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  • @monkeyman012306
    @monkeyman012306 Месяц назад +65

    "Sidney Sweeny's boobs should not be a left and right issue when we still don't have proper infrastructure in Detroit" is a quote that goes insanely hard🤣

    • @playedout148
      @playedout148 Месяц назад +4

      Don't have proper infrastructure period. Detroit is the first American ruins. Why go to Greece?

    • @Bananahammock681
      @Bananahammock681 Месяц назад +5

      Honestly, that reads like a Sal burn. Did not expect such a genius gem to come from Benny. I love the guy, but it is much more a Sal thing you know? haha

    • @Ragnorok657
      @Ragnorok657 Месяц назад

      I agree I am straight down the middle about Sidney Sweeny's boobs.

    • @MWhaleK
      @MWhaleK Месяц назад

      It's a great line!

    • @marlinmurrell620
      @marlinmurrell620 Месяц назад

      Damn, thing is, I can confirm this lmao ​@playedout148

  • @jameskingman1227
    @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +28

    God Sal is right, we really are back in early 2000 comic movies right now. That really snuck up on me. The difference is we’ve been shown it can be done well and I. Not desperate to see anything on screen anymore.

  • @t20sgrunt36
    @t20sgrunt36 Месяц назад +6

    Silly decision to not use the classic surfer. The big question is why do this? Why use a one shot, limited panel character and not one of the most popular characters that fans have loved for 60 years? As crappy as FF movies have been, the Surfer’s appearance has been the most positive portion of it(as bad as they did it). People love and want the character. This movie flops and it leaves the surfer in a bad place, it does well and we didn’t get the surfer we wanted. Not excited to get the changes rammed down our throats. And not fair to the actress, given how crazy some people will get.

    • @tatsumidavis3257
      @tatsumidavis3257 10 дней назад

      It’s because his story is the most boring in the world. I’m sad and I float around in space naked. And anything he’s involved in you have to mention galactus no one thinks of him as stand alone

  • @playedout148
    @playedout148 Месяц назад +13

    "Weaponized Outrage Machine" Did Darkseid build that?

    • @johnthai6188
      @johnthai6188 Месяц назад

      most likely the red lanterns created that.

  • @Jscallen13
    @Jscallen13 Месяц назад +8

    Imagine going to watch a Batman movie and find out it’s Vicki Vale behind the Cowl.
    Okay.

  • @Ducaso
    @Ducaso Месяц назад +8

    Sal’s kinda right, the approach the MCU has been taking is as tone deaf as the early 2000s movie studios.

  • @pianist150
    @pianist150 Месяц назад +7

    To your point about movie stars, its like Anthony Mackie said in that interview; Anthony Mackie isn't a movie star, The Falcon is a movie star. You used to go see the new Stallone movie or the new Schwarzeneggar movie. Now you go see the new Batman or the new Spider-man or the new Marvel.

  • @panduh_go_crazy-.-9957
    @panduh_go_crazy-.-9957 Месяц назад +20

    Every company is chasing to diversify to increase profits but don’t have the passion to take care of these existing properties and often get the representation all wrong

  • @JusticeShines
    @JusticeShines Месяц назад +5

    I think it's odd the FF are in their own universe. Since Strange mentioned in MoM to Reed he thought they had gotten lost in the 60s. So a version of the family exists in the main universe

    • @famousthaneus9810
      @famousthaneus9810 Месяц назад +1

      It was a reference to a band. This particular point has been talked about before

    • @Jab-Cajun91
      @Jab-Cajun91 Месяц назад +1

      Their universe is getting clapped by Galactus and the TVA will recruit/save them to save the overall multiverse. Why hasn’t anyone thought of that? Deadpool & Wolverine clearly implies that!

  • @crcolber
    @crcolber Месяц назад +4

    Benny throwing shots at STRANGER COMICS!!!!!! lol

  • @CanopiedwithBowers
    @CanopiedwithBowers Месяц назад +5

    Perhaps this is similar to what Sal has discussed before, namely this notion of the MCU not believing in Doctor Strange, so they cast a name in Benedict Cumberbatch (same situation with Pascal and Reed). Maybe they just don't believe in Silver Surfer and the Fantastic Four generally, so this marketing tactic is a result? I don't know.

  • @PopculturedDSun
    @PopculturedDSun Месяц назад +2

    This is why I need Benny in more of these videos and guys keep up the banter it’s hilarious

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Месяц назад +7

    So...Silver Surfer in the first movie, huh? I mean, at least it's not Doom.
    My hope is that we're not getting rid of Norrin Radd just because his last name is "Radd". If we pull the thread at the surfer character's last name being "Rad" when he has no clothing, blasts nebulous energy that does nebulous things out of his body, and goes around space on a surfboard, the whole sweater falls apart.

