Such well made videos and explanations to go along with them. I have ordered several of the tools and they are all top notch, well made and machined. Great teacher, thanks for the classes on how to do this interesting hobby.
Your jewelry skill and dexterity is obvious, but i wanted to point out the quality in your video editing. Excellent lighting, focus, and a brisk pace of commentary that kept the information flowing efficiently. A+
Thanks for your help. after trying it a couple times then watching your vid again. i can understand more clearly what needs to be done to make the process run smoother. thanks again..
Hi Martin I received my Swedish wrap dies and cones awesome. Did a few trials, I noticed that you don't push the coin thru you only bottom out and changes to the next size, is that better than pushing right thru?
Hey Paul, my personal preference is to do just that: to basically bottom the coin out and immediately switch to the next (smaller) size Swedish Wrap die. That way, the coin stays CONE-SHAPED, which is key if you want to continue shrinking the coin through compression (Swede-wrap). If you fully push (extrude) the coin through the bottom of any particular SW die; the coin ring will be straight-walled, which is fine if you don't want to shrink the coin ring any further. Hope that makes sense!
Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it! I actually have switched to stainless steel cones (because all other material types eventually wear out and often get your coin stuck on the cone); and I have switched to brass pushrods because the polymer pushrods just don't hold up. You can find those and all of my other coin ring-making tools at: CoinRingUSA.com Hope that helps!
I was using a 1-ton arbor press but have since gone to a 2-ton arbor press. Yes, generally speaking if you want to end up with a thinner (narrower) band on your coin ring; you'll want to start off with a larger center-punched hole in your coin ring. Hope that helps!
So the Swedish coin rap makes a longer ring because of the process. So can it then be fat tired a bit and still be longer then the other method but still the more rounded look and feel? Or does that make it the same?
Martin, if the ring comes out of the final die at about 9 1/2 and is then straightened out to about a size 10, is that the largest size that can be made using the Swedish Wrap tools?
Hey John, I was using a piece of plastic taken from a plastic bottle. I now only use strips of the "BLUE Shop Towels".... does an amazing job at protecting the inner detail of the coin ring against the expanding splines of your ring sizer machine.
Hi Lori, this technique is called the "Swedish Wrap Method", and you can find the Swedish Wrap Die Set, (and the pushrods that go with it), as well as all of my other coin ring-making tools at: www.CoinRingUSA.com ;-)
Hey nice work! Just one question, is that a 4 spline mandrel or a 6 spline on the ring stretcher and would a 4 spline be good enough or should you buy a 6 spline if someone where to buy one?
i reallly want to get started with my own coin ring kit , one that i can get the swedish rap setup as well so any help would be greatly appreciated my man
When all was said and done with this size 10 you made here, what was the actual size of the cut side of the ring? 10.5 or so? Clearly it was larger then 10, right?
I "Swedish-Wrapped" it down to a size 9.5 and ended up removing a 1/2 size of inner material at the reeded sided, but yes; the thinner cut-side of the coin will always be larger, (due to it's being thinner), but since you measure the true ring size by the inner diameter of the (thicker) reeded-side of the coin; that's the side that matters most when it comes to sizing. Hope that helps!
Hey Cory, Not quite sure I'm understanding what you're asking... are you referring to what size coin can you Swedish Wrap and still get a larger size? Let me know. Also, my new Swedish Wrap Die Sete is now availablw at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Hopefully soon! Unfortunately for me my machinists are slammed and it's taking longer than expected, but you can always check back in or visit my Shop Page where they will be available at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Another great video, Martin. I noticed you took even more care and detail in describing the process (maybe because the method is a bit new to you, too?) along the way, which is always helpful and appreciated. Gotta admit, I'd never seen pink teflon tape....is it somehow tied in to breast cancer awareness?? I notice you achieved about 75% of the folding using just the ring sizer. I know that in the past, you seemed to think that you preferred to use a 6 ton press when dealing with Morgan sized stuff. Would you say that, with sufficient annealing, you could pull off the entire folding process with JUST the ring sizer, as long as it was done with a sizer as durable as the Durston? Failing that, would you say a 1 or 2 ton arbor press at most would be all one would need? Thanks, and keep up the great work.
