap coin punch).
@@andreainks1430 You’re going all in!
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint lol, I've been making jewelry for many years (too many to say) I have a lot of tools! The welder is my newest and probably most expensive. However, I am really enjoying making coin rings! (it will be better with the auto punch) Always looking for something new to create!
: )
@@andreainks1430 I sort of figured when you mentioned the welder :)
Onde que posso comprar esta peças que você coloca pra empresar , obrigado
fernando pacheco chama se maquina de alargar alianca vc as acha no mercado livre brasil ja para polir dentro da alianca tem varias tbm q vc acha no mercado livre ..basta procurar por maquina e de polir alianca ..ja a prensa tbm tem varios modelos basta buscar por prensa
where can i get a die for my ring stretcher that will take a larger size ring
+tom ellsworth You can use Jason's dies under your stretcher. Jasonsworks.com
have you ever tried using a ceska republika 50 kc coin? because i cant get it to bend well at all .
+SuperKoi123 I might have but I can't remember doing one
might be because it has a steel core. en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3968.html
that would explain it . the one I had a go at didn't turn out well at all. any tips before I try again
Hello, I don't know if u do it or not but I bought a ring like this site unseen. And it turned out to look a lot like these two rings. Can I pay u to repair it, or do u even do that?
No sorry I dont fix other people's rings.
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint OK thank you anyway. Any idea of anyone that does by chance?
@@bubbsalicious2960 Most people won't want to fix someone's ring. If you buy a cheap ring, you get what you get.
@@CoinRingsfromTheMint I didn't think it was a cheap ring (& didn't pay a cheap amount for it) cost me around what u charge for 1 I just didn't see it before buying just went by what I was told. But thanks for your help anyway.
@@bubbsalicious2960 If it was a quality person, they will fix it for you at no charge.
cool )
Dont think annealing is the correct term for quenching metal to soften. Annealing is a slow process lower temp at timed intervals. Your actually just quenching the coins.
You're Wrong.
@@red7fifty i love these google educated professors