    • @dabbadoo2226
      @dabbadoo2226 Месяц назад +2

      Why not just cast her as nova aka Frankie Raye and boom you have your female super hero no reason to mess with such an iconic marvel character multiverse or no multiverse next thing you know we’ll have a transgender Norrin Radd 🙄

    • @dabbadoo2226
      @dabbadoo2226 Месяц назад

      Well Disney ruined Star Wars why not marvel as well

  • @chowderman8888
    @chowderman8888 Месяц назад +3

    We don't even have a sinopsis of this movie! I hope that doesn't mean they're still writing it

  • @TheShockVox
    @TheShockVox Месяц назад +7

    I think what bugs me is the show of it. It feels…dishonest? I don’t know, inorganic. Here’s my go to example of when I feel a company does something as a move and not just due to genuine story telling. When CW was doing season 4 or 5 of Arrow, they had a comic con panel to announce things. One of the things they announced was Mister Terrific. The way they did this felt gross. I remember them saying, paraphrasing: “we know people want more LGBT characters in the show so we’re happy to announce in Arrow Mister Terrific will be gay *wait for applause*”. Now what bothered me wasn’t Terrific being gay…what bothered me was it felt very….The Boys. Like, how people in the show The Boys talk about marketing. You could feel the Paul marketing slime around the announcement. They wanted props points OR they wanted a reaction. It was blatant and exploitative. This sort of feels like that. Like it’s contrarian. Now it’s BETTER than what the CW did there, because they just made an OC do not steal Mister Terrific (made up a character but kept the hero name, as CW DC tends to do), at least Marvel is using canon character. But it still feels gross.
    Besides that, they haven’t DONE well with the swapping. Ghost, Taskmaster, Mar Vell. Why do it? It isn’t helping anyone. It isn’t helping the actresses. It isn’t helping the discourse.

    • @dominiqueodom3099
      @dominiqueodom3099 Месяц назад +3

      Reminds me of how Aqualad from Young Justice was turned into being Bisexual in season 3/4.
      I remember when he was legitimately the most Obscure hero in the series next to Miss Martian. A moment I'll never forget from that series is the moment when Robin,the most popular and Well known Young Hero and the official Leader of the Team in nearly every incarnation of this team in The comics,actually hands over the reigns of commanding the team to Aqualad.
      Then after nearly a decade of waiting for season 3 to premiere,the biggest news I've heard focused on his character is how he is Bisexual and has a boyfriend now. Even though in the beginning of the series it was shown he had a female love interest.
      And that's the only thing they focused on.

    • @thetoongrump9801
      @thetoongrump9801 Месяц назад

      You’re projecting. We literally don’t know how this is going to be executed! We have no idea whether this is inorganic or not.

    • @TheShockVox
      @TheShockVox Месяц назад +4

      @@thetoongrump9801you’re misusing projection. We’re not discussing the execution. We’re discussing how they announced these things, the motivation, and the repetitive nature of it.

    • @draykohunter6805
      @draykohunter6805 Месяц назад

      ​@@TheShockVox👏🏿

    • @goat-min1414
      @goat-min1414 Месяц назад

      @@dominiqueodom3099 This is just wrong. It was a big deal that he was now Aquaman and co-leader of the League, not just him being bisexual. They barely even mentioned he was bisexual until Season 4 when he had his personal arc. Even then, it was just showing him and his boyfriend on adventures with Dolphin. Plus, that version of Aqualad (Kaldur) was always gay. The show even changed it to make him bisexual to acknowledge that he did have a female love interest so at least they didn't ignore it completely.

  • @jakehornsby10
    @jakehornsby10 Месяц назад +2

    Was not expecting a Sketch reference from Sal but I’m so here for it 😂 made a great point too

    • @CodedCrusader
      @CodedCrusader Месяц назад +1

      Came here to comment this. Caught me off guard 😂

  • @Neromoore1
    @Neromoore1 Месяц назад +14

    I'm not against it being a female Silver Surfer but I was really looking forward to seeing Marvel's version of the Silver Surfer

    • @malakiparkman4907
      @malakiparkman4907 Месяц назад

      She is sliver surfers love interest there is not going to be a female sliver surfer

  • @kingsportcal
    @kingsportcal Месяц назад +1

    Looking good, Sal! Diggin tha headset vibe.

  • @antiproductiveman9368
    @antiproductiveman9368 Месяц назад +2

    It is hilarious how mad Hassan is getting throughout this video

  • @codystork3008
    @codystork3008 Месяц назад +4

    My thought was they want to avoid Noran being a guy who used to destroy worlds with sentient life, so she is the SS herald they defeat/depower and Noran gets the power Cosmic at the end or end credits with none of the baggage. But if that's the case than all you did was fridge a female character, and get rid of Noran's most interesting character trait.