Hey there, thanks for the compliments! Yes, I definitely recommend getting an arbor press, (and even getting a 2-ton arbor press if you can). The Harbor Freight 1 ton model arbor press falls short in my opinion on quality when it comes to the actual gearing on the unit holding up over time. And to fully extrude the larger coins out of the Swedish Wrap dies, it's best to use a 6-ton hydraulic press like the one offered at Harbor Freight. Hope that helps!
Not criticizing what you are doing, its great work and it takes patience to do. I just find it very difficult to destroy a Morgan dollar. I hope you do check the dates and are doing only high minted years? Or heavily worn coins. Great job. Thanks for sharing.
Hi there. Yes, when it comes to Morgans, I personally only make coin rings out of Morgan's that have no numismatic value to them. I look for Morgan's that aren't rare in mintage, that may have small dings on the reeded edges; and / or that have been improperly cleaned just to name a few things that I look for.
I HAVE ALL YOUR dies and cones , could you make a similar video showing step by step the sequence of dies and cones for the 50 cent and quarter, or at the very least publish this information on the web site
That's a tough question to answer accurately, as it really depends on the experience level of the person making the coin ring. The quality of tooling also makes a big difference.
When you say clean, do you mean after it's been made into a ring? If so, I use "0000" steel wool mainly, followed by an antique patina solution. Hope that helps!
I see that you are selling brass pushrods, but this video shows plastic. Why the change? Wouldn't the plastic ones have the advantage of not scoring the reeded side, ever?
I went with the brass push rods because they hold up much better under the pressures that are exerted when Swedish-Wrapping... the nylon just doesn't hold up; it deforms rather quickly. Hope that helps!
Such well made videos and explanations to go along with them. I have ordered several of the tools and they are all top notch, well made and machined. Great teacher, thanks for the classes on how to do this interesting hobby.
Your jewelry skill and dexterity is obvious, but i wanted to point out the quality in your video editing. Excellent lighting, focus, and a brisk pace of commentary that kept the information flowing efficiently. A+
Thanks so much for the compliments; I really appreciate it... I'm glad that you enjoyed the video and the content!
Thanks for your help. after trying it a couple times then watching your vid again. i can understand more clearly what needs to be done to make the process run smoother. thanks again..
You're welcome!
well done-easy to follow for a beginner. Thanks
how do you get the reeded edge to come in just a little more,so it looks more totally straight .Beautiful ring btw....thx
Awesome video, your explanation of the process is easy to understand I be interested when the dies go on sale
Thanks
Thank you! Actually, my new Swedish Wrap Die Set is now available at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Hi Martin great video, just placed my order in with etsy can't wait to try it out. Awesome work man.
Thanks Paul!
what kind of Teflon tape are you using and how many wraps are you doing and where do you buy the tape from?
What are the plates you are using on the press?
Thank you
Chip
Hi Martin I received my Swedish wrap dies and cones awesome. Did a few trials, I noticed that you don't push the coin thru you only bottom out and changes to the next size, is that better than pushing right thru?
Hey Paul, my personal preference is to do just that: to basically bottom the coin out and immediately switch to the next (smaller) size Swedish Wrap die. That way, the coin stays CONE-SHAPED, which is key if you want to continue shrinking the coin through compression (Swede-wrap). If you fully push (extrude) the coin through the bottom of any particular SW die; the coin ring will be straight-walled, which is fine if you don't want to shrink the coin ring any further. Hope that makes sense!
Love your video! where can I get push rods like yours?
Well made video. Good lighting and great explanations. Do you know where I can obtain the resin cones and polymer pushrods? Thank you.
Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it!
I actually have switched to stainless steel cones (because all other material types eventually wear out and often get your coin stuck on the cone); and I have switched to brass pushrods because the polymer pushrods just don't hold up.
You can find those and all of my other coin ring-making tools at: CoinRingUSA.com
Hope that helps!
GREAT VIDEO
Cool Video, and Nice Work 👍
just ordered my Swedish wrap dies from you.Waiting for the arrival
Thanks Jesse, you'll love them!
