Robert Downey Jr Returning As Iron Man? | Absolutely Marvel & DC
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2024
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T'Challa walked out in the end of Endgame I was so excited for a Black Panther led MCU. Rip Chadwick
Am I the only one who got a twitch when Benny said I've got a pitch and the words you expected him to say was a portal opens!😂
My idea, we get ai Tony, he wonders if he's actually him. Vision meets him and notices he has old code in his AI. The old code is Ultron
I want AI Tony in a Synth body contemplating his existence.
Although that's practically vision. And Mass Effect 3's Legion. "Does this unit... have a soul?"
@@Paradox-es3blthere’s a band called “U.L.T.R.A. S. that plays a song based on that question - “Does This Unit Have a Soul?”
This would feel like the laziest cheapest thing the mcu could do at this point.
I kind of agree... and yet I think I'd love it lol.
I know reviving is a comic book thing but I don’t think general audiences will latch onto a revival of a character like that. I could be wrong, but comic book readers are used to those “resets.”
Also, a wholesale bringing him back would open up the Pandora’s box for every character who died to come back at any point. Tony’s one of the deaths right now that actually happened and remained untouched.
MCU fans are used to the dead coming back. Bucky, Gamora, Loki, Vision and Wanda just to name a few
What frustrates me is they have new leaders. Falcon/Cap should’ve been the new head of the avengers. But they just haven’t used him. Why why why has there not been a post credits scene of him approaching Shang chi, or ms marvel, or even spidey???
They don't even have to bring him back to life. In armor wars. You could have a bunch of flashbacks with roadie and other characters spending time with Tony. Then they could do the AI thing everyone is pitching.
- Someone saw that the ultimate universe is doing well and has decided to do something similar in their own way XD
- There is nothing wrong with RDJ returning as an important cameo, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did (he already has his Oscar), at least in movies the the multiverse is used to bring back previous and nostalgic versions of certain characters. Besides, it's not like he's coming back to stay, he's already in another stage of his career. BUT if they don't bring him back, it wouldn't be a bad thing either.
I thought Iron Man was put in a coma during Civil War 2 and his body was put in stasis and reconstructed until he woke up.
Here's an idea that might just work.
Make RDJ play Iron Man 2099
Or... Just leave the man dead?
they have no other way to make hits
If only.
They don't have that luxury.
Death not permanent in comics
Iron Man could undergo a Reign of Supermen route - AI suit, AI LMD, Ironheart with AI, a biological clone (with some wires crossed?) and finally a variant selected by Loki, God of stories. All except the last one could be played by RDJ, and the variant could be a different younger actor.
Let the dead rest
The running storylines we get for individual characters like hulk they claim they will have a whole movie within 3 or 4 other movies and then they just don’t do that they don’t even get close and then they say wanna see me do it again 😂😂
What not just say the Tony that died was a Skrull?
Thatd be suck bs, completely ruin his ending
Because then we'd have to acknowledge skrulls and no one wants that.
It takes the meaning out of his whole arc. Then at that point anyone who dies could be a Skrull and then nobody cares anymore.
They should do the Iron Man arc where there's an AI copy of him and he gets a new body.
If they did bring back the actual Iron Man (instead of a variant) do y’all think he would remember Peter or not? Like does universal magic work on the dead?
Love your discussion even though casting decision are superfluous at end of the day.
One thing I can't stand from this whole "X is interested in coming back" thing is that it forces people into forgetting that recasts are a thing!! If you want to see a character come back, but the original actor isn't showing interest, THEN HOLD AUDITIONS AND RECAST THE FUCKING CHARACTER!!!
Give me an evil iron man
Superior iron man that’s all I’m saying
You do a movie what time am I coming back as the AI blue Tony.
Somewhat going gull circle with the Ultron concept.
Just leave him dead. Resurrection is OK for comics, but movies are a different animal
I'd much prefer AI or variant Tony. Leave our Tony dead. For 2 basic reasons: 1) it's the perfect end to his character. 2) they already did that story with Ant-Man. Idc if they could do it well this time, it's been done. Move on.
Bringing him back would be about as bad as bringing back Paul Walker's Brian after Fast 7, except Paul is dead and RDJ isn't so obviously a bit worse. But still, that movie was the perfect send off for that character, just like Endgame and our Tony. They already brought in the multiverse and super advanced AI like Ultron, Jarvis, and Vision... there's ZERO reason to bring back our Tony, imo. If they don't do it well, it'll suck, and even if they do it perfectly, it might not be the better way to have done things. There's basically zero risk to AI or variant Tony, and they can still do interesting stories.
Does AI Tony have a soul? Does he still love his daughter 3,000? What if variant Tony is gay? That could be interesting. Does he still basically adopt our Tony's daughter? All kinds of ways to do interesting things with either of them, even without involving Pepper and his daughter. Peter. The other Avengers that are alive like Doctor Strange and Thor. Rhodey. Everyone could think he's a Skrull but he's just a variant. All benefit, zero risk. It's just the smarter choice than bringing back our Tony, imo. It also lets RDJ do something at least a little different, in case he'd actually like to ACT at all? I've heard of many actors liking to be challenged at least a bit. Better than a stale role.
AI Tony is the only way to go. OG Tony's story is done. Bringing him back I think ruins that. Why do we want him back? Because RDJ is amazing and hilarious. So AI Tony can do EVERYTHING OG can except literally be him. So it's not invalidating the sacrifice.
I think bring back would be a horrible idea because it would be saying "Oh you loved the journey through phase 3? PSYCH! HAHA WE DONT CARE WE GOT YOU BACK" Act like this is a soft reboot. Act like you dont have a preexisting audience and you need to earn them, because if you brought him back it INSTANTLY diminsihes endgame. Also if its the same quality phase 4 had. They will hate the mcu even more. Bring him back in a way thatd have people going HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Because it is a massive part of movie history.