    • @Bananahammock681
      @Bananahammock681 Месяц назад

      That would be terrible, it means they overcome nothing and just get gifted nigh Godhood. I'd hate that if it plays out that way. Its okay to have him be a twat, and redeem.

    • @draykohunter6805
      @draykohunter6805 Месяц назад

      😤🥲

  • @725TommyG
    @725TommyG Месяц назад +1

    Another great installment

  • @jameskingman1227
    @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +8

    The reality is they are playing politics again, but most want to see the pure Marvel universe represented. Now for me Silver Surfer is Norrin Radd. It’s like ignoring the watcher and throwing in the Orb with Watchers eyeball and just expecting everyone to go with it. I was really looking forward to an FF movie because they’ve never been done well, now I find out we are doing all the alternative stories which doesn’t interest me at all. I just want to see the classic Stan and Jack era on screen.

  • @DiamondBatToons
    @DiamondBatToons Месяц назад +1

    I'm not gonna lie, I cringe whenever people say a Marvel Studios movie "bombed." Just because a movie made less than Endgame doesn't make it a bad movie, especially if you compare it to other franchise movies instead. That's like saying I suck at swimming because I'm not at the level of Michael Phelps, even though I know a good amount on how to swim.

  • @johnny2003
    @johnny2003 Месяц назад +7

    They HAVE to market it as a different legitimate canon character.
    Not that it’s simply just gender swapping it.
    This is NOT a gender swap.

  • @BrandonPaul
    @BrandonPaul Месяц назад

    Great discussion. Agree on all points.

  • @GojiEm
    @GojiEm Месяц назад

    Didn't Mysterio say that the MCU was Earth-616 (aka the main Marvel Universe) in Spiderman 2? I would not be surprised if they just forgot that important bit of dialogue 😂

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK Месяц назад

    Marvel is pretty much the only ones to use the Marvel Formula of building up to a shared universe by giving various characters their own movies to build up to the big shared universe movie.

  • @Douchedays
    @Douchedays Месяц назад +2

    Imagine Ben Grimm doesn't look like that until he gets to 616.🤣

  • @therealmccoyruf
    @therealmccoyruf Месяц назад

    I try and think of a level of maturity can get to where I always wait and see , and never get negative before something comes out

  • @juanandrade9859
    @juanandrade9859 Месяц назад

    Wasn’t expecting a sketch call from Sal😂 hello brother

  • @JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
    @JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache Месяц назад +9

    My only problem with the Fantastic Four movie being set in another reality is why? If this wasn't set in the "Multiverse Saga" we all know they would of retcon the Fantastic Four into the MCU like they did with Captain Marvel, or just have the Fantastic Four be introduced in the present day. It feels really unnecessary.

    • @DUBS606
      @DUBS606 Месяц назад +3

      It almost feels like they are doing what they did with Spider-Man. We’ve had two origins of the fantastic four so they want to skip that story and go straight to having a fully formed family. The problem with that is. It’s ways to charactize one character quickly, but they are going to have to juggle four characters and show us their dynamics with each other. Honestly would have made more sense for them to have been set in the 60’s Reeds experiment goes wrong and they are drifting somewhere else and then suddenly show up.

    • @famousthaneus9810
      @famousthaneus9810 Месяц назад +1

      For the same reason they’re pulling the X-Men from a different universe: they didn’t want to do the work to figure out how to either explain or introduce their existence (from scratch) in their main universe.

  • @MCwaver
    @MCwaver Месяц назад +2

    Norrin Radd? More like torbin in Rey.

  • @eduardoperezrubio4965
    @eduardoperezrubio4965 Месяц назад

    I took it as “they went to a different dimension then came back.” Strange mentions them in multiverse of madness

  • @user-vv8hw5jk4z
    @user-vv8hw5jk4z Месяц назад +1

    Black Widow didn't come out until after Endgame you're talking about
    Captain Marvel

  • @johnny2003
    @johnny2003 Месяц назад

    Bill Murray Quantumed Catwoman’s Mania

  • @dabbadoo2226
    @dabbadoo2226 Месяц назад +2

    If stan lee was alive he would be furious what they are doing with his favorite character as well as my favorite which I grew up with not to mention one of the darkest origins with his parent committing suicide and leaving his love to save his world enough of the women power crap it obviously isn’t working it’s been bomb after bomb and this will be another sad to say

  • @lazynerd3211
    @lazynerd3211 Месяц назад

    I only watch one trailer of anything and leave it at that. of course being online I'll see somthingnlil extra so i scroll past it and don't even reflect. after I see the movie, then I go back and watch everything

  • @BigPoppa1830
    @BigPoppa1830 Месяц назад +3

    Good to see you guys finally waking up to what conservatives actually say instead of what you guys have been told to say

  • @jrapny
    @jrapny Месяц назад

    Silver surfer also has his own postal stamp

  • @baggin.
    @baggin. Месяц назад +3

    Holy fuck what is Zendaya’s last name lol

  • @jamiegarcia5507
    @jamiegarcia5507 Месяц назад

    I can't wait for this to become another Sally Acorn situation.