CoinRingUSA
Great work thanks for sharing.
You're welcome; small coin rings are a blast to make with this technique!
What size arbor press were you using in the video? If I want a narrower ring width would I simply use a larger center hole punch size?
I was using a 1-ton arbor press but have since gone to a 2-ton arbor press. Yes, generally speaking if you want to end up with a thinner (narrower) band on your coin ring; you'll want to start off with a larger center-punched hole in your coin ring. Hope that helps!
What swedish wrap are you using? 7 Degrees or 5 Degrees swedish wrap die?
So the Swedish coin rap makes a longer ring because of the process. So can it then be fat tired a bit and still be longer then the other method but still the more rounded look and feel? Or does that make it the same?
Yes, you can fat-tire the coin ring still
I SO WANNA TRY THIS!!!
Martin, if the ring comes out of the final die at about 9 1/2 and is then straightened out to about a size 10, is that the largest size that can be made using the Swedish Wrap tools?
Hey Gene, that depends on where you choose to stop extruding (pushing) your coin ring; let me know if that makes sense!
What did you have between the coin and the expandable ring sizer?
Hey John, I was using a piece of plastic taken from a plastic bottle. I now only use strips of the "BLUE Shop Towels".... does an amazing job at protecting the inner detail of the coin ring against the expanding splines of your ring sizer machine.
great video awesome tools can't wait to get my hands on a set
You'll love them!
Absolutely amazing!!!
What machine that you use in 10:58?
Another great vid. Thanks
Thx Michael!
great job......what is the hole size for this coin ring?
For this particular coin ring, I used a 3/8" center-punched hole... hope that helps!
I love this! What is this press called????
Hi Lori, this technique is called the "Swedish Wrap Method", and you can find the Swedish Wrap Die Set, (and the pushrods that go with it), as well as all of my other coin ring-making tools at: www.CoinRingUSA.com ;-)
AWESOME - thank you!
So you don't worry at all about that finale sizing as far as loosing detail? Nice job, BTW!
When are you going to have the Swedish dies set .
They will be back up for sale at my Shop Page at: CoinRingUSA.com this Thursday!
Hey nice work!
Just one question, is that a 4 spline mandrel or a 6 spline on the ring stretcher and would a 4 spline be good enough or should you buy a 6 spline if someone where to buy one?
hello there,i would like to find the tool to make the rings with it ,can you help me with that please thanks...
Buenas tardes que medida es el último reductor que usas para que quede el anillo definido
Really impressive mate keep up the great work! 😉
Thanks Will! How are you doing?
Excellent video...thanks.
Thanks; it's an awesome technique!
a work of art...
Thanks; they're so much fun to make with this new technique!
Great video Martin can't wait to have a go, when will the dies etc be on sale?
They're in production now and I will let you know as soon as they're ready!
Hey Trevski, my new "Swedish Wrap" Die Set is now available at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
i reallly want to get started with my own coin ring kit , one that i can get the swedish rap setup as well so any help would be greatly appreciated my man
When all was said and done with this size 10 you made here, what was the actual size of the cut side of the ring? 10.5 or so? Clearly it was larger then 10, right?
I "Swedish-Wrapped" it down to a size 9.5 and ended up removing a 1/2 size of inner material at the reeded sided, but yes; the thinner cut-side of the coin will always be larger, (due to it's being thinner), but since you measure the true ring size by the inner diameter of the (thicker) reeded-side of the coin; that's the side that matters most when it comes to sizing. Hope that helps!
What's the largest size your able to make with this method
Hey Cory, Not quite sure I'm understanding what you're asking... are you referring to what size coin can you Swedish Wrap and still get a larger size? Let me know. Also, my new Swedish Wrap Die Sete is now availablw at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
When will the swedish reduction dyes be up on the shop?
Hopefully soon! Unfortunately for me my machinists are slammed and it's taking longer than expected, but you can always check back in or visit my Shop Page where they will be available at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Hey Hudson, my new "Swedish Wrap" Die Set is now available at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
nice and perfect job ...
Thanks!
This is really cool!How Much is equipment and where can I buy it.