You know what, I’ll hate the idea until it happens, then be happy he’s back, cause I’m fickle af😂
At this point the MCU needs to start over, they wasted two whole phases I honestly thought were just a single one. Outside of 2-3 GOOD releases and a lot of mid stuff, nobody has any clue what we are working towards. Phase 1, come together. Phase 2&3 Thanos. Phase 4 dick around? phase 5 pretend like we're still in phase 4? phase 6 is.... ?
Cloney Stark
And for the guardians cross over you do star lord as s team up as well now that he's on earth an becomes a avenger himself
I only really feel okay with Robert Downey Jr. returning as Iron Man from another universe as part of the whole Secret Wars thing but resurrecting him doesn't feel right. And yet, it's not the same as if you tried to bring Black Widow back because of how the Soul Stone works in the MCU. Unfortunately we've seen the MCU fall to a certain point that we're even considering this, but holograms and an AI aren't bad because it fits his character, and we did have the recording in Endgame that seemed to kind of know where everything was in the room. I don't know, everything's still being worked out because of fallout from just about everything from the pandemic to dead actors to shifts in management to strikes and everything inbetween, and I still have faith they can craft a story that works, but just as an impulse reaction, I just don't like the idea of RDJ coming back as Iron Man for an extended period of time.
No death has to mean something in the mcu that’s my problem with the main 616 comics because nothing really matters in that universe I don’t want the muc to become that
Hassan turning into Dylan and bout to stop watching trailers and everything
Such a horrible idea. Glad comic book fans arent the ones making these movies
Do not. I repeat, DO NOT do the “I missed 6 years of my daughter’s life” storyline. Wasn’t that the subplot or filler dialogue to quantumania? Fuck that idea Benny lol
"Well, guys. I've got my Oscar now. How about we resurrect Tony?!"
No. Stuff like this is why comics are so stupid and messy. They twist the stories into pretzels in order to have characters come back every time they die just so that they can be around even if they don’t have anything to do because no one has an actual idea for said character but the character sells so they just have to be around. It has caused comics to loose any impact or effect big stories and developments might have. And we don’t need to see that in the movies.
One of the few advantages movies have over comics is that the stories can have a beginning, a middle and an actual end. And that’s partially because the actors age and can’t keep playing the roles forever (well, unless they heavily utilize anti-aging, digital doubles and stunt people). This gives the movies a chance to actually have a real story that moves forward and allows characters to grow and change (and die), which is one of the biggest complaints against ongoing superhero comics, that they don’t have any of that.
Besides, people don’t really want RDJ’s Iron Man to come back. They only think they do because people are dumb. People love Terminator and Terminator 2 and say they want more but then we get movies like Terminator 3. There is a reason why there is a growing backlash against Hollywood’s obsession of rebooting, remaking and continuing every single franchise in history with an underwhelming cash-grab sequel. Not every franchise and movie needs to be brought back or continued. You can only go back to the same well for so many times until the law of diminishing returns starts to kick in. Sometimes it’s best to just stop and go out on top. And for RDJ’s Iron Man his fate in Endgame was going out on top and bringing him back would only lessen that story and its conclusion.
Not to mention that it wouldn’t even solve MCU’s problems because just bringing RDJ’s Iron Man back doesn’t mean anything if the writing is anywhere from bad to mediocre or if there isn’t an organic and logical story for him in place. If they bring him back as a desperate measure just to boost box office instead of focusing on trying to improve on their other shortcomings, then it will inevitably suck and in retrospect lessen the already amazing stories they have told, much like Palpatine’s unexplained return in RoS retroactively made original trilogy loose a lot of its impact.
Iron man Friday run discombobulate protocol
Give us ethan bennett clayface
He was wearing the infinity gauntlet. The story could go anywhere because of that. Start it like lord of the rings 2, where it follows Gandalf adventure.
Start a movie from Tony's point of view as he dusts the bad guys. Then as he is dying he delves more into the power of the gauntlet particularly the time and the omniscient part of the gauntlet where he knows everything. Have him see a future where he and his family die unless he interferes now using the gauntlet.
So you see Tony appearing to people setting the puzzle pieces into place to reform another team. Leading to the new characters and old characters being able to return.
Really he was a genius wearing the infinity gauntlet. Do you really think he just laid there and died after only doing that one thing? The gauntlet can do anything... Anything the wearer can conceive and it was on Tony Stark. He could have turned his last 3 seconds into 3 millennia
Uh, yes, he really did die doing nothing else. He couldn't survive the gauntlet, remember? If he tried to use it for even 1 other thing, he simply would've died faster. Also, he wasn't even using the gauntlet. He stole the Stones and was using his nanosuit. 😒 But regardless, there was nothing else he could do.
Look, I'm sure I'd love RDJ back... but it shouldn't be as our Tony. AI or variant.
@@Paradox-es3bl It is still the infinity gauntlet. Anything is possible. With a thought he could have became an astral form or repaired his body.
I was not suggesting bringing him back permanently. But within the seconds before death he moves throughout time and space to create a future his daughter can be safe in. But have the cosmic entity Eternity on his heels because Tony is basically replacing him as Thanos did in the comics. Chaos ensues. Tony and Eternity is stopped by the living tribunal and his changes are allowed to exist if he gives up the power of the gauntlet. With his arc ending again on the battlefield.
Will this take away from the impact of his death in End Game? A bit if done incorrectly. But it has potential to give legitimacy to a new team of avengers. to bring focus on a new set of heroes or send others off into obscurity.
Please don't bring 616 Iron Man back. Totally ruins his story and ruins stakes in the MCU.