  • @lazynerd3211
    @lazynerd3211 Месяц назад +1

    Bottom line. these companies pandering to a group of people who don't care.

  • @oseven777
    @oseven777 Месяц назад +2

    Nobody cares about a female silver surfer. 😂

  • @Patrick-wl6pw
    @Patrick-wl6pw Месяц назад +1

    I agree benny i needs more information ff

    • @Patrick-wl6pw
      @Patrick-wl6pw Месяц назад

      James Gunn and Peter dcu I more excited

  • @Lawarot
    @Lawarot Месяц назад

    I just want her to be bald like Silver Surfer should be. I really hate when female versions of superheroes ruin a character design just because someone thinks women must have hair visible.

  • @userious258
    @userious258 Месяц назад

    Apparently this movie takes place in another dimension so this silver surfer is most likely just a multiversal version of the character

  • @JusticeShines
    @JusticeShines Месяц назад +1

    Completely agree with what is said in this video. I would love to hear the insight on a female's point of view for this topic. Especially given the comments mentioned about the female star wars actresses

  • @panduh_go_crazy-.-9957
    @panduh_go_crazy-.-9957 Месяц назад +1

    I seen that RDJ movie and it was okay kinda weird but okay

  • @der_benson4478
    @der_benson4478 Месяц назад +14

    oh wow, you guys finally caught on to the problem... (It was never "DIVERSITY=BAD" [for the majority of people], it was always "These movies [games, comics etc.] are bad and when we call them out for that, we get called everything-ism under the sun...)

    • @DrDinoNuggies
      @DrDinoNuggies Месяц назад +8

      Dude… having genuine criticism of these movies won’t get you called anything. Saying Black Widow was bad because Taskmaster was a woman might, but saying it was bad because Taskmaster was a nothingburger of a character and a waste of screen time won’t. It’s pretty simple.

    • @kadegetslaid634
      @kadegetslaid634 Месяц назад +2

      ​@DrDinoNuggies exactly!!! I don't care that taskmaster was woman, but the completely erased his personality and the reason he's so loved as a villian, shouldn't have been taskmaster

    • @thomasjohnson1885
      @thomasjohnson1885 Месяц назад

      “You finally caught on to the problem” No if people called you a name it’s most likely because you came across as that thing they called you. Be careful with your words instead of just spewing outrage without aim

    • @der_benson4478
      @der_benson4478 Месяц назад +2

      @@thomasjohnson1885 so you're the type of person who goes "did you see what she was wearing? she was clearly asking for it!" at the rape trial, got it. You're clearly the good guy.

  • @davidblank420
    @davidblank420 Месяц назад

    Man im disappointed we never got a Calvin and Hobbs cartoon. Spaceman Spiff is the dude.

  • @artisticAsian353
    @artisticAsian353 Месяц назад

    Silver surfer as a woman is a great choice especially since the era it's supposed to take place in is the 60's. Which would make good commentary on some not ok practice from back in the day.

  • @MCLegoboy
    @MCLegoboy Месяц назад

    I feel like I'm more caught up in the whole idea of the Fantastic Four just not being from the main MCU timeline. I get that it's the Multiversal Saga, but could they have not just been from the 60s, went out into space to fight a threat or fall into the Negative Zone, have some time dilation happen, and now they're 60 years forward in time? And sure, we have a time machine now that sends folks through the Quantum Realm, but maybe some other thing breaks it when the Fantastic Four feel like it's time to head back home. It doesn't need to be so complicated as having them come over from another universe because that's what actually causes incursions, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness said so! If that's what needs to happen in order for Secret Wars to kick off, I guess that works, but it didn't need to be like that.
    And then yeah, our evidence of this other universe is that Silver Surfer is a woman? There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it doesn't really feel like it's all that creative either, and why not use one of the other heralds of Galactus instead? What story purpose is it going to serve?

  • @Selnate
    @Selnate Месяц назад

    Frankie Raye is RIGHT THERE

  • @mrc-17
    @mrc-17 Месяц назад

    Well said by all three. I have the same opinions, even if I couldn't express it so clearly.