Thanks!!
Hey Scott, they will be available soon at my Shop's Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Hey Scott, my new Swedish Wrap Die Set is now available at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Nice work thanks
Thanks Dennis; it's an awesome technique!
Another great video, Martin. I noticed you took even more care and detail in describing the process (maybe because the method is a bit new to you, too?) along the way, which is always helpful and appreciated. Gotta admit, I'd never seen pink teflon tape....is it somehow tied in to breast cancer awareness?? I notice you achieved about 75% of the folding using just the ring sizer. I know that in the past, you seemed to think that you preferred to use a 6 ton press when dealing with Morgan sized stuff. Would you say that, with sufficient annealing, you could pull off the entire folding process with JUST the ring sizer, as long as it was done with a sizer as durable as the Durston? Failing that, would you say a 1 or 2 ton arbor press at most would be all one would need? Thanks, and keep up the great work.
Hey there, thanks for the compliments! Yes, I definitely recommend getting an arbor press, (and even getting a 2-ton arbor press if you can). The Harbor Freight 1 ton model arbor press falls short in my opinion on quality when it comes to the actual gearing on the unit holding up over time. And to fully extrude the larger coins out of the Swedish Wrap dies, it's best to use a 6-ton hydraulic press like the one offered at Harbor Freight. Hope that helps!
It does....thanks!
Any idea when these new Dies will be available in your shop?
Soon I hope... but not soon enough! ;-)
Not criticizing what you are doing, its great work and it takes patience to do. I just find it very difficult to destroy a Morgan dollar. I hope you do check the dates and are doing only high minted years? Or heavily worn coins. Great job. Thanks for sharing.
Hi there. Yes, when it comes to Morgans, I personally only make coin rings out of Morgan's that have no numismatic value to them. I look for Morgan's that aren't rare in mintage, that may have small dings on the reeded edges; and / or that have been improperly cleaned just to name a few things that I look for.
I HAVE ALL YOUR dies and cones , could you make a similar video showing step by step the sequence of dies and cones for the 50 cent and quarter, or at the very least publish this information on the web site
Thanks Helmut! I can put together something like that in regards to those 2 stabilizer dies, thank you for the tip!
This seems to take a long time. How is the total time invested different for the different methods?
That's a tough question to answer accurately, as it really depends on the experience level of the person making the coin ring. The quality of tooling also makes a big difference.
How are your coins so clean?
When you say clean, do you mean after it's been made into a ring? If so, I use "0000" steel wool mainly, followed by an antique patina solution. Hope that helps!
does it work with any nations coinage?
Yes it does!
Can you fat tire the swedish wrap after you are done ?
Yes you can, quite easily actually!
where did you bye the ring expander and press
The Ring Sizer Machine is a "Durston"; and it can be found at www.RioGrande.com; and you can pick up a 2-ton arbor press on Amazon. Hope that helps.
My ring always has a slight cone shape-what am I not doing-I'm a new maker
saludos la maquina como se llama como la consigo
Victor, no estoy seguro de qué pregunta usted está pidiendo?
Me refiero a la maquina que utiliza en el video para aser el anillo de una moneda gracias saludos
La máquina se llama una "máquina de tamaño de anillo"
where do I get the push rods you use?
Hi John, they will be available on my Shop Page in a week at: www.CoinRingUSA.com ... thanks!
Hey John, my new "Swedish Wrap" Die Set is now available at my Shop Page at: www.CoinRingUSA.com
Where can I buy the machine and dyes
Hey Shaun, they will be available at my Shop Page shortly at: www.CoinRingUSA.com ... feel free to check there often!
great video subscription
Thanks Andrew!
is this legal?
Completely, 100%. I actually wrote a great short article on the topic that can be found here:
coinringusablog.com/frequently-asked-questions/
I see that you are selling brass pushrods, but this video shows plastic. Why the change? Wouldn't the plastic ones have the advantage of not scoring the reeded side, ever?
I went with the brass push rods because they hold up much better under the pressures that are exerted when Swedish-Wrapping... the nylon just doesn't hold up; it deforms rather quickly. Hope that helps!