  • @fusionsigh
    @fusionsigh Месяц назад

    I enjoy watching RDJs Dolittle

  • @joaquinjfernandez1528
    @joaquinjfernandez1528 Месяц назад +6

    The actress is good too let them cook

  • @comicbooknerd9093
    @comicbooknerd9093 Месяц назад

    Sal better fact check, Oppenheimer made 950 million, bit close to 1 billion dollars

  • @DavidSilva-sx7vs
    @DavidSilva-sx7vs Месяц назад

    Norrin Radd is an Icon in the MARVEL Universe. The Galactus Trilogy is one of the greatest story arcs in the history of MARVEL Comics. Norrin Radd had a comic book run that lasted 11 years. Norrin played a major role in the Infinity Gauntlet comic event. He's had his own animated series, video game and toyline. He was the title character in 2007s Fantastic 4 sequel. Most Marvel Comic fans who have supported this universe when they purchase their books every Wednesday at their LCS aren't interested in this character swap. Shalla BaI is at best a supporting character in the Silver Surfer saga. I enjoy Sal's youtube channel, but I just want to see him do a video that honors the Legacy of The Silver Surfer and its creators Lee, Kirby, Buscema, Lim and Starlin.

  • @kota4l837
    @kota4l837 Месяц назад +1

    I agree that the change is unnecessary but i also feel like silver surfer isnt as much of a story invested character as spiderman like benny said, spidey is heavily reliant on his gender for the story, as to where silver surfers stories arent. I am really tired of them using a female character as a selling point but i think we should lowkey just try to stay open minded to the change in the spirit of a “New” MCU”.

    • @draykohunter6805
      @draykohunter6805 Месяц назад +1

      Like they said in the video, Nova was right there. Why not use her instead of changing your established recognizable character... Oh, wait😮‍💨

    • @kota4l837
      @kota4l837 Месяц назад

      @@draykohunter6805 she isnt as big a character and i dont think anybody going to see a Unknown FEMALE hero

  • @Usagi2380
    @Usagi2380 Месяц назад

    What would make me happy is for DC to make a Red X movie with Red X being black

  • @auradjinns
    @auradjinns Месяц назад

    So Doctor Doom and Reed aren’t even from the same universe???

  • @dec2567
    @dec2567 Месяц назад +11

    My problem with female silver surfer is actually nothing because I don't care about that character.😂😂

  • @DementedDistraction
    @DementedDistraction Месяц назад

    I mean...I've been out of the Silver Surfer/FF loop for a good long while now, and I didn't pay much attention to them in the first place, but I just figured that there's already a female Silver Surfer (or an equivalent thereof), and her name is Nova.
    It feels like Hollywood is changing things just to market the project as being different from the source material with the expressed purpose of garnering interest through that as a novelty, instead of having a substantive purpose behind the changes.
    It comes off as them thinking they A) Are embarrassed by the source material, or B) Think they know better than the source material, and all the while ignoring or being totally oblivious to the fact that these properties are popular because of the source material.

  • @Bananahammock681
    @Bananahammock681 Месяц назад +1

    This one isn't as bad as Taskmaster, that one was just an entirely different character they put a name on to to pop one or two of us geeks who know the name. It served no purpose or reason. A female silver surfer, in another universe entirely? that's fine. it happened, it is canonical.
    But as Benny said in his own vid a while back, Disney and Marvel have yet again thrown someone under the bus, announcing the wrong thing. People are not as big of a draw as they were in the 90's, adding someones name to something means shit, given we have an overabundance of talent out there.
    You turn on a TV, stream a show and chances are you will point at 5 people who can out-act any A-lister. People care about quality more now, and just announcing names is not giving them any reason to get excited. So they'll dogpile onto the few idiots who lash out.

  • @dominiqueodom3099
    @dominiqueodom3099 Месяц назад +1

    2:50 i agree,the media knows what its doing by trying to get controversy going.
    5:55 thank you,your right on the money with how badly the female Marvel Projects have been
    And the discussion on the Gender swapping of Taskmaster is EXACTLY WHY PEOPLE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT SILVER SURFER BEING SWAPPED.
    They not only lied and hid who Taskmaster was going to be,they removed anything and everything about the personality of that unique character and just made her into a Mute Cyborg when this dude is supposed to be one of the more Consistent and credible Villians in Marvel and a Survivor above all.
    Was Thanos/Loki/Red Skull gender swapped in their first on screen appearances in the MCU?
    Why is this criticism hard to understand?
    Look at how long people were waiting to see what the first Xmen project Marvel was going to greenlight once they got the license back from Fox and the reaction to Xmen97.
    The Fantastic Four are another cornerstone of the Marvel that hasnt been done justice on Screen ever and has absolutely Butchered its most Iconic Characters like Dr Doom/Silver Surfer/Galactus. Hell,they absolutely destroyed the SKRULLS in the MCU by removing all of their villanous Qualities and making them the whipping boys of the Kree Empire.
    Is it too much to ask that they just get it right FIRST before injecting Female Variants of Iconic Characters?

  • @ShinyMasterMatt
    @ShinyMasterMatt Месяц назад

    Well I think fans just need to be nicer and chill just wait till the movie comes out

  • @hjwilson11
    @hjwilson11 Месяц назад +2

    You all are making way too much out of this

  • @MrUniq
    @MrUniq 28 дней назад

    I haaaaaatttee the word woke...and I've barely heard many situations where the sentiment of that word even applies....but making Silver Surfer a female just because on a flimsy...reason. A gender swap changes the whole persona of the character and you're effectively writing a new character that nobody is familiar with. Maybe all the proper details aren't in place yet but this sounds....troubling. This feels like the same decisions that made people fall out with Phase 4.
    And that not even the most alarming thing. They couldn’t figure out how to introduce them so they are leaning into the multiverse yet again.

  • @davidblank420
    @davidblank420 Месяц назад

    Were gonna get another Surfer in the MCU so theres your Noran. Hope they bring Doug Jones aka MacTonight. Im not even joking.

  • @TheRagingBean
    @TheRagingBean Месяц назад +1

    Ill be real. The F4 being in its own reality and all coming to the mcu is an idea i really dont like

  • @martinbabich1920
    @martinbabich1920 Месяц назад

    I think Marvel cancelling Ant-man might not be the right choice. They should just try doing a better job with the character instead. I'm sorry, I know this doesn't have anything to do with the Fantastic four but I wanted to say it anyway

  • @thomasjohnson1885
    @thomasjohnson1885 Месяц назад

    My problem is the fantastic four isnt Spider-Man. They maybe had his level of popularity still back in the 2000s but now people know the groups inspired by the FF more than they do the FF, you can’t start switching and changing basic tenants of the story because people don’t know the original context as well as they do Peter Parker.
    Make Zendaya MJ sure why not, add Ned but he’s Ganke but changing silver surfer? People know what silver surfer looks like but they don’t know who Norrin Radd is.

  • @MrMario-tc8sl
    @MrMario-tc8sl Месяц назад +18

    There are people complaining that we are going to have a ridiculously fit woman in a skin tight silver outfit. That sounds pretty suss to me.

    • @Bananahammock681
      @Bananahammock681 Месяц назад +2

      Because you're not allowed to ogle people any more and say "hey, I find that attractive" You'll get cancelled or whatever that means? Oh no, anonymous faceless people are gonna dislike me.

    • @creed8712
      @creed8712 Месяц назад +3

      It’s funny you think anyone in this film will be a person in a suit

    • @thomasjohnson1885
      @thomasjohnson1885 Месяц назад

      @@Bananahammock681I love made up outrage to get upset about. Have you been on the internet?

    • @chriscolombie4135
      @chriscolombie4135 Месяц назад +1

      Fit woman are you serious ?like echo ?fit like that? You forget it’s marvel we are talking abt it did be a welcome surprise if the character is fit

    • @MrMario-tc8sl
      @MrMario-tc8sl Месяц назад +1

      @@chriscolombie4135 you would probably prefer Ken doll smooth, shredded bald man fit eh? Big time suss.

  • @ericblakemore3381
    @ericblakemore3381 Месяц назад +5

    Anyone remember Uma Thurman was the ancient one. I remember people hated that too but then people just forget about it

    • @AbsolutelyMarvelDC
      @AbsolutelyMarvelDC  Месяц назад +7

      Tilda Swinton.

    • @jameskingman1227
      @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +1

      When was Uma Thurman the Ancient one?

    • @betterlatethannever4529
      @betterlatethannever4529 Месяц назад

      To be fair…they just didn’t want to be called racist for having an Asian play the ancient one. But I’m down with Tilda Swinton’s run as the character. She’s such a fun actress

    • @TheShockVox
      @TheShockVox Месяц назад +1

      Think Silver Surfer has more fans than the ancient one. Besides that was arguably the “opposite side” of the anger of this situation that was mad, if we want to boil it down

    • @fartballs7607
      @fartballs7607 Месяц назад +3

      @@betterlatethannever4529 thats not the reason. The ancient one was supposed to be a Tibetan monk. Problem is, China doesn’t recognize Tibet as an independent sovereign so they would have protested that character and banned the movie in China. Disney wants China’s money so they cast a white lady instead. That’s the type of integrity Disney has. Similar to when they put Chadwick Boseman in a mask on the Chinese theatrical poster of Black Panther and not anywhere else, because they are racist towards black people and Disney is willing to overlook that for money.

  • @ethankillion786
    @ethankillion786 Месяц назад

    The Silver Surfer girlfriend/wife I want on screen is Dawn Greenwood...

  • @joefayant8470
    @joefayant8470 Месяц назад

    Marvel didnt annocue it. It got scooped by deadline and THR.

  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 Месяц назад

    Zendaya Coleman

  • @matthewconlon2388
    @matthewconlon2388 Месяц назад

    Stunt casting.

  • @jameskingman1227
    @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад

    Uncharted is fine, but I got distracted and didn’t finish it, then never bother to finish the movie, it felt like it was made in 2007.

  • @mheiseus
    @mheiseus Месяц назад +2

    😂😂😂😂 look at these guys, trying to make people accept this non sense, either make a good film or I'm not gonna pay for it.

    • @AbsolutelyMarvelDC
      @AbsolutelyMarvelDC  Месяц назад +2

      lol k tiger

    • @mheiseus
      @mheiseus Месяц назад +2

      @@AbsolutelyMarvelDC I'm not gonna see it, because they keep intellectually insulting the fans. If they want people to be represented, build a character on its own merit and stop hijacking the legends because you have no creative direction. I'll see a "gay/black/female/____ insert the gender identity here" as long as it's written with some intelligence and integrity.

  • @KamiAnimeS1
    @KamiAnimeS1 Месяц назад

    If it’s in the comics, I really don’t care. It’s nothing burger for me.

  • @alfonzoc_Father_Misfit_Batman
    @alfonzoc_Father_Misfit_Batman Месяц назад

    👍

  • @user-vv8hw5jk4z
    @user-vv8hw5jk4z Месяц назад +1

    Ironman jr joke it's 2024 that does not apply at all L take

  • @omoefeasiemo3601
    @omoefeasiemo3601 Месяц назад +1

    please shut up about iron boy jr

  • @moonlit_bc2685
    @moonlit_bc2685 Месяц назад

    its the same for gaming show gameplay i don't care about your cinematics

  • @jonsmith9838
    @jonsmith9838 Месяц назад

    how many times has marvel gender swap though. can only think of this and task master

  • @albertadache2572
    @albertadache2572 Месяц назад +7

    Could it be possible that the Fantastic Four that we're getting is from another earth, and that's why Silver Surfer is female? 🤔 Food for Thought

    • @franzjosh1208
      @franzjosh1208 Месяц назад +4

      Isn’t that what they just said?

    • @albertadache2572
      @albertadache2572 Месяц назад +2

      @franzjosh1208 It is. I'm just doubling down on what they said, and the thing I'm also wondering is if the reason they pivoted to make it where the Fantastic Four from a different earth instead of the main MCU is because something happens in the movie where it doesn't line up with the main 616 time-line otherwise they would have a Wonder Woman 84 type situation.

    • @ReapZer027
      @ReapZer027 Месяц назад +1

      @@albertadache2572that’s the only legitimate reason. They have their own building. There’s no way they can say they were always around when the things they do are so noticeable.

    • @albertadache2572
      @albertadache2572 Месяц назад

      @@ReapZer027 I agree

    • @RunicRazili
      @RunicRazili Месяц назад

      @@ReapZer027from what I’ve heard, the FF are explorers and scientists first, heroes second.
      If this were true, then one easy way to explain their absence for so long is simply because they’ve chosen to either leave to explore the unknown, or an accident went wrong forcing them to be stranded in the unknown.
      Whether it be space, or time, or realities, the simplest solution to this problem is just to use the exact same excuse Captain Marvel used, and it’s not like it’s illogical as they truthfully have very little reason to stay on earth seeing as it’s not being plagued by world ending threats every now and again around the time they would be active.

  • @jameskingman1227
    @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +2

    I wonder in these instances whether it’s better to keep the casting a secret and just let the movie speak for itself, that way people aren’t influenced by internet outrage.

    • @betterlatethannever4529
      @betterlatethannever4529 Месяц назад +2

      Even though it’s not a 1/1 comparison, Sonic is a reason you let fans see what the character is going to be before the project launches.

    • @jameskingman1227
      @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +1

      @@betterlatethannever4529 how so? I really enjoyed the first Sonic movie, but I think that’s because I love Jim Carey.

    • @betterlatethannever4529
      @betterlatethannever4529 Месяц назад

      @@jameskingman1227 oh, he absolutely carries the films.

    • @jameskingman1227
      @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +2

      @@betterlatethannever4529 yep, but as a Sonic fan I don’t think it’s good, as a Jim Carey fan I can’t get enough.

    • @ReapZer027
      @ReapZer027 Месяц назад +2

      @@jameskingman1227because of how he looked originally. They shamed the company to do the true to form design.

  • @franzjosh1208
    @franzjosh1208 Месяц назад +2

    Please cover the X-men episodes. Would love to hear what you 3 think of them 🙏🏽

  • @waynetamz3745
    @waynetamz3745 Месяц назад +1

    I was saying th exact same thing when She Hulk premiered 😂 but I was sexist😂😂😂.
    Look at Daisy Ridley for example, her career hasn't really taken off after the star wars problem, its the same thing with Tatiana Maslany and Brie Larson as well, career wise, they haven't really taken off as well and if they keep doing this, and continue to write these Female characters poorly, this time in the industry will remembered as the most poorly creative era in Hollywood.
    BTW I still don't really like gender and raceswaps, mostly because it never goes both ways.
    I mean can Mr Terrific be white?😅

  • @UnknownEX0
    @UnknownEX0 Месяц назад

    When has a sex swap ever been good?

    • @famousthaneus9810
      @famousthaneus9810 Месяц назад +1

      Ancient One wasn’t bad at all🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @UnknownEX0
      @UnknownEX0 Месяц назад

      @@famousthaneus9810 but it wasn’t good

  • @devint1000
    @devint1000 Месяц назад

    I really don't think the general public knows the name Noran Rad. Also if it's Shyla Ball then it's not even a gender swapping this seems totally fine. It could still easily be poorly written but I think this is meh news, task master is a great example no one cares about that character really either so it could have been fine. But IT SUCKED

  • @smashbro67
    @smashbro67 Месяц назад +1

    Oppenheimer didn’t make a billion dollars, but it still made over $900 million, and was the third highest grossing film of last year. And while he wasn’t playing the main character, Robert Downey Jr. was still one of the leading actors in the film, which he gain tons of praise for, and even won an Academy Award.

  • @omoefeasiemo3601
    @omoefeasiemo3601 Месяц назад

    uncarted didn't flop

  • @fluoriteheals
    @fluoriteheals Месяц назад +3

    Does EVERYTHING have to be ALL INCLUSIVE!? SMH. Silver Surfer is a dude!

  • @mikesetzer9379
    @mikesetzer9379 Месяц назад

    She should have been Nova the flame chick who’s also Galactis harold! That would have been perfect casting. how about no more gender swapping and no more race swapping and just stick to the marvel continuity from the comic books it seems like a safe bet that no one would complain with and that everyone wants to see. it’s not difficult. There’s almost 100 years of storytelling. We now find ourselves with a new lame avengers, rip off team of basically little girl versions of what we had. Nobody wants to see that marvel will pay the price for that now.

  • @Lawarot
    @Lawarot Месяц назад

    I'm glad you guys aren't going full "MARVEL IS WOKE WOMEN BAD", but I think you're projecting a lot of Marvel's overarching problems onto this innocuous casting decision.

  • @felixg.4908
    @felixg.4908 Месяц назад

    dont fucking care. og silver surfer was already in a movie and it didn't make it better. at least they went for talent. i mean a 3 time emmy award winnig actress, come on!

  • @DrDinoNuggies
    @DrDinoNuggies Месяц назад +47

    The reaction from the weirdos was so predictable. Genuine Norrin Radd fans I feel bad for, but the two of them will eventually get over it. (Not to mention, he’s probably gonna show up anyway)

    • @johnny2003
      @johnny2003 Месяц назад +28

      It’s too easy for people to group legitimate criticism with bad faith arguments. It’s dangerous to make generalizations about dislike of the announcement. Or generalizations about anything really.

    • @jameskingman1227
      @jameskingman1227 Месяц назад +4

      @@johnny2003 correct

    • @wlsntech
      @wlsntech Месяц назад +6

      Yeah, I’m tired of it. People overreact all the time now. But 1) then everyone is lumped in with them no matter what legitimate criticism there is or 2) no one addresses why people might have a reaction in the first place.
      It’s cool that they are using a different character, but it wasn’t a surprise that they would. as long as the main fantastic four fam and they dynamic and their dynamic remains that’s all I care about

    • @gig7932
      @gig7932 Месяц назад +9

      The reason I'm mad is because the version that they chose had her run of silver surfer in the comics for ONE issue. That was it.

    • @gig7932
      @gig7932 Месяц назад +1

      The reason I'm mad is because the version that they chose had her run of silver surfer in the comics for ONE issue. That was it.

  • @alexgaray1216
    @alexgaray1216 Месяц назад +7

    Oh no! A woman in a movie. How diabolical!

    • @HassanKhadair
      @HassanKhadair Месяц назад +9

      The video just dropped how about you watch the video before commenting lol

    • @alexgaray1216
      @alexgaray1216 Месяц назад +5

      @@HassanKhadairdawg I was being sarcastic lmfao

    • @HassanKhadair
      @HassanKhadair Месяц назад

      @@alexgaray1216my b lol